MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted

[JackpotRacer]

I am glad you started this thread, i had asked questions in the past and the only thing it got me was 2 emails saying my ppst was deleted. Now are we going to get some straight answers as to what is going to happen to funds that are gone. We need some proof like yahoo has asked several times please.

All players balances should be available as of now. If you are running into issues getting support using the support email address for MoneyPot, please don't hesitate to PM me and I'll have someone look into things ASAP.

As for the rest of the folks here, give the new team some time to ensure this transition finalizes. Granted, it was not the smoothest past week, but I do think things are getting under control and you as players (and site operators) will see a benefit very soon.

thx for posting here

please tell us who is the new team and please dont tell us it is Monster Byte and Moneypot. when will the transition as you call it be done?

[BTCevo]

All players balances should be available as of now. If you are running into issues getting support using the support email address for MoneyPot, please don't hesitate to PM me and I'll have someone look into things ASAP.

As for the rest of the folks here, give the new team some time to ensure this transition finalizes. Granted, it was not the smoothest past week, but I do think things are getting under control and you as players (and site operators) will see a benefit very soon.

Usually they do not reply it or may be reply it after long time of questions, I have faced this so many times here. And btw you said it was under control but I see nothing change except the site design, deposit and withdrawal, and may be your investment programs, others than that is not to be done yet. You should really consider about your rbies v2

[ICO Police]

I am glad you started this thread, i had asked questions in the past and the only thing it got me was 2 emails saying my ppst was deleted. Now are we going to get some straight answers as to what is going to happen to funds that are gone. We need some proof like yahoo has asked several times please.

All players balances should be available as of now. If you are running into issues getting support using the support email address for MoneyPot, please don't hesitate to PM me and I'll have someone look into things ASAP.

As for the rest of the folks here, give the new team some time to ensure this transition finalizes. Granted, it was not the smoothest past week, but I do think things are getting under control and you as players (and site operators) will see a benefit very soon.

Everyone already knows that monsterbyte would fuck up a cup of coffee, let alone a new acquisition.  

Everyone should expect delays, piss poor service and generic replies.

I feel horrible for anyone who has coin on MoneyPot and now has to deal with MonsterByte dopes!

[JackpotRacer]

very interesting timing to delete my postings. moneypot announced right now

Continued transition and changes to Moneypot:

This is a reminder to all Moneypot and Moneypot legacy users to review all changes made to the new Moneypot powered by MonsterByte site and to also make sure they transfer or withdraw their balance from withdraw.moneypot.com if they had an available balance.  All transfers initiated through this process have been filled, save for a few larger ones that pended review.  These will completed within the following week.  At the end of this month, Moneypot will post a full proof of reserves for all funds invested and transferred onto Moneypot: powered by MonsterByte.



Debt Token Announcement:

Before the period of Decemeber 2016, Moneypot legacy underwent some big winners of the house bankroll.  As a good will gesture, Moneypot legacy offered and agreed to compensate users out of pocket for users who contributed to the house bankroll who were negatively affected by this.

Back on December 17,2016 , DogeDigital announced:
"Current day and previous investors will be credited so that they were in profit of at least their investment plus a bonus that equates to approximately 6% roi a year based on time invested going backward from today.  This will be credited over the next year from future earnings both from the current moneypot platform and other moneypot revenue streams.  Snapshots are taken from today.  However, going forward from today, there will be no extra credit."

He further explained:
"Over the next year. We will be distributing partial income towards crediting investors.  Cant give an estimate on completed time, but the faster income we make the faster we can give it back to our investors.  "

Unfortunately, during that time, there were quite a few setbacks.  While Moneypot was unable to start payments within that time period, the plan is still to compensate users from December 17,2016 past with partial income.

These users are invited to soon log-in to their Moneypot account at withdraw.Moneypot.com and opt-in for the buyback program (not yet active).  After opting in, users will be able to state a personal Waves address to be sent the specialized Moneypot debt token to.   This will allow Moneypot legacy to make the proper calculations and send the appropriate amounts to user's Waves accounts after the first period of collections (30 days). 

After the first period is conducted, the tokens will be sent to all that opted in.  A new opt-in period will continue for another 30 days with re-issued tokens sent upon completion.  A final period of 30 days will follow.
Once the final period has elapsed, all remaining supply of tokens will be burned so that no more can be re-issued. 

Each debt token will represent 1 Bit in debt token value.  Moneypot legacy will make bi-weekly (fortnightly) buy orders of 1 Bit per Debt token with partial income and burn all tokens bought . All buy orders will be made through the Debt token order book market which will determine which sell orders are filled first.  This process will continue until there are no standing sell orders left at 1 Bit per debt token. 

We will try to keep the public updated on the matter as things progress and post burn reports for transparency.

For any questions or assistance on these matters or any others, please contact Support@Moneypot.com.


a lot of talking and promises as always

following the deleted postings

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Quote from: maidenvoyage on January 20, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: dooglus on January 17, 2018, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: Dogedigital on January 17, 2018, 03:20:17 AM
I believe it was answered here.  Trying to get all the details worked out so we can announce as soon as possible. 

I feel like this is a setup/trap trying to re-hash it all, but it was me that announced the floor.

I saw you announce it, but I'm asking which entity actually made the promise, if any. Was it you, acting on behalf of MoneyPot? Or were you saying stuff that wasn't actually MoneyPot policy?
It does not really matter, because whoever stated the floor, was clearly in a position of speaking for Moneypot..
Thats why, when you run a company.. you watch carefully whom you leave in charge.

Moneypot has fouled up with loosing for its investors wherever you look. On the bankroll they managed to loose in such a collosal way, that there must have been some stealing involved. They did not pay out the Bitcoin Cash that they held, they did not honour the Rubies promise, they do not pay back their bankroll holders now. We have to end this whole charade!

very well worded because it is always easy to point out the truth

please explain how it would look like "We have to end this whole charade!"

how about red trust from some trusted members? at least to save some other peoples coins?

thx in any case for the posting

2)
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

Quote

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?


no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

3)
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 13, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 13, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

Quote

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?


no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

Let's make a bet then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'll offer 10x odds for you (infinite times greater than "never", so you're getting a great deal) that they'll sort things out. Deal?  Tongue

hey bigmouth

we need to put all details down for this bet. then we have a bet but not before. you need to define what you understand under : they'll sort things out"

what things you mean? Investors compensations? RBIES Floor?

4)
Quote from: DarkDays on January 13, 2018, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 13, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 13, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

Quote

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?


no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

Let's make a bet then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'll offer 10x odds for you (infinite times greater than "never", so you're getting a great deal) that they'll sort things out. Deal?  Tongue

Don't forget to use an escrow.  JPR has a history of taking money and not returning it...

Escrow is a must and there is only one acceptable Escrow namely Dogedigital

5)
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM


/s? I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM
Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers

6)
Quote from: dooglus on January 11, 2018, 08:15:04 AM
Quote from: Dogedigital on January 09, 2018, 09:11:42 PM
The previous MoneyPot team consisted of myself, AcoinLLC, and Ranlo. Ranlo is no longer involved with MoneyPot moving forward, AcoinLLC and myself will be working alongside Monster Byte and their resources to not only transition MoneyPot over to them, but will also assist them in transforming and advancing MoneyPot based on their vision, roadmap, and financial resources.

Who was it that made the promise of a permanent floor on the price of rubies? Was that the previous MoneyPot team as a whole, or one specific individual? It seems to me like some entity has shown themselves to be entirely untrustworthy over that incident, but it's unclear who it was.

Have Monster Byte assumed responsibility for losses incurred due to the broken promise? Or does that remain with the old team, or a specific member of that team?

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

7)
Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 08:39:11 AM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM


/s? I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM
Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers  Grin
How much for it? Tongue
Also, if someone buys it then does it mean that you won't be whining on this thread anymore?

how much? you as a MP Fan need to offer me xxx because you believe in MP that they keep all promises and they are solvent. I will open an own thread for this matter


Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 08:39:11 AM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM


/s? I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM
Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers  Grin
How much for it? Tongue
Also, if someone buys it then does it mean that you won't be whining on this thread anymore?

how much? you as a MP Fan need to offer me xxx because you believe in MP that they keep all promises and they are solvent. I will open an own thread for this matter
You're the one doing this right?
Besides, I might not have the btc but someone else might so if you state an offer, others could also accept it

no one needs to buy all 4 BTC. we can split it in small amounts and maybe you as a MP believer can participate and earn a nice profit

[JackpotRacer]

please read RHavar's posting. I paste it in here before it gets deleted

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345394.msg29549547#msg29549547

If you read their announcement carefully, it seems like they are trying to weasel out of their debt by not honoring some of it (i.e. rubies) and then making the rest owed by  "moneypot legacy" (which presumedly refers to the old owners?). I really hope it's not the case, as transferring/selling all the assets of a company and then leaving the liabilities now owned a now empty shell company, is a pretty text-book example of corporate fraud. So it would be nice if MoneyPot would actually provide some real confirmation on what is going on, and it's commitment to honor it's obligations.

you can read in MP thread the answer from MP = a shame

[B_UN1T]

JPR post #26 is very hard to read . Have done the work for you. Now lets read it again
Why not add a [ quote ] , [ / quote  ]

1)
Quote from: maidenvoyage on January 20, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: dooglus on January 17, 2018, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: Dogedigital on January 17, 2018, 03:20:17 AM

I believe it was answered here.  Trying to get all the details worked out so we can announce as soon as possible.

I feel like this is a setup/trap trying to re-hash it all, but it was me that announced the floor.

I saw you announce it, but I'm asking which entity actually made the promise, if any. Was it you, acting on behalf of MoneyPot? Or were you saying stuff that wasn't actually MoneyPot policy?
It does not really matter, because whoever stated the floor, was clearly in a position of speaking for Moneypot..
Thats why, when you run a company.. you watch carefully whom you leave in charge.

Moneypot has fouled up with loosing for its investors wherever you look. On the bankroll they managed to loose in such a collosal way, that there must have been some stealing involved. They did not pay out the Bitcoin Cash that they held, they did not honour the Rubies promise, they do not pay back their bankroll holders now. We have to end this whole charade!

very well worded because it is always easy to point out the truth

please explain how it would look like "We have to end this whole charade!"

how about red trust from some trusted members? at least to save some other peoples coins?

thx in any case for the posting

2)
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?


no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

3)
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 13, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 13, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?

no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

Let's make a bet then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'll offer 10x odds for you (infinite times greater than "never", so you're getting a great deal) that they'll sort things out. Deal?  Tongue

hey bigmouth

we need to put all details down for this bet. then we have a bet but not before. you need to define what you understand under : they'll sort things out"

what things you mean? Investors compensations? RBIES Floor?

4)
Quote from: DarkDays on January 13, 2018, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 13, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 13, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: jpcfan on January 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

what are you going to do with your life when mp sorts out everything?


no one to whine to anymore.

hey cute penis

MP will never sort out everything

Let's make a bet then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'll offer 10x odds for you (infinite times greater than "never", so you're getting a great deal) that they'll sort things out. Deal?  Tongue

Don't forget to use an escrow.  JPR has a history of taking money and not returning it...

Escrow is a must and there is only one acceptable Escrow namely Dogedigital

5)
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM

I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM

Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers

6)
Quote from: dooglus on January 11, 2018, 08:15:04 AM
Quote from: Dogedigital on January 09, 2018, 09:11:42 PM

The previous MoneyPot team consisted of myself, AcoinLLC, and Ranlo. Ranlo is no longer involved with MoneyPot moving forward, AcoinLLC and myself will be working alongside Monster Byte and their resources to not only transition MoneyPot over to them, but will also assist them in transforming and advancing MoneyPot based on their vision, roadmap, and financial resources.

Who was it that made the promise of a permanent floor on the price of rubies? Was that the previous MoneyPot team as a whole, or one specific individual? It seems to me like some entity has shown themselves to be entirely untrustworthy over that incident, but it's unclear who it was.

Have Monster Byte assumed responsibility for losses incurred due to the broken promise? Or does that remain with the old team, or a specific member of that team?

I thought I will bring this posting/question up before it will not be seen

sure you can delete my message but we would like to see an answer

7)
Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 08:39:11 AM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM

I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM

Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers  Grin
How much for it? Tongue
Also, if someone buys it then does it mean that you won't be whining on this thread anymore?

how much? you as a MP Fan need to offer me xxx because you believe in MP that they keep all promises and they are solvent. I will open an own thread for this matter

Cool


Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: gapjustin on January 15, 2018, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on January 15, 2018, 08:39:11 AM
Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2018, 01:01:31 AM

I'm actually going to retract my offer though, as a bet would likely tie up my BTC for a few months, which I don't want happening.

Quote from: dvillier on January 14, 2018, 06:58:14 AM

Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

I don't think it's stupid to trust that their dealing with it. Seems like they are taking a long time to do it though, which is disappointing.

fair enough that you admit it could last a few month and it is already very long ago that they promised they compensation

exactly this is the way they are dealing with it. they way to win time and more time

this is giving me an idea of a contest with the question:
when will MP compensate the Investors losses as promised? the one who will hit the date will get a nice Price like maybe 1 BTC  Grin

please let me think a bit to find a good way to do this contest. ideas for the contest  are welcome

edit
@DarkStar_ and all who believe that MP will compensate as promised are welcome to buy the 4 BTC compensation from me. best profit opportunity for you MP believers  Grin
How much for it? Tongue
Also, if someone buys it then does it mean that you won't be whining on this thread anymore?

how much? you as a MP Fan need to offer me xxx because you believe in MP that they keep all promises and they are solvent. I will open an own thread for this matter
You're the one doing this right?
Besides, I might not have the btc but someone else might so if you state an offer, others could also accept it

no one needs to buy all 4 BTC. we can split it in small amounts and maybe you as a MP believer can participate and earn a nice profit

[JackpotRacer]

Hi B_UNIT

thx for trying to bring my posting in order

how are you? hope you are doing good. if you could code I would offer you partnership to our casino ( not yet life )

JPR

[B_UN1T]

Hi B_UNIT

thx for trying to bring my posting in order

how are you? hope you are doing good. if you could code I would offer you partnership to our casino ( not yet life )

JPR

Hey JPR,

all fine on my side. Havent pay much attention lately on the mp drama. Good i stop playing there is my feeling atm.

I need to say sorry to your offer. I only do a little copy & past if needed.

[JackpotRacer]

Please explain why would Moneypot delete the following question

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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Quote from: Dogedigital on Today at 04:47:14 PM
Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

All of the other players and investors with available balances in Moneypot are being paid out and all announcements made are on track to come into fruition.

what did MP do with Maidenvoyage's 100 BTC

I am asking MP owners what did you do with the 100 BTC you owe Maidenvoyage?

[RHavar]

For reference, here was my post that was deleted:

Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

Ok, fair enough. So let me try establish what has been made public:

* maidenvoyage deposits ~143 bitcoin
* maidenvoyage wants to withdraw
* maidenvoyage is asked to, and agrees to sign an NDA
* maidenvoyage is not able to withdraw
* moneypot will not discuss, citing the NDA

Is this correct? Or am I missing something?


So obviously the full story hasn't been made public, but looks incredibly incriminating on the surface. Especially combined with previously moneypot's recent decision to arbitrarily void it's agreement to buy back rubies.


As it's obvious that maidenvoyage wants to talk publicly and get his money back, would you be willing to suspend the NDA if maidenvoyage also agrees to do so?

I don't really think it's reasonable for them to delete my post and pretend it doesn't exist, so I've left them some trust feedback to make it visible.

[JackpotRacer]

For reference, here was my post that was deleted:

Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

Ok, fair enough. So let me try establish what has been made public:

* maidenvoyage deposits ~143 bitcoin
* maidenvoyage wants to withdraw
* maidenvoyage is asked to, and agrees to sign an NDA
* maidenvoyage is not able to withdraw
* moneypot will not discuss, citing the NDA

Is this correct? Or am I missing something?


So obviously the full story hasn't been made public, but looks incredibly incriminating on the surface. Especially combined with previously moneypot's recent decision to arbitrarily void it's agreement to buy back rubies.


As it's obvious that maidenvoyage wants to talk publicly and get his money back, would you be willing to suspend the NDA if maidenvoyage also agrees to do so?

I don't really think it's reasonable for them to delete my post and pretend it doesn't exist, so I've left them some trust feedback to make it visible.

stupid move to delete even your legit questions because if they do it with Jackpotracer's postings people will say ok he is anyway the crazy one but to delete your legit postings is more than stupid and actually is showing their real face namely scammers.

I really appreciate that users like you are starting to give them red trust. it is high time to stop them to cheat fine Investors.

they moment MP will show the cards on the table and be Transparent this is the moment to start trusting them again. sadly they dont understand that this is a must to do

[JackpotRacer]

For reference, here was my post that was deleted:

Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

Ok, fair enough. So let me try establish what has been made public:

* maidenvoyage deposits ~143 bitcoin
* maidenvoyage wants to withdraw
* maidenvoyage is asked to, and agrees to sign an NDA
* maidenvoyage is not able to withdraw
* moneypot will not discuss, citing the NDA

Is this correct? Or am I missing something?


So obviously the full story hasn't been made public, but looks incredibly incriminating on the surface. Especially combined with previously moneypot's recent decision to arbitrarily void it's agreement to buy back rubies.


As it's obvious that maidenvoyage wants to talk publicly and get his money back, would you be willing to suspend the NDA if maidenvoyage also agrees to do so?

I don't really think it's reasonable for them to delete my post and pretend it doesn't exist, so I've left them some trust feedback to make it visible.

It wasn't deleted to be hidden.  The thread clearly stated not to speculate and you did anyways.   It needs to be dealt with by the appropriate channels and you are directly interfering by posting there... speculating.

It was stated multiple times that we cannot go into full details.  There are reasons why.  It is not a simple solution as you seem to believe.

your post will not be deleted here

in short BS

you should start to be TRANSPARENT!!!

you never will go in full details because you are scamming us Investors and RBIES holders

you deleted legit questions!!!

[JackpotRacer]

For reference, here was my post that was deleted:

Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

Ok, fair enough. So let me try establish what has been made public:

* maidenvoyage deposits ~143 bitcoin
* maidenvoyage wants to withdraw
* maidenvoyage is asked to, and agrees to sign an NDA
* maidenvoyage is not able to withdraw
* moneypot will not discuss, citing the NDA

Is this correct? Or am I missing something?


So obviously the full story hasn't been made public, but looks incredibly incriminating on the surface. Especially combined with previously moneypot's recent decision to arbitrarily void it's agreement to buy back rubies.


As it's obvious that maidenvoyage wants to talk publicly and get his money back, would you be willing to suspend the NDA if maidenvoyage also agrees to do so?

I don't really think it's reasonable for them to delete my post and pretend it doesn't exist, so I've left them some trust feedback to make it visible.

It wasn't deleted to be hidden.  The thread clearly stated not to speculate and you did anyways.   It needs to be dealt with by the appropriate channels and you are directly interfering by posting there... speculating.

It was stated multiple times that we cannot go into full details.  There are reasons why.  It is not a simple solution as you seem to believe.

your post will not be deleted here

in short BS

you should start to be TRANSPARENT!!!

you never will go in full details because you are scamming us Investors and RBIES holders

you deleted legit questions!!!

The reasons were always stated why they were deleted.

It was also explained that there are forces preventing from releasing details.  When these forces are no longer in effect and there is nothing preventing us from doing so, we will. 

do you really think that we are all stupid like shit?

only Scammers are talking like you! get real!

[JackpotRacer]

For reference, here was my post that was deleted:

Being bound by an NDA means that you're explicitly not allowed to reveal all the details.

Ok, fair enough. So let me try establish what has been made public:

* maidenvoyage deposits ~143 bitcoin
* maidenvoyage wants to withdraw
* maidenvoyage is asked to, and agrees to sign an NDA
* maidenvoyage is not able to withdraw
* moneypot will not discuss, citing the NDA

Is this correct? Or am I missing something?


So obviously the full story hasn't been made public, but looks incredibly incriminating on the surface. Especially combined with previously moneypot's recent decision to arbitrarily void it's agreement to buy back rubies.


As it's obvious that maidenvoyage wants to talk publicly and get his money back, would you be willing to suspend the NDA if maidenvoyage also agrees to do so?

I don't really think it's reasonable for them to delete my post and pretend it doesn't exist, so I've left them some trust feedback to make it visible.

It wasn't deleted to be hidden.  The thread clearly stated not to speculate and you did anyways.   It needs to be dealt with by the appropriate channels and you are directly interfering by posting there... speculating.

It was stated multiple times that we cannot go into full details.  There are reasons why.  It is not a simple solution as you seem to believe.

your post will not be deleted here

in short BS

you should start to be TRANSPARENT!!!

you never will go in full details because you are scamming us Investors and RBIES holders

you deleted legit questions!!!

The reasons were always stated why they were deleted.

It was also explained that there are forces preventing from releasing details.  When these forces are no longer in effect and there is nothing preventing us from doing so, we will. 

do you really think that we are all stupid like shit?

only Scammers are talking like you! get real!

Please stop deflecting.  I am providing reason to the situations and explaining why things are happening. 

unacceptable reasons!

you are coming over here discussing questions and postings that you dictator deleted in your thread!!!

isnt that showing your real face? yes it is!

many more should give you guys red trust and stop you to scam fine people here

[DarkDays]

My post was also deleted, and the PM I received said it was for "speculation". 

The problem is that my post, much like Ryan's (which I didn't see because I assume it was deleted as soon as he posted it, much like mine was), wasn't speculative at all.  It was simply stating the facts, as they had been laid out by MP, in a straightforward way. 

Here is the deleted post:

So just to be clear: MP owes Maiden 100BTC (nearly a million dollars) and has not paid him/her?  This is money that wasn't lost, but was held in the bankroll?

If this is true, than the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that MP is, in fact, insolvent.  You held money that you can not return.  This isn't debt, this is bankroll funds.  If you've owed this money for a long time and have put off payment it looks really, really bad.

[michkima]

Real good stuff here, been watching this thread ever since it was created. Now my question is, with all these proof and accusations against MP, why hasn't anyone really gone to the scam accusation section and has tagged these guys with much red? Not sure if there was already a SA on them, but only RHavar has tagged them for their activities.

[JackpotRacer]

Real good stuff here, been watching this thread ever since it was created. Now my question is, with all these proof and accusations against MP, why hasn't anyone really gone to the scam accusation section and has tagged these guys with much red? Not sure if there was already a SA on them, but only RHavar has tagged them for their activities.

thx for posting

here are my scam accusations long ago

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2207833.msg22227934#msg22227934

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg21829632#msg21829632

I gave MP owners red trust long ago and sadly only now RHavar started to give them red trust also

as for now I will repeat myself and shout out that MP owners are Scammers

[michkima]

Real good stuff here, been watching this thread ever since it was created. Now my question is, with all these proof and accusations against MP, why hasn't anyone really gone to the scam accusation section and has tagged these guys with much red? Not sure if there was already a SA on them, but only RHavar has tagged them for their activities.

thx for posting

here are my scam accusations long ago

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2207833.msg22227934#msg22227934

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg21829632#msg21829632

I gave MP owners red trust long ago and sadly only now RHavar started to give them red trust also

as for now I will repeat myself and shout out that MP owners are Scammers

Well, guess it's the downfall of MP now. I don't think with these kinds of news and reputation about them, anyone investing with them will think twice before they do. Especially with the case maidenvoyage who was not given back the 143 BTC he invested, that is something to be wary about. I do hope that more DT members would realize that these guys from MP aren't doing so well in managing their operations.

[JackpotRacer]

Real good stuff here, been watching this thread ever since it was created. Now my question is, with all these proof and accusations against MP, why hasn't anyone really gone to the scam accusation section and has tagged these guys with much red? Not sure if there was already a SA on them, but only RHavar has tagged them for their activities.

thx for posting

here are my scam accusations long ago

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2207833.msg22227934#msg22227934

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg21829632#msg21829632

I gave MP owners red trust long ago and sadly only now RHavar started to give them red trust also

as for now I will repeat myself and shout out that MP owners are Scammers

Well, guess it's the downfall of MP now. I don't think with these kinds of news and reputation about them, anyone investing with them will think twice before they do. Especially with the case maidenvoyage who was not given back the 143 BTC he invested, that is something to be wary about. I do hope that more DT members would realize that these guys from MP aren't doing so well in managing their operations.

not sure if you know that MP owners sold MP business to Monsterbyte but kept the debts and promises they gave to investors and RBIES holders and promised ( as always empty promises) to pay all debts and promises. I dont believe them

[DarkDays]

Another post got deleted.  This one merely quoted two things that DD had just said.

This is getting weird.

from: Dogedigital on February 04, 2018, 07:45:44 PM

from: DarkDays on February 04, 2018, 07:40:07 PM
The following statement is an assertion of fact and in no way, shape, or form should be considered speculation:

If a company solicits investments, and then does not pay an investor or investors when they divest, that is very bad. 

I believe your opinion is correct. 

It shouldn't be speculated that this situation happened here however.

Yet you JUST SAID:

"All of the other players and investors with available balances in Moneypot are being paid out"

"Other"

So someone isn't being paid out.

Again, this is not speculation.  You said that if a company doesn't pay an investor when he/she divests, it's a bad company, and you also said that you aren't paying out an investor.