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July 20, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/TSMC-says-its-supply-of-28nm-chips-continues-to-be-low_id4007728NM process demand is highly exceeding its supply all over the world. The news above just a typical example ,for further information you can google it. However, Is anyone still dreaming that those ASIC mining rigs companies can get its 28NM standard chips into production? If you still believing that those small ASICs Mining rigs companies can do it ...then you are delusional and too naive...you are setting fire on your BTC investment. anyone invest your BTC relate with this 28NM concept, I can fairly say that before 22NM become mainstream , you won't see anything return from your current investment, The time wasting could be a year or couple of years. Asking you self , what makes you think those manufactures will gives up big quantity of orders which come from APPLE or Nvidia ,instead to producing those small scale of order from ASICs mining rigs companies?
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yuchuanzhen
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July 20, 2013, 03:10:53 AM |
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KNC&&AMC
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Tip:17YxKtDNYWjkhPYTKieh4xSGuyAfL4kJ5o
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ArcticWolf
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July 20, 2013, 03:13:57 AM |
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KNC&&AMC
Yep both making their own chips for new machines  |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 03:14:09 AM |
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KNC&&AMC
People rich, too naive, come quick to cheat on them.... |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 03:15:59 AM |
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KNC&&AMC
Yep both making their own chips for new machines I hope their hand job can catching up with the demand..... |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 10:55:14 AM |
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Only see eAsic using 45nm for its own product.where have you seen it has 28nm infrastructure ? |
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worldinacoin
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July 20, 2013, 11:00:54 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
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Meizirkki
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July 20, 2013, 11:07:21 AM |
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Smells like lulz  |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 11:11:52 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. |
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Mota
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July 20, 2013, 11:20:17 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... |
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Meizirkki
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July 20, 2013, 11:22:50 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... damn it! You're ruining all the fun  |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 11:26:20 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... You assuming that situation is changed ,so just let it be. I won't invest any of my BTC related with this 28nm conceptual product. However ,go google it or write a email to ask those very few companies have 28nm process facilities. Semiconductor industrial isn't like other manufacture,the cost of producing new 28nm product is far beyond those small ASICs mining companies' affordability. |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 11:31:59 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... when I am free ,I can google out more evidences for you. Please,Be realistic . |
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Mota
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July 20, 2013, 11:37:06 AM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... You assuming that situation is changed ,so just let it be. I won't invest any of my BTC related with this 28nm conceptual product. However ,go google it or write a email to ask those very few companies have 28nm process facilities. Semiconductor industrial isn't like other manufacture,the cost of producing new 28nm product is far beyond those small ASICs mining companies' affordability. Affordability? Are you kidding me? They have more than 4 million in preorder money... "small" does not mean they can't afford it. Google is/was a "small" company and look at their revenues before even going for the stockmarket... Also: Doubleposting? Really? Why Edit if you can make your postcount rise... |
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July 20, 2013, 11:38:47 AM |
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So do you think 4 millions is something?  |
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July 20, 2013, 11:40:02 AM |
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So do you think 4 millions is something? It's enough. They stated it before somewhere, dunno where exactly. But if you look at the pricing for 28nm 2,8 million is the minimum you should have... |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 11:46:04 AM |
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So do you think 4 millions is something? ?? ? 28nm process production line is something worth more than billion dollar . Orders from those GPU and mobile devices is a incredible amount. There are only few companies in the world have the infrastructure to producing it. U think that compare those giant companies with ASICs mining companies who will get served? 4 millions isn't attractive amount for them, this what I considered . |
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July 20, 2013, 01:15:09 PM |
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Only see eAsic using 45nm for its own product.where have you seen it has 28nm infrastructure ? Splattered on their front page news... C'mon, at least do your homework... |
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titomane
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July 20, 2013, 01:19:17 PM |
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So do you think 4 millions is something? ?? ? 28nm process production line is something worth more than billion dollar . Orders from those GPU and mobile devices is a incredible amount. There are only few companies in the world have the infrastructure to producing it. U think that compare those giant companies with ASICs mining companies who will get served? 4 millions isn't attractive amount for them, this what I considered . I seemed to understand they were using Altera Hardcopy. KNC not who makes the request to TSMC, GlobalFoundries etc ... Knc places an order Altera . Make hardcopy their FPGA. Altera is about to present its catalog with 22nm (posible foundries INTEL & TSMC) |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 01:58:35 PM |
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Only see eAsic using 45nm for its own product.where have you seen it has 28nm infrastructure ? Splattered on their front page news... C'mon, at least do your homework... Again,which news? I used internal search isn't finding anything related to 28nm.  |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 02:05:19 PM |
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So do you think 4 millions is something? ?? ? 28nm process production line is something worth more than billion dollar . Orders from those GPU and mobile devices is a incredible amount. There are only few companies in the world have the infrastructure to producing it. U think that compare those giant companies with ASICs mining companies who will get served? 4 millions isn't attractive amount for them, this what I considered . I seemed to understand they were using Altera Hardcopy. KNC not who makes the request to TSMC, GlobalFoundries etc ... Knc places an order Altera . Make hardcopy their FPGA. Altera is about to present its catalog with 22nm (posible foundries INTEL & TSMC) I am not going to specific which companies,but I mean folks better be aware of this situation. |
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July 20, 2013, 04:49:24 PM |
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I remembered some statements that ActM will conduct a combinations of 65nm, 40nm and 28nm products. Right?
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 06:05:58 PM |
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This is ridiculous,
Thread is pure FUD, anyone reading that article knows that Bitcoin ASICS represent less than .1% of all the chips these foundries would make.
This particular foundry said they have close to 100% market share simply because Apple is on board with them.
Go home OP your drunk.
Be prudent is always a better choice than taking risk. Those ASICs companies said they will going to delivering its chips on October 2013,we will find out by that time,whether I am worry too much or investors being ripped. Seems people are so essay to forgot what BFL did with them. If you wish take the risk,that is your choice,but what I do is providing some information only . Make you own judegement,no one will help you if you get played |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 20, 2013, 06:10:38 PM |
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I remembered some statements that ActM will conduct a combinations of 65nm, 40nm and 28nm products. Right?
Do not know about AMC,I just mean that demand of 28nm process is highly exceeding its supply all over the world. I do not want to get involved in any thing like I am going to attacking other's business' goodwill. What I do is providing more information for investors to deriving its own judegement. Regard |
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joeventura
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July 20, 2013, 06:47:32 PM |
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From what I know TSMC's yield on 28nm is an industry high, i the supply remains low, I guess it is the demand is far more than what their foundries can produce. It takes a long time to be able to ramp up production on such wafer plants.
Those Lucky investors will be burned like real cat on the pan. Wow. Posting a 5 months old article here and trying to scare people away from investing so you can get more out of it? Geez, sometimes I feel like this forum is worse than Kindergarten... You assuming that situation is changed ,so just let it be. I won't invest any of my BTC related with this 28nm conceptual product. However ,go google it or write a email to ask those very few companies have 28nm process facilities. Semiconductor industrial isn't like other manufacture,the cost of producing new 28nm product is far beyond those small ASICs mining companies' affordability. Your're pushing the shovel too far up the tree if you want the chicken to cross the road without getting a case of athletes foot!! |
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greaterninja
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July 20, 2013, 07:09:04 PM |
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Tsmc will most likely come to us as they are a partner.
I think many of you fail to realize that even an order of 1 million asic chips is very small for us. We do revenue in the millions of USD per day.
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minternj
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July 20, 2013, 07:24:39 PM |
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Tsmc will most likely come to us as they are a partner.
I think many of you fail to realize that even an order of 1 million asic chips is very small for us. We do revenue in the millions of USD per day.
Who's "us" and "we"? |
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Vbs
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July 20, 2013, 09:06:08 PM |
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Only see eAsic using 45nm for its own product.where have you seen it has 28nm infrastructure ? Splattered on their front page news... C'mon, at least do your homework... Again,which news? I used internal search isn't finding anything related to 28nm. The info is still under wraps for the general public. |
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TheSwede75
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July 21, 2013, 12:04:49 AM |
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More fun to point out blatant lies in their ads and website in my opinion. "Worlds first upgradeable bitcoin miner" . . Yeah. . If you don't count FPGA, AVALON or any DYI projects.. |
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TheSwede75
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July 21, 2013, 12:06:04 AM |
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Only see eAsic using 45nm for its own product.where have you seen it has 28nm infrastructure ? Splattered on their front page news... C'mon, at least do your homework... Again,which news? I used internal search isn't finding anything related to 28nm. The info is still under wraps for the general public. Pre-registration and production... Obviously same thing.. |
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SOSLOVE868 (OP)
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July 22, 2013, 01:37:01 AM |
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Pre-registration and production... Obviously same thing..
what ? its same thing??? |
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