Bounty Manager "SmartIphone" and "Sam" (Discussion of the thread Centra)

[buharikx31]

Hello, I want to open the discussion about Centra campaign which still not paid for their translators(and other participants), as it mentioned on the bounty thread, the totall amount of tokens for translators should be 300,000, after the bounty campaign ends, we had an announcement from SmartIphone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057569.msg22494141#msg22494141

The end dates to make this payments 3rd of December and today is 9th and there still no spreadsheet with calculations after 70 days from that announcement,
according to the rules the stakes should be divided between translators, but there is only 19 people who made translation for this certain camapaign, and translators get 1000 tokens each, which is not even close to to real amount.

Here is screenshots, talking with manager Sam about the bounty payment :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057569.msg24632307#msg24632307

After 60 days after publishing the anouncement to get the payments for bounty, they publish a new form to get the bounty reward : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057569.msg25429295#msg25429295
But still after filling that form people dont recieve any payment which as mentioned should be made at Friday :

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[Fortify]

It's always good to point out abuses like this, but this is typical of so many "altcoins". They whip hundreds of people into a frenzy, claiming to be the next big thing, and simply use them to perpetuate a giant pyramid scheme. There is always an end or payment date and everything is built towards that, the owners rely on peoples trust to that point and then simply disappear - a whole lot richer. It is very easy to buy accounts on this forum, so it is unlikely that you will be able to pin down the real person behind it.

[bitcoinsforall]

I too did Translation for Centra and I am yet to be paid.

Below link to the excel
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B6ByoCPDrC86a6NzAIYCS2qGgLaJubQ0O6EXv7A-lvU/edit#gid=419233489

Sent a message to sam on telegram and even filled this bounty form as nothing happened till now.

[buharikx31]

It's always good to point out abuses like this, but this is typical of so many "altcoins". They whip hundreds of people into a frenzy, claiming to be the next big thing, and simply use them to perpetuate a giant pyramid scheme. There is always an end or payment date and everything is built towards that, the owners rely on peoples trust to that point and then simply disappear - a whole lot richer. It is very easy to buy accounts on this forum, so it is unlikely that you will be able to pin down the real person behind it.

I totally agree with your opinion!

I too did Translation for Centra and I am yet to be paid.

Below link to the excel
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B6ByoCPDrC86a6NzAIYCS2qGgLaJubQ0O6EXv7A-lvU/edit#gid=419233489

Sent a message to sam on telegram and even filled this bounty form as nothing happened till now.

I already sent over 20 messages and I dont get any response for that, from Sam, SmartIphone and other centra team, so I decided to open this thread, it also depends how much you get paid if you get only 1000 tokens that's not a right amount for that work because totall amount of coins is 300 000 and there is only 19 translators

[Luigi21]

I have the same problem, also I have already filled the form but until now I've received nothing from them.
I will continue to wait but I'm losing all hope

[dashingriddler]

Patience is a virtue. They are verifying everyone's entries. Translators were involved in other countries not included in the spreadsheet through Bitsset for various Asia continent countries. If your not happy that's your problem.

[buharikx31]

Patience is a virtue. They are verifying everyone's entries. Translators were involved in other countries not included in the spreadsheet through Bitsset for various Asia continent countries. If your not happy that's your problem.

We didnt saw that spreadsheet since the end of ICO. The terms that SmartIphone provided already ended and in the bounty page, nobody from centra team mentioned about some "Bitsset", maybe we would not even take this as a work because of that, now bounty campaign ends and you telling that you involved some other company which you never mentioned before, so provide us the spreadsheet with calculations you had over then 60 days for that and people get 1000 tokens for their work, I dont believe that 1000 tokens it's a exact amount

[Andrew1337]

Hey , I am the translator of Centra Tech for Romanian language.

In my opinion something weird is happening , I think they pay weekly in batches because they are afraid that the price of CTR will be dumped too much.
I got my first payment from social media ( twitter + blog ) and actually I am still waiting for second payment for translation of whitepaper+ ann thread.
Let's give them a little bit more time and let's see if they will truly pay us ( the translators ).

Pleasant wait

[buharikx31]

Hey , I am the translator of Centra Tech for Romanian language.

In my opinion something weird is happening , I think they pay weekly in batches because they are afraid that the price of CTR will be dumped too much.
I got my first payment from social media ( twitter + blog ) and actually I am still waiting for second payment for translation of whitepaper+ ann thread.
Let's give them a little bit more time and let's see if they will truly pay us ( the translators ).

Pleasant wait

Andrew1337 I understand that maybe you can wait but, they mentioned 8 weeks period in which they should make all of the payments :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057569.msg22494141#msg22494141
If you can wait, it doesnt mean that every translator will accept that, to wait additional time which is violation from their side and it's already 67 days after they made the anouncement and still dont have a spreadsheet to disagree or agree with that payment

[Porfirii]

I think you're mixing up the campaigns. The 840 CTR you mention are from the Slack/Telegram campaign, that was already paid weeks ago. Still waiting, but translations bounties should be several thousands.

[qq767178175]

  I too did Translation for Centra and I am yet to be paid.

[sabotag3x]

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So, that's the first time that I open an scam accusation against an project.

I'm working with translations for a while, I always try to delivery my best in order to help these projects and the whole portuguese community, I don't care if the ICO doesn't pay me in case they did not raised the min cap and I've also picked up some projects with an (fixed) smaller bounty and I never got upset because the price was underrated.

So let's go straight to the facts, CENTRA (CTR) promissed an bounty pool of 2% (15% to translators) and after the ICO finished, they said that would pay in batches in a period of 8 weeks. The token was listed on exchanges on 26/09, so let's take this date as the starting date.
26/09 to 21/11 = 8 weeks
Today (05/12) it will reach the 12th week.

I've talked with others translators as well, some received the payment, some received an smaller amount and the reason was: "he said that they paid some asian translators which made them 125 works and they should give them also part of that bounty".

Also, I'm trying to contact CTR team for a long time, on Slack, Bitcointalk, Telegram, e-mail and they just ignore me. The only guy that replied something was "pharaoh"(thank you) on Slack however that's not his department.

Here's some conversations before the ICO:

Hello, I can translate your project to Portuguese.

Here's my portfolio: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141827.0

Let me know if you have interest, I'm waiting for your reply.

Regards.

Can you translate today the ANN and tomorrow maximum the Whitepaper?

Portuguese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2184762.0

I'll deliver the WP in a few hours..

Portuguese WP: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B134irro5LxiQlE3UjZiTHJKMkE/view?usp=sharing

Regards.

One question how did you edited the ANN pictures
Looks pretty good

Look that the replies was fast af.. and then the ICO finished and they just started to ignore the PMs, unfortunately they reached the Slack messages limit and a lot of these messages was lost, and probably they can erase some PMs since they have an "add-on" that can do it to avoid phishing(I'm saying that because I noticed that some chats just gone away).

some DMs:



translators tab on Slack:



Telegram:



E-mail:

I've filled the form on 27/11




So, I just don't understand how a big project (in terms of money raised, team, etc.) like this can be so amateur and unprofessional.

I just don't know who's the responsible for the bounties, if is SmartIphone or some CTR boss, so I don't know who can I blame in order to receive an negative trust or whatsoever and I think they just don't care about an negative trust since they already collected a lot of money.

I'm just upset with this project and for sure more people will come here to say the same and confirm my history.

Have a nice day.



this text was written on 05/12, I was waiting for the friday batch however I did not received anything yesterday.

[Wasimalik]

Hi guys, I was also Urdu translator and Thread supporter for Centra Tech.Till this date i still have not received a single CTR and Im afraid they will never pay.

So, to get you guys united and to talk further strategies i have created a telegram group to discuss this situation: https://t.me/joinchat/FSrq_g_p0ffA1hloqRSNKw
I hope you all will join our struggle to get our hard work paid.

Regards,
Wasimalik

[buharikx31]

Hi guys, I was also Urdu translator and Thread supporter for Centra Tech.Till this date i still have not received a single CTR and Im afraid they will never pay.

So, to get you guys united and to talk further strategies i have created a telegram group to discuss this situation: https://t.me/joinchat/FSrq_g_p0ffA1hloqRSNKw
I hope you all will join our struggle to get our hard work paid.

Regards,
Wasimalik

Also I noticed today that  I get deleted from their Slack channel for no reason the same  happened with telegram for asking question about bounty payments, I saw that happened with others users also who asked this type of questions:

[Wasimalik]

I also gets kicked out just bcz of asking to make everything clear to us bcz we have done work for you.

[lx001]

Patience is a virtue. They are verifying everyone's entries. Translators were involved in other countries not included in the spreadsheet through Bitsset for various Asia continent countries. If your not happy that's your problem.

I have quoted this for reference. Bounty was listed on this forum, there was a specific bounty pool, spreadsheets with all participants also were listed on this forum. There were ANN and white paper translations. And now you are saying this?

Lol, so now I know how to attract fools to promote my project. I will create a bounty topic with a $10000 pool, there will be 100 participants in the spreadsheets. So basically each one of them should receive $100. But at the end I am going to say "sorry guys, there were actually 1000 people, they were not in the spreadsheets but thats your problem. So please take your $0.10".
Absolutely all participants should be listed in the spreadsheets - if they are not in the spreadsheets - they did not participate. How do we know you are not sending out 10x less amounts?
Why there are still no spreadsheets published with all the shares?

Translation and Moderation Bounty:

Centra's Translation Bounty Campaign will have 15% of the Bounty Pool and will be participated on BitcoinTalk.org and supporting threads.

5: Each participant should translate the BitcoinTalk.org Centra ICO Thread, Whitepaper, create a thread on Local Board in BitcoinTalk, and publish the translation as well.

Do you see what is written here? Where did these "translators from other countries outside the forum" come from if the bounty topic is created specifically for Bitcointalk? You have published a bounty pool size for THIS forum.

I think translators will remove their translations soon and label this project as a scam with big, red letters in the 1st post until they get paid in full, based on the spreadsheets. They have nothing to lose anyway.

[buharikx31]

Patience is a virtue. They are verifying everyone's entries. Translators were involved in other countries not included in the spreadsheet through Bitsset for various Asia continent countries. If your not happy that's your problem.

I have quoted this for reference. Bounty was listed on this forum, there was a specific bounty pool, spreadsheets with all participants also were listed on this forum. There were ANN and white paper translations. And now you are saying this?

Lol, so now I know how to attract fools to promote my project. I will create a bounty topic with a $10000 pool, there will be 100 participants in the spreadsheets. So basically each one of them should receive $100. But at the end I am going to say "sorry guys, there were actually 1000 people, they were not in the spreadsheets but thats your problem. So please take your $0.10".
Absolutely all participants should be listed in the spreadsheets - if they are not in the spreadsheets - they did not participate. How do we know you are not sending out 10x less amounts?
Why there are still no spreadsheets published with all the shares?

Translation and Moderation Bounty:

Centra's Translation Bounty Campaign will have 15% of the Bounty Pool and will be participated on BitcoinTalk.org and supporting threads.

5: Each participant should translate the BitcoinTalk.org Centra ICO Thread, Whitepaper, create a thread on Local Board in BitcoinTalk, and publish the translation as well.

Do you see what is written here? Where did these "translators from other countries outside the forum" come from if the bounty topic is created specifically for Bitcointalk? You have published a bounty pool size for THIS forum.

I think translators will remove their translations soon and label this project as a scam with big, red letters in the 1st post until they get paid in full, based on the spreadsheets. They have nothing to lose anyway.

I totally agree with your statement, we get x10 lower then it should be, 1000 tokens got people from Slack/Telegram, which is understandable but for translators it's nothing comparing to amount of people that participated on this campaign and amount of tokens that should be distributed.

Translation and Moderation Bounty:

Centra's Translation Bounty Campaign will have 15% of the Bounty Pool and will be participated on BitcoinTalk.org and supporting threads.

[anirgu]

They paid well during the signature campaign and must say it was all in time as mentioned but as we see the bounty for translation is close to 300k, they do not want it to get dumped and lower the CTR price.Due to this, they stopped paying translators and slowed down the process of payment for other bounties.

[erikalui]

I received about 872 CTR for Hindi translation and I am not sure if the amount was right as I just did their ANN thread translation. I was asked to take up their Whitepaper but I din't as it was too long and the format was kinda weird (too many images) and hence I did not ask anyone if the amount was right. They had any case taken too long to send the payment and I was glad that they atleast sent something in return for my work. I never got to see their final sheet though.

[Heimer]

I received about 872 CTR for Hindi translation and I am not sure if the amount was right as I just did their ANN thread translation. I was asked to take up their Whitepaper but I din't as it was too long and the format was kinda weird (too many images) and hence I did not ask anyone if the amount was right. They had any case taken too long to send the payment and I was glad that they atleast sent something in return for my work. I never got to see their final sheet though.

You should receive much more. Translation bounty was worth 300,000 CTR according to this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057569.0