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Author Topic: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPENED for Chili  (Read 73031 times)
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November 06, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
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Is it possible you can send me one or two of your contamination board for experimental reasons and what should I pay for? You can send me them via padded envelope or jiffy bag. But I need them asap before all my chips has to been soldered to different ways Smiley e.g. direct jala extension,
Middle of the next week.

I need  to get them form assembly. I currently don't have time(a lot of work with boards and my day-job and some personal things tomorrow). So ASAP will not work to god for me... Don't add more then 1 or 2(it will only be 3,5 chips speed) chips to Jala...
No Problem, I would experiment something with your pcbs. If I get them faster maybe I found a way you must not put your pcbs in a tin :-)
An idea is, you should bring not all chips online at the same time. This should save your psb from higher than expected power which the bfl chips need at testing cycle.

I know that there is a limit of power distribution of the board design of the jala. The jala should distribute 75 A which is enough to support 4 chips at normal speed. But in this case the delivered PDU is to small to support more power so I've allready replaced them by a direct connection to my 1000W ATX pdu which is allready connected to my little single.

Because of the different height of the batch1 and newer chips I'll replace the 2 original chips from my second jala by the new chips and I will put the old one to the 1st jala.
It's my first reballing experience. So cross one's fingers it will work ;-)

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November 08, 2013, 09:49:01 AM
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Timeline. After I get 50 boards paid I will paid for licence and get files. After that I need 5 to 10 days to get new boards and max 5 days to get them assembled... After that I will need some time to program and test then. I was told it is about 10 minutes per board. So I will need some time to do that as well. Don't know how many boards will be but will be processed in a order of arrived orders. I will do my best to do all ASAP but it will take till 11/15 do 11/18 in best case if I get enough orders over the weekend.



Hello Lucko

To prepare and buy components (power and coolers): we can still assume  Nov 18th  as beginning date of board delivery?

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November 08, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
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Timeline. After I get 50 boards paid I will paid for licence and get files. After that I need 5 to 10 days to get new boards and max 5 days to get them assembled... After that I will need some time to program and test then. I was told it is about 10 minutes per board. So I will need some time to do that as well. Don't know how many boards will be but will be processed in a order of arrived orders. I will do my best to do all ASAP but it will take till 11/15 do 11/18 in best case if I get enough orders over the weekend.



Hello Lucko

To prepare and buy components (power and coolers): we can still assume  Nov 18th  as beginning date of board delivery?

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It all comes down to how fast I can get everything... For now looks good. But I need to look at everything as a hawk... Example of thinking that things will go as they should was BFL sending notification that chips will be send. Look at tracking. They didn't. I did figure this out in time(I hope) but assuming everything will go as it should can go wrong fast... It is a lot of things and only once falls out of place and it can go south...
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November 08, 2013, 01:54:03 PM
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I placed an order for 2 boards several days back when you first put up the order link. I haven't been contacted for payment info. So I haven't paid anything towards the boards yet.
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November 08, 2013, 06:24:48 PM
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I placed an order for 2 boards several days back when you first put up the order link. I haven't been contacted for payment info. So I haven't paid anything towards the boards yet.

Me too for diff. price from cointamination
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November 08, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
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Yes sorry we had a death in a family so I'm currently doing only extremely necessary things(like making sure all is ready for production) but not calculating what you need to pay... I'm a bit down... Personnel things on Wednesday was funeral. I was doing calculation this morning but was interrupted by customs since I had to go there again. If you are sending chips from outside EU please use FedEx since there is no complicating. USPS send it to our nation postal service and if there is just a small problem with documentation you need to do it all over and explain why you did it wrong and so on. They are pain in a ass...
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November 08, 2013, 07:11:07 PM
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Yes sorry we had a death in a family so I'm currently doing only extremely necessary things(like making sure all is ready for production) but not calculating what you need to pay... I'm a bit down... Personnel things on Wednesday was funeral. I was doing calculation this morning but was interrupted by customs since I had to go there again. If you are sending chips from outside EU please use FedEx since there is no complicating. USPS send it to our nation postal service and if there is just a small problem with documentation you need to do it all over and explain why you did it wrong and so on. They are pain in a ass...

Sorry to hear all of that. I wasn't trying to press you, take your time.
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November 08, 2013, 07:46:11 PM
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Sorry to hear all of that. I wasn't trying to press you, take your time.
I didn't think you did try that. Sorry if it come out that way...
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November 08, 2013, 08:10:06 PM
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Sorry to hear all of that. I wasn't trying to press you, take your time.
I didn't think you did try that. Sorry if it come out that way...

No not at all.
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November 10, 2013, 12:45:23 AM
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OK didn't had time to send mail to all board orders. Will continue tomorrow. It is really late hire...
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November 11, 2013, 07:59:41 AM
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From what I learned till now I would say that chip cooling is not that hard. Power supply is the hot thing... I added 2 cooling elements on the other side and a low speed fan to move some air around. It works just OK. Don't waist too much money on cooler. But you do need cooler that has big enough surface area at the bottom...

EDIT: Backplate is also recommended...
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November 11, 2013, 09:43:28 AM
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From what I learned till now I would say that chip cooling is not that hard. Power supply is the hot thing... I added 2 cooling elements on the other side and a low speed fan to move some air around. It works just OK. Don't waist too much money on cooler. But you do need cooler that has big enough surface area at the bottom...

EDIT: Backplate is also recommended...

Hi Lucko

Any chance of a photo? and some performance figures?

Also can you confirm the connector will be USB Mini (as on the chili)?

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November 12, 2013, 08:23:45 AM
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It will be same...

I will close orders in a day... And deadline for paying will be 14th 9:00AM GMT+1
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November 13, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
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It will be same...

I will close orders in a day... And deadline for paying will be 14th 9:00AM GMT+1

I sent 1.8 BTC to you it should be enough to cover my balance I may even have some coming back, it just keeps going up...
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November 14, 2013, 07:26:02 AM
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I'm exchanging the moment I see it. It is going up but correction will be brutal and I can't afford to be part of that... If you check you address you will see it was send out to exchange... Anyway I can't have it in BTC since I can't pay for parts in BTC...
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November 14, 2013, 08:54:35 AM
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Lucko can we get a time line update?
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November 14, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
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Well as I wrote 15th or 18th start is optimistic and all things must fall in line. I'm missing one parts package from US(they send USPS only) and did order at the start of the mount. Did use there fastest service but they send it a as latter and I can't track it outside US. It shows still in same location in US for 6 days now. I did call postal service today to check if it is hire. Will do that again in 3 hours. If it will not be hire I have no choice but cancel assembly for tomorrow... Even if it shows up tomorrow there is no way I can get it over customs in time...

I was thinking assembling that part by hand but it would take just too long and errors are possible...
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November 14, 2013, 09:44:14 AM
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So the boards are in hand and you are just short of one component?

Has my SEPA cleared yet?

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November 14, 2013, 12:32:04 PM
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Well as I wrote 15th or 18th start is optimistic and all things must fall in line. I'm missing one parts package from US(they send USPS only) and did order at the start of the mount. Did use there fastest service but they send it a as latter and I can't track it outside US. It shows still in same location in US for 6 days now. I did call postal service today to check if it is hire. Will do that again in 3 hours. If it will not be hire I have no choice but cancel assembly for tomorrow... Even if it shows up tomorrow there is no way I can get it over customs in time...

I was thinking assembling that part by hand but it would take just too long and errors are possible...
What part are you short?
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November 14, 2013, 02:17:55 PM
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I'm exchanging the moment I see it. It is going up but correction will be brutal and I can't afford to be part of that... If you check you address you will see it was send out to exchange... Anyway I can't have it in BTC since I can't pay for parts in BTC...

I understand, I was really just wanting to say it should more than enough I think the exchange was around $400 when I sent them and IF (and that's a big if) there was any left over that would be nice. But no I don't expect you to hold them at all sell them when you get them. There is no telling when this run up will end and oh boy we may see one big correction if the bottom falls out here. I don't want sound bearish though I am still very bullish. Is $500 next?
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