Criminal Lawsuit against BFL in Germany [in progress]

[carolstreet444]

Official documents of the german prosecutor will be released here soon.

Be patient.

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[jelin1984]

What you mean ? We can take back our money from bfl

[carolstreet444]

What you mean ? We can take back our money from bfl

How? As far as I know they dont refund anymore nor do they deliver

[Foofighter]

like that

[Flying Hellfish]

34 german customers gave me their identity and order IDs so far. None of them did receive any unit from BFL.

LOL perhaps one of the units reportedly seized by German customs was for one of those customers?

[SLok]

You know you have to wait till your place in line comes up, no? And that you agreed to that, and at the pop-up which you had to click to maintain or cancel your order because changed power usage you chose "agree", like you agreed to the "no more refunds once we start delivering?"

[ftping]

You know you have to wait till your place in line comes up, no? And that you agreed to that, and at the pop-up which you had to click to maintain or cancel your order because changed power usage you chose "agree", like you agreed to the "no more refunds once we start delivering?"

Something something you can't forbid refunds on pre-sale items something something law

[pikeadz]

I hate BFL, but I think this is funny.  I have visions of a german guy in an interpol uniform with a little blue light on his car roof knocking on BFL's doors and just being waved away like a mosquito.  It's a US corporation.  Pound sand, Germany.

[k9quaint]

You know you have to wait till your place in line comes up, no? And that you agreed to that, and at the pop-up which you had to click to maintain or cancel your order because changed power usage you chose "agree", like you agreed to the "no more refunds once we start delivering?"

Something something you can't forbid refunds on pre-sale items something something law

If this is actually happening, it should be trivial for the German judiciary to write a polite note to the US FTC and ask them to take some action on BFL. Since BFL violates FTC rules, there won't be issues about enforcement.

[ocminer]

Thats typically for the germans.. They always think their the greatest, the best and they got the law on their side.

If BFL was a german company, the boss would already be in jail and the buyers would lawsuit the shit out of him .. it then does not matter if they get the money or the product, all they want is to be right..

LMAO

[Bigrah]

I hate BFL, but I think this is funny.  I have visions of a german guy in an interpol uniform with a little blue light on his car roof knocking on BFL's doors and just being waved away like a mosquito.  It's a US corporation.  Pound sand, Germany.

Its not that funny.. A german court can confiscate every product that BFL ships into the EU.

That people will risk the purchases from everyone who lives in Europe..

[iANDROID]

Thats typically for the germansAmericans.. They always think their the greatest, the best and they got the law on their side.

If BFL was a germanan american company, the boss would already be in jail and the buyers would lawsuit the shit out of him .. it then does not matter if they get the money or the product, all they want is to be right..

LMAO

You made some mistakes.

[pikeadz]

I hate BFL, but I think this is funny.  I have visions of a german guy in an interpol uniform with a little blue light on his car roof knocking on BFL's doors and just being waved away like a mosquito.  It's a US corporation.  Pound sand, Germany.

Its not that funny.. A german court can confiscate every product that BFL ships into the EU.

That people will risk the purchases from everyone who lives in Europe..

So that would be the Germans screwing other Germans.  Not prosecuting BFL.  How does that nip the problem in the bud, exactly?

[electropyro]

I really hope they cancel all the orders going to germany that way many people will move up in the queue who don't mind waiting just a bit longer........

[Flying Hellfish]

You know you have to wait till your place in line comes up, no? And that you agreed to that, and at the pop-up which you had to click to maintain or cancel your order because changed power usage you chose "agree", like you agreed to the "no more refunds once we start delivering?"

I really really hope BFL tries to use this defense, because it will make it that much easier LOL.

[PsychoticBoy]

Another FUD thread, with things that will NEVER happen.
LMFAO

[SgtSpike]

Lol, this should be good.  Let us know how that turns out for ya.  

[pikeadz]

I cant release all details yet. BFL got a german version of their website and through  that their german sales apply to german laws. They get busted in germany if they have the ass to fly over to the court.

LOL... good luck with that. 

I really think threads like this do a disservice to their cause.  Yes, we all hate BFL.  Yes, they are a scummy operation.  But false threats like this just make YOU look bad when they never materialize.  Look at Xian's threats which never materialized.  You can't just threaten to sue people or have them arrested in order to effect change.  It has to actually happen.  So again, good luck with that.   

[erk]

Lol the best Germany could do would be ban import, they have no other jurisdiction, BFL are not in the EU. How would that help the customers? It would certainly help other BFL customers around the world as they would move up in the queue. 

I smell another smear thread.

[EuroTrash]

Thats typically for the germans.. They always think their the greatest, the best and they got the law on their side.

If BFL was a german company, the boss would already be in jail and the buyers would lawsuit the shit out of him .. it then does not matter if they get the money or the product, all they want is to be right..

LMAO

I'm not German and yet I like that attitude. Courts do their job over there. Electors also are less stupid and politicians are held accountable for their actions.