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July 12, 2013, 08:34:23 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?
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July 12, 2013, 08:40:46 AM
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Oh no, people are going to find out I listen to Led Zeppelin.
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July 12, 2013, 08:47:14 AM
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July 12, 2013, 08:57:52 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

We should sell the data about ourselves and pocket the money rather than wait for them to steal it and pocket nothing.
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July 12, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
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Isn't there an off-topic board? This has nothing to do with alternate crypto-currencies.

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July 12, 2013, 09:23:08 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

We should sell the data about ourselves and pocket the money rather than wait for them to steal it and pocket nothing.

lol - pretty much.


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July 12, 2013, 09:34:47 AM
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Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out?
Yes.
For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy?
Yes.
Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?
Yes.
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July 12, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
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Oh no, people are going to find out I listen to Led Zeppelin.

ever walked into a mall and been surprised as you watched every screen you look at change it's advert to something you hold a mild interest in? ranging from golf clubs to  very specific items like a new antennae for your wifi card?
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July 12, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

We should sell the data about ourselves and pocket the money rather than wait for them to steal it and pocket nothing.

lol - pretty much.

If only we could implement that.
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July 12, 2013, 10:51:45 AM
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Oh no, people are going to find out I listen to Led Zeppelin.

ever walked into a mall and been surprised as you watched every screen you look at change it's advert to something you hold a mild interest in? ranging from golf clubs to  very specific items like a new antennae for your wifi card?
Looking forward screens suddenly displaying dildos wherever I go

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July 12, 2013, 10:56:53 AM
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Oh no, people are going to find out I listen to Led Zeppelin.

ever walked into a mall and been surprised as you watched every screen you look at change it's advert to something you hold a mild interest in? ranging from golf clubs to  very specific items like a new antennae for your wifi card?
Looking forward screens suddenly displaying dildos wherever I go

Or adult diapers.

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July 12, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
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Oh no, people are going to find out I listen to Led Zeppelin.

ever walked into a mall and been surprised as you watched every screen you look at change it's advert to something you hold a mild interest in? ranging from golf clubs to  very specific items like a new antennae for your wifi card?
Looking forward screens suddenly displaying dildos wherever I go

 Grin hehe, i know it's funny and maybe convenient in a way. But i prefer to be old fashioned about shopping. But that is a small example, there is a group working on a behavioral prediction engine. It can currently predict with 80% accuracy how many cigarettes  one of the subjects will smoke in a day. This is work done by a small unfunded group. Say they got a grant and really got serious with it, just by trolling through you browser history and watching how you respond to stimuli, it'll be able to predict the next 5 pages you will visit, by adding a pseudo-learning engine and a targeted censoring program, it could virtually give someone unimaginable power.  It took me two weeks to write a small prediction engine for my btc-e and cryptsy trading bot, and my skills leave much to be desired. How about a motivation of 3 million for ten really good programmers, they'll be able to tell exactly what size and color your dildo should be, whether you like it ribbed or smooth and what extras to add to make it more attractive.

now apply that machine to look through sensitive information. i'm not a hack prattling on about conspiracies, do a threat assesment on these three
1) governments
2) private sector
3) irresponsible individuals or collectives in the general public,

of the three who can do the most damage?

Say i have a functional botnet that mines data for me and send pertinent info, if i had access to that engine... 
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July 12, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

yes , everything yes.

but... do you care?

i mean really care?

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July 12, 2013, 01:05:35 PM
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NSA GON TAKE MY BABBBBIIIES

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July 12, 2013, 01:21:52 PM
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For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy?

This is one of the check marks when you first run WMP. IIRC it's automatically checked, you have to uncheck it.
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July 12, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

yes , everything yes.

but... do you care?

i mean really care?

i actually do, to the effect that i would like to know any and all ways that my current os interacts with the internet, what data it sends and to whom it is sent. Do they keep this info or do they process and dispose?

If someone wants to know something about me, i want the freedom to choose whether to acquiesce their request or not. 
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July 12, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
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Man i could tell you some stories.  its funnier than A Scanner Darkly -

if or when (and i hope you never do) have to worry about what/if you are eating next, then you will never worry about this again.

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July 12, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

yes , everything yes.

but... do you care?

i mean really care?

i actually do, to the effect that i would like to know any and all ways that my current os interacts with the internet, what data it sends and to whom it is sent. Do they keep this info or do they process and dispose?

If someone wants to know something about me, i want the freedom to choose whether to acquiesce their request or not. 

your OS interacts with the internet on many protocols - and nothing you put on it is private unless you go to some extreme measures - you will probably need to go back to Tape walkman, if this aspect of the media side of things is a large issue - ,

how about this little tid bit - sometime Companies mix up the data they were meant to send for signal analysis to the Government agencies and use that for commercial purposes with hilarious results !   

I mean Serious think about this , this whole system has maybe , maybe two years , (including rabbits being pulled from hats) -

after that point its either :

Evolution or something really bad.

here's the good news , it might be evolution ! 

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July 13, 2013, 07:50:41 AM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

We should sell the data about ourselves and pocket the money rather than wait for them to steal it and pocket nothing.

lol - pretty much.

If only we could implement that.


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July 13, 2013, 10:23:32 PM
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I was part of a discussion earlier and a question was raised. Considering all the information companies are sharing with governments, could it be possible that media players that connect to the internet for data, are not only getting information, but are sending it out? For example if you allow WM11 to connect to the net to get track info, it could send a list of songs you have, which is then saved for later use, either for marketing purposes or more sinister invasions of privacy? Also, could that be used as a consensual conduit for companies to gather information on your habits, preferences and activities?

No.  They'd have general information about your "household", not you.
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