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December 20, 2017, 12:39:14 AM
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Hello Everyone,

I am a compaign translator, @Ventefruss
I done many projects like, BitcoinWhite, BitsChamp, Angel Tokens....i haven't any problem with them,
Since i worked with P2PSF token Bounty rewards, i take a contact for 16 languages, he said: "when you make me half work i send you half payment with token"
There is the work:
6 whitepapers:

Arabic: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bjPMurdglbtof2KFRwCAyB7z-Q1AIAb-/view?usp=sharing
French: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pPXgtEZNnHOToTe3vkveYJgabnXdoggK/view?usp=sharing
Spanish: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oqQuqpOXDTq_7lj6YRlVUADFERxP9kT4/view?usp=sharing
Romanian: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11nBcOAlpVAKhBLcRORlpAJP6xJq2MDGC/view?usp=sharing
Indonesian: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bx11ZG8BrdUcZH5dXi7dtb-6zH8xC9VJ/view?usp=sharing
Italian: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kiyUvp78Z3kiYz351--NZL-J7goTVEns/view?usp=sharing

10 websites translated: you can found it in this link like spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B3l7OnAswXLsE7vkgxG1hCLpvsfw2eamCuMt30RPHKc

10 Generale Termes link for spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MWxT8jvt-vWrQYJ4Eumk1QyXf5W8W_vejZC4A24DZTQ
6 bounty thread link for spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xoFEejDjarHaxIugU2nWorovwSFIzDKmyiHvg8dQShk

Website: p2psf.org
Telegram: @p2psf
i send the translation work for him  @p2psf what he say: I am sorry to have to inform you that our deal is now cancelled my friend. We are too afraid to deal in the manner you have just demonstrated. I am sorry but we cannot take such a huge risk on such an unprofessional approach. As it is you seem to be a very busy person loaded with work. Therefore, this translation work may not mean much to you. Many thanks for considering us and we wish you best of luck.

I am a busy man to manage his work and he cancelled the contract just for this reason above.
I asked for administrators and people to help me, about this dishonest person to refund me my money,
it cost to me 7000$, our deal was to give me 1% of his tokens (translation services not total supply)
I have paid all my team translators he made me lose my money.
First Email i receive to start translation

Hello and greetings dear Ventefruss Team,
 
Thank you for your email and for your proposal.
 
We are happy to receive your proposal for translations of Whitepaper, website, ANN thread and Bounty thread into sixteen different languages as proposed by you.
 
We have a verbal approval from a council member for your proposal. This should allow you to start your translation work. We request you to first provide us with ANN and bounty threads, followed by Whitepaper and website.
 
Please note that you should be actively moderating all ANN and bounty threads to ensure highest possible participation from the community and anyone who wishes to buy our P2PS tokens.
 
We shall now proceed with processing 25% of the agreed upon tokens as advance payment to you. Please ensure that you provide us with an ERC20 compatible token wallet address in the next two days to facilitate the transfer.
 
Look forward to working with you on our P2PS tokens offering.
Best regards,
Team P2PS.

Some of previous work:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1j1Yrp0u-IS7Jknq7u63sox1bcb-j60853COJVza-9rs
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MWxT8jvt-vWrQYJ4Eumk1QyXf5W8W_vejZC4A24DZTQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B3l7OnAswXLsE7vkgxG1hCLpvsfw2eamCuMt30RPHKc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aOKRwHeNv8Nguy57jyG1iLmLOcQe7cdW90f4c-VQ1b8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f07rQFB1vA0HpQfsAjfArVyAXkoPZKCLF7lIwFhxDJg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Wjmrg2QVjbrLKtm-Rb-57Ewcl1nFIN2QCnek3i3jPvs
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9FUrwZMMuuUbVdKV2R5WkRyUDA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9FUrwZMMuuUMjdvd0hTa1lrWXM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9FUrwZMMuuUcHFRdGhqVVN3UEE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9FUrwZMMuuUaThfb2YwY1daWE0
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9FUrwZMMuuUMlVHYkZlVUdSRjA
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2434168.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2431990.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lv7wc5g2gcucp4k/Angel-Token-White-Paper-3_0_german_v4.pdf?dl=0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2431990.0
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y8jjBsE9IP7CNJ7IBcg9H2986jWcyHBzkK_LBy559I4
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1to5swbf3B49eRXl8VtUYH-Gy3Jyu7kqT9lm3-C6HBF0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2431990.0
Spanish      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2468186.0
portuguais   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2470764.0
Indonesian  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2473704
Chinese  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2473747.0
Russian    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2473485.0
French      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2471438.0
Vietnamese  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2471937.0
German  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2470181.0
Arabic   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2474063.0
Thai      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2471360.0
maylasian       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2478770.0
Romainese   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2471937.0
Turkish   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2471385.0

To all the moderators come to my help please
Peer To Peer Solution Foundation don't pay me ! He is a SCAMMER and they SCAM me @Ventefruss
"Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own." -- Satoshi
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December 20, 2017, 02:12:59 AM
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did you pm'd them and did they replied?
because there is a high volume of traffic on the network that it may take some time before you get your payment.

but if they ignored you the DT's should take a look at it and do the appropriate actions.

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December 20, 2017, 04:07:53 AM
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oh sorry to hear that. But I think you need to check the quality of the translations especially the Arabic one and to be frank its horrible. May be because of that they denied your work. If they want to scam you, they can do that at the time of distribution of the tokens after the ICO without paying you. But they didn't do that. So I personally don't think they scammed you.
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December 20, 2017, 07:30:41 AM
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Even more shady behaviour.

Decoded (the manager of the p2ps signature campaign) which can be found here , recently just made an announcement on the thread -

This will be the last week of the signature campaign, due to lack of communication, funding, and most of all payment to me for this signature campaign
I will not be managing payouts for altcoins, and I have saved all your payment info onto the spreadsheet, so they should be able to send you guys payment after the ICO ends.

The campaign will re-open after we iron out the problems behind the scene, if this ever happens.

Sorry for the inconvenience all,

Seems like he wasn't being paid and now has to close the campaign due to lack of communication and lack of funds.

Your work is mediocre at best and there may be a chance that is why you aren' being made. Can you provide chat logs, please?

Also, I just released. You've been spamming me with pms for a while now and it's something like this -

Hello,
hello I offer my services compaign manager:
I managed all the translations of the whitepapers and the website, so I would take care of your signature compaing and Facbook, Twitter.
For languages, I have my team who will take care of all the translations
French
English
russian
arabic
Vietnamian
Indonisian
germany
Spanish
Malaysian
Japan
Korian
Roman
arabic
China
Thai
French
Portuguese
For me, I speak French perfectly because it is my mother tongue
I am waiting for your favorable response

My Telegram @Ventefruss

Thank you
This is spam. Stop doing this.

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December 20, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
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Read carefully disclaimer:

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(1) Campaign Manager and Owners reserve the rights to apply new rules and can change any existing rule or do any other reasonable changes (including payment structure and amount)

This is: ONE TOKEN BOUNTY.
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Hello,
hello I offer my services compaign manager:
I managed all the translations of the whitepapers and the website, so I would take care of your signature compaing and Facbook, Twitter.
For languages, I have my team who will take care of all the translations
French
English
russian
arabic
Vietnamian
Indonisian
germany
Spanish
Malaysian
Japan
Korian
Roman
arabic
China
Thai
French
Portuguese
For me, I speak French perfectly because it is my mother tongue
I am waiting for your favorable response

My Telegram @Ventefruss

Thank you
This is spam. Stop doing this.

I too have received this spam, and I'd also like for you to stop.



I have not hired ventefruss yet for any of my translations, though I think the best way to solve this is for someone of each respective language could come and verify the accuracy of said translations. Then the devs and ventefruss could discuss this calmly without anyone getting hurt mentally.
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December 20, 2017, 03:01:36 PM
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Read carefully disclaimer:

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(1) Campaign Manager and Owners reserve the rights to apply new rules and can change any existing rule or do any other reasonable changes (including payment structure and amount)

This is: ONE TOKEN BOUNTY.

Hey what did you mean by This is: ONE TOKEN BOUNTY.

Did you mean this is written ON the TOKEN BOUNTY  thread? lol.
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December 20, 2017, 07:33:19 PM
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Hello again dear aTriz,

Hope you are doing well.

In short, dear aTriz, the contract was cancelled about an hour after we sent the email that ventefruss refers to. It was because a spreadsheet with "word to word" translation was shown to us. Thats not what we agreed. So he/she said that excellent quality translation work will be presented. And since every human deserves a second chance, we agreed conditionally, that just one or two small documents such as the one page be translated and presented. If we like the work, get it approved by our staff, we accept it, and he goes ahead. Otherwise we cannot. This was explained clearly but politely.

Thereafter, he committed to us that within 10 hours we will get the sample which never showed up for days. When the translation showed up, and this time not just the one pager but a bunch of 6 whitepapers etc., we thought alright still not bad if the quality is good. However, unfortunately, the translation was horrible; not just horrible but gives a bad meaning too. So we respectfully told ventefruss to kindly get that proof read by good professional translators but before that please send it for an opinion to anyone he/she knows to give him/her the comfort level that we are not lying or avoiding payment.

To this, he started threatening and blackmailing. We do not want to nor intend to cheat or scam anyone but we will not be threatened or blackmailed by anyone.

Thats the truth. Now you please tell me dear aTriz, he demands 100000 of our tokens for the kind of work he presents and then lies saying it was 1% of translation bounty. Does this not demonstrate a bunch of lies and greed on his part? I am still saying I will escrow the full 100000 tokens until you guys, the legendary members resolve this. If I am wrong I will pay the price with my job but if ventefruss is proved wrong, then what do we do about our image which he has tried to tarnish and defame us with his lies and baseless accusations?

I rest my case with you and trust your decision.

Thanking you again,
Best regards.


Provide the necessary chat logs you claim, and the OP should also do the same to avoid confusion. @p2psf, you still haven't paid @decoded right? Pay him for his work till now ,provide the proof, and try to sort out this mess before things get way out of your hand and gives a negative feedback to your ico investors.

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Last edit: December 21, 2017, 08:28:00 PM by pugman
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Hello and greetings dear pugman,

I am still learning the ropes. Will it be convenient for you to please guide me.

1. Who do I send the chat logs to? Do i post them here?
2. Decoded has done his work and there is no disputing that. In good faith we agreed but although I covered the escrow with some BCH I had, I could not cover his part. Still trying. I do not have the liquidity to pay Decoded now. I have provided one of the proof, of losing the BTC I had that I lost to a Trojan, on the thread. Its out there for everyone to see that I do not lie. I do not need to lie. Until I get some liquidity in BTC I am willing to send more than the equivalent in our tokens to Decoded or put some of our tokens in escrow. I will pay him and have taken personal responsibility of it. Therefore, what do you suggest I do in these circumstances?

Look forward to your kind guidance. Thank you so much for your time in advance.
 
Thanking you again,
Best regards.


Hello,
You can provide the chat logs, here, yes.
You're a team but still you say *I*? How do you survive on your living? Did you offer decoded the tokens? The tokens aren't on the exchange so he may not go for it, maybe decoded will be needing bitcoin, as it's much easier to convert into fiat .
Yes, I did read the post where you mentioned about the Trojan attack, that's hard to believe to be honest. After all, people have come up with worst and better excuses too and still scammed people. I'm not saying you are a scammer but there's a chance. Try borrowing a loan and pay him, at least people will not lose trust in you and your ico. That's the least you can do. There are so many options you can explore, but I'll leave it down to you to decide on what you plan to do.
Good luck.

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December 21, 2017, 12:43:43 AM
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most conversation are edit please check it, to see lies.
Sorry to say that, but you are not someone who don't pays his collaborators.
Just let me say that you are a crook.
I am sorry again to say it in public, but, I say it as well because some people do not know you in your identities it is high time that everyone knows you


It was really long, but I finished Grin

Could u give the screenshots with the same dialogue? Shed some light, please.
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TL; DR
Can you post the chat logs in the form of images? It's too too long to read like this. Plus, if it were images it'd be less possible for a scam here because normal text messages any one can just make up on their own and claim it to be true.

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December 21, 2017, 03:59:31 AM
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OP is a spammer and the guy P2Psf is a douchebag. I saw their website and tried to see the articles and found that all articles are fake, they are hosted on the websites that don't even have ssl.
The New York Post article logo is real but when i click on it then it takes me to some random url which try to impersonate like NYP.
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P2PSF is a big scam project, their manager is a crook, please be careful when you deal with this one Telegram @p2psf they don't care about their reputation.
he send me 1000 P2ps (knowing that 1 p2ps= 1$ when we deal) in this address: https://ethplorer.io/address/0x45fa1c137342e3b939d263012c26b259d0ea1a23 asking me to delete this topic and they send me the rest, but i don't believe them because they croocked me before.
please someone moderator bitcointalk help me, I lost much money and they didn't respond me.
I hope they will refund me !
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they send me this message recently
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Hello and greetings dear Ivan,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Please send us details of the:

1.       BTC transactions for $7000 that you claim to have spent.

2.       Screen shots of the scam accusation thread before messages were deleted.


Regards

I deleted this topic and they didn't solve anything.
Proof of the transactions: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18RQ9KDSDzstLDZRp8noonyEdbEaBmvZAM
in December, 2017
Please any admin can solve my issue ! 
i have also a proof of discution with P2psf when we deal about the amount of tokens and my investment in theire project.
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