Anonymous reloadable prepaid plastic VISA ATM cards with own IBAN

[mateo]

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[Shaltuum]

How long does it take to deliver these cards?

[vvic]

is it possible to use them in USA?   I know they are visa and all, but
everyone knows how depressing USA is these days...  Will it have some card holder's name printed on it? So, if I go to ATM machine it would probably work, but if I go to some grocery store or wal mart?  Would I be able to use these cards these? Also some sites that selling stuff online demand billing address and they check it real time... How would that work? Thanks

[Shaltuum]

Ok, I'll take one card. More later if everything is ok.
Where to send BTC?

[horsebox1]

any feedback on these cards?

[Shaltuum]

I bought one card from him. It was that black one. The card arrived after 2 days. I registered the card, it requires Polish info to register, but he was very helpful and sent me pictures how to register. I sent some money to the card's account and just withdrawn that from on an atm and it worked. Gonna try it with Paypal now.

[El Extranjero]

I'm interested in one of these but I'd need the card to have  feedback from a trusted member of this community.

[Shaltuum]

Yesterday I verified my PayPal account with that PLN Visa card. All fine. I loaded my PayPal by Bitcoin through Virwox exchange and tried to do a withdrawal to my card, all seems fine as well, my PP account didn't get limited, withdrawal hasn't arrived to the card's IBAN yet, but that's normal since PayPal always holds funds for some time for new accounts.
These cards are working like he said they would, great work. Definitely gonna buy some more in the near future.

[Voodah]

I want one and need worldwide shipping.

Can you PM with details on how to proceed?

[murken]

I've just ordered a euro visa. Let's see how this goes.

[ingrownpocket]

Ordered one VISA EUR card and it arrived fast and safe  

http://imgur.com/Mq3Pll9,bphZg2T

[murken]

I've just ordered a euro visa. Let's see how this goes.

I've received my card. Thank you, mateo!

[omegaflare]

I would like to get one - US version. I can use this card any ATM branch in the US, correct? Let me know. It cost 27.00?

[prd7]

I'm interested in 4 cards. I'm trying to contact you but you don't answer...

[BTCVanc]

Wondering if you have USD cards available? looking for 10

[xpoint]

i'm definitely interested in these cards, @ sent, waiting on reply

[GumpaStumpa]

Big thanks to mateo!

Awesome trader and patient person! Will buy again.


Recommendation from me.

[Maxpayne86]

Bitstamp now requires to validate your identity in order to make bank transfers.

Can I still use these cards by putting my real name? Or is it too dangerous?

I wanted to use these cards in order to don't pay taxes but I'm not sure that even if the cards are anonymous, when I put my real name on Bitstamp they will work for my porpuse.

Thank you! (and sorry for my bad english)

[joinmicah]

I would like to pay using Paypal or Payza would you be able to accommodate my request?

[xpoint]

good seller, i vouch for him

[lupusWolf]

Late review...card arrived in closed envelope with pin number in additional sealed envelope. That pin number is changed once you register your card, so seller cannot possibly know it.

Card arrived swiftly with tracking info provided along the way. I went with a hunch and paid mateo without using escrow - everything went smoothly.

Highly recommended!

[Eternity]

How do you reload funds to these cards ?

[bobterneuzen]

I would like to buy a EUR card. I PMd you.

[neocon]

Are these in Stock?
How to check balance?
Are there any online access?

[lupusWolf]

Just received another two cards, excellent seller!

You check balance via online banking site.

Are these in Stock?
How to check balance?
Are there any online access?

[zeetubes]

I ordered some EUR cards and all went well. Mateo is great to deal with!

[mescalito]

Can the USD card be loaded by card to card transfer? If so, is there any fee?

[iPhoneK1LLA]

Ordered 5 GBP cards to the UK. Shipped within 24 hours. Will post results.

[marex]

Please tell us once the EUR cards are again back in stock on CoinGig.com.

[malaimult]

how do you fund this cards and what is your high balance on them? i want 50.000 a year or so.

[hawas]

Just received a USD card from mateo. It was a test transaction and it went great, he will soon have a new order with much more cards.

[albon]

VISA ELECTRON GBP prepaid card

Can you send USD to the GBP card and have it changed to GBP?

Or would it be easyer to get a USD card and withdraw in GBP?

Thanks

[mudge]

VISA ELECTRON GBP prepaid card

Can you send USD to the GBP card and have it changed to GBP?

Or would it be easyer to get a USD card and withdraw in GBP?

Thanks

To the first question: yes. USD will automatically be converted to GBP and there will be a conversion fee of 2.8%.
The same goes for ATM withdrawals. So, you will incur a conversion fee both ways, just from a different side.

I had the same question thanks for the answer.

Would it be cheaper to get a USD and withdraw in UKP?

[sshcl]

Cards received next day. Great seller! Quick transaction. Very professional!

[DutchyGn]

How long does it take for an IBAN transaction to arrive in the account (Netherlands > Poland)?
And does anyone have example (pictures?) on how to register at the Polish banksite?

[gujo82]

Hi!

Id like to order a EUR based card, but on coingig it states "not available", and the forum thread states "available". Please PM/reply how to proceed

[gujo82]

are there any cards without limit around 2500eur/gbp per year? just noticed that, might as well order 10x cards up front 

[Coinfan]

I can vouch for this member: very professional and trustworthy.

[daybyter]

Mateo: could the lifetime of the card (and the associated bank account)  extended by paying another 30$ at the date of expiration?

[ahmadsoe]

Do you accept PayPal? I'd like to buy one USD card.

[oprahwindfury]

So I link this card to my Paypal account and send funds from my Paypal to the card account itself. How long does it take to take the money from the card account through an ATM? 1 week? 1 month?

This is with a USD card by the way, thanks.

[ohmis]

Can anyone explain how we use these cards while withdrawing from btc-e ?

how do you fill these lines?

Benificiary Name:
Account Number/IBAN: (This is coming with Card i think)
SWIFT/ABA:
Benificiary Address:
Name Of Bank:
Bank address:

[Dru2010]

I have the money sitting here waiting to pay you.. need anything from 1 card to 10 cards. .
Soon as you reply ill pay.
Thank you

[mushbert]

Some US websites will only accept US credit card numbers - a Canadian or British VISA number will be refused even though the company accepts VISA, and even if I am in the US. Will these cards work in such a situation?

[unknownfame]

Is it possible to send a bank transfer from the IBAN axcount to another ordinary account?
And is it possible to Attach those cards to US Paypal accounts?

[sierraoscardelta]

Please pm with details thanks Mateo.

[tyler26]

When will you more in stock? Please let me know, I need this asap.

[Hadval]

Is it possible to preorder/reserve? (even if I only need a single one)

[omio]

Is it possible to load this card with Bitstamp?

[black_swan]

Just a very simple question, is this legal?
Which name has been used to register this card?
So which name do you use when buying online?

[mushbert]

If a website only accepts US credit cards, then you need a credit card issued in US and there's NO way around it.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. 

[vual]

any cards with larger yearly limits? seems they are designed to be thrown away after 2k is used?

[vual]

Just a very simple question, is this legal?
Which name has been used to register this card?
So which name do you use when buying online?

Obviously not your name....

[kolibes56]

Hi, Mateo,
I pm-ed you earlier today - have you read my PM ?

[oprahwindfury]

Sorry I had a couple of more questions before making a purchase. I am a seller on Localbitcoins located in the U.S. Which payment method would I chose in order for the buyer to load their funds into my account? I see a couple of methods on Localbitcoins that may be possible;

1. International bank wire, any specific information I would need?

2. Western Union money to the account somehow?

3. Deposit cash into the account somehow?

4. Load Moneypak cards onto the account?

5. Bank transfer, but this account is Polish and most of my buyers will be from the US. How does this work?

[Adolf Hipster]

I'm very interested in a € Debit.
Pls PM me

[ny2cafuse]

Received my cards earlier this week.  Shipping time was just as expected coming from EU to west coast USA, during a polar vortex.  So very happy with the service and communication Mateo provided.  Highly recommended.  I have updated his trust rating as well for the purchase.

I will definitely be doing business with him again in the future.

-Fuse

[tautvilis]

Doesn't paypal need name and last name for linking card?

P.S. Brolis lietuvis kaip matau

[escalope]

hello,

Can you provide JPN card or only € or $?

[ElDido]

Ordered the 11th, receive the card the 15th.

Great seller!

Thanks again.

[kikee1]

He sent it out 13th, arrived today. Great guy, keep going.

[ti3go]

Hello Mateo, can you PM me information for a EUR card please ?

Thx

[Erwan960]

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[Kallek]

I'm interested in a EUR card. Could you send PM for me too please.

[roohy]

please PM me, I want a EUR or GBP card

[Bitcoiner12]

I'm interested in 5 a EUR cards. Could you send PM for me too please.

[Chana]

Im already send you a PM,

I'm interested in a EUR card

[Takounie]

Hi, could you send me a PM please, id like to buy 3 EUR please

[smeagol]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

[empoweoqwj]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

Yes, I can unseal the card's envelope and send you the data. Then the card effectively becomes a VCC for you, and like with all VCCs, you have to trust the seller.

Do these cards work for online purchases? I know you say paypal, but other sites that accept credit / debit cards? Don't most sites require a name / address together with the cc info? Sorry for the dumbass questions....

[Hadval]

Any downside to not doing the registration besides only being able to check transactions/balance through SMS and not being able to change PIN?

The place where I plan to use this card forces me to enter a billing address located in another country. My fear is: when I register the card at the bank with a Polish address, the transaction may not be accepted if at the place where I plan to use it I enter a billing address in a different country. While if I don't register the card at all, every billing address should get accepted?

I do understand they can still see the card was issued by another country, but I don't think this site cares as long as I use a billing address in the country they want and the card uses the currency (EUR) they require.

[empoweoqwj]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

Yes, I can unseal the card's envelope and send you the data. Then the card effectively becomes a VCC for you, and like with all VCCs, you have to trust the seller.

Do these cards work for online purchases? I know you say paypal, but other sites that accept credit / debit cards? Don't most sites require a name / address together with the cc info? Sorry for the dumbass questions....

Yes, they do, but they won't work on sites that only accept cards issued in US or UK. If a site only accepts cards from US, then you need a card issued by a US bank/financial institution and there's no way around it.

As for address, these cards generally work with any address (billing address and the address on the card doesn't need to match). And you can use them unregistered, which means you don't need to put any name or address on them. Worth to note: any site that knows your credit card number, will know what country and bank the card has been issued in, so keep that in mind.

ah ok, thanks for the explanation. I'm sure most sites worldwide will accept cards issued in US or UK. I'm actually looking for a card that is accepted by the Sony Entertainment Network because for some reason it doesn't accept my Thai visa card

[nishtrip15]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

Yes, I can unseal the card's envelope and send you the data. Then the card effectively becomes a VCC for you, and like with all VCCs, you have to trust the seller.

Do these cards work for online purchases? I know you say paypal, but other sites that accept credit / debit cards? Don't most sites require a name / address together with the cc info? Sorry for the dumbass questions....

Yes, they do, but they won't work on sites that only accept cards issued in US or UK. If a site only accepts cards from US, then you need a card issued by a US bank/financial institution and there's no way around it.

As for address, these cards generally work with any address (billing address and the address on the card doesn't need to match). And you can use them unregistered, which means you don't need to put any name or address on them. Worth to note: any site that knows your credit card number, will know what country and bank the card has been issued in, so keep that in mind.

ah ok, thanks for the explanation. I'm sure most sites worldwide will accept cards issued in US or UK. I'm actually looking for a card that is accepted by the Sony Entertainment Network because for some reason it doesn't accept my Thai visa card

Well, I don't have anything to comment on that. It's impossible for me to know all the rules and policies, every site has. You just have to read, the rules and guidelines. If the site only accepts cards from a specific country, then only the cards from that country will work.

Hey man,is it necessary to load first time to activate the card or we can directly link it to a Paypal account and start withdrawing?

[smeagol]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

card,

Yes, I can unseal the card's envelope and send you the data. Then the card effectively becomes a VCC for you, and like with all VCCs, you have to trust the seller.

For PayPal to send payments I need an address registered with a card, will this work?

[dubouis]

Does this mean these cards will work anywhere, say, China?

[chen2000]

HI..
pm please with full cost and western union details:
2 euro cards
1 GBP card
DHL tracked to China

[raxom]

Step 1. Seller reads cc number, expiry date and CVV2, before sending cc.
Step 2. Remotely checks periodically card's balance sending a SMS.
Step 3. If balance, he uses the card online (no more verification than those digits).
Step 4. (Optional) He calls +48 61 81 19999 and blocks card and account.
Step 5. Enjoy! 

[Phemy]

I've sent you a PM and a mail, Mateo. You seem legit and nice.

- Phemy

[Praeconium]

Hi Mateo,

what happens with actual account once the card is maxed out?

Can I access it via online banking of some sort?

[sleepyhollowz]

Can you pm , having problems with sending messages..

Gr

[raxom]

Step 1. Seller reads cc number, expiry date and CVV2, before sending cc.
Step 2. Remotely checks periodically card's balance sending a SMS.
Step 3. If balance, he uses the card online (no more verification than those digits).
Step 4. (Optional) He calls +48 61 81 19999 and blocks card and account.
Step 5. Enjoy! 

Can you comment on how is that possible? The cards come in sealed envelopes from the bank and I can't see the data of the card, unless the customer requests to unseal the envelope and send the data digitally.
Ask any of the people I sold to if the money in their cards went missing.

Also, you never bought from me, you're a brand new user with only two identical posts, both of which are aimed at me, so obviously you're an alt account of a card reseller just spreading FUD about a competitor.

Sorry, but I'm not a competitor spreading "fear, uncertainty and doubt". I'm just a guy really interested in getting prepaid cards and bank accounts. I discovered those VISA cards with IBAN and was very excited, but then I realized that it wasn't secure to get them via intermediaries. Maybe you're just a good guy doing business, but your system has security holes. Actually it's a problem with bank cards themselves. It isn't impossible to open/close a plain paper letter (or print a new one), check card's balance by SMS, use the card's numbers to buy online or even block the card remotely. If you say/promise that you don't do it, OK, but you can't deny it is feasible.
Ideally one could use the 'Verified by VISA' system, where you can password-protect your card, but that's an optional system for participating retailers.
You can change your card's PIN, but not the numbers printed on it.

This forum has more rules than North Korea: new users only allowed to post at "Beginners & Help", 360 sec rule, "cannot delete your own topics", and so on. I had to post there first, and cannot delete first "identical" post (aimed at anyone reselling cards).

[Chana]

Its really work i order 6 card got it after 3 day (europe). Register it , Use it to send money from paypal to my first card with low amount just about 27euro (got some problem on paypal after that they need adrees proof and shi't for verified -*-). But yeah i got 27euro out and use my card on ATM here in sweden without problem.

Just take out 100kr on ATM, but ya its work

Now i wait untill i got enough BTC from my mining for sell to get about 500euro+ to make SEPA withdraw on BTC-e . and i will make a proof later if nothing go wrong. To make more trust on Mateo .

End of this month i will got about 2BTC so i can sell and do withdraw with SEPA on BTC-e you guys can wait and see with me.

You can change your pin kod anytime and there is you info you put in then you register on bank side. I dont think Mateo can know about that infomation and e-mail that you put in.

That is just what i think . all i can do now is only wait and try it by myself.

sorry for my bad english but i try my best

Ps: I register paypal-poland account that its why i can take out money to poland bank

[maksm]

I too have ordered a card from mateo and everything was fine. Received the card in about 2 weeks. Very satisfied

[anondebitcard]

Hi Mateo are those the wbk right? have you ever had a problem when a business does iban transfer? when i received money from allegro.pl, the card stopped working. Any other transfer is fine, did it ever happened to you? i switched to mbank because of that.
Thanks in advance
Best of business with your sale!!!!!

[smeagol]

Is it possible to just get a card number and the security code?  I plan to use this card online only.

card,

Yes, I can unseal the card's envelope and send you the data. Then the card effectively becomes a VCC for you, and like with all VCCs, you have to trust the seller.

For PayPal to send payments I need an address registered with a card, will this work?

The card will work with any address on PayPal as billing info (except US and UK PayPals), both when the card is registered and unregistered.

I need it to work on the US paypal site...  Is that possible?

[sleepyhollowz]

Trusted guy ! Received it after some days!

[desib0y]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ldu8ht.png
Available.
Type: Anonymous reloadable VISA ELECTRON EUR prepaid card with it's own IBAN

Is it possible to integrate this card and the related account to an online payment processor?
I want to accept credit / debit card payments (Asia region) ANONYMOUSLY.

[knight210]

going to PM you.

[Wayne187]

Can I order 1 visa card (EUR) or is it still sold out? Thanks!

[Legions36]

Can I order 1 visa card (EUR) or is it still sold out? Thanks!

All cards are in stock now. I PMed you the details.

I sent u a pm let me know what u think.

[Wayne187]

And I replied. Thanks (: waiting for your answer

[olsen_sverre]

Is it possible to pay you for the card by Paypal?

Is it possible to send money to the card from another visa-card?

[Legions36]

OP is there a faster more reliable way to get a hold of u other than pm? I need to know what's going on faster or look elsewhere? I'm a serious no bs buyer, and waiting for a response from u.

[Legions36]

OP is there a faster more reliable way to get a hold of u other than pm? I need to know what's going on faster or look elsewhere? I'm a serious no bs buyer, and waiting for a response from u.

I apologize for the wait. I just replied to you. I have a large amount of inquiries right now and I look at each individually (I don't do auto or half-assed responses), so there are some delays. Usually, I reply in 2-12 hours.
My Skype is: mateo.talk (but you would have a better chance of reaching me through PM or email).

Ok i pmed u back and sent btc, with all my info to send it to. Let me know if u need anything else from me.

[ozkraut]

Anybody in Australia having had a go at this yet? Whats the verdict?

[StanleyYelnats]

Amazing service. Answered all of my questions promptly only took about a week and a half to get here. Will be doing business again. Thanks Mat!

[Legions36]

Anyone know an easy way to load a used card I just got? If I use wu what info do I give them, the ibn # or the card #? Also any other cash methods like moneypak or something. What if I just wired from my bank here, will it take a while? I don't want to mess this up and send it in the wrong place.

[ozkraut]

Anybody in Australia having had a go at this yet? Whats the verdict?

I don't think you're likely to get an answer here. I shipped to a few Australians here on this forum in the past, but I can't give you their usernames without their permission. I haven't received any complaints from them though, if my word means anything to you.

thanks for that. I tend to believe you going by the general thread. I will take it from here via PM

[ionic]

Hi

I ordered a card from mateo last week, sent him the btc (without escrow) and got my tracking ID only few hours later. The delivery took 4 working days and when the card arrived I activated it with a SEPA transfer from an exchange. 24 hours later the card was active and I have no problems to get money from an ATM and use the card online.

Amazing service, thx a lot mateo.

I'm looking forward to buy more cards from you.

[xpoint]

Anyone know an easy way to load a used card I just got? If I use wu what info do I give them, the ibn # or the card #? Also any other cash methods like moneypak or something. What if I just wired from my bank here, will it take a while? I don't want to mess this up and send it in the wrong place.

it is fairly easy to load card trough this web https://spectrocoin.com/ ( i'm not promoting it or anything) i did few cards trough this website, to get paypal activated and such, they dont need to much info and its really easy to get verified for repeat transfer
the con is that you will not get very good price for your BTC

[sLaughter313]

Can I use the EUR card to receive a EUR Withdrawal (SEPA) from BitStamp?

I quote what was written on the Stamp:

"THIRD PARTY WITHDRAWALS NOT ALLOWED!Third party withdrawals are defined as those withdraws which are meant to be transferred to account or financial institution that is titled in a name that is different from registered Bitstamp account. Transfers to corporate bank accounts may require further KYC checking."

Has anyone tried it?

[skilo]

What happens when the card expires? Can you order a new one from their website or no?

[sLaughter313]

Can I use the EUR card to receive a EUR Withdrawal (SEPA) from BitStamp?

I quote what was written on the Stamp:

"THIRD PARTY WITHDRAWALS NOT ALLOWED!Third party withdrawals are defined as those withdraws which are meant to be transferred to account or financial institution that is titled in a name that is different from registered Bitstamp account. Transfers to corporate bank accounts may require further KYC checking."

Has anyone tried it?

You can, but you would still have to verify the Bitstamp account with your ID and then just use your real name when withdrawing to the card's account. Also, you won't be able to provide bank statement with your name, because the cards are no-name cards, which means you will have to upload some utility bill instead. Any address or name will go through to the card's account, but the account itself is still in Poland, though, and you will have to specify Poland as the country when making a withdrawal.

So if I understand correctly I should fill in this way the Withdrawal?

https://i.imgur.com/uoqwjkw.png

[supersajin]

My plan is to need your services in about 3 months.

[MrPiggles]

Bitstamp will freeze your accounts if they suspect you use these

Not just me that has had this issue!

[skilo]

What happens when the card expires? Can you order a new one from their website or no?

You can order as many cards as you want, but when the card expires, it's generally better not to have any money on it and just take a new card.

The bank can automatically refund you the card's remaining balance to another Polish bank account (even another Polish prepaid card's account) when it expires, but you would have to register the card if you want this option. That is actually pretty much the only advantage card registration gives you with MB cards, for all other uses of MB cards, registration is redundant.

As for WK cards, you would have to contact the bank's support to get refunded, because that bank doesn't offer automatic refund.

Do these cards ship from the bank that issues them or do you ship the cards?

[MrPiggles]

Bitstamp might freeze your account if you're using a fake name (obviously). But it doesn't have anything to do with the cards.
If you don't want the risk of having your account blocked, then don't do anything against the site's TOS. This goes for everything, not just Bitstamp.

And Bitstamp isn't the only exchange, nor it would be the one I would recommend if you want anonymity. There are plenty of exchanges which don't require ID and allow third party withdrawals, which is what you want with these cards.

This is nothing to do with that. Bitstamp are targeting people using these cards for extra KYC

I'm still using mine, just a fair warning to people, you can't deny it unless you work for bitstamp and know for sure they aren't.

The cards are good and Mateo has no way of stealing the details or anything else people might be worried about. But if you're planning to use them on bitstamp be warned.

[smoothrunnings]

Fell free to ask questions here, if you have them.

Your conversion fee is too high. Every company who does business like this is lucky to make back their initial investment back but never survive much longer after that, were as companies who enter into the market place to snatch up clients offer lower fees and once they have a solid foundation they slowly raise the fees. Think of this way, what's worth more to your business 100 people at 3% conversion rate or 10,000 people (maybe more) at a 1% conversion rate, then in a year's time as more and more people start getting on board you raise the fee.

It would be nice if you could find away to offer these cards in North America, not just Europe, and either in USD or CAD.

[badmen]

@smoothrunnings: My reply on this matter might be mispaced but I pay for my personal (non-anonymous) CC here in the centre of Europe for all foreign currency conversions 2,1% conversion fee. As I understood the issuer of the anonymous bank is a Polish bank which islocated in a high-interest country -this makes their currency espensive- a conversion rate of 3% of the handling bank is more than understandable. Moreover, I think mateo cannot influence this rate by himself...

I believe VISA will not allow the offical sale of this product worldwide, forced by organizations with 3 big letters
 -thats my personal opinion-

 

[E.exchanger]

Any feedbacks on it plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?

[loader140]

Any feedbacks on it plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?

I've been selling these cards for 8 months here and have a perfect reputation. I was also selling them on Bimit and Coingig until their shutdown.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=96445
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmit.net%2Fen%2Fuser%2Fmateo&date=2013-12-19
http://archive.is/UQyOd

Plus, you can browse this thread. Many people have provided feedback on this thread.

They will work in physical and online shops in US, which accept European credit cards. They won't work for US PayPal verification, as that requires US bank account to be verified.


Best regards,
mateo

Will they work with PAYPAL UK?

[MrPiggles]

Any feedbacks on it plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?

I've been selling these cards for 8 months here and have a perfect reputation. I was also selling them on Bimit and Coingig until their shutdown.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=96445
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmit.net%2Fen%2Fuser%2Fmateo&date=2013-12-19
http://archive.is/UQyOd

Plus, you can browse this thread. Many people have provided feedback on this thread.

They will work in physical and online shops in US, which accept European credit cards. They won't work for US PayPal verification, as that requires US bank account to be verified.


Best regards,
mateo

Will they work with PAYPAL UK?

I answered this question in your PM, but will answer here again anyway, so the others could see:
Probably not, because UK PayPal requires UK bank account to be verified, as far as I know. These cards have Polish bank accounts attached to them.
Same goes for US and Canada PayPals. Although, I never tried these cards with US, Canaa or UK PayPal, so I really can't confirm that.

You can use them to purchase stuff with a UK paypal account but they will only verify a polish paypal account

[villem75]

Does these cards work in internet shops that have "Verified by Visa" secured payment?

[MrPiggles]

Does these cards work in internet shops that have "Verified by Visa" secured payment?

No, but a lot of sites also accept paypal, and you can checkout as a guest on paypal using these cards on most sites that decline you for not having VBV.

Seems stupid, but its worked for me several times.

[---BTC---]

I'm very interested about your service, PM sent.

[telnet]

I'm very interested about your service, PM sent.

And I have answered

I too have sent PM
I look forward to business with you

[bitfromit]

Delivered. Works. Secure. Good stuff mateo.

[conspirosphere.tk]

There are plenty of exchanges which don't require ID and allow third party withdrawals, which is what you want with these cards.

Can you name some of these exchanges who do not require ID or allow third party withdrawal?
I never seen anyone like that -except localbitcoins which is not really an exchange.

[barwizi]

can these cards be used anywhere in the world? i mean at any visa atm?

[EfterlysT]

I just bought ten EUR cards, fast shipping and no problems.

Thanks !

[Legions36]

Can someone pm me which exchanges will allow me to do those transfers to these? I'm in u.s. Btw

[KrakenB]

Awesome seller - superb communication and prompt shipment. Would definitely recommend!

[telnet]

Bought 2 cards from this seller, both arrived within 4 days. Great support with answering questions and responding (<24h)

Would definitely recommend to anyone who's looking to get quick prepaid visas.

[fantasia]

i am interested in purchasing the visa usd card. do you ship worldwide? how do i go about purchasing the card. thanks

[barwizi]

Very satisfied customer here. Quick delivery, very helpful person. I, look forward to more.

[seleme]

Could you check with your bank if they offer custom designs? It could be handy to make customs not suspicious if some bigger quantity would be ordered, I could say it's collectible items.

[barwizi]

just out of curiosity, how big was your largest order?

[DavidKD]

Hey mateo I am interested in MB cards but I want to know, can I send money from one MB card or MB a/c to another MB card or MB a/c?

[angry|days|]

Bought five EUR cards, fast shipping and prompt replies to questions, really nice and customer-oriented service. Cards are working as described, solved a lot of my problems Will be back for more!

[Todamont]

Is there any anonymous way to load these using bitcoin? Maybe through btc-e?

[nyana]

btc-e offers direct load of visa/mastercard.

Is this possible with your cards?

See:

https://btc-e.com/news/201

[anne1985]

Do these cards already come with money in them or do yiu have to add money to the account

[balanghai]

Do these cards already come with money in them or do yiu have to add money to the account

The cards come empty and must be loaded by bank/SEPA transfer with any amount to be activated.

Any bitcoin accepting loader/fund transfer guide? I wonder how I could load one if ever I wanted it to verify paypal as I cannot send to cards until I'm verified.

[fightingchacha]

Hi mateo. I am interest with your offers. I wanna asking, where login online transaction website with this card if i purchase euro card? can you shipping in Indonesia, how much fee shipping? How long shipping that in my country? Can I paying with paypal or payoner? What different between VISA MB EUR card with VISA WK EUR? waiting your reply.... thanks

[passionplux]

I need this card to Fully verify a Poland Paypal

The IBAN will be used to verify the Paypal While the card details will be used to verify paypal address .

Ques : Will I need to load fund into the card in other to use it to successfully verify the Poland Payypal  acccount ?

Ques : Can I add an address to the Card?

Anybody who have experience in using this card to Fully verifying a Poland Paypal can advice me on what to do please .

I don't live Poland by the way . I will neeed a VPN with Poland IP to make this work right ...and can you recommend any ?

I might also need a phone number right ....

Please before I buy this card can anyone who have experience with what I am talking about can pls drop a tip or two

thankkks

[Clevername123]

btc-e offers direct load of visa/mastercard.

Is this possible with your cards?

See:

https://btc-e.com/news/201

Haven't tested it, but, yes. Almost certainly, yes.
"Does it matter in which country my card is issued ?
We can fund any card (VISA/MasterCard) in any country."

These are standard Visa debit cards without any specific limits from the bank's side, apart from those stated on the first page of this thread.

Well I just jumped on BTC-E and it looks like VISA Electrons wont be able to be loaded from that exchange.
https://btc-e.com/news/193

Could you inform me of any small exchanges that could make these withdrawls, similar to what conspirosphere was looking for?

Thanks!

[Shibby01]

Hi there.

I am interested in buying a card for testing and later more if the first one is ok.

Please PM me for the details.

thanks

shibby01

[cigrojoe]

HI MATEO

I WANT EUR CARD TO TRY AND IF WORK I WILL BUY MORE


PM

[Andrej]

Hello Mateo, can you verify neteller with the VISA MB EUR?

What about online gambling websites can you use it as an withdrawal method?

Best Regards

[Spartacus7777]

Hi,
I sent you a PM. Please check that

[Andrej]

Hello Mateo, can you verify neteller with the VISA MB EUR?

What about online gambling websites can you use it as an withdrawal method?

Best Regards

Yes and yes. Provided they can withdraw to a Visa card or a polish bank account.

I would like to buy a VISA MB EUR via priority unregistered letter. Which means of payment do you accept?

[Bitfanatic88]

Sent you a PM.

[colinrbox]

did you get the money i sent for the 10 x MB GBP card?

[conspirosphere.tk]

mateo: can an euro MB card be funded with a bank wire in USD?

[rbbttk]

Do you speak polish mateo?

[tarmi]

smooth transaction.

thanks.

[kacheslepr]

As my positive feedback here are a couple of advices for those who have time to read this thread. If you are scrupulous about fees and percents then think twice about card currency in order to escape double and triple currency conversions (even had such, not because of bank but because of merchant and card currency that was chosen initially). Also you can see dates and amounts of transactions in both systems and in WK you can see original descriptions of transactions as they were entered by merchant or depositor. And MB shows descriptions like: "Card deposit", "ATM withdrawal", "Purchase", etc. And mateo provides you with a polish ssn required for card registration.

And here is my PM conversation (agreed with mateo). Didn't find spoiler or roller to hide the conversation and make the post shorter.

Regards

Sorry for disturbing but could you tell me the pin, please?

Regards

No problem. A bit nonstandard, I see. Sorry for that. Seems like ok now. In several days I'll try to register and load the card. Rather unlikely but let you know in case of questions. Then I'll live a feedback.

Thanks

Still haven't got any feedback from you. I've paid you **** btc. Could you provide me with visa wk ****currency**** card credentials, please? Details are in conversation below. Please let me know in case of any issues, doubts or concerns.

http://blockchain.info/tx/****

Regards

I'll stick by visa wk ****currency**** then. Please let me know the credentials. My contacts ****username emaildomain com****, if necessary.

Regards

Does visa wk ****currency**** require ssn, phone or address verification for online panel?

Regards

Payed B**** (rate $****, from ****bitcoinaddress****).

Could you give some examples of transaction history to show the difference between ****currency**** electron and standard cards, please? Is there difference in history of outbound transactions?

Regards

Great. If possible I would also ask card's photo and to keep a card safe till expiration just in case.

Could you briefly describe followed procedures:

1. How long does it take to issue a ****currency**** card;
2. Do both ****currency**** card types work with paypal or perhaps there are more options;
3. What is your bitcoin address to accept payments.


Regards

Hi mateo,

I just wonder is it possible to email just card credentials without shipping a card?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254533.0


Regards

Yes. I call it digital delivery. That would simply be me opening the envelope and sending you the data. We can do that if you really want that. I can even scan the cards with magstripe reader and send you the output, if you know what to do with it.


Accepted payment methods: Bitcoin, bank transfer, Western Union, MoneyGram, WebMoney.

Best regards,
mateo

1. None, if you're buying a no-name card. I have them in stock and can send them to you on the same day. If you want a custom card with your name or something else you came up with on it, then it would take about two weeks. The cards I have just have "PREPAID CARD" written on them instead of a name.
2. Yes, they do, but not US, UK or Canada PayPals.
3. Well, here's one: ****bitcoinaddress****

Best regards,
mateo

Some examples:
MB PLN: http://****
WK EUR: http://****

As you can see MB cards have a bit more rudimentary transaction history.

Best regards,
mateo

They require a Polish SSN, address and phone to be entered into an online form, but there's no verification. You just enter into a form to register the card.

Best regards,
mateo

Card credentials: http://****
**** pass: ****

The link is gonna be live for one day and deleted afterwards. If you don't manage to download by then, let me know.

Here's a link for the instructions:
http://****

If you're gonna be using the card unregistered and want to check balance by SMS, use this number: +****
if the one given in the instructions isn't working (+**** hasn't been working for the past few days for some reason). I will update my instructions if the problem persists.
If you're gonna register the card, I would advice to use a name from the country the card is gonna be used in, not a Polish one, in case you need to call the bank's support one day.

Please feel free to ask me questions and don't forget to provide your feedback.

Best regards,
mateo

Ok, don't forget that now I have cards from another bank as well (MB cards). Please check out these links for differences between my cards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254533.0
http://docdroid.net/954i
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/11861143/file.html

Best regards,
mateo

You're not disturbing. PIN: https://****

Best regards,
mateo

[BlackMarketKarma]

Hello, I need 5 of these please, PM with quote and I can send right away..

[drkn]

Please reply to my e-mail.

[tigerfree]

how long it will take to reload it ?

[coiner8]

Do NOT use Spectrocoin to fund these cards.  They require ID verification for all withdrawals both SEPA and Bitcoin.  Who the fuck requires ID verification for Bitcoin withdrawals?  Of course they don't require verification before you deposit, so they just keep whatever you deposit if you don't want to do ID verification.

[txlegally]

i've now purchased these cards for a few vendors here and other places.  this guy is number 1, and its really not even close.   dhl to my door in 3 days, north america.  i'm lucky to get one in three weeks from other vendors.

thanks man. 

[bitmarket.io]

I am trying to order some so how do I proceed?

I need 1 VISA with 200USD funded on it. When can I get it?

[nosdi26]

i want a card also..
just pm you,thanks

[Bitfanatic88]

Received the cards within 3 days, perfect service.

[drkn]

I'm still waiting for my cards or a refund.

[RaitR]

I would like to buy one, EUR one, gonna send u a PM.

[joanwert]

Interested in some cards, Sent you a pm.

[nosdi26]

i sent you the payment for 2 cards one for euro, one for usd, inform me for the shipping
thanks

[kqpahv]

Whats the difference between MB and WK cards ?

[james_bold]

Hello

What happend when i overload card , is it possible at all? ..I ask this because I do not know what exactly is the amount. For example someone make sepa transfer with amount 2590€ in my card and card max is 2500e, what happeend

 

[Andrej]

Very professional, transaction went smooth, gave me all the support I needed, great guy.

[Smack That Ace]

Hello Mateo
I have been constantly trying to get in touch with you over the past 4 days and yet there is no response but active posts on your page.
I have read all your reviews and believe that people are correct about you and your service and i agree with them but when push comes to shove and i need my card activated its not happening specially when i waited over 10 days to recieve the card.
Also i see there are many other vendors on this forum who are selling reactivated card and i know many of my friends who are waiting fro your response.
I also understand that you might be busy but a small reply or an auto message would be very satisfactory right now.
please let me know how to get in touch with you
Regards
Duke

[Arbitrageur]

card received within days! super efficient service. now looking forward to fully test it. wiring a few hundreds euro today. keep everybody posted, but so far so good.

[kqpahv]

Whats the difference between MB and WK cards ?

The differences are laid out in the thread, but the main difference is that an MB card doesn't need to be registered to check the balance and transaction history online. So, you pretty much just take the card, load it and use it. All MB cards, except MB PLN are without a Chip. MB cards are Visa, and WK are Visa Electron. The card's panel is different for WK and MB cards. Also, please read the warning on my thread, that WK cards can get blocked.

Thank You for explaining that.
How bad is the risk of an WK card getting blocked ? Is there a pattern why they are blocked such as using them on other continents or smth ? As magnetic cards are pretty useless in the EU (no ATM support) due to security risks I guess I need the WK ones. Loosing 2500€ per card because it getting blocked does not sound too good though.

[placeb0]

Ordered 2 card 4 day ago. Today received them! Great reliable service. Thanks Mateo!

[kqpahv]

Ok, thank you. I am gonna go with MB cards then just to be safe.
Where I live magnetic cards do not work in ATM's for over two years now because of the threat of scimmers so its just a client security issue.

[james_bold]

Card has own iban, do we know name of the bank ?

My reloader ask these, is reload possible ? 

Info needed:

- Account number:
- Iban Or Swift Code
- Bank name
- Account holder name


I think account holder can be "john doe", what about acc number ?

[garyrsanchez]

I have a few questions regarding fees.

1. Lets say I do an International Wire Transfer from Russia(funds are in Rubles) to load my USD MB card, do I get charged the 3% currency conversion fee?
2. If not, when does the conversion fee apply? Only when purchasing/withdrawing in a currency other than what the card is in? Example: USD Card, Purchase GBP I get charged 3%?

[james_bold]

Card has own iban, do we know name of the bank ?

Yes and yes.

- Account number:
- Iban Or Swift Code
- Bank name
- Account holder name

- Account number: also known as the IBAN (in Europe at least) Every card has it's own separate IBAN, which is for loading that specific card.
- Iban Or Swift Code - IBAN, look above, SWIFT (otherwise known as BIC) is just a code identifying a specific bank (kind of like a car's license plate). SWIFT doesn't tell you anything about the account, it only tells in which bank the account is. If you know the bank's name, you know the SWIFT and vice versa.
- Bank name - again look above. Both the SWIFT and bank's name are in the .pdf instructions that I send to people, as well as on the card's TOS page, that you get with the card.
- Account holder name - can be anything (at least for MB cards) - personal or company name or simply "Prepaid Card".

I hope that clears it up a little for you, as well as for other people.

Thaks, very informative  !  Thats just wanna know, i order card for you soon 

[falken1989]

Hi
I recived the card yesterday, fast shipping and tracking no, very professional seller, easy to get contact and fast reply, i would gladly recommend this seller.

[fantasia]

got mine too. although the shipping wasnt so fast cos i live halfway across the world but i received and it works. thanks mateo

[nosdi26]

mine probably on monday,,easter holidays make me wait more..

[mescalito]

Do you sell both the anonymous and standard MB card? The anon one is that with Statue of Liberty pic?

[mescalito]

Standard would be issued in name.

[petercooper]

Thinking of buying one of these cards for GBP... Just wondering how I can load anonymously though? I can't seem to find a BTC exchange that doesn't need ID verification?
LocalBTC seems a pain for SEPA as most people are doing quick 'faster payments'..
Not sure if this cards suited for me if it's hard to load :\
Thanks   

[LeChatNoir]

I've received and activated EUR prepaid card, it works very well TY mateo!

[MrStein]

Hi, i'm interested too for these cards. To be more specific, I need 5 Visa MB Eur cards (if they are available).

I've just sent you a PM. 

[kqpahv]

Bought some MB cards and they arrived to me very quickly on the third morning after Mateo had posted them with free shipping  
I am very happy with the service over all (Y)
Found out that the USD card is really expensive to use for some reason - From the 200$ I transferred from Bitstamp with sepa only 186$ showed up on the account. With EUR cards and and exchanges dealing with Euros nothing was lost.


PS: The tutorial on tempsend seems to be missing now  


Will be buying some more cards and can recommend Mateo to anyone interested in those cards  

[Arbitrageur]

I used the card, both in a shop and for an internet payment. All smoothly. I'd be interested in buying 3 more.

[nemos]

please PM me, I want a PLN card

[Opal]

Hey, can any US customer confirm if there's any issue with using nameless credit cards in the US?

[timelessvibes]

is it proven that these cards will work on a usa atm?

also
are you only accepting btc payments for these cards?

[fsk141]

Ohmigosh; mateo has been such a pleasure to work with.

I got a few cards, they arrived promptly, sent some money to one of them via btc-e visa/mastercard funding method, and the money didn't show up. Come to find out you HAVE to send a few dollars to activate the card (via IBAN first). He helped me out by sending a couple bucks, card is activated, all the money I sent was there waiting for me

Thanks for being awesome, would absolutely recommend buying from him. Just went out to sushi via anon bitcoin, super excited!

[bull_pup]

Do you know whether these cards can accept payment from currencyfair.com? usually this site only allows transfers onto an account in your own name.

[foofoo]

I need to add the poland atm card with iban to paypal. I have uk and some other euro ebay and paypal, can I add
this card to uk and euro paypal and withdraw, or do i need a poland paypal??

[impresionesmline]

Someone do verified a paypal with these cards?

[charles.chad]

I want one and ill use it for Paypal. If i can verify a paypal and receive funds in it, that would be great. I'll post the review here.

[coiner8]

So the exchange that many have been using for transferring to these cards via SEPA is going to start requiring ID verification after May 30th.  The exchange is the one with the initials TRT.  So get your money out now if you like your privacy!  The details are in the exchange's news section:

For Individuals only:
Level 1 – Crypto currencies trades without any FIAT deposits or withdrawals: No documents necessary
Level 2 - FIAT deposits and or withdrawals up to Euro or US$ 15.000 monthly: Upload a copy of your Passport or national ID and a recent utility bill
Level 3 - FIAT deposits and or withdrawals over Euro or US$ 15.000 monthly: We will mail you documents to be signed and returned to us

Also a question for mateo: in this situation would there be a currency conversion fee (assuming MB/WK USD card):

USD on exchange -> SEPA in USD -> Withdraw from ATM in USD

Edit: Also for mateo: would it be possible to set up a private thread somewhere that only your customers could access?  That way we could discuss which exchanges to use and the best ways to stay anonymous more openly.

[cahirlet]

ordered a MB plan card, will update when arrived excellent communication so far.

[timelessvibes]

Success! my MB card arrived in 9 days to the east coast


will update on paypal confirmation.

[clubminer]

what price per card??

[carlinhosbrown]

i buy one and all ok and mateo answer all my questions

thanks,

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

BTC-e requires no AML?

[bitmarket.io]

What is the maximum you can load on a card? Is it possible to load 1100 EUR on a card? I need one of those every month.  Just the numbers, not physical card.

[DeadlyRhytm]

I want one MB VISA, sent PM.

[microkr]

Also interested.

[maxquinn]

Interested - emailed you.

[nemos]

Very fast shipping, attentive attitude to customers. Very pleased I will address again. Thank you, Mateo.

[tony2014]

u have i need one

[timelessvibes]

i can vouch that the usd cards work with paypal

[ReBoRn]

I also want a Card but I also want a bank account with this can I have this and can I receive money in this bank account safely from other peoples

[darkphantom934]

I'd like one, PM me.

[sLaughter313]

i want to buy 1 VISA MB EUR, pm me 

[kittucrypt]

Can this be used to withdraw fiat from bitstamp in exchange of btc? Does bitstamp require ID now?

[mdzedzej]

please pm me i would like to buy one as long as it is greendot reloadable

[ptsigma]

has anyone try upload fund on entropay with these cards?

[ptsigma]

is it ok use more than 1 card? if i buy 2 cards, i have 5k yearly limit in summary, right?

[BitcoinAccepted]

Vouch for Mateo.

Quick delivery and great customer service - many thanks.

[jawwad20]

hello,


@ meto , i need to buy this re loadable card from you , can you accept paypal as a payment method ?

Please let me know thanks ..

 

[jawwad20]

Okay i got your message , i will be ordering card from you soon .

Thanks

[darkphantom934]

What happens when these cards expire?

[Justin00]

is IBAN like the account number ? or something to do with international number ?
is it like a BSB/ACCT number like we would call it in Australia ?
might be interested.. need to do a bit more research.

[myprivatename]

Do you have any USD cards?  PM me.

[lito]

I would like to order some  EU cards, how do i proceed ? PM ?

[shizuska]

Ordered a card from him, all went very smooth. A+ service!

[Nemesis Xanity]

Mailed you some questions, can you please check them? Thanks.

[Smack That Ace]

Hello,

Hope you are doing well.

I just wanted to ask you, how can i load my card with bitcoins. As in what exchange will i use to load my card through Iban.

Do i have to use an exchange or some person off the OTC ?

Regards

Duke

[Smack That Ace]

Thankyou for your response

Regards

Duke

[legendster]

These cards are available to us Indians ?

Do you sell VCCs that are acceptable by paypal ?

[djeZo]

I am confirming - it works 

[txlegally]

lol @ the paypal/VCC dude.  no shame.

i just wanted to pop on here and kiss some ass before i place another order with mateo.   i've ordered these card several times from several vendors on several sites.  first off, non have been able to get them to me in less than two weeks.  no one.  mateo: 2 business days .


most of those vendors charged about $40. mateo: 20 (approximately)


he's johnny on the spot with communication and he does all the addition (don't know if he likes that part or not) for you, lays it out in a message that is easy to understand, and will honor your requests for encrypted communications. 

you'd think all these qualities would be easy to come by, well i assure with this fucking deal it is not.    hell, i kind of consider him a partner.  because if he goes away, i am going to have to work about 20 more hours a week for a little while. 

[/asskissing]

[kovacicn]

Very impressive and fast service!!!

Many thanks Mateo!

[rodeoclownicp]

do you have a card for the usa? can it be loaded with btc?

[oldman17539]

Ordered 10 cards from mateo and I was impressed. He is an excellent seller with patience and impressive customer service and with very fast shipping service.

looking forward to order again the next cards from mateo. 

[conspirosphere.tk]

Ordered 10 cards from mateo and I was impressed. He is an excellent seller with patience and impressive customer service and with very fast shipping service.

looking forward to order again the next cards from mateo. 

+1
I received today his second delivery. The cards works flawlessly and he's been very helpful when requested for info.

[ReBoRn]

I am also interested in this card but first of all want to ask can I have bank account with this or no because I need one bank account also

[ReBoRn]

I am also interested in this card but first of all want to ask can I have bank account with this or no because I need one bank account also

Every card has a unique Polish IBAN/bank account, which can accept International/SEPA wires from all over the world, as well as cash deposits. You can make a wire transfer to the card's account, but not from it. The card's account is just for loading the card, and all the money that gets credited to the account goes to the card's balance, where you can use it to withdraw in ATMs or make online or POS purchases.

Sent you a PM by the way.

Thanks buddy now very soon I am going to send you payment for my Card good,quick and informative reply

[Ultro]

Hi, is PayPal withdrawing to card still working without any problems? I mean, if I decide to withdraw to card from a new Slovenian PayPal wouldn't the account become limited or something. The card location would differ from the accounts data. Also, wouldn't the withdraw be canceled because the cards are anonymous without any billing name, address associated? What experiences have other your customers faced with withdrawing from PayPal?

[alexander76]

I m interested ... VISA WK EUR
Do you have minimum order?

[cech4204a]

I never understood how can you have VISA card with IBAN that is Annonymous? Can you explain me how it's functioning please? How do you top it up than if you are annonymous?

[Morphey]

Hi, is PayPal withdrawing to card still working without any problems? I mean, if I decide to withdraw to card from a new Slovenian PayPal wouldn't the account become limited or something. The card location would differ from the accounts data. Also, wouldn't the withdraw be canceled because the cards are anonymous without any billing name, address associated? What experiences have other your customers faced with withdrawing from PayPal?

Yes, it's working. PayPal to Mateo's Visa with no problems. It takes 2 days for PayPal approval, and another 2 days to see the money on the card.

Thanks Mateo.

[rodeoclownicp]

these are useful but when mateo said they can be loaded with btc he meant the same way any debit card can be loaded with btc-like the debit card you have now- its not like u can put in btc and get usd loaded - its just using coinbase the same way u do now- but it still is a good deal

[lito]

Tahnks you Mateo !

I have orded three cards, there were'nt any problems and i got the cards 3 days after the order. Great service.

[dzanuv]

How do you know that BZ WBK cards can be easily blocked?

Only by reports from customers or you are also notified about the cards you sell? I mean, are you somehow responsible for the cards you sell?

I recently had problems with a cinkciarz card. The IBAN they gave me to transfer the money was from mBank but when the money hasn't landed in my account they told me to contact BZ. I made 2 transfers and none appeared in my account. I'll not use them again.

Will you also offer the higher limits mBank cards ($9.6k/mo) that other seller is selling here?


thanks

[rodeoclownicp]

Sorry, for replying so late.
The best way to load these card's is by bank transfer.
There are many methods to do that: direct bank transfer, Wester Union or similar cash outlet, by Bitcoin through a Bitcoin exchange or Bitcoin market (where you send Bitcoin to some person and he sends it to the bank account) to name a few. Paypal, Skrill, and similar payment processors are also viable.

HOW DO I LOAD THESE CARDS WITHBTC... i dont want to use an exchange like coinbase... that requires a coinbase account.. i want it to be more automated like i put my card number in and send my btc and a service that doesnt care who i am sends my fiat into my account..

[speediscure]

HOW DO I LOAD THESE CARDS WITHBTC... i dont want to use an exchange like coinbase... that requires a coinbase account.. i want it to be more automated like i put my card number in and send my btc and a service that doesnt care who i am sends my fiat into my account..

Hi. You can use a market place (no ID) where you sell BTC to a person (online) and the buyer sends fiat to your card's IBAN.
Or some kind of voucher/gift card system.

[franky69]

I sent pm to you, sry if you receive more than 1 pm, I new and I not see any message how its sent...

[SunnyIgor]

Ordered 10 cards from mateo and I was impressed. He is an excellent seller with patience and impressive customer service and with very fast shipping service.

looking forward to order again the next cards from mateo. 

+1
I received today his second delivery. The cards works flawlessly and he's been very helpful when requested for info.

I agree, i ordered some and they work perfectly.
Also he was very helpful,

Thumbs up!

[sionsandman]

Those higher limits cards aren't acquired legally, and I don't deal in things that are illegal.

What about the ING cards?

Those are legal and have higher limits.

[greotanov]

mm nice opportunity .. some day i could order one of those cards...
are they good? sombody use them ? 

[ohmydayz]

Please pm me op, thanks.

[sionsandman]

Those higher limits cards aren't acquired legally, and I don't deal in things that are illegal.

What about the ING cards?

Those are legal and have higher limits.

Not without ID verification.

BZ cards also ask for name and pesel.

What additional verification does ING do?

[Nemesis Xanity]

Received my card from him yesterday in excellent condition.
Very friendly seller, also helping me with the activation process.
If you're thinking about buying from him, do not hesitate.

[Thyaga]

sorry, I just want to make my self clear.
Is this Debit Card or Credit Card?

[AppleKuchenX8]

I've have pmed you, please check your inbox ! Thanks... 

[savur]

hi I live in Ukraine and I want to register in coinbase Can I do this? Here are the rules http://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1404401-can-i-add-a-non-us-credit-card-or-one-that-has-a-non-us-address-

[ranochigo]

hi I live in Ukraine and I want to register in coinbase Can I do this? Here are the rules http://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1404401-can-i-add-a-non-us-credit-card-or-one-that-has-a-non-us-address-

I don't think so, OP stated that this is a Poland debit card. Coinbase requires a bank account from US and a credit card.

[lito]

Can you poin to some sites that can be used to sell btc and withdraw to the Mbank card ?
I have previously used Bitstamp with the WBK cards, but as you say in pm, bitstamp only allows withdrawing to a bank account with the same holders names as the account holder.

[ranochigo]

Can you poin to some sites that can be used to sell btc and withdraw to the Mbank card ?
I have previously used Bitstamp with the WBK cards, but as you say in pm, bitstamp only allows withdrawing to a bank account with the same holders names as the account holder.

Localbitcoins would be a good idea. If not, try kraken or Virwox. Virwox fees are quite steep. I'm happy with localbitcoins, their price isn't bad and do not require verifications.

[Anduck]

Have you tried out selling these at #bitcoin-otc yet? Would be more convenient for some buyers than the forums..

[hangten]

I got my visa prepaid  mb usa card from mateo yesterday. Does anyone know for the first time loading the card if I can use moneygram or western union? I would also like to know if I can change the pin# and if yes how does that work?

[ranochigo]

I got my visa prepaid  mb usa card from mateo yesterday. Does anyone know for the first time loading the card if I can use moneygram or western union? I would also like to know if I can change the pin# and if yes how does that work?

You cannot change your pin, it is fixed. Also, you must load the card by IBAN, you should be able to use them to load the card.

[Trilador]

Excellent seller, he's fast, helpful, and trustworthy I went first and he even went out of his way to accommodate me.

[hangten]

I bought a visa mb card usa 2 days ago from Mateo. Can anyone tell me why I cant activate this card without having to load money into the card account? 2nd question I have a 26 digit number on a piece of non English written paper,is this the prepaid visa account number? Third question How would I know if I send money to this card it would not be someone else's bank account? 4th last question. I live in the USA can I send money through western union to load this card for the first time and every time?

[alexmoody]

sent you a mail. could you answer me ?

thanks

[AppleKuchenX8]

This is legit, totally legit I have just received my card today ... Thanks man....

[ulisse]

The site instantvcc.eu stopped working. All cards were sold by instantvcc.eu and they locked by mBank.

Your cards are from mBank too. Do they work or not now?

instantvcc.eu announcement:

https://instantvcc.eu/image/data/logo.png

[AppleKuchenX8]

The site instantvcc.eu stopped working. All cards were sold by instantvcc.eu and they locked by mBank.

Your cards are from mBank too. Do they work or not now?

instantvcc.eu announcement:

https://instantvcc.eu/image/data/logo.png

I have just got my card I hope that's not true O.o

[Dansoft.se]

They are still offer similar cards here in Sweden.
But here are they called Visa Gift cards

https://www.wuprepaid.com/wuprepaid/public/login.do?login

[ranochigo]

In the event that the card is demagnetized, will you be able to send us a new card? Also, how do you prevent yourself from dealing with scammers?

[hgerson]

They are still offer similar cards here in Sweden.
But here are they called Visa Gift cards

https://www.wuprepaid.com/wuprepaid/public/login.do?login

Do these cards have IBAN?
I don't think so.

[alexmoody]

Obliging, friendly, professional, helpful, reliable, honestly...

One of the best online seller I ever met.
100% trustful.

cheers
moody

[Romulou7]

Fell free to ask questions here, if you have them.

.   How can I get one of the USA ones? Please email me back at 7n9ner@gmail.com with details of price and how the transaction operates.

[dragon1245]

Hi,

I recently bought a MB EUR Visa from mateo and am completely satisfied by the card and seller, everything went well, no problems at all. A++ seller as far as I'm concerned.

[FernandoJr]

Would you do discounts if I ordered 10+?


Can I use them in Denmark or UK?

[janahoch]

Hello,
 
What is your fee to send one of these cards pre-loaded?

[scrupulous]

Hi,

I'm just new here, would like to ask if it's Possible here in Philippines?

Thanks

[ReBoRn]

Hi,

I'm just new here, would like to ask if it's Possible here in Philippines?

Thanks

Yes you can buy this from any part of world its not a problem these are anonymous

[dzanuv]

I recently had problems with a cinkciarz card. The IBAN they gave me to transfer the money was from mBank but when the money hasn't landed in my account they told me to contact BZ. I made 2 transfers and none appeared in my account. I'll not use them again.

Cinkiarz cards aren't issued by neither mBank, nor BZ. Who gave you the IBAN to transfer money to?

I think you are wrong. I bought one card directly from cinkciarz and it has a cinkciarz logo but all the paperwork was BZ.

They have a custom control panel but their service sucks.

I also bought another card on ebay that has "cinkciarz" printed on it but it's an mbank card. I registered it on mbank site and it works fine (apparently like all mbank cards  )

The IBAN was provided by cinkciarz.

They generate a temporary IBAN in their control panel that's valid for 10 days (or so they say!) but it works very bad at least with incoming transfers from outside Poland. My transfers never appeared in my control panel and I had to contact them by email all the time.

I also discovered that I could transfer money directly to the IBAN printed on card but those transfers won't show in cinkciarz control panel. The money was on the card though. Maybe I could have registered this card directly on BZ site bypassing cinkciarz and maybe it worked better.

... PayPal is known for mass red-flagging cards' BINs, if a significant number of users misuse them. I'll be getting some new cards with different BINs soon, though.

What are BINs?


Regards

[sLaughter313]

today i just check my "history of operations" on mbank eu card and i saw

https://i.imgur.com/Atk6A2C.png

afaik is the paypal verification stuff
is not mine, wtf is this? someone has guessed my card data?

[sLaughter313]

today i just check my "history of operations" on mbank eu card and i saw

https://i.imgur.com/Atk6A2C.png

afaik is the paypal verification stuff
is not mine, wtf is this? someone has guessed my card data?

It seems someone is trying to verify a PayPal account with your card. You only need card number, expiry and CVV for that, with these cards. Have you showed the card to anyone, or payed on a site that is not entirely trustful?

no i don't

[AlexMass]

Hi,

have the same problem. Seems like Mbank starts approve payments or may be someone can help me.

My story: bought a card 3 months ago, top up balance and started to use it. I use this card every day, everywhere. Bought a lot in Internet, used it in aliexpress, ebay, paypal... So a few days ago I used it to buy airline tickets, and used a lot to buy labels for shipping in transglobalexpress...
I used their labels a lot and it was not my first time, but some labels I did not need and I asked for refund, they approve it.
After that I bought some stuff from aliexpress and used my card in ebay.

I decided to buy a new airline ticket for me, top up my card and 2 days ago I saw, that I can not pay, I tried everywhere, can not pay! I tried to get my money back in ATM - also nothing, there I saw: technical error.

I have log in in my card and saw:
http://zagruzitfoto.com/images/2014/08/09/zk7cb.jpg
it seems like card is active. But does not work... is it blocked? Who has blocked cards? Where should be written that it was blocked?

Here is my history, I have some questions about that too:
http://zagruzitfoto.com/images/2014/08/09/3MRoy.jpg

05.08.2014   -17,42EUR   -17,42EUR   -17,42EUR   KOREKTA SALDA - OBCIĄŻENIE
WHAT DOES IT MEAN? It seems like MBANK tried to check my balance and I have to pay for this?

04.08.2014   16,39EUR   16,39EUR   16,39EUR   ZASILENIE KARTY   - also something strange. Who send money to my account? for what? how?

03.08.2014   -1,00EUR      -1,00EUR   BLOKADA: ZAKUP PRZY UŻYCIU KARTY - INTERNET   EBAY INTL AG - AT WIENVIENNAAUS
BLOKADA: ZAKUP PRZY UŻYCIU KARTY what does it mean? It was not my first time, why there is a status BLOKADA:, because this status appear only after I could not pay, before that, I have not this status

28.07.2014   -1,00EUR      -1,00EUR   BLOKADA: ZAKUP PRZY UŻYCIU KARTY - INTERNET   BRITISH AIRWAYS PLC - LONDON
The same problem - it was not there a few days ago...

24.07.2014   30,76EUR   30,76EUR   30,76EUR   ZWROT ZAKUPU   TRANSGLOBAL EXPRES
Also this is refund...

It seems like my card has problems only after I got REFUND from company, I got 3 refunds... and now it is blocked, BUT status is Active.

May be someone know what happen? Should I call to Mbank, or is it something like a bug from bank and I need to wait a few days, after that it starts work? Or what? Is my card blocked? if it is so, what to do? why?
I have bought a few tickets for September, and now I am worried, could it be so, if my card blocked, can airline company block my airline ticket?

Who can explain what happen?

[Shibby01]

it is blocked, BUT status is Active.

I have the same problem.
Do the banks have an internal blacklist which blocks cards even if the status is active?

mateo?
Any experiences?
btw  you've got mail.

[confirmation120]

today i just check my "history of operations" on mbank eu card and i saw



afaik is the paypal verification stuff
is not mine, wtf is this? someone has guessed my card data?

It seems someone is trying to verify a PayPal account with your card. You only need card number, expiry and CVV for that, with these cards. Have you showed the card to anyone, or payed on a site that is not entirely trustful?

no i don't

It looks like there may be some kind of leek regarding the card info.

[ranochigo]

today i just check my "history of operations" on mbank eu card and i saw



afaik is the paypal verification stuff
is not mine, wtf is this? someone has guessed my card data?

It seems someone is trying to verify a PayPal account with your card. You only need card number, expiry and CVV for that, with these cards. Have you showed the card to anyone, or payed on a site that is not entirely trustful?

no i don't

It looks like there may be some kind of leek regarding the card info.

My experience is that if you buy something online, even if it doesn't go through, PayPal will still charge you 1EUR. It can be your number is exposed to a hacker. The 1EUR does not only apply to verification.

[monbux]

I've sent you a PM

[AlexMass]

ok. I will try to call to Mbank tomorrow, but anybody...who has blocked card?
What is your status? blocked or Active? how can I know is it blocked or ?

now really want to get my money back)))

[ranochigo]

ok. I will try to call to Mbank tomorrow, but anybody...who has blocked card?
What is your status? blocked or Active? how can I know is it blocked or ?

now really want to get my money back)))

Have you reached your limit for yearly or daily spending? The sentence BLOKADA: ZAKUP PRZY UŻYCIU KARTY  means that funds are reserved for payments. They will be cleared within days. This is totally normal. You may have reached the limit for transfers for that time period.

[AlexMass]

I think it happened only because I asked logistics company for refund... and bank decided to hold my card for a few days... I hope so... I really hope, that I have not blocked my card

My limit for today:
Total credits in calendar year: 2 078,92 EUR

so I think I have 500 EUR more to spend.

May be there are limits for month too?

Also I never saw something like that: KOREKTA SALDA - OBCIĄŻENIE
It was made by BANK

[AlexMass]

mateo, in your practice, you should have blocked cards, may be not your, but... did you see how can I understand is it blocked or not? what was the status? Active? Blocked? Hold?

Even if card is blocked, as I saw in rules, you can give another acc.number and they will transfer money from your card... is it right?

If card is blocked, what do they ask you to do? send documents or what?

[Shibby01]

ok. I will try to call to Mbank tomorrow, but anybody...who has blocked card?
What is your status? blocked or Active? how can I know is it blocked or ?

now really want to get my money back)))

I have a card which is shown as active in the online panel but withdrawel is refused.
I tried to withdraw 100,- and 50,- Euro but the different atms said "Amount too high" or "Service unavailable" or "card invalid. please contact your bank."  :-/

Please post tomorrow what the bank told you...

[AppleKuchenX8]

It seems there's at least 5 people now having problems with cards like that. I've just checked the cards that I use, they still work. mBank started blocking cards for other sellers 2 weeks ago due to suspicious activity (namely instantvcc), but they spared us, because we had some connections to the bank. But mBank is now opposed to the idea of people reselling their cards, which is a new thing.

KOREKTA SALDA - OBCIĄŻENIE - balance correction, usually that happens when incorrect fees were charged on your card some time ago or maybe some transaction got canceled.

I am a bit scared of using the card now lol. Does this apply to both card types or just the VISA WK cards ?

[Deviant1]

Mateo is a PERFECT seller - received my order exactly as he described with blazing fast shipping. Recommended!!

[count7]

Someone call to mbank? Cards still blocked?

[ReBoRn]

Someone call to mbank? Cards still blocked?

If you call by yourself then I think its better talk them or send them email about your issue hope they will solve this

[BitcoinAccepted]

Mateo is one of the best sellers I have dealt with on here with fast response to questions and very quick delivery / processing.

He couldn't have been more helpful.

He is a reseller of these cards. If they stop working for any reason then your issue is with MBank and not with Mateo.

[williamj2543]

if these were reloadable by bitcoin, I would buy but sadly thats not the case. these are reloadable by paypal right?

[ranochigo]

if these were reloadable by bitcoin, I would buy but sadly thats not the case. these are reloadable by paypal right?

They are reloadable by SEPA transfer, international wire transfer. You can easily go to any exchange and exchange the bitcoin to the currency then withdraw it. You can also reload by PayPal.

[sanos51ck]

I'm not a mateo customer because I bought the cards before I knew this forum and my card is also not working.

The status is also active. It happened this week.

Can't think of a reason.

I'm doing the same things I did since I get the cards about one and a half year ago.

Last year I maxed out the cards without any issue. I never had to call them.

I called them for the first time and they asked name and address of registration right away. They refused to give any generic information about the cards.

As I registered with bogus information I couldn't tell them right away.

I saved the registration info and I already found it so I'll give it another try.

Any advice?

Mbank clearly changed their policies. Be careful with these cards.

[MrPiggles]

I've used 20 of these cards with zero issues, I dunno what they're blocking them for but I use them for travelling as they don't get frozen like normal cards when you move around a lot.

[sanos51ck]

I've used 20 of these cards with zero issues, I dunno what they're blocking them for but I use them for travelling as they don't get frozen like normal cards when you move around a lot.

I also used a few with zero issues. Until now.

[sanos51ck]

All my MBank cards registered or not with 2 different dates stopped working!!!
WTF mateo?!?

It's not mateo's fault that mBank begin locking cards for no reason.

Recently i bought couple cards from mateo. I noticed, that all my cards have been ordered to the same address in Poland and that's not good. If bank receives fraud/scam report about card, they will lock all cards sent to that address.

I didn't know that there is problems with cards, i was waiting for couple of transfers(1700 EUR, 1800 EUR, 400 EUR), but it looks like they will never arrive in to account(SEPA usually takes no more than 2 business days, now this is fourth day). At least i hope they will return money back to sender.

I still received transfers after the cards stopped working.

Is there problems only with mBank or with WBK also? I have only mBank cards. Searching for alternatives.

According to mateo BZ was still locking cards before mBank did.

I only used 2 or 3 BZ cards before I knew mBank cards and never had problems.

We have to wait and see if it was just a locking spree. If this is permanent mBank cards can't be trusted anymore.

 

[Sasayo]

Card blocked. no fraud . mateo maybe you call mbank and check out what the hell is going on and how to unblock the cards

[sionsandman]

Card blocked here too 

[sionsandman]

All my MBank cards registered or not with 2 different dates stopped working!!!
WTF mateo?!?

It's not mateo's fault that mBank begin locking cards for no reason.

So why is he not addressing the issue and hiding?
I bought the cards from him and now i would like some support.

I'm not his bodyguard or anything but:

Currently I am in a middle of something very important (not related to these cards), which is why some of the answers to peoples' questions are getting delayed. I normally answer people in 4-6 hours on average, now it's gone down to almost a full day recently. I apologize for this and hope to go back to normal as soon as possible.

Let the guy have a life too.

-----------

Anyone having problems with BZ cards too?

I forgot to mention that my card with problems is from mBank.

[hgerson]

Can we at least give them an IBAN to transfer the locked funds?

Without actually flying to Poland?

This sucks!!

I hope mbank loses all its customers!

[sionsandman]

Can we at least give them an IBAN to transfer the locked funds?

Without actually flying to Poland?

I also want to know this.

 

[PeddingtonEsq]

Sounds like this guy is a verified seller, but can anyone show recent proof (picture) of transactions with these cards or a purchase made with them. hearing a lot of good things about this but cant be 100% sure its the real deal.

[MrPiggles]

Sounds like this guy is a verified seller, but can anyone show recent proof (picture) of transactions with these cards or a purchase made with them. hearing a lot of good things about this but cant be 100% sure its the real deal.

25 page thread, youre the one who needs positive feedback not mateo

[PeddingtonEsq]

Sounds like this guy is a verified seller, but can anyone show recent proof (picture) of transactions with these cards or a purchase made with them. hearing a lot of good things about this but cant be 100% sure its the real deal.

25 page thread, youre the one who needs positive feedback not mateo

funny you say that MrPiggles because i read all 25 pages and NONE! had any substantial proof of these cards working or being active. A lot of vouches but not 1 proof of a purchase or transaction. yes its true that im new but that doesn't matter, what matters is ... is there proof or not? can you show proof vs try to talk down towards me

someone with proof please post. Thank you

[MrPiggles]

Sounds like this guy is a verified seller, but can anyone show recent proof (picture) of transactions with these cards or a purchase made with them. hearing a lot of good things about this but cant be 100% sure its the real deal.

25 page thread, youre the one who needs positive feedback not mateo

funny you say that MrPiggles because i read all 25 pages and NONE! had any substantial proof of these cards working or being active. A lot of vouches but not 1 proof of a purchase or transaction. yes its true that im new but that doesn't matter, what matters is ... is there proof or not? can you show proof vs try to talk down towards me

someone with proof please post. Thank you

noobie offering probably scam "cashout services" demanding proof from someone who's been sellin for how long? lol

[ranochigo]

Sounds like this guy is a verified seller, but can anyone show recent proof (picture) of transactions with these cards or a purchase made with them. hearing a lot of good things about this but cant be 100% sure its the real deal.

25 page thread, youre the one who needs positive feedback not mateo

funny you say that MrPiggles because i read all 25 pages and NONE! had any substantial proof of these cards working or being active. A lot of vouches but not 1 proof of a purchase or transaction. yes its true that im new but that doesn't matter, what matters is ... is there proof or not? can you show proof vs try to talk down towards me

someone with proof please post. Thank you

At the first page, there is a person who posted a image of the package. If you look through the thread, I assume you that you would be able to find a lot of positive feedbacks. Even looking at his trust, there are a lot of positive feedbacks. when in doubt, you can always use an escrow. There are cases of cards being blocked by the bank so you may want to reconsider buying them.

[sionsandman]

Anyone with an mBank card still working?

Did they block ALL the cards or just some batch(es)?

[conspirosphere.tk]

Anyone with an mBank card still working?

Did they block ALL the cards or just some batch(es)?

I've 3 loaded and still working

[sionsandman]

Anyone with an mBank card still working?

Did they block ALL the cards or just some batch(es)?

I've 3 loaded and still working

How do you load the cards?

Do you withdraw from ATMs?

Withdraw from paypal?

Do you do online purchases? Or buy at physical locations with pin?


Thanks

[conspirosphere.tk]

Anyone with an mBank card still working?

Did they block ALL the cards or just some batch(es)?

I've 3 loaded and still working

How do you load the cards?

Do you withdraw from ATMs?

Withdraw from paypal?

Do you do online purchases? Or buy at physical locations with pin?


Thanks

I've got them loaded by the same very trustable buyer on localbitcoins (be careful if you go trading there).
I withdrew from several ATMs and used them to buy stuff in person. No paypal and nothing online for the moment.

[hgerson]

Anyone with an mBank card still working?

Did they block ALL the cards or just some batch(es)?

I've 3 loaded and still working

How do you load the cards?

Do you withdraw from ATMs?

Withdraw from paypal?

Do you do online purchases? Or buy at physical locations with pin?


Thanks

I've got them loaded by the same very trustable buyer on localbitcoins (be careful if you go trading there).
I withdrew from several ATMs and used them to buy stuff in person. No paypal and nothing online for the moment.

The pattern is very similar to mine except that my card was loaded by different sellers.

Locked...

Can we at least give them an IBAN to transfer the locked funds?

Without actually flying to Poland?

This sucks!!

I hope mbank loses all its customers!

This would be very sweet...

Mateo, please convince the bank...

[Opardon]

Please check the thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.0

[slinger69]

Anybody had any luck contacting Mbank concerning these blocks?
I wasted 30 GBP in phonecalls trying to get through to the relevant department just to keep on getting passed around and for them to constantly tell me to come into the bank in Poland (which obviously I cant).

Anyone have any ideas??

I didnt buy my cards from Matteo. I brought mine from instantvcc.eu, who had all of their cards mass blocked.

[hgerson]

Anybody had any luck contacting Mbank concerning these blocks?
I wasted 30 GBP in phonecalls trying to get through to the relevant department just to keep on getting passed around and for them to constantly tell me to come into the bank in Poland (which obviously I cant).

Anyone have any ideas??

I didnt buy my cards from Matteo. I brought mine from instantvcc.eu, who had all of their cards mass blocked.

Check this thread:

Please check the thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.0

[Satoxi]

[/quote]

I've got them loaded by the same very trustable buyer on localbitcoins (be careful if you go trading there).
I withdrew from several ATMs and used them to buy stuff in person. No paypal and nothing online for the moment.
[/quote]


may i know who is the localbitcoins buyer¿

[conspirosphere.tk]

may i know who is the localbitcoins buyer¿

no, except that he's been trading there more than 1 year and he has >1 thousand transactions with positive references only.
I guess that any profile like this should be decently safe.

[jbettis]

I have a card purchased last nov 2013.

I have yet to use it.

I was able to login today and see my account. nothing was blocked. but I have yet to process any transactions.

[sionsandman]

I have a card purchased last nov 2013.

I have yet to use it.

I was able to login today and see my account. nothing was blocked. but I have yet to process any transactions.

My card status is still active.

But it's blocked!

[AlexMass]

The same situation.

1 old card blocked, got money only from xmlgold - they send money ONLY from POLAND banks.

2 new cards - blocked: received money from my own Bank account and from my friend account. nothing more... Also blocked.

Card's status: active. They can receive money, but you can not spend it, so they freeze there.
If bank would like to help me, I am going to go to Poland in October-November. I think nothing happen with money till then, but may be there it would be a problem to unfreeze 3 cards... I do not know what to do now.
I contacted with the bank, they told me the same thing: come to branch in Poland.

So I think these cards now all dead: not anonymous any more

[chufchuf]

The same situation.

1 old card blocked, got money only from xmlgold - they send money ONLY from POLAND banks.

2 new cards - blocked: received money from my own Bank account and from my friend account. nothing more... Also blocked.

Card's status: active. They can receive money, but you can not spend it, so they freeze there.
If bank would like to help me, I am going to go to Poland in October-November. I think nothing happen with money till then, but may be there it would be a problem to unfreeze 3 cards... I do not know what to do now.
I contacted with the bank, they told me the same thing: come to branch in Poland.

So I think these cards now all dead: not anonymous any more

Why don't you ask your friend to issue a chargeback? You pretty much have to comply with them with SEPA.

[der_markus]

Is VISA MB or VISA WK from mbank?

I guess VISA MB, but in the first post is mentioned that VISA WK has problems!?

[dzanuv]

Is VISA MB or VISA WK from mbank?

I guess VISA MB, but in the first post is mentioned that VISA WK has problems!?

The problems are with mbank cards (visa mb).

The same situation.

1 old card blocked, got money only from xmlgold - they send money ONLY from POLAND banks.

2 new cards - blocked: received money from my own Bank account and from my friend account. nothing more... Also blocked.

Card's status: active. They can receive money, but you can not spend it, so they freeze there.
If bank would like to help me, I am going to go to Poland in October-November. I think nothing happen with money till then, but may be there it would be a problem to unfreeze 3 cards... I do not know what to do now.
I contacted with the bank, they told me the same thing: come to branch in Poland.

So I think these cards now all dead: not anonymous any more

Why don't you ask your friend to issue a chargeback? You pretty much have to comply with them with SEPA.

To my knowledge chargebacks are for credit card transactions and not to bank transfers.

[giantblckdld]

Is VISA MB or VISA WK from mbank?
I guess VISA MB, but in the first post is mentioned that VISA WK has problems!?

VISA WK used to be the only one that could be blocked.
Now there is a massive blocking of VISA MB because some people abused the system.
I recently ordered about 20 VISA MB cards and I still haven't used one of them because I don't want to have my money blocked.
I'll wait for mBank to stop blocking arbitrary.


mateo, are the VISA MB PLN getting blocked too or just the VISA MB EUR ?

[sionsandman]

Is VISA MB or VISA WK from mbank?
I guess VISA MB, but in the first post is mentioned that VISA WK has problems!?

VISA WK used to be the only one that could be blocked.
Now there is a massive blocking of VISA MB because some people abused the system.
I recently ordered about 20 VISA MB cards and I still haven't used one of them because I don't want to have my money blocked.
I'll wait for mBank to stop blocking arbitrary.


mateo, are the VISA MB PLN getting blocked too or just the VISA MB EUR ?

mBank is scamming people! Forget the abuses theory.

They are deliberately keeping money from people outside Poland because they know that most people won't fly to Poland just to visit their branches.

They are scammers! End of story!

[conspirosphere.tk]

They are deliberately keeping money from people outside Poland because they know that most people won't fly to Poland just to visit their branches.

They are scammers! End of story!

I think so: one of my VISA MB EUR cards has just been blocked (the one with more than 500 euros in it. The others are with their credit already spent almost completely and I was on the point of reloading them, but at this point I don't think that is advisable to load them).

On the website it says:

Card status: Active

but a transaction has been just refused by a shop.

[edit]: mateo: can you do anything? / know something?

[MrPiggles]

the wzbank ones are still working, i have a few dozen working

[sionsandman]

[edit]: mateo: can you do anything? / know something?

Mateo has left the sinking ship. His last login was 5 days ago, his last post 8 days ago.

Maybe he's doing something to try to fix this but the lack of updates doesn't favor him.

[pd7]

I just received my card today, and plan to use it in the next month or 2, so I'll update with how it goes. As far as delivery and support, mateo helped with all my questions and delivery was quick and packaged well.

[jrk87]

same problem here.
Have 3 mBank EUR cards.
Status: active

I bought these cards on allegro.pl

Can't buy or withdraw on ATM
Can only receive money.


I called +48426780505 and they said that cards are blocked and i have to come to mBank branch for ID verification.

[conspirosphere.tk]

I called +48426780505 and they said that cards are blocked and i have to come to mBank branch for ID verification.

so this is the old scam already seen here of getting people's money no questions asked and then asking them to jump into any sort of hoops as a condition to giving it back.

[edit]

[sionsandman]

See this thread and contact every relavant person:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.new#new

[cameltoe]

Would this card work in Russia?

[mmkay]

Would this card work in Russia?

в бeлapycи нaлил бeз пpoблeм мecяцa 3 нaзaд

[company452]

I contacted Mateo on August, 3 and on the next day he provided me all required information about these cards and their using with Paypal. On August, 15 I sent him payment for my VISA MB PLN card (using bitcoins). On August, 17 Mateo told me that it would be safer if he just send me a card by regular (=paper) mail (I wanted card info by email + physical card). I asked him if he could send me only card info. On August, 21 Mateo respond to my email (it took him 5 days), and told me that he is no longer allowed to send cards digitally and asked for my post address (which I provided in the first letter to him, in case if he can only send regular letter with card). Ok, I told him that he can use my address from the first letter to send me the card. He told me that he would send me a message when card would be sent. And that was the last day I have received a letter from him (August 21). Hi didn't respond neither to my email from August, 23 nor to my email from August, 26.

25 pages with excellent feedbacks and I'm the first buyer, who is complaining. It's a shame.

Good news - I have verified my Paypal account and lift limits by using VCC from other seller (just for $20).

[hgerson]

25 pages with excellent feedbacks and I'm the first buyer, who is complaining. It's a shame.

mateo seemed like a good seller. It's a shame...

Good news - I have verified my Paypal account and lift limits by using VCC from other seller (just for $20).

Was it an US AVS-VCC?

If not it was expensive. You can get that for $10

[company452]

Was it an US AVS-VCC?

I don't know. He (or she?) just give me card details, I add this card to my Paypal account and that's all.

[sionsandman]

Was it an US AVS-VCC?

I don't know. He (or she?) just give me card details, I add this card to my Paypal account and that's all.

AVS - Address Verification System

AVS-VCCs are only required for US and UK accounts.

If your account is in another country you paid too much for the VCC. That's what he/she was saying and I agree.

[o3u]

Reading the last few  posts seems it's not a good idea to load these cards right now?

[Shibby01]

Reading the last few  posts seems it's not a good idea to load these cards right now?

According to my experiences (6 mb cards with 2000 Euro blocked - status active)
I wouldn't. Looks like the bank is fraudulent.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Reading the last few  posts seems it's not a good idea to load these cards right now?

According to my experiences (6 mb cards with 2000 Euro blocked - status active)
I wouldn't. Looks like the bank is fraudulent.

Was keeping track of this thread for a while, was curious how long they would work.
That said assuming its not politically related perhaps its time to open a Scam accusation thread?

Either that or this thread and its the bank at fault not the seller in this case
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.new#new

[barwizi]

I wouldn't be surprised if some idiot did something that was traced to mateo and he ended up in sh*t. for all we know he's in jail.

[rodeoclownicp]

are these the cards u got

http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

[conspirosphere.tk]

As for the bank, yeah, they're requiring full KYC compliance now to unblock the cards that have been blocked.

Could you please enquire how full KYC can be done without visiting them in person? That's a very unreasonable request, even since they asked nothing to get our money.
Alternatively how can the funds in blocked cards be recovered?
Best wishes for your recovery.

[bitfromit]

Welcome back to the reality of the legacy system. All they have to do is make is uneconomical to protest and there you have it. Basically the usual stealing under the guise of keeping us safe etc. Oh and, Hope you get well Mateo.

[AlexMass]

I think all what we need: somebody with Polish banks. We can send all money there and block cards.

[rodeoclownicp]

are these the cards u got

http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

Well, they're selling Mbank cards, too, yes (as well as WK cards). I never bought from them, but for all I know they're selling the same generic prepaid cards from mBank that are now having problems.

what does mbank mean?

[der_markus]

are these the cards u got

http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

Well, they're selling Mbank cards, too, yes (as well as WK cards). I never bought from them, but for all I know they're selling the same generic prepaid cards from mBank that are now having problems.

what does mbank mean?

http://www.mbank.pl/

[rodeoclownicp]

so what are the unblocked cards?

[ReBoRn]

so what are the unblocked cards?

Which cards are unblock they are still useable without any problem

[rodeoclownicp]

huh, which are the unblocked cards? which cards are not mbank?

[hgerson]

huh, which are the unblocked cards? which cards are not mbank?

Bank Zachodni WBK cards.

Some guys are also selling Pekao cards but I also listened that Pekao is not intended to be used outside Poland.

Other polish banks (or operating in Poland) should offer similar cards but I really can't tell.

As for the bank, yeah, they're requiring full KYC compliance now to unblock the cards that have been blocked.

Could you please enquire how full KYC can be done without visiting them in person? That's a very unreasonable request, even since they asked nothing to get our money.
Alternatively how can the funds in blocked cards be recovered?
Best wishes for your recovery.

That's the thing, they want people to come to the bank personally, even though at first they said, sending ID digitally would be enough. I don't know if they're under pressure to do so, or just want to steal people's money, because they themselves realize that this is not a reasonable request. I'm gonna be trying to find a way for people to at least get their money back, that's now stuck on the cards. I'll let people know on this thread if something comes up, but so far things don't look very promising.

@mateo
I hope you're fully recovered by now.

Read the other thread.

There are already people getting their money back.

If they can you should get it even faster for your buyers, don't you think?

I mean, IF you are already fully recovered as it seems to be the case! If you're not, take care of your health first!

[rodeoclownicp]

ok, so i have an mbank card on the way should i refuse it and get my money back? i asked the seller if i could connect it to paypal and they said of course. they said it was an anonymous card but kyc is the oposite of that? what should i do? it is the better of the two cards that are offered from mbank.... should i use a europian version of paypal?

like ok pay? even though i dont know what ok pay is? can somebody start a thread that really breaks this down. please. then pm me link

[sionsandman]

ok, so i have an mbank card on the way should i refuse it and get my money back? i asked the seller if i could connect it to paypal and they said of course. they said it was an anonymous card but kyc is the oposite of that? what should i do? it is the better of the two cards that are offered from mbank.... should i use a europian version of paypal?

like ok pay? even though i dont know what ok pay is? can somebody start a thread that really breaks this down. please. then pm me link

Yes, you should refuse it and get your money back because this card is useless now.

Buy a BZ card instead.

There's already a thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.0

Read it and draw your own conclusions.

[hgerson]

As for the bank, yeah, they're requiring full KYC compliance now to unblock the cards that have been blocked.

Could you please enquire how full KYC can be done without visiting them in person? That's a very unreasonable request, even since they asked nothing to get our money.
Alternatively how can the funds in blocked cards be recovered?
Best wishes for your recovery.

That's the thing, they want people to come to the bank personally, even though at first they said, sending ID digitally would be enough. I don't know if they're under pressure to do so, or just want to steal people's money, because they themselves realize that this is not a reasonable request. I'm gonna be trying to find a way for people to at least get their money back, that's now stuck on the cards. I'll let people know on this thread if something comes up, but so far things don't look very promising.

Any developments on your research?

[barwizi]

lOl, all 10 of mine work. the funds in them can be used, but i'm not going to chance sending more.

[DiabloRambo]

I bought 25cards + from Mateo..


Some works some does not..

unfortunately the cards with money is blocked. around 7+ cards, with minimum 300€++ , some cards with 700€..


I would really really appreciate some help here...

[Booooooo]

I bought 25cards + from Mateo..


Some works some does not..

unfortunately the cards with money is blocked. around 7+ cards, with minimum 300€++ , some cards with 700€..


I would really really appreciate some help here...

how have been cards locked funded? Is the "usage" related to the lock? Loading cards via bank wire and withdraw at ATM can be a issue? Or only paypal, skrill registration attempts?
In past I was used to use WBK and those were easy locked...while 0 problem so far with mBank (used about 20x in the last 1 year)...but now after read that I am running to cashout money to atm machine....

edit:
also is there a card currency more "prone" to get locked? Perhaps those different then PLN are more easy locked?

[DiabloRambo]

The reason is: Prepaid cards from Mbank is only created to USE IN POLAND.


Everytime they see a card used outside poland they block it..


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.new#new

[Booooooo]

The reason is: Prepaid cards from Mbank is only created to USE IN POLAND.


Everytime they see a card used outside poland they block it..


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.new#new

I have just cashout from ATM machine (not in Poland) from one of the about 15x EUR currency card I had in the past year.
All 15x cards were used in the same way: loaded via bank wire (sometimes a single card could have been loaded even from more then one source) and cashout at ATM machine (or RARELY pay at restaurants/hotels/shops) none in Poland.
Perhaps do I have bought from lucky seller?  By the way I am going to cashout completely hopefully I am still in time

[Coinfan]

The reason is: Prepaid cards from Mbank is only created to USE IN POLAND.


Everytime they see a card used outside poland they block it..


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.new#new

That explication doesn't explain why there are polish cards in euros, USDs and british pounds. These were clearly to be used out of Poland. At most, one could say the cards were to be used abroad by polish or polish residents, as they seem to have said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.msg8758459#msg8758459.

But it seems this is a new policy, because:
a) Their website to check cards have several languages.
b) As far as I can recall, their agreement says nothing about the cards being allowed only to residents.
c) To limit their financial services to polish citizens is a clear violation of European Law that demand equality between all european citizens.

And some cards that were only used abroad and were recharged using foreigner banking accounts are still working.

[sionsandman]

Guys they are just making shit up.

One day is one thing tomorrow is another.

[manicminer]

How do you load these cards in general? By IBAN, for sure. But how can you easiest load the bitcoins to the card? For example, Bitstamp can send funds directly to this card, or does it work like Bitstamp > bank account > card?

[ranochigo]

How do you load these cards in general? By IBAN, for sure. But how can you easiest load the bitcoins to the card? For example, Bitstamp can send funds directly to this card, or does it work like Bitstamp > bank account > card?

It is pretty much the same as how you send money to a bank account. You key in IBAN, Bank code, branch address and you can make up any name and address. Any exchange that is able to do SEPA or international bank wire can load the card. You can also look around the forum or localbitcoin to find people to load money for bitcoins. However, these cards are not working currently.

[hgerson]

The reason is: Prepaid cards from Mbank is only created to USE IN POLAND.


Everytime they see a card used outside poland they block it..


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.new#new

That explication doesn't explain why there are polish cards in euros, USDs and british pounds. These were clearly to be used out of Poland. At most, one could say the cards were to be used abroad by polish or polish residents, as they seem to have said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.msg8758459#msg8758459.

But it seems this is a new policy, because:
a) Their website to check cards have several languages.
b) As far as I can recall, their agreement says nothing about the cards being allowed only to residents.
c) To limit their financial services to polish citizens is a clear violation of European Law that demand equality between all european citizens.

And some cards that were only used abroad and were recharged using foreigner banking accounts are still working.

They are just making excuses to keep some money.

There was never a policy for use only in Poland or by Polish citizens only.

They say that because they can't block cards from polish users or their branches would be on fire right now.

Scammer users (polish or international) won't complain because they know they are scammers and it's pure profit for mBank.

[WoopDeBoop]

Mateo one of my cards has been blocked, what do I do?

Its a Zachodni one

[sanos51ck]

Mateo one of my cards has been blocked, what do I do?

Its a Zachodni one

Mateo was very promissing but he turned out a disappointment at all levels.

[CarolinaCaro]

Hello, what is the conclusion then?
I wanted to buy one of those prepaid cards. I'm going on holidays next month and don't want to take my proper credit card with me.
But I'm confused after reading this forum...

Should I buy it from Mateo?
Or from Podex?

Any advice?
I'll appreciate help.

[XoooX]

Hey i have some Questions:
- How can i pay the money out?
- Which would be the best card for me, i live in Germany and would to Send and Recive money?
- Can i recive Money like i recive it with an normal Bank Kart?

[Coinfan]

Forget about Mateo, I doubt he will show up again. This mess wasn't his fault, but it seems he just went away ("to an hospital").

There are three or four sellers selling these cards at the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0), but don't buy cards from Mbank, buy cards from Zachodni WBK bank. But WBK also freeze cards sometimes, especially if you abuse the withdrawals at an ATM. They like people that buy things with the cards, because their fees are higher and they suspect that people that only do withdrawals, taking out all money at once, are cleaning money.

By the way, you can get these cards much cheaper on other places. Look around.

These cards can't be use to send money, just to receive money by a regular SEPA transfer and pay things online and at shops.

[hgerson]

By the way, you can get these cards much cheaper on other places. Look around.

But it would be good to have some support when you need it.

If the seller can somehow avoid the mess we're having with mBank it's worth paying an extra.

[Coinfan]

I doubt any seller could do much. This member even went to Poland and asked for his money at a branch. They didn't give him his money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.msg8905377#msg8905377

Look in that thread, there is a list of emails on two or three posts. At least a member got his money back, by spamming those emails with complains, including regulators.

Or join with other members and hire a polish lawyer to threat Mbank with a class action. A simple threat will do, it won't be necessary to go to court, so cheaper fees of the lawyer.

[CarolinaCaro]

don't buy cards from Mbank, buy cards from Zachodni WBK bank

Thank you Coinfan for the advice. I've found this info though :
"Podex Card Silver cannot be shipped nor used in the following countries: Afghanistan, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burma, China, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Libya, Moldova, North Korea, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria,Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vietnam"
http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

I need the card for my trip to South-East Asia, so Zachodni WBK is no good for me.

The thing is - since I'm from Poland, I've decided to go to the source and ask at the bank. They told me I cannot buy cards from them, they sell it to companies only. I asked about the problems with blocked money and they told me it never happened... They said they might have blocked a few cards but only if they suspected a fraud. Just a few cases, nothing on a big scale...

Anyways, I've just remembered I have a friend whose husband works at mBank (old schoolmate). He is out of town at the moment, but will be back in a few days. I'll call him and ask about details.

[sanos51ck]

don't buy cards from Mbank, buy cards from Zachodni WBK bank

Thank you Coinfan for the advice. I've found this info though :
"Podex Card Silver cannot be shipped nor used in the following countries: Afghanistan, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burma, China, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Libya, Moldova, North Korea, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria,Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vietnam"
http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

I need the card for my trip to South-East Asia, so Zachodni WBK is no good for me.

The thing is - since I'm from Poland, I've decided to go to the source and ask at the bank. They told me I cannot buy cards from them, they sell it to companies only. I asked about the problems with blocked money and they told me it never happened... They said they might have blocked a few cards but only if they suspected a fraud. Just a few cases, nothing on a big scale...

Anyways, I've just remembered I have a friend whose husband works at mBank (old schoolmate). He is out of town at the moment, but will be back in a few days. I'll call him and ask about details.

All the help you can provide would be appreciated here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.160

Thanks

[thExit]

I doubt any seller could do much. This member even went to Poland and asked for his money at a branch. They didn't give him his money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.msg8905377#msg8905377

Look in that thread, there is a list of emails on two or three posts. At least a member got his money back, by spamming those emails with complains, including regulators.

Or join with other members and hire a polish lawyer to threat Mbank with a class action. A simple threat will do, it won't be necessary to go to court, so cheaper fees of the lawyer.

Hi,

along with another member of this forum, who is a Polish resident, we tried to help people with blocked cards. It's possible to go to a branch, if you're a Polish citizen, sign up your name to the card and get it unblocked. Not a problem. I've even arranged for several cards to be unblocked, it took me few visits to the bank, few long conversations with the bank officials. No problem, it's all doable.

What is not doable is cooperation with most of the people who got their cards blocked. I talked to several people (most of whom were newbie accounts), and somehow, all of them, stopped replying when I asked them for a full history of the card transactions. Transaction history is the same data as the bankers will be looking at, I'd prefer to know what's been going on with the card, it's still anonymous, so why did people get scared of my question? Why? Why are those people scared to show me the transaction history?

I'd like to look at the history of different cards to search for a common pattern that might be the reason for blocking. Also if I'm supposed to send sbd to the bank and risk their ass, then at least I'd like to know what is the risk involved. I can unblock approx. 20 cards according to my deal with the bank, if any of you are honest enough to reveal the transaction history (for my eyes only), then I can try and help. If you're not, then get a lawyer and see what you can do, but I guess that you can't do anything. The cards are meant for Polish residents, and yes, they are for travelling, so making payments abroad is their purpose.

I didn't read through this thread, I've got enough of my own stuff to do than try helping people that are not willing to cooperate, and that are potentially criminals. If you're an honest person then I can try and help, as long as you're willing to show me the transaction history.

If there is any other way I can help, then you can PM me. I hope that for all the honest people, the case will get resolved.

Kind regards,
Piotr

[Coinfan]

don't buy cards from Mbank, buy cards from Zachodni WBK bank

Thank you Coinfan for the advice. I've found this info though :
"Podex Card Silver cannot be shipped nor used in the following countries: Afghanistan, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burma, China, Colombia, Cuba, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Libya, Moldova, North Korea, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria,Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vietnam"
http://www.second-card.com/?page_id=198

I need the card for my trip to South-East Asia, so Zachodni WBK is no good for me.

The thing is - since I'm from Poland, I've decided to go to the source and ask at the bank. They told me I cannot buy cards from them, they sell it to companies only. I asked about the problems with blocked money and they told me it never happened... They said they might have blocked a few cards but only if they suspected a fraud. Just a few cases, nothing on a big scale...

Anyways, I've just remembered I have a friend whose husband works at mBank (old schoolmate). He is out of town at the moment, but will be back in a few days. I'll call him and ask about details.

Yes, Zachodni WBK doesn't block cards as Mbank did (massive blocking), but better also be careful and avoid sending too much money on each transfer. Send, spend, send again.

You can buy Zachodni WBK cards from them directly at www.allegro.pl . Some members that prefer to avoid giving their address to the bank will still have to buy from other sellers. Beside, I'm not shore that Zachodni WBK sends the cards to other countries even using allegro.

[malevolent]

You can buy Zachodni WBK cards from them directly at www.allegro.pl . Some members that prefer to avoid giving their address to the bank will still have to buy from other sellers. Beside, I'm not shore sure that Zachodni WBK sends the cards to other countries even using allegro.

You are correct - they don't.

http://allegro.pl/karta-prepaid-paypass-bz-wbk-rabat-w-300-sklepach-i4588207649.html

Nie zgadzam się na wysłanie przedmiotu za granicę

(no shipping abroad)

There's also a maximum 9 card limit per purchase, you'll need to visit one of their branches in person if you'd like to buy more.

[bernard75]

Thx for the explaining, that would take me months as an involved person.

There's also a maximum 9 card limit per purchase, you'll need to visit one of their branches in person if you'd like to buy more.

Its even not that simple to get 1 card as a foreigner walking into a Polish bank.
Above all you have to reveal your identity and other things depending on the bank.
Let alone getting more than 9.
This means you have to prove you own a legitimate business like ANX or XAPO tried.
Companies get different conditions than those bought in small quantities.
Unfortuntately most of the cards sold here are acquired not through the proper channels or are not respecting/understanding the agreement.

I dont even blame people for trying to make a quick buck, but because of that regulations might get tighter and tighter.

[WoopDeBoop]

Zachodni blocked one of my cards.

I loaded it 3 times. One time by bank transfer, 2x by WU. On the third load it was blocked. A total of around $500 I think.

Can't access it at all

[Anduck]

People should probably stop selling these cards as it seems they're all starting to get blocked.....

[Booooooo]

Zachodni blocked one of my cards.

I loaded it 3 times. One time by bank transfer, 2x by WU. On the third load it was blocked. A total of around $500 I think.

Can't access it at all

during these transactions have you kept the same or changed the money beneficiary name?

[bernard75]

And above all why did you register it?

[Syntax12]

nice threas guys

[aly7358]

still sell cards?

[aly7358]

Code: VISA WK USD
Check balance/transaction history/change PIN online: free of charge (requires card registration)

what's meaning of (requires card registration)  ?

[thExit]

Code: VISA WK USD
Check balance/transaction history/change PIN online: free of charge (requires card registration)

what's meaning of (requires card registration)  ?

This means that you need to register the card online.

[duffmary]

Hi,

I am potentially interested in buying a EUR VISA WK EUR card.

Being in another EU Country, I will need to open a Polish paypal account to load funds to my card. I noted however that Paypal Poland will require me to verify my account. Will I be required to provide paypal with a SSN and Polish address? Or are these details needed by the Polish card issuer, to enable me to login through their online panel?

Are these cards issues by anondebitcard?

Can anyone provide feedback regarding the anondebitcard?

Thank you.

I am essentially eager to have a prepaid debit card on which I can load fund from paypal, or from another provider like Stripe, Skrill etc.

[byaale]

Hi, anyone knows if aly7358 still sell cards??

Thank you

[giantblckdld]

 
This is strange. I bought a mbank card long ago and I'm still able to withdraw.
The card never had more than 450€ though.
Also I filled fake informations on the mbank account website.

Would it be possible that the card get blocked depending on the amount you top-up ?
Would it be possible that the card get blocked depending on the amount you withdraw ?
Would it be possible that filling crap infos on the mbank account help not getting blocked ?

Anyone else still able to use the card ?

[Booooooo]

This is strange. I bought a mbank card long ago and I'm still able to withdraw.
The card never had more than 450€ though.
Also I filled fake informations on the mbank account website.

Would it be possible that the card get blocked depending on the amount you top-up ?
Would it be possible that the card get blocked depending on the amount you withdraw ?
Would it be possible that filling crap infos on the mbank account help not getting blocked ?

Anyone else still able to use the card ?

all my friend about 25x cards working (or supposed to work could not check all cards, most now are empty but last card of the "group" working today too). But he is afraid now to use too, I think no one can say something for sure

[byaale]

matteo do not answer my emails

Anyone can help me??? I really need one card asap.


Thank you very much 

[dzanuv]

matteo do not answer my emails

Anyone can help me??? I really need one card asap.


Thank you very much 

If you need cards you should buy somewhere else and only BZ WBK cards.

mateo is out of business.

[CarolinaCaro]

Hi, sorry it took me so long but I couldn’t get hold of my friend (the one who works at mBank).
Finally met him though and this is what he said (all absolutely unofficial!):

When mBank and WBK started selling their prepaid cards, anyone could buy them. Obviously, because of the nature of the cards, lots of dishonest people showed up.
Problems started when those people decided to resell the cards.
Some of those guys were coping card’s numbers, selling the card to someone online and then clearing their accounts.
There were so many fraud complaints that the bank started blocking majority of cards purchased by individual people (not companies) who bought more than 10 cards. Just in case…
Eventually they changed their term of service and now you cannot buy the card if you don’t have an officially registered business. This way they can keep track of who is responsible for the security of the card. It seems to work, so WBK is just about to do the same.

My friend does not have access to the customer’s database, so he couldn’t tell me which companies are their resellers. But he said that as long as you can check that the company really exist, it will be fine.

I can’t really find anyone but Podex at the moment. But they seem like a registered company, they give the address, they made a professional ad clip and stuff: www.second-card.com. Should be reliable, right?

[brenda01]

Do the BZ WBK Matercards are better then VISA cards? It's any difference?

[brenda01]

And what about the Mbank prepaid Mastercards?

[elcappo]

Hi my friend i bought a visa electron USD card from Mateo i just do 3 transaction for total amount of 300 dollar in 6 month or more and this time the 4 time i send 70 usd to the card by sepa bank transfer and the card is blocked i try to contact the bank  and they say me that they can't have me back the money who can help me to unblock my card and have my money back ..?

[colinrbox]

i purchased 10 of these cards to add to my paypal accounts, after 180 days i was able to withdraw money to the cards... everything went well until i tried to withdraw the money at an ATM in UK

i get error message saying the service is unavailable, so i tried to make a purchse with the cards online and i get error message purchase declined.

so although the cards have money loaded i cannot access it

is there something i should know? i tried reading the letter which came with the card but it is all in polish.

please can you help.

[Booooooo]

    
you are in the same situation of almost all people have purchased from "sellers" and not directly from bank (all sellers's cards seems afflicted first or later)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.new;topicseen#new

[BawsyBoss]

Did Mateo abandon this completely?

[sanos51ck]

Did Mateo abandon this completely?

Probably he has a new account and started from scratch.

[elcappo]

the problem that the zachodni bank who gives him this card so why after a while she block them it mean that the zachodni bank is a big scammer bank who use people for advertising this anonymous reladable visa card and they sell it and ship it everywhere in the world and after some few transaction the card will be blocked and they take all the money on it there is many people who was victim it mean that zachodni bank its a fake bank her customer service don't answer anything just gives you them number and they say call it for unblock the card when  you try to unblock it they will ask about your phone number and it must be polish number or they don't unblock you the card so if there is some polish people or some one who live in poland and got a phone number pleas pleas pm me i need help to unblock the card !

[ranochigo]

the problem that the zachodni bank who gives him this card so why after a while she block them it mean that the zachodni bank is a big scammer bank who use people for advertising this anonymous reladable visa card and they sell it and ship it everywhere in the world and after some few transaction the card will be blocked and they take all the money on it there is many people who was victim it mean that zachodni bank its a fake bank her customer service don't answer anything just gives you them number and they say call it for unblock the card when  you try to unblock it they will ask about your phone number and it must be polish number or they don't unblock you the card so if there is some polish people or some one who live in poland and got a phone number pleas pleas pm me i need help to unblock the card !

The blocked cards are Mbank cards. For WBK cards, they are known to be blocked due to double withdrawing before and after midnight. MBank cards were mass blocked for unknown reasons. WBK have changed their policy and disallow transactions involving Bitcoins.

[sudexx]

The blocked cards are Mbank cards. For WBK cards, they are known to be blocked due to double withdrawing before and after midnight. MBank cards were mass blocked for unknown reasons. WBK have changed their policy and disallow transactions involving Bitcoins.

wbk also blocked a lot of countries.

[elcappo]

they can block the account but the return back our money it mean that they are thiefs those compagny because the card is from them and the account in them bank zachodni scammer and thiefs who can help me to have an account with polish name and phone number ..?

[darrenbristol]

hi, i would like to buy one of these cards, could you send me a pm, thanks

[Joca]

Dear all,

i am newbie but i have read all the threads about the mb and wbk.
Obviously out of question to buy MB card.
But i have no sureness about the WBK.
Have you got reliable info if WBK blocks cards? Are they trustful?
I am out of Poland.

Cheers,

Joca

[shlep]

will coin exchanges like coinbase be able to cash out to its IBAN?

[ranochigo]

will coin exchanges like coinbase be able to cash out to its IBAN?

AFAIK, coinbase only cashes out to US bank account, a US credit card and bank account is required. Use kraken or bitstamp if you want to cashout your BTC. Also, WK bank doesn't allow deposits that have connection with bitcoins and mbank seems to be blocking lots of cards.

[rodeoclownicp]

will coin exchanges like coinbase be able to cash out to its IBAN?

only the same way that all banks do-which is not in the spirit of btc. does anybody know how to load these cards. not paypal. not wire transfer, not circle or virw or coinbase or btc-e..thats all bs.

[sanos51ck]

Hi,

along with another member of this forum, who is a Polish resident, we tried to help people with blocked cards. It's possible to go to a branch, if you're a Polish citizen, sign up your name to the card and get it unblocked. Not a problem. I've even arranged for several cards to be unblocked, it took me few visits to the bank, few long conversations with the bank officials. No problem, it's all doable.

What is not doable is cooperation with most of the people who got their cards blocked. I talked to several people (most of whom were newbie accounts), and somehow, all of them, stopped replying when I asked them for a full history of the card transactions. Transaction history is the same data as the bankers will be looking at, I'd prefer to know what's been going on with the card, it's still anonymous, so why did people get scared of my question? Why? Why are those people scared to show me the transaction history?

I'd like to look at the history of different cards to search for a common pattern that might be the reason for blocking. Also if I'm supposed to send sbd to the bank and risk their ass, then at least I'd like to know what is the risk involved. I can unblock approx. 20 cards according to my deal with the bank, if any of you are honest enough to reveal the transaction history (for my eyes only), then I can try and help. If you're not, then get a lawyer and see what you can do, but I guess that you can't do anything. The cards are meant for Polish residents, and yes, they are for travelling, so making payments abroad is their purpose.

I didn't read through this thread, I've got enough of my own stuff to do than try helping people that are not willing to cooperate, and that are potentially criminals. If you're an honest person then I can try and help, as long as you're willing to show me the transaction history.

If there is any other way I can help, then you can PM me. I hope that for all the honest people, the case will get resolved.

Kind regards,
Piotr

Hi Piotr

Are you still offering this service?

Have you been successful unlocking more cards?

thexit saw my card history and said he'll be able to help.

I'll send my card to him and see what happens.

Is your card unlocked?

anybody that can offer help recovering funds upon compensation?  PM

Please pm me too or post here.

Did you find anyone else unlocking mbank cards?

[Coinfan]

Forget about buying Mbank cards. If you are not polish, you will end up with your card blocked even if you never done anything remotely illegal. It will be enough to log in on their system with a foreigner IP and doing all the withdrawals and shopping outside Poland.

Be aware that even Zachodni WBK changed their TOS. Paragraph 13 now says that any use of the card in connection with virtual money (and they explicitly mention Bitcoin) will get your card blocked. It seems that known exchanges like Bitstamp, Btc-e and Kraken are already black-listed and withdrawing from them will get your card blocked.

[Biznesmen]

Forget about buying Mbank cards. If you are not polish, you will end up with your card blocked even if you never done anything remotely illegal. It will be enough to log in on their system with a foreigner IP and doing all the withdrawals and shopping outside Poland.

Be aware that even Zachodni WBK changed their TOS. Paragraph 13 now says that any use of the card in connection with virtual money (and they explicitly mention Bitcoin) will get your card blocked. It seems that known exchanges like Bitstamp, Btc-e and Kraken are already black-listed and withdrawing from them will get your card blocked.

Well said, that's why I stay away from mBank - I don't want to put my Customers into risk of losing the money.

That's true WBK blocked some countries, but mainly only some of the 3rd world (you can find exactly which ones in my thread).

True, WBK doesn't allow virtual currencies anymore but I know some of exchanges that are still working (not blacklisted). I've tested them by myself several times and they haven't blocked the card.

Also, it seems that Paypal has banned mBank cards, while WBK cards are working great (at least PLN cards). Currently I'm testing other currencies.

Kind Regards,
Biznesmen

[mimimi7]

I need a reloadable prepaid card to withdraw money from my paypal ..

[iram66680]

I need a reloadable prepaid card to withdraw money from my paypal ..

I like to know this as well. I like to use it on my stealth paypal.

[luka1987]

I need card to connect on paypal and withdraw it from paypal.. thanks

[ranochigo]

I need a reloadable prepaid card to withdraw money from my paypal ..

I like to know this as well. I like to use it on my stealth paypal.

OP is no longer selling cards and Mbank has suspended the cards. You can use the IBan to verify paypal, it would work just fine. However, WBK cards are banned for Bitcoin related transactions, I am not sure if there are any prepaid cards available for this purpose.

[soixantedix]

the problem that the zachodni bank who gives him this card so why after a while she block them it mean that the zachodni bank is a big scammer bank who use people for advertising this anonymous reladable visa card and they sell it and ship it everywhere in the world and after some few transaction the card will be blocked and they take all the money on it there is many people who was victim it mean that zachodni bank its a fake bank her customer service don't answer anything just gives you them number and they say call it for unblock the card when  you try to unblock it they will ask about your phone number and it must be polish number or they don't unblock you the card so if there is some polish people or some one who live in poland and got a phone number pleas pleas pm me i need help to unblock the card !

do you still need polish phone number?
i can help with polish sim cards as well

[Rajp99]

hello, mateo i pm u but i didnt got reply,plz reply i am intrested!

[yomo]

Im interested
How do i place an order ?
Could anyone top this card up ?

[dert]

PM me

[Biznesmen]

PM me

PMed.

[atom80]

Some people just wont learn ...
These cards are being blocked left and right by Polish banks.
It doesn't matter if they are sold by seller A or B
What matters is that some people that buy them will use them to either commit fraud or siphon stolen funds and then the bank will block the entire batch of cards.

Buy them and put your fund there at your own risk ...

[Biznesmen]

Some people just wont learn ...
These cards are being blocked left and right by Polish banks.
It doesn't matter if they are sold by seller A or B
What matters is that some people that buy them will use them to either commit fraud or siphon stolen funds and then the bank will block the entire batch of cards.

Buy them and put your fund there at your own risk ...

mBank has done that one time or twice, I mean chain blocking, that's why I've never been selling those.

My cards are from BZWBK, I've also never heard of anyone experiencing group blocking.

[EfterlysT]

I have cards from BZWBK and i got several cards blocked. They have been totally jerks and i have given up on the money stuck at their shitty bank.
I have been sending them everything they asked for, like verifying myself but in the end they just say that it is not enough. They just want to keep my money and fuck crypto a bit.

Stay out of that bank is my advice.

[sarcazzo]

Pardon my ignorance, but how can those bank block entire batches of card if they don't know who the card owners are? Wouldn't they supposed just to block the card on which the illegal/shady activity happened?

[dragon1245]

hi, can anyone help me get money off one of these blocked cards
mine was blocked a long time ago but i lost no money, but now amazon sent me a refund to it and i can't get it off

here's a part of the transaction history, i can show the rest to anyone who needs it to help - https://i.imgur.com/aC9n4Z3.png

[dragon1245]

hi, can anyone help me get money off one of these blocked cards
mine was blocked a long time ago but i lost no money, but now amazon sent me a refund to it and i can't get it off

here's a part of the transaction history, i can show the rest to anyone who needs it to help - https://i.imgur.com/aC9n4Z3.png

bump, rewards is half the funds on the card

[atom80]

hi, can anyone help me get money off one of these blocked cards
mine was blocked a long time ago but i lost no money, but now amazon sent me a refund to it and i can't get it off

here's a part of the transaction history, i can show the rest to anyone who needs it to help - https://i.imgur.com/aC9n4Z3.png

bump, rewards is half the funds on the card

Check this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.0

I explain there how to recover funds in mbank cards

[sluskharen]

Hi.
I'm interested in buying lots of these cards. Anyone here still selling them?
cheers

[EurGold]

Is it possible to get a card with a higher yearly limit?

[tommorka]

Half a year ago I was trying to withdraw money from an ATM
but accidentally I entered three times the wrong PIN and the card is blocked.
I contacted anondebitcard.com and they asked them to send the card back and said to unblock the card.
I sent them a card and has passed more than half the time and no results.
Support not answer and ignore my outgoing emails.
very, very poor support, I would say it is a scam.

other case
Two months ago I bought to you another card.
Now today I have the card 321eur when I try to withdraw money
from an ATM and ATM me write error message "No Transaction" (no money)
I would say it is a scam.

[HarryKPeters]

Some people just wont learn ...
These cards are being blocked left and right by Polish banks.
It doesn't matter if they are sold by seller A or B
What matters is that some people that buy them will use them to either commit fraud or siphon stolen funds and then the bank will block the entire batch of cards.

Buy them and put your fund there at your own risk ...

Thank you. I was interested in it. But some sellers are scamming others seems legit but then the service itself seems bogus.

I hope a legit service will come out some day.

[superresistant]

Is this still available?

I don't think so.

[MikeXX]

Try QCK Card. Better and comes for free.

[Hhampuz]

Try QCK Card. Better and comes for free.

Got a link?

[MikeXX]

qckcard.com

[Arrakeen]

These QCK cards - how exactly are deposited bitcoins exchanged into usable credit/debit? from which index are prices checked?

Is that how this works? You buy a card, deposit bitcoin into its account, then you're able to use the card anywhere that accepts debit/credit/visa/master/etc?

[eljotas]

QCK card doesn't work well. Yes you receive payments, but card is not compatible with atm machines, i tried many different atm machines and it looks like card size is compatible or card is absolutely fake, because atm machine doesn't enter this card.
Also i tried another way - to buy online. Also payment is declined.

108 EUR is wasted.

[charlesUK]

QCK card doesn't work well. Yes you receive payments, but card is not compatible with atm machines, i tried many different atm machines and it looks like card size is compatible or card is absolutely fake, because atm machine doesn't enter this card.
Also i tried another way - to buy online. Also payment is declined.

108 EUR is wasted.

You aren't right! I use two of these QCK cards about 6 months and both work well. Do u contacted their support?

[eljotas]

QCK card doesn't work well. Yes you receive payments, but card is not compatible with atm machines, i tried many different atm machines and it looks like card size is compatible or card is absolutely fake, because atm machine doesn't enter this card.
Also i tried another way - to buy online. Also payment is declined.

108 EUR is wasted.

You aren't right! I use two of these QCK cards about 6 months and both work well. Do u contacted their support?

Yes I contacted many times and you're scammer! Yes YOU! And you can stick these cards to your as*, OK?

[Booooooo]

QCK card doesn't work well. Yes you receive payments, but card is not compatible with atm machines, i tried many different atm machines and it looks like card size is compatible or card is absolutely fake, because atm machine doesn't enter this card.
Also i tried another way - to buy online. Also payment is declined.

108 EUR is wasted.

You aren't right! I use two of these QCK cards about 6 months and both work well. Do u contacted their support?

Yes I contacted many times and you're scammer! Yes YOU! And you can stick these cards to your as*, OK?

and you've loaded the card without notice that was different form that can't enter an ATM machine?
And you believe they put on this company to perform this kind of "once" scam and run with money? (I believe money are still there, no?)

[eljotas]

QCK card doesn't work well. Yes you receive payments, but card is not compatible with atm machines, i tried many different atm machines and it looks like card size is compatible or card is absolutely fake, because atm machine doesn't enter this card.
Also i tried another way - to buy online. Also payment is declined.

108 EUR is wasted.

You aren't right! I use two of these QCK cards about 6 months and both work well. Do u contacted their support?

Yes I contacted many times and you're scammer! Yes YOU! And you can stick these cards to your as*, OK?

and you've loaded the card without notice that was different form that can't enter an ATM machine?
And you believe they put on this company to perform this kind of "once" scam and run with money? (I believe money are still there, no?)

I didn't try this plastic card on ATM machine when balance was 0 EUR (I think it's normally that i didn't go to atm to check if card is suitable for ATM, no?)
I believe that they perform scam very cleverly, because money are on my account balance, it's just numbers. And there are no other ways how to transfer balance or withrad it on atm, because card is not suitable for atm. It's fake. And support never answerred to my tons of emails. They sent card from London, but bank account is Czech Republic. Card was attached to very cheap paper. And many other small factories which opened my eyes when i realised that it's scam. Take a look that qckcard.com facebook page has only 1 like. Take a look that qckcard.com is totally copy+paste from viabuy.com (viabuy is trusted company which ask for identity documents before ordering card, qckcard - doesn't ask)

Now you understand?

[Booooooo]

yes also facebook page have no likes plus from what you say have admit seems a scam to me too.
Very smart scam have to admit! Perhaps they send some valid good cards to increase company trust and scam rate

[ameyer]

Bro, order one. I have also QCK card and it work well. I got DE (german) IBAN account.
They don't ask me for ID verification, simply I got letter with card and password. Until today I
withdraw about 3 bitcoins to cash. That's it.

Yeah, your deposits isn't visible immediately. But they use correct rate which correspond to
your transaction time.

This may help you.   

 Anthony

[n3ron]

If i use this cards only to receive payments online via invoices and markets like sellfy bank wont block them?

[kcca]

Hello I am wondering do  you still have the offer with the latest expiration date
thanks

[begish]

hello

I still have some Polish cards

[mescalito]

hello

I still have some Polish cards

mBank or WBK? Do they need branch visit?

[begish]

MBANK, it doesn't need branch visit, but to activate it you need a Polish bank account and sim card

[Hhampuz]

MBANK, it doesn't need branch visit, but to activate it you need a Polish bank account and sim card

Do you only have the Polish cards or do you offer others as well? I'd love to get one or several that I could use both online and physically in Sweden.

Also, what do you currently charge? There's a bunch of pages and I don't feel like scrolling through it all right now, lol.

[ghostbtc]

That's some cheap polak cards there with poor limits. Anything unlimited maybe? This 2500 euros is a joke and 150 euros a day atm is all in the fees. U got anything serious man? This is donkey Kong card for kids or a 12 year old to buy ice cream all year long.

[begish]

MBANK, it doesn't need branch visit, but to activate it you need a Polish bank account and sim card

Do you only have the Polish cards or do you offer others as well? I'd love to get one or several that I could use both online and physically in Sweden.

Also, what do you currently charge? There's a bunch of pages and I don't feel like scrolling through it all right now, lol.

hello

only Polish cards
all the cards have exp 07/2017 or 08/2017
if you still interested send me pm