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July 26, 2013, 02:08:53 AM |
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Just wondering what people think is currently the best semi-trustworthy investment out there? I am involved in only two currently: Just-Dice and ASICMiner. I hate the mining bonds and Satoshi Dice now has one private. I also hate the new Ministry of Games, mostly since the CEO is a sociopath though maybe that alone not a good reason to dismiss it (though sociopaths do have a way of screwing people over without guilt). Any other suggestions?
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July 26, 2013, 02:26:15 AM |
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I enjoy trading on Bitfunder and btco.co. If you can get Active Mining for under .003, I think itll go up to .005 in the next month or so. Asicminer gives good dividends and holds its value, if you cant afford the price of a full share, try TAT investments on Bitfunder.
Dont get too attached to any of your investments, set a number in mind and actually sell.
Im just an armchair enthusiast, im still learning and playing around, diversifying outside of satoshi circle
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July 26, 2013, 02:37:35 AM |
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if you want a good investment and your into altcoin you will like what project infinite has to offer ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 26, 2013, 06:15:57 AM |
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There are no good investments, just give up on life.
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July 26, 2013, 06:24:58 AM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
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mechs (OP)
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July 26, 2013, 06:37:20 AM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer?
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July 26, 2013, 06:41:19 AM |
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Well for starters ActiveMiner is attempting to mirror AM's business model with 28nm chips
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July 26, 2013, 06:44:05 AM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? too far, too fast, my ass. Why is everyone saying that? Does anyone have any justification for saying it's risen too far, too fast? It's the only real investment in all of the Bitcoin economy. If anything, it has risen too slow.
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July 26, 2013, 06:50:22 AM |
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The only real investment? Thats a bit... rich.
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July 26, 2013, 12:25:40 PM |
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Well there are a lot of Assets with great potential but pretty much everything has a high risk associated with the "potential" high reward.
If you want to take less risk there are the much more stable and reliable Bonds issued (i.e Ukyo.Loan, Graet.Loan, BTC-BOND, LTC-ATF.B2 or Coinlenders) with interest rates around 18% Per Annum. But you not gonna get rich over night with these and to be honest not sure the risk of investing in BTC/Stockexchanges is worth the relativly small reward or not.
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July 26, 2013, 01:12:29 PM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares. 25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5 ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about: 4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072 Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made.
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July 26, 2013, 01:58:05 PM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares. 25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5 ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about: 4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072 Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made. you know you don't make any sense? What has a number of shares to do with anything? Does ActiveMining have any product?
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July 26, 2013, 02:04:53 PM |
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I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares.
25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5
ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about:
4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072
Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made.
you know you don't make any sense? What has a number of shares to do with anything? Does ActiveMining have any product? What has a number of shares to do with anything?It allows him to compare share prices without the influence of massive difference in the number of shares issues.
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July 26, 2013, 02:32:32 PM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares. 25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5 ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about: 4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072 Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made. you know you don't make any sense? What has a number of shares to do with anything? Does ActiveMining have any product? Did AM have any product at their IPO? Asking what the number of shares has to with anything is no different than asking what the price of each share has to with anything. You may as well be asking why TAT.AM is 100 times cheaper than AM-PT. The answer is obvious.
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July 26, 2013, 05:08:17 PM |
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares. 25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5 ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about: 4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072 Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made. you know you don't make any sense? What has a number of shares to do with anything? Does ActiveMining have any product? Did AM have any product at their IPO? Asking what the number of shares has to with anything is no different than asking what the price of each share has to with anything. You may as well be asking why TAT.AM is 100 times cheaper than AM-PT. The answer is obvious. Well, ASICMINER was also valued at around 1/50th of ActM when they did their IPO so it's not really a fantastic comparison.
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asicminer is obviously the best investment in bitcoinland nowadays.
Disclaimer: I am a shareholder....
I already hold some ASICMiner Direct Shares - I actually been slowly lightening up on every 20% move up. Just seems it has risen too far, too fast - expectations are very high. Just-Dice is very volatile - honestly, being an investor there seems to be about the same as being a gambler. Hoping long-term it works out. What is the to like about Activeminer? I'd say that ActiveMining is a far better investment than ASICMiner at today's prices due to its potential. AM has 400,000 shares. ActM will have 25,000,000 shares. 25,000,000 / 400,000 = 62.5 ActM has the potential to compete with AM, so given a price of 4.5 BTC for AM shares, if ActM fulfils it's potential, it could have a share price of about: 4.5 / 62.5 = 0.072 Given the current price of ActM is about 0.0043 BTC, there's a lot of profit to made. you know you don't make any sense? What has a number of shares to do with anything? Does ActiveMining have any product? Did AM have any product at their IPO? Asking what the number of shares has to with anything is no different than asking what the price of each share has to with anything. You may as well be asking why TAT.AM is 100 times cheaper than AM-PT. The answer is obvious. Well, ASICMINER was also valued at around 1/50th of ActM when they did their IPO so it's not really a fantastic comparison. AM cost 0.1 BTC at IPO and AMC cost 0.0005 BTC, making AMC 200 times cheaper initially. AMC was to have 100,000,000 shares though, but ActM has only 25,000,000. 100,000,000 * 0.0005 = 50,000 400,000 * 0.1 = 40,000 So, AMC was valued 125% higher than AM for their IPOs. For people who bought AMC at 0.0005 and transferred to ActM, we get: 25,000,000 / 0.0005 = 12,500 That means AM was 320% higher than ActM for some people.
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July 26, 2013, 07:33:10 PM |
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put a bit into activemining, it has served me well so far and everything looks to be well in order.
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July 26, 2013, 07:37:54 PM |
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As far as your immortal soul goes, the very best investment is prayer.
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July 30, 2013, 09:41:23 AM |
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Did AM have any product at their IPO?
Asking what the number of shares has to with anything is no different than asking what the price of each share has to with anything. You may as well be asking why TAT.AM is 100 times cheaper than AM-PT. The answer is obvious.
you have to understand that AM took totally unique opportunity which won't repeat itself. You think that Active Mining will make hole in the world with some Avalon chips? I don't think so...
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July 30, 2013, 09:53:44 AM |
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Did AM have any product at their IPO?
Asking what the number of shares has to with anything is no different than asking what the price of each share has to with anything. You may as well be asking why TAT.AM is 100 times cheaper than AM-PT. The answer is obvious.
you have to understand that AM took totally unique opportunity which won't repeat itself. You think that Active Mining will make hole in the world with some Avalon chips? I don't think so... There's nothing to stop the opportunity repeating. Also, if you think people are investing in ActM because they have a few Avalon chips, as opposed to them developing their own chips, then you don't know what you are talking about. Investors will jump at the chance to get in on the "next ASICMminer" early, and this has been proven with ActM. Not only will ActM repeat AM's success, but I'm betting Labcoin and BTC Garden will as well. Also, Active Mining has already doubled in price since I made my initial post here, proving that ActM was a far better investment than AM at the time.
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