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December 27, 2017, 05:17:54 PM
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Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.
it may look yes but this is not so that we can see cause we all know that trading analysis can one of the method only but not the base of you to know the next pump of the coin that you are holding this is just only one of the helpful method that you can ever used for.

Trading analysis some time will be true,some time may not. So just hold the bitcoin and sell when the price reaches maximum and hold when the price of bitcoin reaches low value. But good one is hold your coins for the long as much you can. Because just holding wll gives you additional dollars,avoid of panic selling also give you some more dollars.
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December 27, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
The real thing is about market updates and insider news. If you know these two things in sure shot way then there is chance that you will end up with good results too. ;-)

Anyway now let’s consider you can’t get insider stuff but you can always update yourself with market news and updates on daily basis. There are many threads which talk about specific coin and they can give us idea about the next huge pump or even dump. The speculations are real and we should always focus on them to get true results.

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December 27, 2017, 05:34:32 PM
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There are two types of approaches to analyze a market:

1) Fundamental analysis: This focuses on anything that could have an impact on the asset, when it comes to Bitcoin, it would be technological improvements, news on exchanges, powerful people talking about in a certain way (see Jamie Dimon's repeated attempts at FUD the price... etc)

2) Technical analysis: This focuses exclusively on the charts and the shapes formed therein. In my view this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I think it's healthy to consider both and don't think FA can work without TA and TA can work without FA.. it's a mixture.
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December 27, 2017, 05:39:46 PM
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Graphs are very useful only to check the lifetime of the particular currency!

All analysis and analysts are pure scam and guessing!

Read Nassim Taleb, you won't regret it!

But it's not that hard to understand even without reading him! Smiley

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December 27, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
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Stuffs kept for analisis are just for references to have some idea to deal with things related to findings, its not advised to just go by the analisis. Things changes now and then. It should come from the experience. Either its right or not, take your own decision and move forward. Gather ideas from people who already have lot experience on the same field. All these are for just knowledge to move about. Just refer what you come across related to your findings and implement as per your decision. Abide to your decision either lose or win.



























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December 27, 2017, 06:20:31 PM
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What you are doing looking at how others analyze or predict the price movement of cryptocurrency is not what is called "trading analysis" or technical analysis  as you are simply looking at how others do it without you even confirming it with your own analysis. If you really want to profit from trading what you need to do is to study and do your own analysis as it is the only way for you to confirm what they are doing is accurate or right.

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December 27, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Surety comes with experience.The analyst blogs is full of experienced and smart traders.They have been into this field since it was started.They know what are the limitation of each coin and till where it can go,They don't run or control but they clearly know how it will run and that's the huge difference between a newbie and an experienced campaigner.I am not saying that new traders can't analyse but for that everybody has to gain knowledge regarding trends and limit.It is not scam or control by anybody if it was people controlling them would only be the richest person.Trading is a skill which develops with time.   
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December 27, 2017, 06:41:59 PM
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It all boils down to human behavior, which can be broken to down to math, algorithms and formulas. Which in turn is just information and patterns, like everything else. Learn to understand that information and those patterns, and you might have an edge Tongue

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December 27, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
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In fact the technical analysis in the bitcoin and the altcoin market in general seems to have no use, since this very recent and immature market is easily manipulated and it is enough that a man like McAfee sneezes to generate enormous volatility in some altcoin. Therefore, I usually focus on few cryptos, and most of them with enough stability, such as bitcoin and ethereum.
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December 27, 2017, 07:27:56 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Blind game always loses but deep analytics can win sometimes. Trading with small money is easy because you don't care if you lose, you can risk very easily and well, to say finally, you trade without bad emotions, that's main factor. When you trade with big, you think more than you have to think, are nervous if you lose, make more mistakes and etc. Trading needs much training, good analytics skills and etc.

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December 28, 2017, 01:47:50 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Blind game always loses but deep analytics can win sometimes. Trading with small money is easy because you don't care if you lose, you can risk very easily and well, to say finally, you trade without bad emotions, that's main factor. When you trade with big, you think more than you have to think, are nervous if you lose, make more mistakes and etc. Trading needs much training, good analytics skills and etc.
trading using analysis, it will make it easier to determine where we should buy at which price level.with this analysis it will minimize our risk for at least.

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January 04, 2018, 07:58:00 PM
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You can observe that by being vigilant. Take a look in the picture properly, think of it as the time what is happening in our society. Analysis of it is not that easy, ypu should observe more in the moment, so you can understand it by heart.

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January 04, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
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The market is manipulated by introducing traders astray, knocking the stop loss, but different oscillators in combination in the charts of coins, helping to see the market overbought or Vice versa and make a decision about selling or buying coins
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January 04, 2018, 08:30:45 PM
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Mostly speculation regarding Bitcoin and few more. But Analysis does comes into effect. At the beginning even during the early 2017 analysis upon Bitcoin trading came to use, not likely as of now, which is speculation mostly, its really hard to analyse it now. And the people predicting it is mostly speculating.
But for few coins, fundamentals are good enough and fundamental analysis can help find those in early stages.
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

I believe it is some kind of speculation, no one knows the future unless we made everything to make it happen.  One reason for this is that this so called people that gives signal have high influence on their industry.  So whatever they said, those who follow them ( especially if they have millions of follower) will have a dramatic effect on the market and will have a ripple effect to outside circle.  Imagining a very influencial trader giving signal that x coin will increase by 20x on y time..  Definitely this million followers will buy this x coin and when this y time come, the effect of this buying will greatly increase the price. 

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January 05, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

I believe it is some kind of speculation, no one knows the future unless we made everything to make it happen.  One reason for this is that this so called people that gives signal have high influence on their industry.  So whatever they said, those who follow them ( especially if they have millions of follower) will have a dramatic effect on the market and will have a ripple effect to outside circle.  Imagining a very influencial trader giving signal that x coin will increase by 20x on y time..  Definitely this million followers will buy this x coin and when this y time come, the effect of this buying will greatly increase the price. 
basically , everything are just a speculation. we just make an effort to make sure it won't go wild unexpectedly , when you do analysis at least you have a little control over your plan on trading , not just pure speculation that mostly causing a huge loss.

do more often and learn about the technical analysis and you will feel the different.

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January 07, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
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Of course, all trading models are just speculations, they don't work perfectly in forex, and they work worst in crypto.
But using a model - even if it is not perfect - it's better than taking decision by gut.

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January 07, 2018, 11:02:12 PM
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Of course, all trading models are just speculations, they don't work perfectly in forex, and they work worst in crypto.
But using a model - even if it is not perfect - it's better than taking decision by gut.

In every market there is no accurate result for what ever analysis you made, it is just a pure speculation but it helps a lot to you. Learning how to read charts, can help you decide when to enter and exit in the market. Knowing the basic thing will keep you ahead than others.
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January 07, 2018, 11:02:32 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

How many time did you already follow them as your signal? If just some time maybe its a luck if always rght.
As my opinion, nobody can play the market for sure, they just predict it.
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January 07, 2018, 11:26:15 PM
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In my opinion there are 2 side of analysis:
-technical analysis
-fundamental analysis

Fundamental is more important but technical has some value as well. I think technical analysis working well because many people use it and believe in it.



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