Learning python

[vite]

I have decided to take up a new hobby, meaning gonna learn something new.
So I will be learning python language.

I was wondering if a new base to start learning is the "learn python the hard way" a good way to get the basics of the language?

I got bored of browsing through wikipedia.

OP is not a programmer

[jackjack]

I learnt Python by forking Joric's pywallet
Maybe you can learn it by forking my fork

[KgBC]

I learnt Python by forking Joric's pywallet
Maybe you can learn it by forking my fork

I'm sure: THAT is the hard way
I don't know the book, but that's the way I would do:

First a question:
* are you already a programmer, and know what object oriented means?

If not, I would:
* get this in mind: programming is often try and fail. DONT GIVE UP if it doesn't run on the first, second or 30th try.
* take breaks if it's getting mind blowing.
* start with understanding procedural programming (not for use, just to know what programming was years before)
* try to get rid of the idea of objects / object oriented programming (this is what you will use most of the time)
--> these two doesn't have to be in python, a paper and a pencil, and taking notes what you read on the web is good enough.

If you are already a programmer (or if you finished the first):
* think of a small problem you want to solve, e.g. an simple egg timer, whatever. do KISS (keep it simple and stupid)! No fancy stuff!
* try to solve it

As soon as you have enough experience, do fancy things:
* learn about async programming, signals, twisted
* do graphics and game development
* do whatever you like

Congratulations, you are on the way to a good programmer!

[jackjack]

I learnt Python by forking Joric's pywallet
Maybe you can learn it by forking my fork

I'm sure: THAT is the hard way
I don't know the book, but that's the way I would do:

First a question:
* are you already a programmer, and know what object oriented means?

If not, I would:
* get this in mind: programming is often try and fail. DONT GIVE UP if it doesn't run on the first, second or 30th try.
* take breaks if it's getting mind blowing.
* start with understanding procedural programming (not for use, just to know what programming was years before)
* try to get rid of the idea of objects / object oriented programming (this is what you will use most of the time)
--> these two doesn't have to be in python, a paper and a pencil, and taking notes what you read on the web is good enough.

If you are already a programmer (or if you finished the first):
* think of a small problem you want to solve, e.g. an simple egg timer, whatever. do KISS (keep it simple and stupid)! No fancy stuff!
* try to solve it

As soon as you have enough experience, do fancy things:
* learn about async programming, signals, twisted
* do graphics and game development
* do whatever you like

Congratulations, you are on the way to a good programmer!

Indeed, his post made me think he already was a programmer. Anyway good tips.
If OP isn't a programmer I wouldn't advise him to look at OOP though. The need of the concept will come by itself once he reads a bit about it.
I never used OOP until recently as I never needed it before.

[KgBC]

Indeed, his post made me think he already was a programmer. Anyway good tips.
If OP isn't a programmer I wouldn't advise him to look at OOP though. The need of the concept will come by itself once he reads a bit about it.
I never used OOP until recently as I never needed it before.

Well, yes, OOP is hard to understand in first place. BUT it is state of the art
So learning programming means learning oop fairly fast. Not in the first place, but as soon as possible. There are good explanations about OOP around, I dont gave links because I think it is better to search and find what you are after currently then follow a given path wich may not be yours

As soon as projects move forward you'll die without OOP. It's just silly to do more than a 50 loc script without oop in my opinion.
And Thanks for the 'good tips'

[vite]

starting lesson 5 of http://learnpythonthehardway.org/

so far so good.

[Mike Christ]

starting lesson 5 of http://learnpythonthehardway.org/

so far so good.

Good luck!  I'm still learning python myself.  I'm still trying to figure out why I need dictionaries and arrays and junk, but I've otherwise been doing ok, making simple text games with different rooms.

[naypalm]

I learned from experience. Now I run a (crappy) search engine with python as the backend.

Protip: Buy a Raspberry pi and get creative!

[vite]

Ok, I'm still in the very very early steps, compare it to a baby that is less than a month old programming wise.
But I was reading that python has 2.x and 3.x, I think the book I'm learning from is based on 2.x, should I be worried?

[jackjack]

Not at all
Just don't ever look at Python 3 for months

It introduced incompatibilities with Python 2 but they both have the same features

[FirstAscent]

Well, yes, OOP is hard to understand in first place. BUT it is state of the art

Sort of, I guess.

I think Lisp macros are more state of the art than OOP, but Lisp has been around for 55 years. Lisp macros are Lisp functions that you write which are in your program, yet they run at compile time (not run time), and what they do is dissect your macro calls and reconstruct them into whatever code you want, which then runs at run time. And Lisp allows you to do this magnificently, because Lisp code (and Lisp macros) is nothing but an s-expression (nested lists, so to speak), which is essentially the native data structure in Lisp, thus Lisp has a rich set of functions to dissect and construct s-expressions.

[Abdullah001]

Good decision.
Python is different from C or C++ but it’s much interesting and easy to learn. There are some awesome tutorial and online courses on “coursera.org”.
Good luck

[jackjack]

Good decision.
Python is different from C or C++ but it’s much interesting and easy to learn. There are some awesome tutorial and online courses on “coursera.org”.
Good luck

Nice necro-thread
Are you gonna spam the whole forum?

[Brewins]

codeacademy
udacity(introduction to computer science or something)
Coursera(an introduction to interactive programmin with python and others.)

[Sheldor333]

Maybe start with something easier, go with C, move to C++ to learn a little bit about object orientated programming. From there you won't have any trouble learning any programming language.

[BitGoose]

i have some basic course in python , a pdf file with excersises. U want it?

[djnocide]

you can try : http://www.codecademy.com/learn

[Omikifuse]

Maybe start with something easier, go with C, move to C++ to learn a little bit about object orientated programming. From there you won't have any trouble learning any programming language.

C, C++ and object oriented stuff easier than python.

Nice trolling, dude