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Author Topic: [PRE-ANN] Stone - DAG Data-Structured Private Cryptocurrency  (Read 17209 times)
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December 14, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
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Introduction


Stone will be the first DAG (direct acylic graph) data-structured digital currency with private transactions, allowing instant, fee-less anonymous transaction with high scaling (up to 7,000txs per second) Stone will be forked from the RaiBlocks codebase, whilst the chain is not near completion as it currently stands and it just myself who will be working on the project, i do not offer high quality illustrations & impressive marketing, what i do offer, however is highly scalable, private, instant a fee-less transactions, all on a decentralized network once the project is complete



Work Ethics


What i can promise you

  • Dedication
  • Constant updates
  • a finished product
  • a quality product delivered in a timely manner


What i cannot promise you


  • Exchange listings
  • Price increases
  • Advertising
  • False hype
  • An unfinished product, i always complete a project.



This pre-announcement is merely just the beginning of a long path, the stepping stone for a great advance in an already amazing pre-existing technology. I cannot express enough respect Colin and his innovative idea which has solved the blockchain debacle, a incredible amount of work and dedication has gone it to his project and Stone will never discredit his efforts.


Methodology


I've been experimenting with the idea of using zkSNARKs, similar to the tech used in the ZCash cryptocurrency, this will prove to be a challenge since we are no longer using a blockchain, we are using a DAG.


From my findings with drafts between the balanced-weighted vote & sk-SNARKs, unfortunately the implementation will not transact in-line in the manner i originally set out to achieve, therefor i have played with the idea of off-chain addresses, t-addresses (Stone) for standard transactions & z-addresses (zStone), with an exact exchange between paired wallets for a private untraceable transaction. My idea further extends to to have Stodes (Nodes), which act as a direct atomic swap 1:1 with Stone & zStone, anyone would be able to see the the swap 1:1 between the two, but no one would be able to see where you have received the zStone as it was transacted off-chain.

                           OFF-CHAIN
        Bob                    ->           Alice
(zStone) Transactions    ->    (zStone)  Received


                              SWAP
         Alice                    ->            Ted (Node)      ->          Alice
(zStone) Swap 1:1        ->            Receive/Send       ->    (Stone) Received

Alice receives a private transaction from Bob via zStone, Alice now has 100 zStone, Alice now wants standard Stone, she swaps the 100 zStone for Stone 1:1 via a Stone node. The end result is Alice successfully has completed a private transaction with Bob, and swapped back into the base currency, all within the wallet, this method allows the DAG protocol to still function with its representative method.

Apologies in advance for the rough draft schematics, this is not anywhere near complete and is subject to change.

zStone would not be a separate currency and not tradable on an exchange, its simply the channel to achieve completely private transactions, with a swap 1:1 with Stone, they would not be worth anymore or any less.



Beautiful splash screen art work by rmena123




a very short summary, zkSNARKs have 4 main ingredients:


A) Encoding as a polynomial problem


The program that is to be checked is compiled into a quadratic equation of polynomials: t(x) h(x) = w(x) v(x), where the equality holds if and only if the program is computed correctly. The prover wants to convince the verifier that this equality holds.


B) Succinctness by random sampling


The verifier chooses a secret evaluation point s to reduce the problem from multiplying polynomials and verifying polynomial function equality to simple multiplication and equality check on numbers: t(s)h(s) = w(s)v(s)


This reduces both the proof size and the verification time tremendously.


C) Homomorphic encoding / encryption


An encoding/encryption function E is used that has some homomorphic properties (but is not fully homomorphic, something that is not yet practical). This allows the prover to compute E(t(s)), E(h(s)), E(w(s)), E(v(s)) without knowing s, she only knows E(s) and some other helpful encrypted values.


D) Zero Knowledge


The prover permutes the values E(t(s)), E(h(s)), E(w(s)), E(v(s)) by multiplying with a number so that the verifier can still check their correct structure without knowing the actual encoded values.


The very rough idea is that checking t(s)h(s) = w(s)v(s) is identical to checking t(s)h(s) k = w(s)v(s) k for a random secret number k (which is not zero), with the difference that if you are sent only the numbers (t(s)h(s) k) and (w(s)v(s) k), it is impossible to derive t(s)h(s) or w(s)v(s).

(Christian Reitwiessner 2016)



Distribution

One big question which is still left unanswered, and may be for some time, is distribution, I am unsure of how the coin will be distributed at these early stages, but when the time comes i’m positive the community will assist with an efficient, fair solution.



Whilst i do not wish to run a crowdsale, donations are welcome and will go towards my efforts in development. Donators will be noted in a database & published alongside Stone's main announcement, your assistance will not go unnoticed, depending on the distribution method selected as a community, donators may be included as a portion of distribution, we must first select method of distribution and work from there. For now donations should be treated as exactly that, donations.



Bitcoin:  17rta6cBBcacwbjFuWmrCpaPDN3m4jX6et

RaiBlocks: xrb_3my3e88nzaorkhcbho91seniswjz7ksiu1ddkuuu5ue3q8exiian9ikhja4g

Ethereum: 0x4Ce0650EC058449F8b936733b12E945E443EC1bD

Cardano: DdzFFzCqrhsjZUErFNMenUo52ahMKvHnqjzfXWzrbZhjxqAozaNbgcXrBqmHmAGATnKAUupSKAmnEgh 8kQuYP4Gst78yBGr4hrg4xWGs

Monero: 47AkVYEAYrtCUB7b6LpyuggTBPuWKC7edBVCWph2Vdka1pkKjND2CN85Rp5efFkKv4EHBvyVKXaHs5b bu8dFt3Qo2qmFuEA





If you wish to donate - please send a PM me which currency & amount right before the transaction is made, so i am able to keep track of transaction ownership in my speadsheet, to make things run smooth, if possible PM me the transaction ID after, and also any other contact details you wish for me to add into my documents encase i cannot contact you via PM. Sending from exchange or personal wallet are both fine, if you are sending from an exchange possibly include a refund address in your message encase of any issues.

Code:
:: DONATORS :: a share will distributed to all donators, as a way of saying thankyou.

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user113  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=3BEFAB6A5A7BA1D82FE7516961B789B710FCAEBB9D283BDDA75E2533AD3B0F82
yeahsurewhynot  |  0xc2c19864a6388444932c4c511a5a77df714cf792dbd64eb7ae2982ee650cdde9
romiyo  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xbea32950b079d4d388e15fefa91c20f0923e1c322462dca15d3ff0884d46fb33
Whatismouse  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x59ef8d9acee66afe7cdae59bde2b53109a80a96b6124cf4e814ce2921013da41
prady  |  https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/58feff834f2d1ff37406a48c15bfcecdc3e05f7b4f61d5ec40690439b49b1e64
njoroge  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xec1e726d7be2af8a0f219055eed2fbb9fc96bf1855723e11571ff9e6f121b14b
mcall  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/b6e49af48a0ede62caa16a5d0761474fbfc2acb0c5f20435f4467facdaa0da40
w***t  |  1A9B255828BE09BE6F242ECD0E5D0FA8F048449FF922DA8A46BB835D9BA3D985
Mucamo_35  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=B2C4F2BD8A55CD97D05EBEF172EEF025C4F534EB0FBBBB2A9A7148842D91F405
familytaxi  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xf3db27e8946c6c2cbb1632a1585d9f6d2e79bde9de4591f63c91577344f1a430
intellectius  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=6A6570D3C3A1988F3366C922DDE8DB07A447C109C1DE746B2B589FAED552D5B6
user113  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=3BEFAB6A5A7BA1D82FE7516961B789B710FCAEBB9D283BDDA75E2533AD3B0F82
Franke12  |  pending.
CryptoBolton  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/fd75402388593dfe1ca9b1f790de805a93b5976c9e25418a1c55a00eae6ce17e
slipstream4  |  pending.
MsCollec  |  b6be6beb305594091d82336b0533239410088f980c6569dfe3977e3146a1aa5b
Twizzwozz  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=5F9AFF31FADD014B4CE54F4C4258DEF4DC74DEE5796CB96BC88418C7FD77B44D
Yeuph  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=F7E4BEDFCFBF8DE9FDEA3B4453BAF2EB44BA747A500243F6E07AFE4AC463A90A
pararius  |  e87cbaf2da399f0133def2fd903a57116f98ed1a43f515e157fa4eded2a4927e
wjtliso  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=B7A84753CABC4E3B72BFCD924D71E56A48AB018C4C4874D84F8424AA24E548FC
Shir_man  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=2F831E8E4657D7424D4D44A10AB66A751CFB9D8ED1101AD317F3C1E852231996
LamboCalrissian  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/d31290001702b25440505a7e620e163231be6e8fea4519138cd9d14a054105f6
Xpommy  |  0xcdbe693d4a0cab5a4d66bbd25cece1855498800723285f76ade4e035ce69221f
kattifnatt  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xec1e726d7be2af8a0f219055eed2fbb9fc96bf1855723e11571ff9e6f121b14b
alikhokhar  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/1b1da1cf2ce13bfcdf235565b425344f80e7aa741c2cbf1ccd376d0c93ecd7f1
Bonobo  |  0xe291b862bdcb58c38fcde872ab0772557a233ad7951d656f1f3507acd1d6fd27
tonyskulk  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcdbe693d4a0cab5a4d66bbd25cece1855498800723285f76ade4e035ce69221f
searstream1  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=7350F1261F6D959886DCF0B28983559D64C9036B0B183A9F14690A86962C3CD2
fossie  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/acf67c93fb01ad89fc79e64167d51fb7cda2b2f205ed5ff53f6ffb8712b28bc2
testanova  |  0xd16509c238c8b752d1051604724690d26d01e4d0fa9a294c8a3dbc08e2ce7bd9
rdnkjdi  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/916f9e928ccb33fd1d7f7428f9e2c45970557abfa60a28c3ae538c8165612451
The Shogun  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=8A28E58199296726C4A18F5AB83DEC121C82A9777BF6CCC2BF090F069B818546
m4tth3w  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/e820e65c910736cf144ccc48f80f0aa1538e310b39765ecc513b4d02044ab50d
ubat  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe291b862bdcb58c38fcde872ab0772557a233ad7951d656f1f3507acd1d6fd27
user113  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=3BEFAB6A5A7BA1D82FE7516961B789B710FCAEBB9D283BDDA75E2533AD3B0F82
choooze  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=E60624CB3D3ECF9FEF3F03C0E08DFE755C325BCB58061B6678D8897BE5BA9F0B
ruupo13  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=55AA7CFBCDB60B290C969A3103AAA92D0D7FC75DE4CDC3FDB0ABBAB9F3E0941B
Carlogsan  |  https://moneroexplorer.com/tx/e5a3c72468aa6fc23456f02106b55595b45b1cb23cbfd570bbe4ffe5ac5d5c69
nfowesta  |  9sWIQ5fOC11hoMG7iPYKVIJsbfKqloRpWnKxHedQHEFNZrsCctJxV6ioL3kEsWQ4l6SJ
alikhokhar  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/1b1da1cf2ce13bfcdf235565b425344f80e7aa741c2cbf1ccd376d0c93ecd7f1
stonestonestone  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/94d321817f9f0cc7bac784c8873e8ee8a8a31fb165b22886aeb326efe566b6fd
jonnycrypto  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdb5fbc010c80d6ffdae787601f42141cb4982fc7c0477178e42e36821f2053b6
Frank Worsley  |  F62F692EFEB2D6AD6F802F5D143775B8206CDB02EBB6F967243166BAD3676EA7
MrTiesco  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=1DB993D84E7E17851567ADABC117E1B105A1A5043F092DBBF5BB35B1AC575C28
NMIQ  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x2410f7b5693248bbe3ec3dbbf8bb9016f6f681b4dfce0e28952416eded6bbab4
cryptojax |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfe8455dfdacd38b92c5d51bbf7c6449cea697bc6a2de04932135fafc6f4f3cd3
ruupo13  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=55AA7CFBCDB60B290C969A3103AAA92D0D7FC75DE4CDC3FDB0ABBAB9F3E0941B
al_an  |  please pm tx.
bullshit667  |  http://etherscan.io//tx/0x67568a80f279a36ab4c139af9bced3deb1ecf890c580b2c8ac355b13528dada7
Sindbad  |  0x390bfe7c6b484e32c1a05d0b7bfd89d58dcb8207df0223713f7fa0159e1e713b
Garethegood  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/53eff7617942566f04ce0cc65f5016026355668cfbca724f6f821633f5989557
MrTiesco  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=1DB993D84E7E17851567ADABC117E1B105A1A5043F092DBBF5BB35B1AC575C28
krznW5T6  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=396ACFF9A5E8EBFA9E1823FDBF3E7436F44562EA08CFAC6335319DB119382318
diab0lus  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc0b74b44eee8c59a77039d5712328ef790edb3016b21359d6e1064d5b98e8c00
al_an  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x6f23e8549771bc7a1dd9ddfebbeb47485cd2ab7b48be371a12f5441351cf4b2d
diab0lus  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc0b74b44eee8c59a77039d5712328ef790edb3016b21359d6e1064d5b98e8c00
dudja  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/4494b044c4ccb94310a9a80f91a0687350c2b3b67ac1f921631f59c9907296ad
mr001  |  pending.
eberson7  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=C103DFFD08FDF42704C19B7401295F4D5752B7D84B833A7667E03420316130AD
tiger222  |  0xfb8a79044e82a90be6aee81dadeb786a70450e8db79aeb6ea4202bb6d117a62b
bitcoinuserz  |  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x163fe0d66a75f4746aa2b5588a470d85b688229ccac986eac7b67dd20f238882
sekai_no_owari  |  0x6fc8a4b93c1ce71ea7ddb771e0558930ccece21c61d7a66ba5535ef92d56752d
prady  |  https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/58feff834f2d1ff37406a48c15bfcecdc3e05f7b4f61d5ec40690439b49b1e64
berns111  |  pending.
Benezim  |  0x92e274a7731ba24bbb595d76f97e182643c61cc51acf60fb8516bd2e13f7a022
milesf  |  https://raiblocks.net/block/index.php?h=9BF365603755349F189E70CB72BA6BD3483DCA4E4367F46ACA64EC6FEAF5C3B8
Aeo1111  |  pending.
El_Duderino_  |  https://blockchain.info/tx/db231ab92765338a9ced029d4f094bc485a16640b95e6a3e39384aca5c19c0a1



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References:
RaiBlocks Announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1381323.0
RaiBlocks whitepaper: https://raiblocks.net/media/RaiBlocks_Whitepaper.pdf
zkSNARKs: https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/12/05/zksnarks-in-a-nutshell/
Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
DAG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitive_reduction

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self-moderated. Why is that?

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self-moderated. Why is that?

Hi there , For the same reason most projects self-moderate, to prevent spam & fud.

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December 14, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
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I've been meaning to learn more about DAG protocols and also zkSNARKs, so now I can do both in one place  Smiley. Gonna be watching this one.

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I've been meaning to learn more about DAG protocols and also zkSNARKs, so now I can do both in one place  Smiley. Gonna be watching this one.
I appreciate your support, i will do my best to educate not only myself but others around me of these protocols & technologies along the way.

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 RaiBlocks is an interesting coin, I've been doing it since February this year, but how much do I remember they have a problem with the wallet? are you from the team? what exactly do you want to change? or just a fork? and the moderated branch will only push you away. (I think only if the Russian branch  Grin)
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 RaiBlocks is an interesting coin, I've been doing it since February this year, but how much do I remember they have a problem with the wallet? are you from the team? what exactly do you want to change? or just a fork? and the moderated branch will only push you away. (I think only if the Russian branch  Grin)
Correct, it's an extremely interesting creation by Colin, and i do believe DAG based currencies will be the future, which is why i am starting work on the first optional-anonymous based DAG, i am not from the RaiBlocks team, Stone will be a fork, the first fork to my knowledge.

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I think this is great project, do you have another information about this project like website, roadmap and whitepaper?

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Link to the github?
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I think this is great project, do you have another information about this project like website, roadmap and whitepaper?

Hi, this is a pre-ann, so its a stripped down version lacking all the fluff. I'm not attempting to sell a product, so i feel there is need to create hype whitepapers + website's at the moment, the code  will speak for itself, after there's a working version, we will focus on advertising.

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The key concept in your project is a free instant transaction. If it falls on the leading stock exchanges, the transport of funds between exchanges and purses will be carried out through this coin. But, how will the services of the master classes be paid?

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We can't just take your word though. Circumstances I think needs precautions Cheesy Is there an escrow that you think can help you have the funds which will be  released every time is needed? Multisig of course. We all know the scammers attempt here so that's just a fair condition. Hope this don't get deleted. Crossfingers!

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Do you need help with making it? I'd like to give a hand on a few simpler tasks.
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I agree that DAG is the future. However, have you considered joining the Raiblocks team to help develop privacy solutions? It seems to me that we should concentrate our efforts to gather the best team around this great technology.

Saying that, I love the name STONE and it's logo. Sounds a way better brand than raiblocks to me.
Will you be setting up a twitter account or a telegram announcements group? It would be great for those of us who want to follow this project closely.

EDIT: one more question... Byteball, another DAG cryptocurrency already has it's own privacy solution in the form of Blackbites. In what way will your coin have an advantage over it (besides being fee-less)?

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December 14, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
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Good idea. It will be popular for sure.

I just wish people would contact the main project and suggest the idea before forking off to another project.

We can accomplish more together folks.  Kiss

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Interesting concepts and have some innovative functions. the hard work of dev is worth encouraging and appreciating. hope it will be successful.

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you say "Stone will be forked from the RaiBlocks codebase"
so Stone will have the same supply like Raiblocks $XRB? around 133M (after burn) or around 300M (before burn)?

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December 15, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
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Interesting, need some more info from you dev and the project, I will donate some BTC to $STONE as I did for $XEL. Hope to hear some more news on this project soon. Cheers. Grin

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December 15, 2017, 04:13:01 AM
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Interesting, need some more info from you dev and the project, I will donate some BTC to $STONE as I did for $XEL. Hope to hear some more news on this project soon. Cheers. Grin

Thank you, appreciate that.

you say "Stone will be forked from the RaiBlocks codebase"
so Stone will have the same supply like Raiblocks $XRB? around 133M (after burn) or around 300M (before burn)?

These details are yet to be determined, but i'm leaning towards a 100M supply cap.


Whilst we are on the subject, would anyone like to suggest a fair method of distribution? I'm not interested in large holders gaining most of the supply, i don't approve of these pump schemes. I've been pondering around a multi-method distribution, similar to a bitcoin airdrop, but with using multi currency snapshot 70% to XRB/BTC, and with the remaining 30% to donators. This is just a thought, please don't be afraid to suggest idea's.

Stone -  RaiBlocks Fork with privacy features - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762
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December 15, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
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Now this sounds like a good idea.

No wasting time, no marketing smoke and mirrors, just a focus on development.

How long do you think this will take?

Will you need a trusted setup with key signing like for ZCash?

I heard there is a thing called ZStarks (or something like that) that does not require the trusted setup.

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