Newbie notification

[mrtrueman]

Hi All,

Just a quick note to admins, it took me a couple of visits before I realized why I could not post or reply.

I thought my profile was faulty.

I think it would be handy for some extra notification to the fact you have no permissions etc.  I have used lots of forums but the whole newbie thing here is not that obvious really.

Regards

Mr T

[mrtrueman]

Maybe a banner at the top of the page....I have seen this on other forums

[RangerTwentyTwo]

Indeed, it took me ages to figure it out, I finally found this forum and noticed that I could post here... 

[DannyHamilton]

I'm generally inclined to believe that if a person doesn't see this message clearly placed in front of them when they create an account, then they aren't likely to see any other similar message placed in front of them regardless of how it's done:

English

RESTRICTIONS FOR NEW MEMBERS

After registering, you will be unable to post in any section except "newbies" until you have spent some time on the forum and have published a few posts.

If you are registering to ask a question, please ask it in the newbies section. Do not wait to ask it just because you must post it in "newbies": the question is very likely to have already been asked. If you don't end up getting good responses, you can ask it again elsewhere after you are established, or you can move the entire topic.

If you are commenting on Bitcoin, use your newbie wait time to read more about Bitcoin. If you are criticizing Bitcoin, find similar criticism using the search tool to see which points have already been covered. A good use of your newbie wait time is reading Satoshi's old posts.

Pyccкий (Russian)

OГPAHИЧEHИЯ ДЛЯ HOBЫX УЧACTHИКOB ФOPУMOB

Пocлe peгиcтpaции Bы нe cмoжeтe oтпpaвлять cooбщeния в любыe paздeлы
кpoмe paздeлa "Hoвички". Для cнятия этoгo oгpaничeния cлeдyeт пpoвecти
нeкoтopoe вpeмя нa фopyмax и oтпpaвить нecкoлькo пoлeзныx cooбщeний.

Ecли Bы зapeгиcтpиpoвaлиcь, чтoбы зaдaть вoпpoc, пoжaлyйcтa, зaдaйтe
eгo в paздeлe "Hoвички". Haибoлee вepoятнo, чтo тaм Bы пoлyчитe oтвeт.

Ecли Bы xoтитe cтaть чacтью cooбщecтвa, тo извлeкитe из oгpaничeния
пoльзy, пpoчтитe yжe cyщecтвyющиe cooбщeния. Пoльзyйтecь пoиcкoм.

Español (Spanish)

RESTRICCIONES PARA NUEVOS MIEMBROS

Despues del registro no tendras la posibilidad de postear en ninguna otra sección que "Novatos", solo podras hacerlo despues de pasar un tiempo en el foro y publicar algunos posts en la misma.

Si te registras para hacer una pregunta, por favor hazlo en la sección "Novatos". No esperes preguntar solo porque tienes que hacerlo en "Novatos": es muy probable que tu pregunta haya sido hecha anteriormente. A cabo de un tiempo si no recibes buenas respuestas podras preguntar en otra sección en cuanto tu cuenta ya no esta limitada, o podras mover el hilo entero en la sección adecuada.

Si comentas sobre Bitcoin, usa tu tiempo de novato para leer algo mas sobre Bitcoin. Si criticas Bitcoin encuentra criticas similares usando la herramienta de busqueda para averiguar que puntos han sido ya cubiertos. Un buen uso para tu tiempo de novato seria leer los posts antiguos de Satoshi.

Português (Portuguese)

RESTRIÇÕES PARA NOVOS USUÁRIOS

Depos de se registrar, você não poderá postar nada em nenhuma seção exceto "newbies" até que você tenha gasto algum tempo no fórum
e publicado alguns postsos

Se vocẽ for registrado e fazer uma pergunta, por favor pergunte na área de newbies. Não fique sem perguntar só por que você estará
postando somente na sessão de newbies: é muito comum a questão já ter sido feita. Se você não conseguiu obter uma boa resposta, você pode perguntar novamente em outro lugar depois que estiver passado pelo período de 'newbie', ou você pode mover o tópico inteiro para outro lugar.

Se você está comentando sobre Bitcoin, use seu tempo de novato para ler mais sobre Bitcoin. Se você está criticando o Bitcoin, encontre críticas semelhantes, usando a ferramenta de busca para ver quais os pontos que já foram abordados. Um bom uso do seu tempo de espera como novato poderia ser bem gasto lendo as mensagens antigas de Satoshi.

If I remember correctly, you can't even create the account without first clicking the checkbox in front of the sentence that says:

I understand that I will initially be unable to post to most forum sections, as explained above.

[mrtrueman]

The thing is nobody reads T&C etc…they just click especially when it’s in the same colour text.

A large Red Message at the top of the forum would do.  I am sure it would be possible to only show it to “newbie” users/permissions.  We did it like this on one of our forums and it worked well.

[fildza]

I'm generally inclined to believe that if a person doesn't see this message clearly placed in front of them when they create an account, then they aren't likely to see any other similar message placed in front of them regardless of how it's done:

English

RESTRICTIONS FOR NEW MEMBERS

After registering, you will be unable to post in any section except "newbies" until you have spent some time on the forum and have published a few posts.

If you are registering to ask a question, please ask it in the newbies section. Do not wait to ask it just because you must post it in "newbies": the question is very likely to have already been asked. If you don't end up getting good responses, you can ask it again elsewhere after you are established, or you can move the entire topic.

If you are commenting on Bitcoin, use your newbie wait time to read more about Bitcoin. If you are criticizing Bitcoin, find similar criticism using the search tool to see which points have already been covered. A good use of your newbie wait time is reading Satoshi's old posts.

Pyccкий (Russian)

OГPAHИЧEHИЯ ДЛЯ HOBЫX УЧACTHИКOB ФOPУMOB

Пocлe peгиcтpaции Bы нe cмoжeтe oтпpaвлять cooбщeния в любыe paздeлы
кpoмe paздeлa "Hoвички". Для cнятия этoгo oгpaничeния cлeдyeт пpoвecти
нeкoтopoe вpeмя нa фopyмax и oтпpaвить нecкoлькo пoлeзныx cooбщeний.

Ecли Bы зapeгиcтpиpoвaлиcь, чтoбы зaдaть вoпpoc, пoжaлyйcтa, зaдaйтe
eгo в paздeлe "Hoвички". Haибoлee вepoятнo, чтo тaм Bы пoлyчитe oтвeт.

Ecли Bы xoтитe cтaть чacтью cooбщecтвa, тo извлeкитe из oгpaничeния
пoльзy, пpoчтитe yжe cyщecтвyющиe cooбщeния. Пoльзyйтecь пoиcкoм.

Español (Spanish)

RESTRICCIONES PARA NUEVOS MIEMBROS

Despues del registro no tendras la posibilidad de postear en ninguna otra sección que "Novatos", solo podras hacerlo despues de pasar un tiempo en el foro y publicar algunos posts en la misma.

Si te registras para hacer una pregunta, por favor hazlo en la sección "Novatos". No esperes preguntar solo porque tienes que hacerlo en "Novatos": es muy probable que tu pregunta haya sido hecha anteriormente. A cabo de un tiempo si no recibes buenas respuestas podras preguntar en otra sección en cuanto tu cuenta ya no esta limitada, o podras mover el hilo entero en la sección adecuada.

Si comentas sobre Bitcoin, usa tu tiempo de novato para leer algo mas sobre Bitcoin. Si criticas Bitcoin encuentra criticas similares usando la herramienta de busqueda para averiguar que puntos han sido ya cubiertos. Un buen uso para tu tiempo de novato seria leer los posts antiguos de Satoshi.

Português (Portuguese)

RESTRIÇÕES PARA NOVOS USUÁRIOS

Depos de se registrar, você não poderá postar nada em nenhuma seção exceto "newbies" até que você tenha gasto algum tempo no fórum
e publicado alguns postsos

Se vocẽ for registrado e fazer uma pergunta, por favor pergunte na área de newbies. Não fique sem perguntar só por que você estará
postando somente na sessão de newbies: é muito comum a questão já ter sido feita. Se você não conseguiu obter uma boa resposta, você pode perguntar novamente em outro lugar depois que estiver passado pelo período de 'newbie', ou você pode mover o tópico inteiro para outro lugar.

Se você está comentando sobre Bitcoin, use seu tempo de novato para ler mais sobre Bitcoin. Se você está criticando o Bitcoin, encontre críticas semelhantes, usando a ferramenta de busca para ver quais os pontos que já foram abordados. Um bom uso do seu tempo de espera como novato poderia ser bem gasto lendo as mensagens antigas de Satoshi.

If I remember correctly, you can't even create the account without first clicking the checkbox in front of the sentence that says:

I understand that I will initially be unable to post to most forum sections, as explained above.

Good job

[deepceleron]

When you register for a new account, the very first paragraph says:

RESTRICTIONS FOR NEW MEMBERS

After registering, you will be unable to post in any section except "newbies" until you have spent some time on the forum and have published a few posts.

If you are registering to ask a question, please ask it in the newbies section. Do not wait to ask it just because you must post it in "newbies": the question is very likely to have already been asked. If you don't end up getting good responses, you can ask it again elsewhere after you are established, or you can move the entire topic.

If you are commenting on Bitcoin, use your newbie wait time to read more about Bitcoin. If you are criticizing Bitcoin, find similar criticism using the search tool to see which points have already been covered. A good use of your newbie wait time is reading Satoshi's old posts.

Then the checkbox you must check at the bottom to register says:

☑ I understand that I will initially be unable to post to most forum sections, as explained above.

Then there is a sticky note at the top of the newbie forum. It is impossible to make people read, apparently.

You can't make people read. Or search.

Maybe the new member captcha should be that they have to type the phrase in the box: "I can only post in the newbie forum".

[ngenko]

Here we are, I'm experiencing similar problem, because I couldn't find the newbies section.
You could maybe add a link to the newbies section in the initial notification for newbies...
Cheers, Nicolas.

Hi All,

Just a quick note to admins, it took me a couple of visits before I realized why I could not post or reply.

I thought my profile was faulty.

I think it would be handy for some extra notification to the fact you have no permissions etc.  I have used lots of forums but the whole newbie thing here is not that obvious really.

Regards

Mr T

[OnkelPaul]

Here we are, I'm experiencing similar problem, because I couldn't find the newbies section.
You could maybe add a link to the newbies section in the initial notification for newbies...
Cheers, Nicolas.

The link to the Newbies section is right there in the open on the starting page of the forum (you admittedly need to scroll a little).
If a newbie can't be bothered to scroll down to find it most people here are very likely not interested in what he wants to say.
Newbies can still read forum posts, and if they "accidentally" find the newbie section they have hopefully read enough to write meaningful posts themselves.

Onkel Paul

[mrtrueman]

Yes maybe the current system is keeping out all but the most determined people…so maybe it’s a good thing

[Gabi]

Hi All,

Just a quick note to admins, it took me a couple of visits before I realized why I could not post or reply.

I thought my profile was faulty.

I think it would be handy for some extra notification to the fact you have no permissions etc.  I have used lots of forums but the whole newbie thing here is not that obvious really.

Regards

Mr T

So you are unable to read the T&C you accepted? But you are able to happily and quickly open a thread where you whine and cry about that. 

Oh and yes, the newbie section is exactly for that: to avoid people like you to freely roam the forum and spam everywhere

the current system is keeping out all but the most determined people

Anyone with more brain than a cockroach have no problem dealing with the current system and understanding how the newbie rules work.

[californiablue]

I agree. I searched my inbox thinking I had not confirmed registration or something....  I Googled "why can't I post a reply on Bitcointalk.org" to discover the answer. Very confusing and perhaps discouraging to new members.

[Frankton]

I had the same problem as everybody else here, very confusing to be honest! 

[iampingu]

I had the same problem as everybody else here, very confusing to be honest! 

Or you could read the terms and conditions, or even pay attention to the tick boxes!

[shandafa]

Wow, so happy to discover this thread.
Been lurking around and wondering where the "reply" button is...

[Gabi]

Poor newbies, it is VERY CONFUSING to actually HAVE TO READ    

[californiablue]

Poor newbies, it is VERY CONFUSING to actually HAVE TO READ    

Where was it for me to read? Was it in the giant box of terms & conditions when I signed up?

I don't see why a little notification for newbies ("Newbies: Read this to post and reply") is a bad idea. I came here today and didn't even remember when I had created an account, but there I was, logged in. When you visit multiple forums every few weeks or every couples months it's not easy to remember something like that. Why not give new visitors a little extra welcome?

[gweedo]

The thing is nobody reads T&C etc…they just click especially when it’s in the same colour text.

A large Red Message at the top of the forum would do.  I am sure it would be possible to only show it to “newbie” users/permissions.  We did it like this on one of our forums and it worked well.

So you are just stupid, thank you for letting us know.

[iampingu]

Poor newbies, it is VERY CONFUSING to actually HAVE TO READ    

Sooo Confusing

[Svennisen]

Poor newbies, it is VERY CONFUSING to actually HAVE TO READ    

Where was it for me to read? Was it in the giant box of terms & conditions when I signed up?

I don't see why a little notification for newbies ("Newbies: Read this to post and reply") is a bad idea. I came here today and didn't even remember when I had created an account, but there I was, logged in. When you visit multiple forums every few weeks or every couples months it's not easy to remember something like that. Why not give new visitors a little extra welcome?

If interested in bitcoin, I would advise you to start reading all terms & conditions. Bitcoin is all about anonymity and security, a person who does not read the terms for an account that you sign up for and use online is not very aware of his own security.

Don't get how you all could miss the rules. They get thrown in your face like 4 times when you register.