[ANN]Curecoin beta pool test - user limit lifted - Lets hit the Mile Stone 1200R

[CryptoBullion]

This is all very misleading - this Curecoin is impossible to do.
2 things are required for proof of work
1. Must be difficult to calculate (true)
2. Must be easy to verify (false)

Curecoin cannot be compared to Primecoin because it is not possible to easily verify the results.  Instead, they are simply giving out coins whenever a work-unit it submitted to folding@home. 

By this logic, I can make a SETIcoin based on submitting work units to SETI@Home, but that would be pretty dumb.

Stanford is already preparing for it. ( and probably making their own version as well)

This has been confirmed in an email from Professor Pande. They cant stop cygnus from releasing it anyways, obviously the smartest choice is to be ready for when he does...

We have the green light for the next stages ...

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[Duffer1]

This has been confirmed in an email from Professor Pande. They cant stop cygnus from releasing it anyways, obviously the smartest choice is to be ready for when he does...

We have the green light for the next stages ...

The next stages?  I'm still a bit confused.  Is the 'official' Curecoin going to be a coin with PoS/PoW, or just non-beta pay per F@H work unit?

Great work so far by the way.  I like this graph http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

Can anyone explain the F@H viewer to me?  It's not showing anything (other than the earth city lights at night), no protein though.  Bottom left corner says "Protien: Loading."  Is it not showing anything since I'm only 2% into my project?

[mechs]

This has been confirmed in an email from Professor Pande. They cant stop cygnus from releasing it anyways, obviously the smartest choice is to be ready for when he does...

We have the green light for the next stages ...

The next stages?  I'm still a bit confused.  Is the 'official' Curecoin going to be a coin with PoS/PoW, or just non-beta pay per F@H work unit?

Great work so far by the way.  I like this graph http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

Can anyone explain the F@H viewer to me?  It's not showing anything (other than the earth city lights at night), no protein though.  Bottom left corner says "Protien: Loading."  Is it not showing anything since I'm only 2% into my project?

Unfortunately, there is no way to do PoW with protein folding since it is not "easy to prove".  Instead, they will be giving out coins whenever you make a submission.  This is not a cryptocurrency like bitcoin.  This is like getting a gold star for sending in work units;)

[cygnusxi]

Curecoin team is exceeding all expectations of folding power for this test phase.

We are moving towards Rank #1 almost as quick as the 1200R milestone.

There will be at least 2 more stages before the official curecoin is launched. This is to not only perfect the coin but create a stable relationship between Team Curecoin's access to Stanford servers info, along with some extra cheat proof monitoring that Stanford is ready to do. ( I asked stanford to monitor the curecoin users closely for cheating, and they are preparing to do so as you read )

Many thanks to all the contributors.

The time that has gone into the design of the backbone of curecoin is many times that the time that was taken to create many alt coins. The amount of options that have been reviewed is very extensive. The only guarantee is that there has been much consideration and collaboration with professors, economists, biologists, nanoscience experts, the list goes on. Mainly we take input from doctors and med students, and I have a sibling with a masters in the medical field, Ive managed to get a lot of info from her. My cousin is getting a degree in some kind of biology... cant remember the specific field name, but I learned from listeninig to her too.

No worries about above troll post, Ive researched this more than anyone I know (except the research being done by stanford, I cant squeeze out the details of the secret Stanford coin project... They have slipped details but not enough to confirm much). Please understand my intentions are to stop more people from suffering painful non effective cancer treatments (Chemotherapy). If you read into the words of the Stanford Lab teams you will see they have good intentions. They intend to create a nuclear medicine to replace chemo that can target only cancer cells. This is one of many great goals they have, there is plenty of reading to do about folding, google folding@home + "any detail" and you will get answers to all your questions.

Please do some reading about the folding@home project, it is very inspirational, epic use of world wide distributed computing power.

[mechs]

Curecoin team is exceeding all expectations of folding power for this test phase.

We are moving towards Rank #1 almost as quick as the 1200R milestone.

There will be at least 2 more stages before the official curecoin is launched. This is to not only perfect the coin but create a stable relationship between Team Curecoin's access to Stanford servers info, along with some extra cheat proof monitoring that Stanford is ready to do. ( I asked stanford to monitor the curecoin users closely for cheating, and they are preparing to do so as you read )

Many thanks to all the contributors.

The time that has gone into the design of the backbone of curecoin is many times that the time that was taken to create many alt coins. The amount of options that have been reviewed is very extensive. The only guarantee is that there has been much consideration and collaboration with professors, economists, biologists, nanoscience experts, the list goes on. Mainly we take input from doctors and med students, and I have a sibling with a masters in the medical field, Ive managed to get a lot of info from her. My cousin is getting a degree in some kind of biology... cant remember the specific field name, but I learned from listeninig to her too.

No worries about above troll post, Ive researched this more than anyone I know (except the research being done by stanford, I cant squeeze out the details of the secret Stanford coin project... They have slipped details but not enough to confirm much). Please understand my intentions are to stop more people from suffering painful non effective cancer treatments (Chemotherapy). If you read into the words of the Stanford Lab teams you will see they have good intentions. They intend to create a nuclear medicine to replace chemo that can target only cancer cells. This is one of many great goals they have, there is plenty of reading to do about folding, google folding@home + "any detail" and you will get answers to all your questions.

Please do some reading about the folding@home project, it is very inspirational, epic use of world wide distributed computing power.

All wonderful - I fully support folding @ home.  But you are being purposely misleading, this is not a cryptocurrency.  The folding is not used as PoW to prevent a doublespend.  You are merely going to hand out some sort of coin in exchange for submitting work units.  I am simply stating this is not a valid comparison to Primecoin. This will never be a P2P decentralized currency.  It is a centralized token system.

Why don't I make AlienCoin - I will give out some sort of "coin" in exchange for submitting work units to SETI@home?

[Krusher33]

It's exactly how I've been feeling about it so far.  It's a token system and not a cryptocoin.

[CryptoBullion]

It's exactly how I've been feeling about it so far.  It's a token system and not a cryptocoin.

As of right now it is just a "token system". Details are spread out amongst the posts, i know its sorta cluttered and hard to find all the current details in one spot, but yea, its not fully launched yet.

This is a test of the folding payout broadcast system, this is only a test.

The official curecoin will be released after a few options for payments to folders is tested.

Patience young skywalker....

Regardless of all the current short comings the fact remains that the folding team Curecoin is raising ranks faster than any other folding team.

Surely some credit is due somewhere. Its not like we are tricking you into doing something evil with your hash power or not trying to pay you at all...

current team rank 2,330

Ill update the 2nd post and try to explain this better so this info is easier to find. And please dont say we are intentionally misleading people, that is quite misleading.

[CryptoBullion]

New user melnikalex1 just fired up the big rigs and popped up to 2nd place on the team in one day. Looks like they have 8 gpu's total pointed to the project, and already at 344738 points in about 24 hours. Awesome folding power !!! Thanks for joining the team. Its quite shocking to see the numbers of how a few bitcoin miners can compare to the big teams.


http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

[dudeami]

Looks like melnikalex1 is gonna give the team the extra push it needs. According to kakao we'll be rank 1200 in a months time!

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=11&t=224497

Keep folding!

[cygnusxi]

Looks like melnikalex1 is gonna give the team the extra push it needs. According to kakao we'll be rank 1200 in a months time!

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=11&t=224497

Keep folding!

We are actually moving way faster then that. Current pace is ~500,000 PPD , rank 1200 is ~9 million points, we have 3,791,808 already. at 500k PPD we will be reaching 1200 in about 10 days.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497   - this one estimates moving up over 836 ranks in 7 days, from rank 2,127 = Rank 1291 in 7 days.

Team Intel and Team Pande labs ( our next targets to beat  ) are putting out ~1,000,000 PPD

[CryptoBullion]

i should note if i have that you need to have your auto payout threshold set up to make sure you get your coins.

oh good news too, SistaFista is going to donate a pile of globalcoins to the pool. in the long run i hope everyone manages to make few dollars in crypto for helping. Globalcoin value has been doing pretty good. This pool will surely atleast pay for your electricity + a little extra while you fold. Payouts will continue to raise per round as the pool grows. Im charging no fee on these coins given out. If you are one of the people who are doing this just for the cause please set your donation lvl to 100% or w/e lvl you want. that way i can know how many funds are left to disperse to the ones that came to get some crypto. any donation % in this pool is going right back to the other folders.

My WDC and DGC pools are still temp closed to save resources for the current project . my fastcoin , xencoin, globalcoin, and mastercoin pools are open, low fees. If you want to help me out you can always hash there and put a few % in the donate option.

Again though for eveyone using the pool, please set up autopayout if you want to collect your coin, or adjust donation. There is a pretty good pile of global coins waiting for you. Value on coins e is worth the trade.

[CryptoBullion]

about 30 spots left in the folding pool.

Received 100k globalcoin donation last night from SistaFista.

Payout rounds are going to double again up to 4000 GLC per round !!

Also, every last member who had under 200 coins now has more than 200 coins in there balance, some were given a little larger random bonus. (2000 glc random bonuses to a few small powered folders  )

Ive made more improvements on the payout system, however the big dogs are folding so fast they are getting a big share. Ill continue to add some bonuses to smaller users. Every little bit help.

check out my "folding on a vps for free" thread if you want to get some points for free without using your pc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264613.0

oh, Im almost finished with another nice upgrade. you'll see soon. The project was definitely a requirement for testing the payout logic of curecoin. As cygnus just announced, folders will be paid an amount of coins equal to the amount mined my miners during the last 24 hours. This creates a perfect balance to make sure people mine to secure the network, and hopefully it will keep the folder to miner ratio as close to 1:1 as possible.  a lot of people will split there hashing power and put half to mining and half to folding ...

[CryptoBullion]

More fixes to payout logic, currently trying to simulate the 24hr pay schedule intended for folders.

Made some sense of the stats, the old block graph has been coverted to track our points per day 

Relabeled a bunch of stuff to so (almost) everything makes sense.

Take a look, give it a try 

Stats will be more accurate soon.   

[yeltz]

I'm going to copy/paste a post I made in another thread just so I don't have to retype the same thing again (sorry, but I think it's relevant to this discussion):

HOLY CRAP!!! Even though I was only part way through my first cup of coffee when I posted that this morning, I thought my math looked off - but I obviously wasn't awake enough to register the fact.

I'm still relatively new to this forum, and I'm not sure this is the tread for it, but let me take a minute to say HELL YES, CURECOIN, HELL YES cygnusxi, AND HELL YES TO YOU GUYS THROWING SOME CPU/GPU TIME AT THIS.

Even if Curecoin as a crypto doesn't become something that's traded on the exchanges, or exchangeable for goods or services (and don't get me wrong, I totally want to see it to continue to move in that direction), what this project is doing is something bigger. The 61 of us (as the team page reports) are coming together to do something that could truly change the world.

I'm sure many of you have had friends or loved ones with alzheimer's or cancer or the like - and know how ravaging these diseases can be. Not just for the person experiencing them, but for those who want to be there to support them through their (at times inevitably losing) battle. If team 224497 - team CureCoin - is able to provide medical science enough information to even inch research a fraction of a percent along, we're doing something more important than the biggest GPU farms or highest hashing ASICs out there - we're doing something that could lead to a better future. And we should all be proud of being involved.

Hat's off to getting this project off the ground.
So after we've amassed enough computing power to finish all the work F@H has for us and cured every disease, what do you guys say to a SETIcoin? 

[CryptoBullion]

i might be looking into seti pool 

Seti has a pretty huge following already though, It might be interesting to pick out one small network researching a good cause, maybe something that takes less over all computing power to complete. Seeing all the work on a research project completed due to a large spike in computing power would be interesting.

i think back in december 2012 BTC and SETI were equal powered networks at around 300 tflops

Finding alien communications would be sweet though 

[spoid]

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

[dudeami]

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

Generally, yes. Some exceptions are the 7970 with the newer core_17 and possibly some others. They are closing the gap though, but nvidia still reigns supreme for folding.

[yeltz]

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

Generally, yes. Some exceptions are the 7970 with the newer core_17 and possibly some others. They are closing the gap though, but nvidia still reigns supreme for folding.

The irony, for me anyway, is that I sold my (albeit older) GTX 460 and picked up a 7850 because I wanted to play with cryptos just a few months ago. And here I am legitimately interested in what an alt coin could offer, and it preforms better on Nvidia hardware. Oh well.

[CryptoBullion]

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

Generally, yes. Some exceptions are the 7970 with the newer core_17 and possibly some others. They are closing the gap though, but nvidia still reigns supreme for folding.

The irony, for me anyway, is that I sold my (albeit older) GTX 460 and picked up a 7850 because I wanted to play with cryptos just a few months ago. And here I am legitimately interested in what an alt coin could offer, and it preforms better on Nvidia hardware. Oh well.

your 7850 will hit 30k ppd with a core17 project, make sure you set the advanced options to client-type=advanced or client-type=beta  ( edit the shortcut on your desktop, the parameter is on the end of it)

then go to option, then expert tab, add this to the extra configs (the right window)
-gpu-vendor=ati

you might have to go to your roaming data dir and delete the old work units, in appdata/roaming/fahclient/work/  delete folders 0 1 2  or w/e to clear out old work. when you fire it back up it will use core17

not sure what a gtx 460 hits but i doubt its much more than 30k ppd . ATI speeds are up by ~ 600% from what they used to be.

[dudeami]

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

Generally, yes. Some exceptions are the 7970 with the newer core_17 and possibly some others. They are closing the gap though, but nvidia still reigns supreme for folding.

The irony, for me anyway, is that I sold my (albeit older) GTX 460 and picked up a 7850 because I wanted to play with cryptos just a few months ago. And here I am legitimately interested in what an alt coin could offer, and it preforms better on Nvidia hardware. Oh well.

your 7850 will hit 30k ppd with a core17 project, make sure you set the advanced options to client-type=advanced or client-type=beta  ( edit the shortcut on your desktop, the parameter is on the end of it)

then go to option, then expert tab, add this to the extra configs (the right window)
-gpu-vendor=ati

you might have to go to your roaming data dir and delete the old work units, in appdata/roaming/fahclient/work/  delete folders 0 1 2  or w/e to clear out old work. when you fire it back up it will use core17

not sure what a gtx 460 hits but i doubt its much more than 30k ppd . ATI speeds are up by ~ 600% from what they used to be.

Thats the good thing, they are working actively on ATI and lots of progress has been made, just in the beta stages. Now, just need to get ATI to make their linux drivers acceptable for folding.