[HAVELOCK] [XBOND]

[ThickAsThieves]

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

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[bcp19]

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

I'm guessing this is the reason outstanding shares are listed as 2,018,620?

[usagi]

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

I'm guessing this is the reason outstanding shares are listed as 2,018,620?

I encourage and implore TAT investments to take advantage of people's greed and sell into the bid to 0.001/unit. Bidding over face value for a recallable face value bond is probably unwise. There are other places to put your money -- notably Graet.Loan and even Ukyo.Loan which pays 50% more than XBOND. Both of those haven't sold out their IPO yet so I don't understand why there is such a demand for XBOND.

[bcp19]

Both of those haven't sold out their IPO yet so I don't understand why there is such a demand for XBOND.

This statement alone makes me avoid them, why should I invest in something that has such weak interest in it that it can't even sell out the IPO?

[Pale Phoenix]

I encourage and implore TAT investments to take advantage of people's greed and sell into the bid to 0.001/unit. Bidding over face value for a recallable face value bond is probably unwise. There are other places to put your money -- notably Graet.Loan and even Ukyo.Loan which pays 50% more than XBOND. Both of those haven't sold out their IPO yet so I don't understand why there is such a demand for XBOND.

I would think it obvious... many people have purchased these bonds in order to have the first crack at future TAT IPO's. The daily interest may turn out to be a small part of the overall return should those IPO's behave like recent issues on Havelock and BTCT.

[usagi]

Graet.Loan and even Ukyo.Loan which pays 50% more than XBOND

They're both on BitFunder which I would rather avoid (which is understatement - I can't login into WeExchange), they don't offer perks besides interest.
There's also the issue of trusting the issuers.

Both of those haven't sold out their IPO yet so I don't understand why there is such a demand for XBOND.

This statement alone makes me avoid them, why should I invest in something that has such weak interest in it that it can't even sell out the IPO?

I'm not sure -- I had many of these same issues but I've overcome them. If you're having trouble with weexchange and bitfunder, you should probably go to IRC for help. You probably don't know this because I never see you there, but that is how you are supposed to ask for help on BitFunder. They even have an irc client on their webpage in the "help" section.

Also, if you would rather not do so personally you can get exposure to the dozen or so companies not on BTC-TC through a fund. I run one (BMF) for example and we hold a lot of Ukyo.Loan.

[Phoeynix]

Ok, so I have a question. I recently bought some shares and I have the understanding that it pays daily. When I logged onto my havelock account to see what was going on, it stated that XBOND paid out a dividend payment already today. Yet when I looked at my transaction log, it didn't state that there was a dividend deposit.

Was wondering how long or when do dividend payments appear in account?

[ThickAsThieves]

Ok, so I have a question. I recently bought some shares and I have the understanding that it pays daily. When I logged onto my havelock account to see what was going on, it stated that XBOND paid out a dividend payment already today. Yet when I looked at my transaction log, it didn't state that there was a dividend deposit.

Was wondering how long or when do dividend payments appear in account?

Working on this with Havelock. I think the div payout was glitched because I moved the funding from the source wallet to another wallet. It was fixed as soon as it was brought to my attention, but this morning's div might need to be manually pushed by Havelock to finish the fix.

[Phoeynix]

Ok, so I have a question. I recently bought some shares and I have the understanding that it pays daily. When I logged onto my havelock account to see what was going on, it stated that XBOND paid out a dividend payment already today. Yet when I looked at my transaction log, it didn't state that there was a dividend deposit.

Was wondering how long or when do dividend payments appear in account?

Working on this with Havelock. I think the div payout was glitched because I moved the funding from the source wallet to another wallet. It was fixed as soon as it was brought to my attention, but this morning's div might need to be manually pushed by Havelock to finish the fix.

I got it! Just went through, thanks for checking into this matter.

[BlockChains]

Dividend mails keep getting sent today. What's going on?

[ThickAsThieves]

Dividend mails keep getting sent today. What's going on?

Havelock had some glitches while getting back online this morning. All is well now!

[linko]

Who in the world is buying XBOND @ 0.00107700 XBT?

mind blown..

[freedomno1]

Who in the world is buying XBOND @ 0.00107700 XBT?

mind blown..

People who don't pay attention to the callback cost lol

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

[Ninshatamoto]

Who in the world is buying XBOND @ 0.00107700 XBT?

mind blown..

People who don't pay attention to the callback cost lol

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

I'm not into bonds, but do you guys feel that anything under .00105 is a value for this bond worth buying?

[freedomno1]

Who in the world is buying XBOND @ 0.00107700 XBT?

mind blown..

People who don't pay attention to the callback cost lol

Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND.

The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at greater than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you profit from coupon payments.

I'm not into bonds, but do you guys feel that anything under .00105 is a value for this bond worth buying?

Yield wise AM pays more and costs more but the value in this bond is line 2 and 6/7 days the line below that for micro bitcoiners.
BASIC has a slightly higher yield but the cost is a lot more for one Basic Share than TAT bond.

Simply put this bond is cheap enough you can probably do the free cycle at bitvisitor and buy these shares eventually although at that scale not sure how much fees factor in. (coinreaper if your in a faster mood, dailybitcoins if you use inputs io for a fast one etc)

(Go sign up for coinchat or add an ad below your posts from one of the gambling groups and you get more )
But since I went and visited it adds a shameless pr post for bothering with it
http://www.bitvisitor.com/?ref=1EByjy9e4FeGZuTV4Rx5hbf4PnFt7jGh8M

2. To provide Pre-IPO Placement access to upcoming public offerings issued by TAT Investments
These offerings may include stocks, bonds, futures and other investment opportunities.

This bond pays a fixed-rate daily coupon, or interest rate, of 0.05% (18.25% APY). Each coupon will be scheduled to payout daily at 12:00 pm EST, unless the host exchange has technical issues, in which case the payments will occur at the earliest time possible.

[noodle_dam]

I too am surprised at these prices.

I sold all my shares by now and am happy with the return. I initially bought as something to just hold and not 'trade' to see what came of this unique 'bond'. The rise made it to tempting to not dump though. I am going to miss the daily divs until the next batch comes aboard. Fair warning I will be gobbling them up to rinse/repeat.

XBOND has turned out to be pretty sweet and I have a feeling TAT has more in store for investors.

[freedomno1]

Should have just held and assumed market to be irrational awaits a second round of shares  to be released

[Draino]

it looks like he's just releasing shares willy nilly

i noticed there were ~10,000 units above the original 2,000,000 shortly after the IPO, and now it appears there's around ~20,000

brilliant idea for this bond really, ethical issues aside, manipulating the share price by buying and releasing the shares by the issuer would be a cash cow (don't mean to imply this is being done, it just occured to me the other day as the price steadily rose)

[nubbins]

August 4th, 2013 - Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND. The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at great than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you receive 5% in coupon payments.

[freedomno1]

it looks like he's just releasing shares willy nilly

i noticed there were ~10,000 units above the original 2,000,000 shortly after the IPO, and now it appears there's around ~20,000

brilliant idea for this bond really, ethical issues aside, manipulating the share price by buying and releasing the shares by the issuer would be a cash cow (don't mean to imply this is being done, it just occured to me the other day as the price steadily rose)

Well if the market doesn't read what the range should be can't really say it was the issuers fault.
Gotta blame them speculators
Besides it's already detailed

August 4th, 2013 - Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND. The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).

We can issue more bonds at will; and callback can happen at any time.

This means that if you buy an XBOND at great than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you receive 5% in coupon payments.