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August 06, 2013, 10:55:04 PM |
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So where is OP of this thread?
Well less than 24hrs ago he said: For the last two days, I've had some real-life related stuff take priority, I haven't gotten much work done on the miner. I should have more time in a couple of days.
Haha, so this is not "Real-Life". He decides to take $1,000's and then enjoy his new lifestyle before even prioritizing the community who is actually having high hopes for him... Now he can make another bs story to premine or delay the release. How can you say that? What if someone in his family became very ill or passed away? Don't be a dbag unless you have proof that he intends to fraud his donators.
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August 06, 2013, 11:18:17 PM |
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So where is OP of this thread?
Well less than 24hrs ago he said: For the last two days, I've had some real-life related stuff take priority, I haven't gotten much work done on the miner. I should have more time in a couple of days.
Haha, so this is not "Real-Life". He decides to take $1,000's and then enjoy his new lifestyle before even prioritizing the community who is actually having high hopes for him... Now he can make another bs story to premine or delay the release. How can you say that? What if someone in his family became very ill or passed away? Don't be a dbag unless you have proof that he intends to fraud his donators. Why not just sell the program for the first few days when it's finished? instead of asking early for "investments" or "donations". It shouldn't have cost him anything so why invest. The only thing he should be getting handed BTC for is for the time he spent to complete it. I'm not trying to assume this guy is BS, he does have past credentials. But what i don't understand is why people hand him thousands before something is even finished. Risky, but hey, it's your money.
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August 06, 2013, 11:23:24 PM |
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Donations ≠ payment
If you sent money to him, you did it out the kindness of your own heart. It's cringeworthy if you expect him to make software for you just so you can get rich, and expect him to work on it 24/7.
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August 06, 2013, 11:23:40 PM |
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So where is OP of this thread?
Well less than 24hrs ago he said: For the last two days, I've had some real-life related stuff take priority, I haven't gotten much work done on the miner. I should have more time in a couple of days.
Haha, so this is not "Real-Life". He decides to take $1,000's and then enjoy his new lifestyle before even prioritizing the community who is actually having high hopes for him... Now he can make another bs story to premine or delay the release. How can you say that? What if someone in his family became very ill or passed away? Don't be a dbag unless you have proof that he intends to fraud his donators. That could happen, but users deserve a reasonable explanation and i am sure anybody can explain better instead of saying couple of days. Usually it is bullshit though, i am looking at probability. And based on history of anything crypto related, people who withhold information or delay any thing are usually doing it for there own intentions. I have yet to see anything about his reputation other than him coding reaper to outweigh my suspicions. Not just making something up, it just smells more like bs to me.
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August 06, 2013, 11:34:38 PM |
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Donations ≠ payment
If you sent money to him, you did it out the kindness of your own heart. It's cringeworthy if you expect him to make software for you just so you can get rich, and expect him to work on it 24/7.
That's not quite what is going on here. By donating you are getting early access to the GPU miner, as stated in the OP. Therefore, I would call it a payment. It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once. Edit (didn't finish my thought): It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once and you were sending him BTC for encouragement.
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August 07, 2013, 12:18:25 AM |
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duno why the rush, diff is the same for past few days... gpu miner now or in 3 week want change anything at all, just more time for small CPU miners like myself to get more ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 07, 2013, 12:21:43 AM |
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Donations ≠ payment
If you sent money to him, you did it out the kindness of your own heart. It's cringeworthy if you expect him to make software for you just so you can get rich, and expect him to work on it 24/7.
That's not quite what is going on here. By donating you are getting early access to the GPU miner, as stated in the OP. Therefore, I would call it a payment. It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once. Edit (didn't finish my thought): It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once and you were sending him BTC for encouragement. Getting access to the beta is like a gift for your donation as well as having a limited number of people work out any bugs that are present in the software before releasing it into the public. He stated that donators will get to use the GPU miner before the general public, so unless he decides to release it to everyone at once, then he isn't scamming anyone. Give him a few more days. I'm sure he'll finish it soon.
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August 07, 2013, 12:47:30 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
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August 07, 2013, 02:02:44 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
I heard the miner works and is mining at decent speeds (not reaper-like) but it's depositing blocks into some anonymous account.Virus. Don't get.
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August 07, 2013, 02:15:38 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
I heard the miner works and is mining at decent speeds (not reaper-like) but it's depositing blocks into some anonymous account.Virus. Don't get. Ah, thanks. I have a friend with some good video cards but a terrible cpu that was thinking of trying it out just to see if he could get anything with it. I just want to get an idea since I haven't gotten a block on my 3930k since the 25th. Luck tends to be that way anyway... I got one a day for three days and then an orphan - nothing else after that cpu mining. It just worked out that way... Look at those xpm prices tonight... they went up from .006 this morning to .01 at a peak tonight - back down to .008 now....
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August 07, 2013, 03:16:03 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
I heard the miner works and is mining at decent speeds (not reaper-like) but it's depositing blocks into some anonymous account.Virus. Don't get. Ah, thanks. I have a friend with some good video cards but a terrible cpu that was thinking of trying it out just to see if he could get anything with it. I just want to get an idea since I haven't gotten a block on my 3930k since the 25th. Luck tends to be that way anyway... I got one a day for three days and then an orphan - nothing else after that cpu mining. It just worked out that way... Look at those xpm prices tonight... they went up from .006 this morning to .01 at a peak tonight - back down to .008 now.... On which exchange did XPM hit 0.01? I'm going to slap myself if I missed out lol
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August 07, 2013, 03:20:09 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
I heard the miner works and is mining at decent speeds (not reaper-like) but it's depositing blocks into some anonymous account.Virus. Don't get. Ah, thanks. I have a friend with some good video cards but a terrible cpu that was thinking of trying it out just to see if he could get anything with it. I just want to get an idea since I haven't gotten a block on my 3930k since the 25th. Luck tends to be that way anyway... I got one a day for three days and then an orphan - nothing else after that cpu mining. It just worked out that way... Look at those xpm prices tonight... they went up from .006 this morning to .01 at a peak tonight - back down to .008 now.... On which exchange did XPM hit 0.01? I'm going to slap myself if I missed out lol It was a spike on Cryptsy. Take a look at the graph there - it's still at .00835 right now though. https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/63
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August 07, 2013, 03:20:31 AM |
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Lets get off the topic of what constitutes a donation or a purchase for now.
On a completely unrelated note, has anyone downloaded that "alpha copy" of a miner that has been floating around online? I'm curious about what it actually is since nobody here actually said anything from personal experience as far as I could tell - it seemed like people were just looking at what antivirus programs picked it up as malware on virus total or something like that.
I heard the miner works and is mining at decent speeds (not reaper-like) but it's depositing blocks into some anonymous account.Virus. Don't get. Ah, thanks. I have a friend with some good video cards but a terrible cpu that was thinking of trying it out just to see if he could get anything with it. I just want to get an idea since I haven't gotten a block on my 3930k since the 25th. Luck tends to be that way anyway... I got one a day for three days and then an orphan - nothing else after that cpu mining. It just worked out that way... Look at those xpm prices tonight... they went up from .006 this morning to .01 at a peak tonight - back down to .008 now.... On which exchange did XPM hit 0.01? I'm going to slap myself if I missed out lol It hit a high on cryptsy at 0.009949. Close enough... -tb-
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August 07, 2013, 09:28:01 AM |
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Donations ≠ payment
If you sent money to him, you did it out the kindness of your own heart. It's cringeworthy if you expect him to make software for you just so you can get rich, and expect him to work on it 24/7.
That's not quite what is going on here. By donating you are getting early access to the GPU miner, as stated in the OP. Therefore, I would call it a payment. It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once. Edit (didn't finish my thought): It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once and you were sending him BTC for encouragement. Getting access to the beta is like a gift for your donation as well as having a limited number of people work out any bugs that are present in the software before releasing it into the public.He stated that donators will get to use the GPU miner before the general public, so unless he decides to release it to everyone at once, then he isn't scamming anyone. Give him a few more days. I'm sure he'll finish it soon. +1
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August 07, 2013, 11:39:02 AM |
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Donations ≠ payment
If you sent money to him, you did it out the kindness of your own heart. It's cringeworthy if you expect him to make software for you just so you can get rich, and expect him to work on it 24/7.
That's not quite what is going on here. By donating you are getting early access to the GPU miner, as stated in the OP. Therefore, I would call it a payment. It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once. Edit (didn't finish my thought): It would be a donation if he open sourced it to everyone at once and you were sending him BTC for encouragement. Getting access to the beta is like a gift for your donation as well as having a limited number of people work out any bugs that are present in the software before releasing it into the public. He stated that donators will get to use the GPU miner before the general public, so unless he decides to release it to everyone at once, then he isn't scamming anyone. Give him a few more days. I'm sure he'll finish it soon. I'm not saying that it's a scam, I'm saying that it's a payment and not a donation. When you make a donation (say to the EFF: https://supporters.eff.org/donate) you aren't (or shouldn't be) expecting anything directly in return. In this case you are (early access to the miner), thus it's a payment. But in either case, I'm sure that OP will eventually deliver.
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August 07, 2013, 12:23:13 PM |
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so a gpu miner has been released for XPM but not posted in this thread?
Possibly a hoax with virus?
Think twice before you say something. Maybe you should do the same before posting worthless comments. :-D Maybe. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You should wrote: so a gpu miner has been released for XPM, but not by mtrlt?
Possibly a hoax with virus?
highly unlikely, if you know of someone else making it why dont you help out the community and post sources?
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August 07, 2013, 01:05:02 PM |
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I'm not saying that it's a scam, I'm saying that it's a payment and not a donation. When you make a donation (say to the EFF: https://supporters.eff.org/donate) you aren't (or shouldn't be) expecting anything directly in return. In this case you are (early access to the miner), thus it's a payment. But in either case, I'm sure that OP will eventually deliver. Not sure I agree. You can donate to a software developer and in return he removes an unobtrusive nag screen from your licensed copy. It's called Donationware, and it has legitimate legal recognition as an extension to a software license. You're donating to receive X, but I think the assumption is that you accept the status-quo if you don't receive X. Kickstarter/Indiegogo's "rewards" tiers are an offshoot of this.
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August 07, 2013, 04:10:09 PM |
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I am officially taking donations of BTC.
Could you all please donate to me out of the kindness of your heart? Remember these are only donations. Therefore, you are not purchasing anything, nor will you receive anything; because that is not what it means to donate!
It seems the people of these forums are quite generous in giving! I was hoping that you all could be so generous as to spread the wealth with me as well!
Thank you for your time, your generosity means the world to me!
Please send all donations to : 1CafRoU8Samr9f8aMdcq2XSMYxeq2bykCG
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August 07, 2013, 05:01:01 PM |
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I am officially taking donations of BTC.
Could you all please donate to me out of the kindness of your heart? Remember these are only donations. Therefore, you are not purchasing anything, nor will you receive anything; because that is not what it means to donate!
It seems the people of these forums are quite generous in giving! I was hoping that you all could be so generous as to spread the wealth with me as well!
Thank you for your time, your generosity means the world to me!
Please send all donations to : 1CafRoU8Samr9f8aMdcq2XSMYxeq2bykCG
This discussion has already been beaten to death. Yes it's a risk, he has a good reputation, a few thousand dollars ins't much compared to what professional developers get paid, he will most likely put a lot of time into all the work/maintenance on the miner, etc...
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August 07, 2013, 05:19:40 PM |
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I am officially taking donations of BTC.
Could you all please donate to me out of the kindness of your heart? Remember these are only donations. Therefore, you are not purchasing anything, nor will you receive anything; because that is not what it means to donate!
It seems the people of these forums are quite generous in giving! I was hoping that you all could be so generous as to spread the wealth with me as well!
Thank you for your time, your generosity means the world to me!
Please send all donations to : 1CafRoU8Samr9f8aMdcq2XSMYxeq2bykCG
This discussion has already been beaten to death. Yes it's a risk, he has a good reputation, a few thousand dollars ins't much compared to what professional developers get paid, he will most likely put a lot of time into all the work/maintenance on the miner, etc... I agree. Please know that donating to me is much less of a risk! I assure you, all of your donations will not be wasted! Please Donate!
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