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December 10, 2017, 01:06:02 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

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I don't know. But for me, it is not. Volatility is a negative thing for most of the things especially on investment. But in bitcoin you can make profit out of itss volatility such as buying during the backdrops and selling when its value is climbing its way up again. It is absolutely a wise way and it also makes the volatility a not so bad thing for Bitcoin.
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December 10, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

 Huh Huh Huh
So in my own opinion, I think volatility is not a bad thing in bitcoin as it is the main feature which make this digital currency distinctive from others. But in some cases it proves out to be the worst thing like steam one of the largest online video games platform ban accepting bitcoin because of the high transaction fees and it's volatility as when the price fall without any control they incurr loses so that's why it proves fatal for them but for investors it attracts them as they can make early profits by price hype. So the opinions vary according to the needs of community but personally i don't think it as a bad feature but a great one...
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December 10, 2017, 01:46:04 PM
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The price of bitcoin is determined by the flow of demand and supply. Every currency has some volatility. Whenever the demand and supply flow disturbs and volatility increases then government or central authority interments and regulates the same. Bitcoin is a decentralise currency it has no central authority to regulate it, as a result it moves sharply on up and down side resulting huge loss and profit for its investors. Limited volatility is good for the health of any currency but uncontrolled volatility is a bad thing for the development of any currency. 
How do you imagine the controlled volatility of bitcoin? It seems to me that volatility is a thermometer that allows us to monitor the condition of the heating market. For many it becomes a source of income. Volatility is neither good nor bad. It's just a state with which we have to accept and learn to live with it.

Controlling bitcoin volatility is not possible technically, we're talking about a billion dollar market in bitcoin and it's not that easy to control its volatility. Whales make money from volatility.
The market manipulation is really possible since the bitcoin is about the speculation. I mean you can see the latest chart. How there are some people will a lot of bitcoin and then just dump it instantly to the market.
That will be possible to turn the market into the bearish or make others fear about the bitcoin chart.

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December 10, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

 Huh Huh Huh

I think volatily feature of bitcoin makes it more wonderful to work here ,it makes every decimal , counts cause if this is nonexistent I think bitcoin will took long to attract workers when most of the workers were amazed for being expensive of its price.

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December 10, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
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Overall: volatility is a good thing. High volume futures speculation in turn may influence exchange rate pricing and vice versa. IMO, there needs to be fluctuations in price to incentivize its widespread uptake and eventual use as a placeholder of tangible good and services value. When we get to the placeholder stage, volatility will be gone, but value will be installed.
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December 10, 2017, 02:23:57 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

 Huh Huh Huh

Sometimes it is good but sometimes it is bad. When does it goes good, when the value are increasing it is good. Because a lot of people are gaining money in them they are getting rich and their holdings have increases value. That makes the poverty lessen. But being volatile doesn't mean that it will always be growing there are times that they will fall and a lot of fall can ruin all of those who work hard just to save it if all of theur holdings are gonna be worthless but ut us a matter of choice. Just take the risk and learn how to accept consequences.
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December 10, 2017, 02:34:36 PM
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Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

I stripped the rest of your post since this seems to be your main point.

So, the idea of volatility as something evil definitely stems from the fact that merchants aren't using Bitcoin internally or among themselves. They are not interested in it simply because they are interested in dollars or whatever fiat currency they happen to make business with. In this way, Bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies certainly give them a lot of pain in the ass thanks to the insane volatility of these coins. It is a vicious circle of sorts. I mean merchants not using Bitcoin and it being volatile.
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December 10, 2017, 02:38:16 PM
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Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

I stripped the other parts of your post since this seems to be your main point.

So, this idea of volatility as something evil definitely stems from the fact that merchants aren't using Bitcoin internally. They are not interested in it simply because they are interested in dollars or whatever fiat currency they happen to make business with. In this way, Bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies certainly give them a lot of pain in the ass thanks to their insane volatility. It is a vicious circle of sorts. I mean merchants not using Bitcoin and it being volatile.
It would really give pain into their ass because they do always like fixed or stable prices which we cant really see on bitcoin itself this is why they don't really bother at all on accepting or engaging into it. Well we do have different level and perceptions into things on where we can take advantage and for most traders this feature or behavior of bitcoin is really like a gold thing on making more money.

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December 10, 2017, 03:13:40 PM
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my country highly recommend not to use bitcoin because Volatility and there is no guarantee investing at bitcoin will growing our value asset in the future although most people said bitcoin will continue grow from popularity and the price side but this is pure of speculations and the only good thing from Volatility is sometimes also give us good opportunity to get profit depend on how far we can utilize this thing
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December 10, 2017, 03:18:53 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

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The main worry in this bitcoin business is that it's hard to know exactly who investors, especially big players who invest their money to buy lots of bitcoin. Increase in amazon stocks is listed in the stock index which is registered by a particular business entity, while the movement of investments in bitcoin despite a positive but more risky move because of many factors that we can not be exact information why they billionaire invest in bitcoin, whether only to seek long-term profit long by supporting bitcoin or even looking for short-term profits, which then leave the bitcoin and cause chaos afterward.
So this volatile factor becomes confused, whether investors are like a product offered bitcoin or just want to play in the stock market.
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December 10, 2017, 03:19:36 PM
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As for me, I take Bitcoin volatility as the greatest chance to trade smartly. if you understand the scheme of its ups and downs you can earn a lot!
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December 10, 2017, 03:29:08 PM
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If the volatility is a complete bad thing then a lot of people are now selling bitcoin because they hate volatility, and it will not bring any good for them. Volatility is one of the best thing in bitcoin because you can just earn fast or loss fast but with right and good analogy you can really have a higher rate of success in making profits in bitcoin.



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December 10, 2017, 04:26:19 PM
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I will say its bad if we want bitcoin to go mainstream because I don't expect multinationals to start considering adopting a currency that could grow in value over night and come down the following night. Its OK to be volatile but high percentage volatility is what is bad for bitcoin like the one we witnessed in this past couple of days
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December 10, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

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I thinks volatility is not a bad things because for me  all things happen for a reason and have a purpose.volatility is  presence because its depends on the block chain moving,it depends on selling or buying stock in exchange market.

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December 10, 2017, 04:34:17 PM
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The Volatility of BTC is what define it . Maybe if BTC was not Volatility it would never reach what it reach today . People think of the Volatility of BTC as negative thing but I think it is the most positive thing of BTC . The Volatility  of BTC what makes people so interested in it .
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December 10, 2017, 04:39:21 PM
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Bitcoin volatility is good when user starts to make use of it and gain good through the same. Volatility is all because of market being decentralized and the sudden price pumping and drops happening with time. This will last forever with bitcoin, and particularly just being volatile has gained such a large user base. Else, this could have never been this popular.

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December 10, 2017, 04:41:31 PM
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Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?
Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?
In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?
If you are business owner and if you are accepting bitcoin as a mode of payment,the sudden surge in price will make you think twice whether to keep on accepting bitcoin because the price has come to a stage that it would not be profitable if the price comes crashing down,the price rallied for the past one year and any product which has a growth like this would burst at any moment and that is the general concept and may be because of these reason they wanted to stop accepting bitcoin .If they are converting the coins as soon as they get them,then that would allow them to keep on accepting bitcoin,other than that i am not sure what their business model is.
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December 10, 2017, 04:41:56 PM
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Everyone has their own interests in bitcoin. Those who trade coins on the exchange volatility of cryptocurrencies at hand. It is their business. I am sure that they are happy about this. To trade volatility is bad. Traders cannot predict the price of goods in bitcoins so for them it's trouble. But we all adapt to this as a cryptocurrency and is extracted from the benefits.
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December 10, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

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Volatility on BTCitcoin is a good thing considering the value upto now it is the work of volatilty and some influence some traders and buyers. Sure bitcoin's volatilty can be bad sometimes but mostlt it always rise from an  unexpected mark and contiously grow from time to time.
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December 10, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
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Steam dropped bitcoin support citing "high volatility" as a motive.

When amazon stock jumped from $18 to $1,200 over a period of years, was this high volatility a bad thing?

If bitcoin's value increases from $6,000 to $16,000 over a period of months, and HODL'ers benefit, this high volatility is bad?

Where does the idea of high volatility being an unnecessary evil come from?

Are there good arguments or evidence which support the concept of high volatility being a negative circumstance?

In a sense, volatility simply means the price of something moves a lot, its not that bad if the vast majority of motion is in an upward direction?

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The volatility of Bitcoin market value has both positive and negative effect on every Bitcoin holders and traders in the market. Holders of Bitcoin will benefit when ever there is an upward volatile and those who acquire Bitcoin when Bitcoin value was high will be at the disadvantaged when ever bitcoin is on the decline direction. As for me personally I don't see it as a major problem because its benefit to me out weight the consequences.
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