The Identity of Satoshi Nakamoto

[Bunsomjelican]

Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.

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[realdantreccia]

We are all Satoshi.  But specifically? Look to the world's best and brightest. Thank you best and brightest. I'm a fan.

[Sithara007]

Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.

His identity is not important, but his invention is. If he had any interest in revealing his identity, then he could have done that a long time back. But he has chose to remain anonymous, and we need to respect that decision. There is a chance that in future he may change this decision, but I am not really concerned about it. It will have very little impact on the acceptability and prices.

[Bitcoinqubit]

Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

another shit crap post ... like the most ...

1. its not the first time people do all kind of projects under one name in the internet and not the last....for sure

2. its not one person ...and never will be...uneducated people love throw bullshit and they invest also in crap shit coins

3. bitcoin idea came from the idea of peer to peer sharing file like napster and muse and bittornet ...its came just with twist

4. before bitcoin came to the world people that associated with very smart underground people which expose and leak information about whats happen in this place and put their ass in huge risk....this people already was talked about peer to peer as gold tech which can revolutionise almost any vertical ...


5. so sad to see people here post ton of shit crap bullshit non sense and where its end they fall in huge scams....irony


someone say bitcoin is experiment of banks this guy totally super dumb and also probably invest huge of money in xrp and wait to hit 50 usd hhhh i almost sure from his dumbess

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what strange before bitcoin come there was people was talking about that peer to peer file sharing can make financial freedom,,,Edward Snowden one of them....


so sad to see tons posts of crap shit without any deep research and checking and much more...its not hard

[Bitcoinqubit]

sorry to say and i dont love to hurt but totally crap bullshit post which waist time without any deep research and nothing as always people fall the scams coins....


so fucking simple


Napster (Napster was Fanning's nickname in high school, because of his hair) is a different way to distribute MP3 files. Instead of storing the songs on a central computer, the songs live on users' machines. This is called peer-to-peer sharing, or P2P

[walerikus]

Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

There is a difference in Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finneys behavior on writing. Satoshi always use double space after each sentence (dot), Hal Finey use only one space.

[finaleshot2016]

I guess it's very useless to know the identity of Satoshi now, bitcoin has a better flow in the market without his presence. So even Satoshi Nakamoto is Hal Finneys so what, do they really needed in the community now?

Once the real satoshi reveals himself, politics will enter the cryptocurrency and the purpose of bitcoin will be defeated. That's the reason why the identity of the founder is still anonymous since 2009. It's been 10 years and still no single information about satoshi has been revealed.

[Shasha80]

It's true we all must be curious as to what the legendary figure of satoshi nakamoto has been able to create bitcoin.
But think about it carefully by all of us, if we know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will make conditions better.
And we can benefit. The answer is clearly no, so I think it's better for satoshi nakamoto to remain anonymous.
Because this is the best choice, we just focus on bitcoin. That is certainly bitcoin is more able to provide benefits.

[alexsandria]

I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

[joe50]

Finney was a cypherpunk and said:

It seemed so obvious to me: "Here we are faced with the problems of loss of privacy, creeping computerization, massive databases, more centralization - and [David] Chaum offers a completely different direction to go in, one which puts power into the hands of individuals rather than governments and corporations. The computer can be used as a tool to liberate and protect people, rather than to control them."

He was an early Bitcoin user and received the first bitcoin transaction from Bitcoin's creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Finney lived in the same town for 10 years that Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto lived (Temple City, California), adding to speculation that he may have been Bitcoin's creator.[10] Finney denied that he was Satoshi Nakamoto.


He also lived a few blocks from a man named Dorian Nakamoto, according to Forbes journalist Andy Greenberg.[30] Greenberg asked the writing analysis consultancy Juola & Associates to compare a sample of Finney's writing to Satoshi Nakamoto's, and they found that it was the closest resemblance they had yet come across (including the candidates suggested by Newsweek, Fast Company, The New Yorker, Ted Nelson and Skye Grey).[30] Greenberg theorized that Finney may have been a ghostwriter on behalf of Nakamoto, or that he simply used his neighbor Dorian's identity as a "drop" or "patsy whose personal information is used to hide online exploits". However, after meeting Finney, seeing the emails between him and Nakamoto and his bitcoin wallet's history (including the very first bitcoin transaction from Nakamoto to him, which he forgot to pay back) and hearing his denial, Greenberg concluded that Finney was telling the truth. Juola & Associates also found that Nakamoto's emails to Finney more closely resemble Nakamoto's other writings than Finney's do.

In a May 2011 article, Szabo stated about the bitcoin creator: "Myself, Wei Dai, and Hal Finney were the only people I know of who liked the idea (or in Dai's case his related idea) enough to pursue it to any significant extent until Nakamoto (assuming Nakamoto is not really Finney or Dai).

During the last year of his life, the Finneys received anonymous calls demanding an extortion fee of 1,000 bitcoin. They became victims of swatting – a hoax "where the perpetrator calls up emergency dispatch using a spoofed telephone number and pretends to have committed a heinous crime in the hopes of provoking an armed police response to the victim's home".[11] Extortionists have demanded fees of more bitcoins than Finney had left after using the majority of them to cover medical expenses in 2013.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto

My conclusion
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai
Double spending was written by Hal Finney

[joe50]

Finney did an interview right before his death while he new perfectly well this was be his last interview. He had no reason to not reveal if he was SN, moreover, he told he wasn't Satoshi

If you were him... will you protect your family interest, he may likely does not want anyone to disturb his family codes. He's a wise man.

This reminds me of a story where a black politician man built a company in the name of a white man to free himself off corruption allegation. He planned with the white man and used the white name on the documents and handed over to him. guess what? the white man handed all documents to his son killed himself, when the black man came for him documents, the son won the case and claim the company.

[imstillthebest]

I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

just because they ban cryptos does that mean they hate the creater or will jail the creator ? no that is not a right thing to do . for example other currency or payment method , other country does not also allow them but did they accuse the creator of those currency and payment methods ? no  they didnt .

why cant you just look on the bright side and think that satoshi can convince those country if what are the good benefits the bitcoin can bring  . he will recieve an award instead of getting him into jail .

[peter0425]

I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

just because they ban cryptos does that mean they hate the creater or will jail the creator ? no that is not a right thing to do . for example other currency or payment method , other country does not also allow them but did they accuse the creator of those currency and payment methods ? no  they didnt .

why cant you just look on the bright side and think that satoshi can convince those country if what are the good benefits the bitcoin can bring  . he will recieve an award instead of getting him into jail .

but the problem is Satoshi is not there to depend Himself or to do that what you are saying a Convincing effort.
this is the big problem because they are just throwing stone to the creator but nothing can do to depend.
but let them do their thing and let us wait when the Adoption happen because for sure they will regret what actions they are doing right now.

[Zemomtum]

These are good findings of Hal Finney and there are many claiming to be the creator of Bitcoin, the famous from them being  Craig Steven Wright. But does the identity really matter now? The person or group of people has given us how to be financial independent using blockchain technology which is decentralized and not in control of any.  That is really worth more of a discussion than finding who is Satoshi.

[gundala]

I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

That could be the worst possibility. Bitcoin is very controversial, right? Although there are certain reasons behind the hiding of that identity, it must be the best choice of the genius of a person or group that makes this bitcoin. Everything is planned and calculated carefully. Then, how important is it actually for us to find out who Satoshi really is? I think it's just selfishness, I already feel happy enough to be able to use cryptocurrency to benefit.

[Betwrong]

I agree with those saying that it doesn't matter who was the creator of Bitcoin. It's a great invention, and I personally will always be grateful to that person, but since I'm no tax authority I don't care about his/her legal name. Also, what I'm pretty sure of is that that person can't care less about me knowing or not their real name either.

[adaseb]

He is not Satoshi Nakamoto, why? Here is one clue.

Look at the very first transaction that took place, basically Satoshi sent Hal 10 BTC to this address

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

Now that address belongs to Hal. It had a transaction in 2017, years after his death, it sent 0.0343BTC somewhere, probably some exchange. Most likely its his family member who made the transaction. That amount is only $300 or so.

If he really was Satoshi, his family would have access to 1 million BTC and most likely from time to time be selling 50 BTC blocks worth half a million instead of only $300. If you had over $10 billion, would you go thru the hassle to claim $300?

This doesn't make sense. He is not Satoshi. This is only one reason of many.

[okae]

...If he really was Satoshi, his family would have access to 1 million BTC and most likely from time to time be selling 50 BTC blocks worth half a million instead of only $300. If you had over $10 billion, would you go thru the hassle to claim $300?

This doesn't make sense. He is not Satoshi. This is only one reason of many.

Why not? not everyone must think like you, i admit that is really strange ofc, but Hall was a strange&brilliant guy, maybe he put some specials conditions to his family about his fortune... who know? there is lot of things that we "will" never know, people should never discard any possibilities...

[Granxis]

I was interested in who Satoshi Nakamoto was, and I have researched many times, but I don't wonder anymore.
Satoshi Nakamoto would have done this if he wanted to explain himself, but he preferred to be secret, and I respect his decision.
Bitcoin created by Satoshi Nakamoto is now more than 10 years old, this is written in the history of economics.

[Tolosi]

Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?