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Recently, in a presentation to a (non-crypto) payment network, a guy asked the same question, Satoshi real? This is a common question, but sounds absurd to me.
I even had a hard time understanding the question, like many here. In those moments it always makes me want to get into metaphysical discussions about reality and the possibility of simulating the world, which would be the only really correct way to answer this question. And perhaps most interesting is how difficult it is for people to accept Satoshi's anonymity. The difficulty is so great that they come to question reality.
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Is Op indirectly implying that Satoshi is a Japanese? Well Satoshi is not from Japan and Satoshi has no country but yet he is real. He existed and he is existing. I was taught about mysteries in Christiandom, to be precised, Satoshi is a mystery. There is no need trying to unravel the mystery, because satoshi's pseudonymity and anonymosity is as important as bitcoin itself.
Who knows, Satoshi could be a woman, a man, an orphan or maybe I am Satoshi. I once saw somewhere that we are all Satoshis. This belief is part of bitcoin and you cannot change it. And one funny thing is that anyone claiming to be Satoshi would not be believed. Even if the real Satoshi shows up, it will take him some times to convince the people, if actually he can do so. Theymos might be the one that will announce it to us. We will likely believe theymos when he says a particular person is Satoshi than when another person promotes himself to be Satoshi.
Back to your question, Satoshi is real. Can you tell me anything that is rumoured that existed that is not real? Everything is real, it a depends on the particular mirror you are watching from.
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May 07, 2022, 09:17:47 PM |
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I don't think bitcoin is only made by one person because if we look at every project, there is always a team on them and the team can be composed of both male and female but like any other project, there is a lead man on them and it was satoshi for bitcoin but I don't know if satoshi is just a nickname or it was a true name because there's also teams that uses their real names on the project that they are creating. Bitcoin might have some flaws, that is why altcoins are created to supply those.
I think the same, bitcoin is probably like all projects nowadays created by a group of people or an organization because it is very difficult for one person to take on the whole implementation of a project. Satoshi is simply an alias to address that we still mistakenly think of as a person's name. But even though Satoshi is he/she/the team, Satoshi is real and it is Satoshi that created bitcoin for us to use today.
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May 07, 2022, 09:38:19 PM |
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Bitcoin is in many main languages but not Japanese. Why would the guy who created it not make it in his own language? Don't you find it suspicious MtGox is in Japan? Also the project really isn't a success. A lot of progress still has to be made. Security is still an issue along with sites still growing. Anyone ever even talk to him? I'm not saying he isn't real I'm just putting this out there.
I don't understand the connection between satoshi and Japan. Are you just saying the name sounds Japanese so Bitcoin was invented in Japan? Seems like judging a book by it's cover... Do I find it suspicious that a site called Magic the Gathering Online Exchange is in Japan? No. It was also owned by a Frenchman. Not weird. You don't think Bitcoin is a success? It's worth nearly a trillion dollars and kicked off a new asset class. It's hard to imagine it being any more successful at this stage. Sure, it's got it's downfalls, but hijacking control to push poor agendas aside, it's growing about as fast as anything could. Someone had to have written the Whitepaper...
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May 07, 2022, 11:56:15 PM |
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I don't think bitcoin is only made by one person because if we look at every project, there is always a team on them and the team can be composed of both male and female but like any other project, there is a lead man on them and it was satoshi for bitcoin but I don't know if satoshi is just a nickname or it was a true name because there's also teams that uses their real names on the project that they are creating. Bitcoin might have some flaws, that is why altcoins are created to supply those.
I think the same, bitcoin is probably like all projects nowadays created by a group of people or an organization because it is very difficult for one person to take on the whole implementation of a project. Satoshi is simply an alias to address that we still mistakenly think of as a person's name. But even though Satoshi is he/she/the team, Satoshi is real and it is Satoshi that created bitcoin for us to use today. Satoshi is real and we're not sure whether it is a person or an organisation. Also there is no strong evidence to state this. There are terms mentioning that it is a joint project of few corporate networks. However none have mentioned it officially and everything is opensource. If it is developed by corporate networks, then surely this could've been kept private.
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wow... I mean this thread is from 2011... almost 11 years old and and then these words Also the project really isn't a success.
So on the day posting around June 2011 bitcoin price was $9.57 and today it's 3600x over, does he still stand with his word "the project really isn't a success?"Regarding the question is Satoshi real? I think bitcoin is the answer... Satoshi was/is as real as bitcoin is today.
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I don't know if Satoshi is real, but Bitcoin has definitely been a success. No one can say it has failed.
I don't feel Bitcoin was meant to be this "other" investment market that it is today. But maybe Satoshi or whoever created this would be proud to see how his original Bitcoin project has exploded and evolved. Or, maybe it was the plan all along.
Governments are already getting their grubby hands in it, as well as the very investors and corrupt bad actors that caused the recession in 2008/2009 in the first place.
I'd love to hear Satoshi's view on this, considering what happened in 2009 is what encouraged him to create Bitcoin.
I hope Satoshi's true identity isn't some amalgam of different governments who are using this for a test run of something bad. I've thought of that possibility too. I wouldn't put anything past anybody, especially my government.
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May 08, 2022, 05:46:05 PM |
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This topic was made by op in 2011 and bitcoin is too early for that time, that is the reason why there's only a few languages that has been made but if we can check it by now, many languages have now been added on the list and one of it is Japanese. Satoshi is anonymous and I don't think someone knows that he is from japan but people only assume that he is Japanese because of his name.
Almost 11 years now have past and we can say that bitcoin is now a successful project because many countries already adopted it and many people use btc the way it mean to be and that is for purchasing and sending/receiving money. Along with the growing adoption, that also makes it network more stronger and secure.
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May 08, 2022, 09:06:22 PM |
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I never truly believed that it was just a single person who did this. I do not know if I believe in all of that FBI or CIA type of conspiracy theory stuff neither, I just know that it is combination of many people who has worked so far on digital money. You have to realize that bitcoin is not the first digital money that was ever created, there were plenty other attempts but they lacked the decentralization of it, and blockchain wasn't ready.
So, what Satoshi did (either one person or multiple) was combine many things together and added a bit of his own sauce into it and he created blockchain from that. So, if you look at blockchain and bitcoin, you will find traces of digital currencies created before bitcoin in there, making it a combined effort to get it there.
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Nobody can say that Satoshi is real and alive. Actually, satoshi is a pseudonym, who invented Bitcoin, the first-ever digital currency. No one has proof that it is a real identity. It is believed that Satoshi was Japanese, and some other claims are also made. As a result, it is completely unclear who Satoshi was or is.
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In his last email Stoshi said he would be "...venturing into more complex ideas...". I think he's still working on crypto projects in the background. Look at particl.io it's a natural progression of the unstoppable marketplace he was working on just before he disapeared. I often wonder if he's one of the team members on the project. Some have chosen to remain anonymous.
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May 09, 2022, 06:42:07 AM |
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Who knows, Satoshi could be a woman, a man, an orphan or maybe I am Satoshi. I once saw somewhere that we are all Satoshis. This belief is part of bitcoin and you cannot change it.
I won't be surprised at diverse means people use in identifying Satoshi and his personality but all were base on individuals assumptions because Satoshi is anonymous and once they fully understand the meaning of the word anonymous in this context then i think they should know that settles every doubt and claims from various sources on whom Satoshi really is, i heard this which is one of the funniest thing to laugh at when it was claimed that Satoshi was an ex-convict. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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What's important now is that those who hold btc are very lucky because they have very valuable assets in their wallets, the satoshi issue is no longer important to discuss because basically satoshi doesn't want to be present in public.
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Nobody can say that Satoshi is real and alive. Actually, satoshi is a pseudonym, who invented Bitcoin, the first-ever digital currency. No one has proof that it is a real identity. It is believed that Satoshi was Japanese, and some other claims are also made. As a result, it is completely unclear who Satoshi was or is.
Do you know their was a time i read across that Satoshi have a team that worked with him during the time of building bitcoin technology and you can not tell me that the team none of them knows Satoshi or know the the country is from even ever they working through email or any other social media handle
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I don't think anyone will believe when the satoshi figure appears, what many are waiting for right now is the price increase and positive news about bitcoin, all we have in mind is money, and only a few thoughts about the functional development of bitcoin. then I guess there's no point in having a satoshi appear, even better its whereabouts will always remain a mystery
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If not Satoshi, who do you think it would be? There has to be someone behind that. Now everyone is talking about Satoshi and his discovery of bitcoin. I don’t think there is anyone else that I can relate to bitcoin.
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