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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin

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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2008. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Wow you have a lot of time to create a theory whose Satoshi is.

Anyway this is just speculation and all of your arguments has no proof that Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. If he is, since he is already dead it is impossible to get an admission.

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January 03, 2018, 02:51:36 AM
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Forgot to add this Double Spending Article written by Hal:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/
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January 03, 2018, 02:59:32 AM
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin

NAshamoka Satoshi is NSA, and the NSA doesn't bring 'gifts', they bring handcuff's, BTC white-paper was a 'cookbook'

"How to Cook Man" - NSA 1996, 2009 "How to Make a Mint"

"Good Technology" that's a good one, got to leave it to the none-coders to call a 'hack' as 'good technology',

I think it was better to quote 'death & taxes' from this forum, "NAsh-Sak" was neither a crypto-man, or a very good coder, the explanation for BTC CORE 1.0 is that it was deliberately created by a team of engineers with an explicit goal.

All algo's used were NSA proprietary, and weak ones at that,

Most troubling is that NAsh-Sak's 'white paper' is a mirror image of the NSA-1996 doc "How to make a mint", yet NAsh-Sak fails to credit the 1996 paper, in his 2009 white-paper. Got to wonder why, if he wasn't NSA then he would have had no problem, after all he used NSA SHA256, yet his doc is a copy of a NSA doc with no credit, only one explanation, he didn't want people to connect the dots that it was an NSA operation.

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Lastly, go to google-youtube, search the Hal Finney interview before he died, he had no reason near death to not admit if he was, he was not, and he said he was "NOT".
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January 03, 2018, 03:03:32 AM
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Forgot to add this Double Spending Article written by Hal:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

Hal is dead, so its the perfect GOV foil, to place BTC on a dead-man, who himself admitted prior to death that "HE WAS NOT NAsh-Sakamota"

Near death interview, why would Hal deny it? Fear of what upon his death?

There are many people suspected, but BTC is clearly an NSA operation that involved many ppl

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Most interesting is that the day NAsh-Sakamota dissapeared, is the same day first-gen 'team core' met at CIA HQ, ... funny how that worked out Smiley

Once BTC caught the eye of CIA, NSA was done, they knew CIA ( idiots ) would take over BTC raise it as their own.

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PPL who want to know the real, go to thepiratebay.org, and download the torrent 'bitcoin papers/btc email log 2009-2011, those entire two years all NAsh-Sak notes are saved from the crypto-blog, read carefully learn something about the real early history of BTC, not the fabled bullshit taught on this forum by day-trading myth-makers.
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January 03, 2018, 03:29:09 AM
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin

NAshamoka Satoshi is NSA, and the NSA doesn't bring 'gifts', they bring handcuff's, BTC white-paper was a 'cookbook'

"How to Cook Man" - NSA 1996, 2009 "How to Make a Mint"

"Good Technology" that's a good one, got to leave it to the none-coders to call a 'hack' as 'good technology',

I think it was better to quote 'death & taxes' from this forum, "NAsh-Sak" was neither a crypto-man, or a very good coder, the explanation for BTC CORE 1.0 is that it was deliberately created by a team of engineers with an explicit goal.

All algo's used were NSA proprietary, and weak ones at that,

Most troubling is that NAsh-Sak's 'white paper' is a mirror image of the NSA-1996 doc "How to make a mint", yet NAsh-Sak fails to credit the 1996 paper, in his 2009 white-paper. Got to wonder why, if he wasn't NSA then he would have had no problem, after all he used NSA SHA256, yet his doc is a copy of a NSA doc with no credit, only one explanation, he didn't want people to connect the dots that it was an NSA operation.

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Lastly, go to google-youtube, search the Hal Finney interview before he died, he had no reason near death to not admit if he was, he was not, and he said he was "NOT".

Of course Hal had a reason to deny at time of death. Hackers would always bother his family trying to find the 1M Bitcoins. Common sense.
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January 03, 2018, 06:55:43 AM
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why you care about  Satoshi Nakamoto it is better to stay more time earning and buying more bitcoin before  price rising again.


good tracking and hope your get the fact
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January 03, 2018, 07:24:14 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto identity is still forbidden. He introduce an amazing technology to people that lead us to new heights of revolution. 

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January 03, 2018, 07:29:31 AM
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That you for your time to write this findings but we are not interested in knowing the actual identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. A person who created a technology like blockchain and bitcoin, deserves some respect and peace in life. If his actual identity is revealed in any way, all enforcement agencies will run behind him and he will be behind the bars in no time. I think he doesn't deserve it. So I will refrain myself from finding and knowing his real identity. Try not to continue your searches for Mr. Nakamoto. Let him live in peace. A person who has the idea and capability to create such massive internet economy, let us show our respect to him by not trying to find him.

   
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Really a good research on the big question of the crypto world. Pay my thanks to him to bring cryptocurrency and blockchain tech to the market.  Grin Grin
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January 03, 2018, 07:56:38 AM
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I think there are more reasons why the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto remains unknown. Maybe he thinks that it is better for his life to be in private or just work in background. Even he is dead or alive, his legacy will stay in the world of technology and continue to give opportunity to those who want to succeed financially.

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There is no point to continually look for the real identity of Bitcoin's founder as it was his wish to remain unknown and not be explored. It would be an insult to his wishes and maybe his legacy if we are to continue on digging the dirt just to find the clues as to his real existence and where he can be found. I am sure that this topic alone can stimulate curiosity with people who loves the mysteries and the unknown but let's leave Satoshi Nakamoto where he left off. Instead, what we should do is give appreciation to the man who pave the way for the many blessings and benefits that cryptocurrency (with Bitcoin at the top) is bringing to us. Thanks a lot to Satoshi Nakamoto. By the way, is he a Japanese?
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Really a good research on the big question of the crypto world. Pay my thanks to him to bring cryptocurrency and blockchain tech to the market.  Grin Grin

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January 03, 2018, 11:47:25 PM
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Wow.

Interesting theory, but hard to take serious without any hard proof, such as the records of the "real" Satoshi Nakamoto who lived a couple of houses down from Hal Kinney...

I'm curious to hear from any original members of this forum to get their opinions on the interactions of satoshi nakamoto and hal in the early days of this forum's life. Are any still around? Maybe they can shed some light on how the interactions were way back when.

And can you reference any of the posts made by satoshi's account during the U.S. timezone hours? In fact, just any of the interesting posts made by satoshi's account? I'm curious to learn some documented history of Bitcoin's origins.

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wow,such a great explanation by a fellow ,meanwhile the big news papers and channels give bullshit reason to claim someone is satoshi nakamoto
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March 09, 2018, 07:36:02 AM
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Regardless of whether he is Satoshi... God bless Hal Finney for his PGP work, among other things:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)

R.I.P. Hal Finney and Thank-you.
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March 15, 2018, 08:28:34 AM
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Nice post.
Interesting findings, and some good points.

However, is it possible that Hal was not Satoshi because:

Since Hal is passed, it seems that the wolves are in the field to bring down bitcoin.

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But this said. again, do not mess with me. I have a lot of patience, but those who did harm in any way my project, my child, who did
try to fool people to claim identity or credits.

Be assured, I will go after you.

All the Best,

Well, You know who I am, if not, that's fine too.
 

So no, it is not born in the USA, neither the UK or Australia.

Because I knew I was just the initiator, I was depended on the brain of Hal to finetune the project.
Yes my friends, Hal did wrote the first prototype based on my scientific work, using my Handle.
Yes, Hal did cover my back.
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My dear friend you are wrong  Craig Steven Wright is believed to be the real creator of bitcoins .Craig is an Australian computer scientist and business personality. In a conference conducted with the press media he declared himself to be the real satoshi and later he was asked to prove that he is the real then he did not do so as he himself has made a fortune out of it and he even gave demonstration on how he did it to prove that it he has done and it was shown on several media  like the BBC channel also witnessed his demonstration and i also believe him to be the real creator.No matter who created btc it is the best investment of this current scenario.
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My dear friend you are wrong  Craig Steven Wright is believed to be the real creator of bitcoins .Craig is an Australian computer scientist and business personality. In a conference conducted with the press media he declared himself to be the real satoshi and later he was asked to prove that he is the real then he did not do so as he himself has made a fortune out of it and he even gave demonstration on how he did it to prove that it he has done and it was shown on several media  like the BBC channel also witnessed his demonstration and i also believe him to be the real creator.No matter who created btc it is the best investment of this current scenario.

He was never able to prove that he controls the original genesis bitcoin address (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa) that was used to mine the genesis block as he was not able to sign a message from it. Stop spreading fud.

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why you care about  Satoshi Nakamoto it is better to stay more time earning and buying more bitcoin before  price rising again.


good tracking and hope your get the fact
Why not, he care about satoshi? Do you think your earning is bigger than he is? Reading about the theory is interesting. Not only learn how to earn few cents of bitcoin. everyone has interest, no one can control it. So it is not a mistake to talk about Satoshi Nakamoto.
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March 25, 2018, 12:57:22 AM
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I don't care for Satoshi Nakamoto real identity. Being anonymous will keep his safety and privacy. Let's be thankful to him for introducing new technoly and really big help us and I really believed in Digital currencies. To Satoshi Nakamoto I really salute you.

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I don't care for Satoshi Nakamoto real identity. Being anonymous will keep his safety and privacy. Let's be thankful to him for introducing new technoly and really big help us and I really believed in Digital currencies. To Satoshi Nakamoto I really salute you.

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True, Satoshi Nakamoto can not choose to remain secret because of a meaningless reason. A(the) mind(s) that builds Bitcoin and blockchain technology should respect this if it wants to remain anonymous.

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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


If he is he,  Gavin Andresen (one of notable bitcoin creator but not satoshi) must knew him.
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It doesn't matter who Satoshi really is. His anonymous identity is what kinda gives Bitcoin its true decentralized legitness.
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Well it does matter

At the same time they KILLED

Richard Crandall ( director of cryptography at apple ) reed college

Steve Jobs ( Reed college )

& Hal Finney cal-tech

Now Hal went to cal-tech with Wolfram, who was good friends with Crandall,

Just days before Crandall died he was bitching about what the NSA had done to Apple

Yes, Hal Finney is Natoshi-Sakamota NSA, Hal worked for NSA, but he talked too much with the crypto community

Wolfram is the only person in this group still living, Jobs refused to let Apple be screwed by NSA(CIA/FBI)

Hal Finney was at the center of all the top encryption people at this time ( birth of btc )
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The father of bitcoin was a god who first published a white paper on bitcoin and wrote the earliest version of bitcoin. Countless people worshipped his elaborate design ideas and neat code structure, yet no one had ever seen him in real life. Whoever it is, he brings us the best blockchain technology.
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Thank you for giving me more knowledge about the origin of Bitcoin. I have read and read a lot. But I respect their anonymous regulations ... I study the Bitcoin market and see what the investment should be? where? ... to make a profit. What great features does Bitcoin have for me ... And that might be the best way for me to demonstrate the purpose of the bitcoin maker.
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Satoshi is just a pseudonyme, that a team or a guy used to build a new concept in his room.
This name is probably related to nothing, and even you can be sure that if it is only one person behind it, he wouldn't be dumb enough to tell it to the world.
As soon as he would tell it, his life would be a nightmare.

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For this reason there are many theories. Who is this Satoshi Nakamoto? I still believe that it is not one person but a group of people. All the same, one person can't create such a huge system. Strange that its assets still remain untouched. Most likely we won't know who he is or who they are.
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Acknowledgement is good that is why knowing who is satoshi nakamoto is good that is why if we need more information about satoshi nakamoto maybe you need to search it in google for you to know many things but this thread will help us to have sufficient idea about sotoshi nakamoto so, we do not need to search anymore.

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an info like this is commendable. because of this thread people will gain more knowledge / thanks for sharing
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Satoshi Nakamoto is not even an actual name for whoever created bitcoin, they use that pseudonym in order to keep their identity secret and I have to say it is working out for them very fine all these years. No one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is, we don't even know if it is actually one person or actually a group of people who used a single name to throw everyone off.
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I think Satoshi Nakamoto is not one person. It's probably a group of people. It is impossible for one person to create such a grandiose project. To do this, he must be either crazy or the greatest genius.

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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.



Maybe your right,Mr SATOSHI NAKAMOTO is a mysterious man, no one really know him so we can't really give the exact identity of him.
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Why are you wasting time on this, if the person does not want to reveal his identity ? Don't you think he is doing so with some purpose ?
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Are you sure about satoshi nakamoto is hal finney ? i thought satoshi nakamoto is an unknown organization.
it has a possibility that satoshi nakamoto is not an individual person. it can be a group of some peoples.
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It was interesting to read Smiley
Once again I am surprised at how people are persistent, ready to spend time studying and searching for information, if something really interests them.
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No matter who he/she was thanks to this human being for bringing us to crypto industry. Because if don't many people are also in the poor state of living. Bitcoin helps poor people to lift up their life of living in this world that you can't live without money.
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Also the founder of the Bitcoin Foundation published today in the blog The Monetary Future an entry titled "How I Met Satoshi Nakamoto", in which he detailed the details of the secret around the name of the creator of bitcoin (the translation of the article is available here).
Earlier lengthy investigations were conducted by other well-known publications, including The New Yorker, Fast Company and Newsweek, putting forward a wide variety of versions.
For the first time, that the name of Satoshi Nakmoto may be hiding, Craig Wright became known in December last year, when such conclusions were made in the course of his own investigations by the journalists of the publications Wired and Gizmodo.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is called the discoverer of Bitcoin. But no identity was found even today.
In other words, we can say that we are the people (Satoshi Nakamoto) who are closely related to Bitcoin. Those who transection criptocurrency transactions, who know the details of Criptocurrency, who are involved from the starting time with BTC BTC.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is a name everyone knows today. The creator of bitcoin, a mystery man. Surely no one knows what language Nakamoto speaks from childhood in Japanese or English. The age of the founder of bitcoin is also unknown. The information about this person for eight years painstakingly collected by researchers. But none of them managed to bring the basic facts from the biography of Nakamoto.
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

Nakamoto satoshi whose real name is Dorian S Nakamoto was born in Japan in 1949. then when he was 10 years old he immigrated to the United States. He lives in a modest 2-story house on the outskirts of Los Angeles.

he went on to major in physics at California State Polytechnic University. Nakamoto then worked in a number of companies.

In 2008, Satoshi published a paper that outlined the concept, and wrote the original software that underlies the rise of Bitcoin. in 2009 Bitcoin began to be used and so shook the world, and the birth of Bitcoin itself is a great achievement that could change the world economy forever.

Bitcoin Inti (formerly known as Bitcoin-Qt). in 2008, Nakamoto published a paper on the Cryptography Mail List at metzdowd.com describing the bitcoin digital currency. In 2009, they released the first bitcoin software that launched the first network and unit of bitcoin cryptocurrency, called Bitcoins.

nakamoto continues to collaborate with other developers on bitcoin software until mid-2010.at this time, they handed control of the source code repository and key networks alerted to Gavin Andresen, transferring multiple domains linked to various prominent members of the bitcoin community, and quitting their involvement in the project.

a public bitcoin transaction log shows that the Nakamoto wallet contains approximately one million Bitcoins. As of June 2015, it is equivalent to US $ 250 million .
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What do you think of the recent news that the UK based nonprofit organization has managed to discover his true identity? Reliable sites have reported about this, although they've been quite reserved...
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For a blockchain entity and a digital money, i think there is no need to know who the creator was. As long as the coin is perfectly operating and it is legit, and the name of the creator speaks itself. I just need a coin who is stable and that's what bitcoin is.

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For a blockchain entity and a digital money, i think there is no need to know who the creator was. As long as the coin is perfectly operating and it is legit, and the name of the creator speaks itself. I just need a coin who is stable and that's what bitcoin is.

Actually you're right, nobody knows who really is Satoshi Nakamoto is, whoever he or she is I know that he's hiding his identity to the public just for the security of his family and for other reason. And whoever the founder of Bitcoin, thank you for this technology.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is a name everyone knows today. The creator of bitcoin, a mystery man. Surely no one knows what language Nakamoto speaks from childhood in Japanese or English. The age of the founder of bitcoin is also unknown. The information about this person for eight years painstakingly collected by researchers. But none of them managed to bring the basic facts from the biography of Nakamoto.

In 2009 in a cryptographic mailing list by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi left the project at the end of 2010 without telling much about him. Bitcoin community is growing rapidly as many developers are working on Bitcoin.
Satoshi's anonymity often leads to false concerns, mostly related to a misunderstanding of the nature of open source-based Bitcoins. BItcoin protocols and software are publicly published and developers from around the world can review the code or make their own modified version of Bitcoin software. As with current developers, Satoshi's influence is limited to some of the changes he created and adopted by other developers, and he does not control Bitcoin. Thus, finding the identity of the inventor of Bitcoin is now just like finding the identity of the inventor of the newspaper.
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until now still a mystery
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
I guess, this rightly should be the attitude and not continually seek to unravel the man behind the mask who doesn't want to be known. Sometimes I wonder if finding who Satoshi is will further propel the movement of bitcoin? I seriously doubt. The only thing that revelation will achieve will be to put Satoshi's life in danger. Nothing else.

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A person who created a technology like blockchain and bitcoin, deserves some respect and peace in life. If his actual identity is revealed in any way, all enforcement agencies will run behind him and he will be behind the bars in no time. I think he doesn't deserve it. So I will refrain myself from finding and knowing his real identity
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Lots of theories and speculations of who Satoshi Nakamoto really is. Well, for me, I don't really give a fuss if he is only one person or they are a group of person. What is important is the masterpiece he/they made. I'm curious about their reason and how they came up with the idea. Well, I'm greatful for this invention for it helps people who wants to invest and earn money on their own way at the same time learning more from this forum.
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Nobody knows  the true satoshi nakamoto  but whoever he/they is we'll be thankful for creating bitcoin and thats the important.
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All of this is just speculation and speculation... It's unlikely we'll ever know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, and it doesn't matter! The main thing here is that someone was able to create a blockchain and Bitcoin  and just  given gratis  them to us.

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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
Right. Although everyone does not know the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, we all must thank Satoshi Nakamoto, because he has created a new future for everyone.

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There is much speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual and there are some who think that they are a community, and certainly no one knows Satoshi Nakamoto, and it is dangerous if the identity of Satoshi is found and certainly many criminals will target that is why the identity is kept secret from all the public, and certainly everyone will be grateful to Satoshi Nakamoto has created bitcoin to help the world economy and everyone is sure, even though we do not know the existence of Satoshi Nakamoto.
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There is much speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual and there are some who think that they are a community, and certainly no one knows Satoshi Nakamoto, and it is dangerous if the identity of Satoshi is found and certainly many criminals will target that is why the identity is kept secret from all the public, and certainly everyone will be grateful to Satoshi Nakamoto has created bitcoin to help the world economy and everyone is sure, even though we do not know the existence of Satoshi Nakamoto.
Are you sure that bitcoin was created to help the world economy? I'm not sure. Maybe bitcoin was created to deprive Americans of the status of a leader in the global financial market? Maybe bitcoin was part of the plan to avoid payments in dollars? In this case, the community under the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto have something to fear and they will never compromise themselves.
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Quite convincingly everything sounds, but I do not think that bitcoin was created by one person. Under the personality of Satoshi Nakamoto, a whole team is hiding, and perhaps Hal Finney was part of this team.

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There is much speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual and there are some who think that they are a community, and certainly no one knows Satoshi Nakamoto, and it is dangerous if the identity of Satoshi is found and certainly many criminals will target that is why the identity is kept secret from all the public, and certainly everyone will be grateful to Satoshi Nakamoto has created bitcoin to help the world economy and everyone is sure, even though we do not know the existence of Satoshi Nakamoto.
Are you sure that bitcoin was created to help the world economy? I'm not sure. Maybe bitcoin was created to deprive Americans of the status of a leader in the global financial market? Maybe bitcoin was part of the plan to avoid payments in dollars? In this case, the community under the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto have something to fear and they will never compromise themselves.
Satoshi Nakamoto is the alias of a person or group of person that created bitcoin. We really dont know what is the purpose why they created bitcoin, but as what we can see now, bitcoin gained purposes, and that is to help people to earn profit to support our needs and wants ad for our future. All of our speculations is acceptable, we just have different point of views. Glad that we see its greatness for many years, because someday i think it will end, because its possible that in the future, that many more crypto currencies might created, and maybe one of them become the bitcoin competitor, and that might defeat bitcoin. That was just my speculation, so please respect. Thanks!
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I appreciate this theory but I do not see it as a concrete evidence that will prove that Hal is real Satoshi. The only way to identify the real Satoshi is asking the proof of a signed message from the original wallet which Satoshi used in initial blocks. I don't think there is any other way to prove the identity of Satoshi. We have seen multiple candidates claiming to be the Satoshi but no one was able to prove their claims.
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When Satoshi Nakamoto was in the know there were two possibilities:
1. Bitcoin price will drop dramatically
2. Bitcoin prices will rise.

As time goes by and Bitcoin remains Anonym will probably remain this way because of the nature of Bitcoin like that, and if Satoshi Nakamoto is in the know it will be a lot of questions, which I am afraid of is Bitcoin will go down progressively deeper and it should not happen.
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I think this type of thread is the most created here! You are free to try to figure out, figure out and think about Satoshi Nakamoto, but I don't think that would be his will, and most who are in cryptocurrencies know what the greatest legacy he has left and is leaving. Wink
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I think this type of thread is the most created here! You are free to try to figure out, figure out and think about Satoshi Nakamoto, but I don't think that would be his will, and most who are in cryptocurrencies know what the greatest legacy he has left and is leaving. Wink

I still tend to think that there is a team of people hiding under Satoshi Nakamoto name. In any case, I don’t see a point in revealing Satoshi Nakamoto’s true identity. We have to respect his/her/their right for privacy.
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Really interesting theory, do you know that Hal Finney was cryopreserved by the Alcor Life Extension Foundation? (source wikipedia)
I think it's very notable that he chose not to be buried, maybe he want to rise againg from 200 years from now when the world economy will be based on Bitcoin Cheesy
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
Satoshi Nakamoto remains anonymous. As far as I know no one knows his real identity , but they say Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who share their different ideas to form or develop bitcoin. Lets thank him/her because he/they are able to develop this helpful thing , the bitcoin.

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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
Yes, thank you to bring us successful life because of your invention many lives have good future. The bitcoin and blockchain that gives high profitable income. I know you're identity is very secret but we gonna thanks you with all of my hearts.
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
really, it could be satoshi nakamoto currently in the middle of us.
I do not care whoever he is, obviously I just want to say a big thank you for creating bitcoin.
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I think there are more reasons why the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto remains unknown. Maybe he thinks that it is better for his life to be in private or just work in background. Even he is dead or alive, his legacy will stay in the world of technology and continue to give opportunity to those who want to succeed financially.
Yes, Satoshi Nakamoto his life is very private and no one know him, and his invetion a bitcoin still growing and increasing their value. Wherever he is his legacy will continues stay and alive in the world of technology of cryptocurrency that continues giving opportunity to us.

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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.


Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2008. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Wow you have a lot of time to create a theory whose Satoshi is.

Anyway this is just speculation and all of your arguments has no proof that Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. If he is, since he is already dead it is impossible to get an admission.


Satoshi Nakamoto's identity remains unknown. But whoever he is , lets thank him in developing bitcoin . We all know that bitcoin makes a huge impact on our life , because it helps us in different ways.

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My dear friend you are wrong  Craig Steven Wright is believed to be the real creator of bitcoins .Craig is an Australian computer scientist and business personality. In a conference conducted with the press media he declared himself to be the real satoshi and later he was asked to prove that he is the real then he did not do so as he himself has made a fortune out of it and he even gave demonstration on how he did it to prove that it he has done and it was shown on several media  like the BBC channel also witnessed his demonstration and i also believe him to be the real creator.No matter who created btc it is the best investment of this current scenario.

He was never able to prove that he controls the original genesis bitcoin address (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa) that was used to mine the genesis block as he was not able to sign a message from it. Stop spreading fud.

 Are we investing because of Satoshi Nakamoto? What is the relevant of this into crypto market?  I believe in the fundamentals, market structure, market behavior, level of confidence on Bitcoin, the volume on investment put in by the investors into Bitcoin, with out the personality of the one who conceptualized the idea of Bitcoin or crypto coin into the trading market.
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 

We are not getting any benefit if we will ever know who satoshi nakamoto is but his creation will make him praise and remember. Aside this is still a theory in which many of topics are not yet opened for argument. I guess instead of looking the real identity of satoshi nakamoto, We should develop his creation not just for him but for all of us, what do you think ?

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July 13, 2018, 01:37:08 PM
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It is worrying to hear someone who has make a great impact in technology like Bitcoin will remain anonymous without coming out to claim for the fame it will offer him. I don't think Satoshi Nakamoto is alive.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is the person behind of the creation of bitcoins.
Through his great ideas he started a currency which recognize by lots of people in this world and used as a alternative investing.
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Im still confused why Satoshi Nakamoto needs to hide her/his/their identity even though the things that he/ she/they do are now very popular right now. He/she/they doesn't want to claim the gratitude and fame but I think there are still a reason why that Satoshi Nakamoto is yet unknown and mystery in our mind. Even though satoshi's identity are still unknown the idea and the legacy that satosh brings abmnd contribute in our advancement of technology are unforgettable and unreplaceable.
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.





Thank for this information about satoshi nakamoto but there's a question always in my mind that the identity of satoshi now very mysterious and unsolve and  why Satoshi Nakamoto needs to hide his identy even though the things that are now very popular.
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July 14, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto identity is still forbidden. He introduce an amazing technology to people that lead us to new heights of revolution. 
Satoshi was heavily involved with the bitcoin community and collaborated with them in order to modify the underlying bitcoin protocol. The mystery behind Nakamoto's identity has only grown as the bitcoin community eagerly speculates who it could potentially be, It is unknown whether Nakamoto is male or female or whether Nakamoto is even a single person or a group of individuals.
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The theme of Satoshi Nakamoto is very interesting and brings a lot of controversy. Some Say it's one person, others say it's a group of people. One version is that Satoshi Nakamoto has already died and the bitcoin system works without his participation. Very many versions of on this topic. We can only assume. Perhaps one day we will know the true truth.




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July 14, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
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For me Bitcoin founder/Creator Satoshi Nakamoto is still unknown as of this time, and no one knows what his real name is, there are possible names coming out but I think real Satoshi Nakamoto remain on the shadow.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is the inventor of bitcoin or developer of bitcoin but the using term Satoshi Nakamoto is not his true identity, he using his fake identity. He probably living in the United States and various European countries.
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Satoshi Nakamoto brings a lot of questions and controversy in our mind. Satoshi is known as the developer and founder of bitcoin aside from that there are no personal information about him/her/them. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto leaves us a big question mark who is Satoshi Nakamoto?. Until now it still a mysterious about the name Satoshi if it is a one person or more than that. Today, as bitcoin rapidly grow the question in our mind keeps on confusing us. Satoshi Nakamoto will still a legend with all of us.
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August 04, 2018, 02:57:04 PM
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Your information provides very detailed !!!
Anyway they also bring the investment market a good chance. They have created bitcoins to make our transactions much easier and faster.
Open up a new revolution of financial markets.
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
Yes, we don't know you but your creations bitcoin and blockchain technology it brings hope for us, our life and economy it become better and successful. Satoshi Nakamoto your creations is very good technology we gonna say thank you, you are good samaritan.
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August 27, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
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I don't know how accurate your information is, but I think it makes sense. Besides, I just can't believe that Satoshi just left and has nothing to do with bitcoin now, and Hal Finney as far as I know affects bitcoin and its development now.
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August 29, 2018, 06:40:07 PM
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

Bitcoin was introduced in 2008 to the economic market to the entire world and it was assumed to be the SATOSHI NAKAMOTO, the so called inventor of bitcoin, though it was assumed only that he has invented bitcoin as no one has saw him ever and no one has met him but there were rumours that he used to talk to his followers through social networking sites but there is no such solid proof but once I got some chance, I would like to meet him once in my life.
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August 29, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
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we all need data and facts, not just issues. But just let Nakamoto's identity become a mystery, the most important thing is his work that has changed the world and helped the financial lives of many people. I personally appreciate what he has done for the rest of my life.
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There is a lot of speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual and there are some who think that they are a community, and of course no one knows Satoshi Nakamoto, and it is dangerous if Satoshi's identity is found and of course many criminals will target that is why the identity is kept secret from all public.
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There is a lot of speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual and there are some who think that they are a community, and of course no one knows Satoshi Nakamoto, and it is dangerous if Satoshi's identity is found and of course many criminals will target that is why the identity is kept secret from all public.

Even this is one among that you need to go with the article many things has been explained about the Satoshi in old articles this may be the new proposal.
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October 31, 2016
Bitcoin Origins by Phil Wilson aka Scronty
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5aflch/bitcoin_origins/
http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html

August 30, 2018
Is “Satoshi Nakamoto” Craig Wright, Dave Kleiman and Phil Wilson? Bitcoin Creators Revealed!
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/satoshi-nakamoto-craig-wright-dave-kleiman-phil-wilson-bitcoin-creators-revealed/

September 2, 2018
Craig Wright Refutes Phil Wilson’s Bitcoin Origins Satoshi Story: Shares ‘Easter Eggs’ Exposure Plans
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/craig-wright-refutes-phil-wilsons-bitcoin-origins-satoshi-story/

A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson by Steve Patterson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20
[2:59] "I think that Phil Wilson is the real Satoshi Nakamoto"
Some interview timestamps: https://gist.github.com/cryptobabel/b74b459a41573acac3770d02ba098517
 
September 4, 2018
Scronty (Phil Wilson) is not Satoshi
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
    And Steve Patterson's response therein:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/e5eyjs9/




Phil's twitter account:
https://twitter.com/_Phil_Wilson_



Note Shelby aka @anonymint thinks Phil Wilson is a fraud and this is nonsense.
Shelby thinks Satoshi is the Zionists global elite:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.msg45538963#msg45538963




"Satoshi" wrote a book, here is a summary (the only one thus far):  
https://medium.com/@venture_crypto/the-genesis-block-6c9ebde73ff9

Team Satoshi Twitter: https://twitter.com/TeamSatoshi
https://twitter.com/TeamSatoshi/status/1013566343206010880





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September 11, 2018, 04:31:26 AM
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No matter who is satoshi nakamoto the good thing is that he create cryptocurreny and people are very happy by this creation because most of the people can fullfil their dreams but still today the question is that who is satoshi whether he is a person or a name of group. Sometime a question is strike in my mind that why he or she will hide his/her identity.
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I do not care much about someone being Satoshi Nakamoto. I am interested in people who are developing Bitcoin! Satoshi Nakamoto if you do not want to reveal, it's privacy! I support that
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The identity of Mr.Nakamoto Satoshi has long been a controversial and debatable issue since the inception of the bitcoin innovation over 9years ago!. The identity of Mr. Nakamoto is a thing that daily is mysterious and this is one of the pointers that show that crypto can and is decentralised with having to reveal the personality of a contributor.
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No one knows who he is and it doesn't matter but his name will be remembered always to introduce blockchain technology to us. He might be a private person and that's why he doesn't want to reveal himself and created Bitcoin Smiley
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Some says satoshi nakamoto is just a theory to begin with the bitcoin. Some are also making a way that they claim to be satoshi nakamoto. But i think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto is hidden for a purpose, maybe for his security of being one of the riches around the world. But for me, whoever he is, we should thank him for making bitcoin possible, and still bitcoin continues until now.
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Some says satoshi nakamoto is just a theory to begin with the bitcoin. Some are also making a way that they claim to be satoshi nakamoto. But i think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto is hidden for a purpose, maybe for his security of being one of the riches around the world. But for me, whoever he is, we should thank him for making bitcoin possible, and still bitcoin continues until now.

I agree. This is something that most people tend to not focus on. Why in the heck should Satoshi Nakamoto disclose his identity when the prime logic around which this market is built around is anonymity itself?

Whoever he or she is, I don't really care and I like the fact that they are helping the world in such a big way without even disclosing their true identities. This is the quality of a hero in my opinion.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a true inspiration for all of us. Don't judge him/her people. Be thankful for he/she has done for this world.

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Do not you think that Satoshi Nakamoto is the greatest scam of all the times? No, I do not mean bad things. Simply a group of people could take the nickname Nakamoto.
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No body know who is Satoshi Nakamoto, but we all knows Satoshi Nakamoto the one person create bitcoin.
but exactly we all don't know whom is HE/SHE because the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is very hidden.
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I think that no one will be able to find Satoshi. If honestly then I think that Satoshi has already died and no one will ever have access to his Bitcoins. I do not need to worry about this.
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If this is true and whoever he is I'm so grateful to him for creating Bitcoin I'm not the only one thanking him millions are for creating this technology, I just hope he will not dump all his shares, so the price will not go down maybe one day he'll create another technology breakthrough again because  a software developer always comes out with a new one.

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If this is true and whoever he is I'm so grateful to him for creating Bitcoin I'm not the only one thanking him millions are for creating this technology, I just hope he will not dump all his shares, so the price will not go down maybe one day he'll create another technology breakthrough again because  a software developer always comes out with a new one.
I agree with you, even if today Satoshi is present in this forum, then he will be a source of solutions for every crypto market problem.

he will create a topic, and then his topic will be full of comments, and get a solution for every bitcoin market development, trading, investing, and even creating a high bitcoin market volume.
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There is nobody who is most likely the inventor. There are countless of people who could be, but it’s all debunked so that we can’t say. Also, many believe it’s not just one person. This is how I see it anyway.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a symbol. Everyone with piece of Bitcoin is Satoshi in a sense. The original inventor would be irrelevant if we are talking about truly decentralized currency.
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First of all i would like to commend you for a very nice research regarding satoshi's real identity.
But nevertheless this will still remain as a perception of an individual, i also do have a guess who could satoshi really be but ill just keep it to myself who he/they really is/are.
But one of the basis i have is the amount he/they have.

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He might be a whole bunch of people, or even a she - Truth is, as fun as the Scooby Doo like mystery that surrounds the 'founder' of Bitcoin is no one really knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is and it may not even be one person. Or a male. One thing is for sure; Satoshi Nakamoto does not want the world to find out who they are, for reasons known only to themselves. Still, it is intriguing to try and guess.
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It could be Hal, but I think Mike Hearn is more likely to be Satoshi based on what I researched below.

Is Satoshi Nakamoto Mike Hearn?
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There are many coincidences involving a Mike Hearn and Satoshi Nakamoto connection.   Though many of you will automatically reject the notion because you dislike Mike Hearn, I would suggest you at least entertain the idea’s possibility. I have seen Mike Hearn on the long list of “Satoshi candidates” posted on bitcointalk but I have never seen anyone explore the idea.

Besides Mike being British and Satoshi using British English my first inclination to even consider Mike Hearn as being Satoshi Nakamoto was that Mike’s bitcointalk.org profile was created 1 day after Satoshi last logged in to the forum.

Satoshi’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3
Mike’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700

Mike’s bitcointalk presence began 1 day 53 minutes and 13 seconds after Satoshi’s bitcointalk presence ended. Almost exactly 1 day separating their profiles seemed odd to me especially considering the impact Mike had in development later on.
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Why would Satoshi Nakamoto hide his real identity?

The people who created the precursors to Bitcoin were not anonymous. Satoshi even referenced multiple influences by name in his whitepaper like Wei Dai, Ralph Merkle, and Adam Back. So why did the person behind Satoshi feel the need to remain anonymous? There doesn’t seem to be any precedent in the small niche of people who attempted to make digital/electronic cash. A lot of people are constantly regurgitating the idea that Satoshi knew how big Bitcoin would become and that Governments or nefarious people would want to hunt him down for his bitcoin holdings or for simply inventing bitcoin.
In reality, Satoshi didn’t even know if his invention would gain traction. Satoshi didn’t know he would be one of a handful of users running bitcoin in the first year which would allow him to mine as many blocks as he did. Satoshi didn’t know how much bitcoin would actually be worth.

So I think the better question is why would Mike Hearn hide is identity?

Mike Hearn in mid August 2006 was hired on by Google as a Site Reliability Engineer (http://web.archive.org/web/20090514053312/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/2006/08/)

Why would an employee of Google secretly develop something? Well, Google themselves sum it up pretty nicely here: “As part of your employment agreement, Google most likely owns intellectual property (IP) you create while at the company. Because Google’s business interests are so wide and varied, this likely applies to any personal project you have. That includes new development on personal projects you created prior to employment at Google.“ (https://opensource.google.com/docs/iarc/ )

Here Mike was indeed fully aware of Google’s policy when he released bitcoinj as a Google copyrighted project under the Apache 2 license: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61438#msg61438
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61658#msg61658

Then here he is emailing Satoshi (himself Wink) a few hours after the bitcointalk announcement:
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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
Date: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:13 PM
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
 
 
Hi Satoshi,
 
I hope you are doing well. I finally got all the lawyers happy enough
to release BitCoinJ under the Google name using the Apache 2 license:
….
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT

I have no idea how long it takes Google to vet an employee project and license it, but combine that with building bitcoinj and doing that all under 3 months seems fast. What do I know, maybe bitcoinj was a pretty simple project.

I wonder what Google would have done with Bitcoin had Satoshi been an employee of Google?

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Mike claiming he supposedly “coined the term SPV”.  Or, did he?
Here is Peter Todd https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/649413412158599168 and here is the reddit thread to go along with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n1ydp/peter_todd_on_twitter_mike_hearn_claiming_he/

The term “SPV” does not appear in the whitepaper but its meaning does. Simplified Payment Verification is section 8 of the whitepaper.  Did Mike slip and just inadvertently hint to him being the real Satoshi? Upon further investigation Mike had claimed months earlier that he coined the term “SPV wallet”.  https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-capacity-cliff-586d1bf7715e So he could have meant to say SPV wallet when Peter Todd was calling him out or maybe he did mean to say just “SPV”. Still not the smoking gun but interesting that he would throw that around knowing full well that Simplified Payment Verification was in the Whitepaper.

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[After writing this up, Mike just released all his private Satoshi Emails through a user named CipherionX. Mike did show up in a reddit thread to confirm that they came from him and are indeed not fake. Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080206.0
Reddit link to Mike’s post: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/ ]
It is very plausible that in order to remain separate from something, that someone would in fact have email conversations between himself and an alias as “proof” that they are completely different independent people. Of course this would only make sense if the emails were made public at some point. Well guess what?  Mike just made them public and Mike also attempted to divulge them to Charles Hoskinson in 2013 who did not release them to the public.

If the dates can be trusted, Mike’s email leak serves as proof that he was there early on even if he was corresponding with himself Wink Besides the new email dump the only known public involvement that I could find was here on the sourceforge forum in October 2009: https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/thread/f4cd80640910240804m64ba45f1g216905fc9db16a2%40mail.gmail.com/#msg23827020

Why did Mike not use Sourceforge as he posted openly so frequently in other project lists or forums? Are there posts that I haven’t seen from early on?


Mike did produce an email he sent to Satoshi In April of 2009 here in this thread: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/54-my-first-message-to-satoshi/ which does correspond with the new email dump.  An interesting thing I noticed in the above link is that Mike stated,
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Fun. Here's mine, 12th April 2009. Back then the only documentation was the white paper and hardly anyone had explored the code, so a lot of my questions were very newbie-ish. Also I capitalized Bitcoin wrong.
But Mike continued to capitalize Bitcoin as BitCoin not just in that email but until May 14, 2011. Why is that interesting? Well, every thread and post he responded to that mentioned the word bitcoin didn’t capitalize the “C” ever. It would seem like he was almost doing it on purpose to show what a noob he was to the project. Oh then he of course points out the fact that he was a newbie for capitalizing bitcoin that way. It is odd that he continued to use that spelling without regard to how everyone else was spelling it and then later direct people’s attention to the fact that he use to spell it that way early on.
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Also, what is odd about Mike’s involvement early on is that it doesn’t really parallel with his natural online demeanor. He is very vocal and has an involved online presence yet he just really isn’t vocal during the early stages of Bitcoin. Even his personal blog posts came to a halt in early 2009. https://web.archive.org/web/20111130084418/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/ For someone who is  generally very active online before Bitcoin and then after Satoshi’s disappearence, I find it peculiar that there is a dead silence period from Mike Hearn while Satoshi existed online.
Mike went Facebook silent from July 23, 2007 to March 8, 2011 which also coincides with Satoshi’s existence and pre-release development of Bitcoin. https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.real.mike?lst=662933243%3A61203304%3A1502324015

The next step in my exploration of this idea was to create a calendar of time periods where Satoshi was silent on the forums. For example, Satoshi was silent on the forum from March 24, 2010 until May 16, 2010. I am guessing this is a period when Satoshi was away from his home travelling or vacationing. I was wanting to then correspond them with known dates when Mike was on vacations or at a conference, but as I stated above MIke wasn’t very public during Satoshi’s presence. If anyone knows of any of the potential Satoshis that were vacationing, hospitalized (Hal?), or travelling during that March to May gap in 2010, it would be a good link to the real Satoshi.

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Hal Finney was also involved at the start only to leave and eventually return. He came back a month before Satoshi departed though.  Hal was the recipient of bitcoins first transaction and helped Satoshi troubleshoot early problems [Suspicious link removed]j.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf

Their correspondence lead me to believe that Satoshi may have had either a rapport or at the least some familiarity with Hal. I decided to search Mike Hearn and Hal Finney together which turned up a nice find. Here, https://sourceforge.net/p/tboot/mailman/tboot-devel/?style=threaded&viewmonth=200807 Mike and Hal are talking about Trusted Computing back in July 2008, just months before the bitcoin whitepaper surfaced. Unfortunately I don’t quite fully understand Trusted Computing and the reason Mike Hearn was inquiring about a trusted web browser or how it would relate to Bitcoin,
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- I'd like to launch Firefox in a protected domain and have it usable for
surfing the web. My vague, poorly thought out plan was to let the user pick
a photo from a library as proof of the trusted path, then show it in a tab
at startup. Once you saw the personal photo, you'd know you were interacting
with a copy of the browser that'd be safe to use even on a malware-riddled
machine.
However, I did also find this thread from Mike Hearn that Hal Finney later resurrected about TC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67508.0 And even more interesting, Hal Finney later wrote in his brief memoir of bitcoin, “Bitcoin and Me”, posted on the bitcointalk forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)  that he was currently “working on something Mike Hearn suggested, using the security features of modern processors, designed to support "Trusted Computing", to harden Bitcoin wallets.” Was Mike Hearn originally researching a use for trusted computing in Bitcoin but never implemented it only to later pass it on to Hal FInney as a “suggestion”?  Mike on Google+ posted a link to Hal’s TC project when he learned Hal passed away and linked to Hal’s post on BTCtalk (https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154290.0 )

So,

here is Satoshi stating he started working on bitcoin in 2007 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195.msg1617#msg1617,
here Satoshi said he was done writing Bitcoin by July 2008 because that is when Google protocol buffers was made public”I looked at Google protocol buffers when they were released last year, but I had already written everything by then.” https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
and then above Mike Hearn in July 2008 is seeking guidance from Hal about trusted computing and then Hal working on trusted computing application on the suggestion of Mike for bitcoin. Ok why? Well bitcoin was done by July 2007 when Mike was inquiring about TC and Hal was working on a TC application later, meaning that TC has some application not related to the core of bitcoin but rather to a peripheral of bitcoin.
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[Weak] Searching for more clues about Satoshi I came across a colloquial/slang term that he used. “Hack on” was used by Satoshi in the context of “work on”. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1034.msg13206#msg13206
I found multiple instances where Mike Hearn used the same exact term in the same context: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-April/007779.html
http://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/hczWIAby/bitcoin-development-cartographer
https://web.archive.org/web/20170628004052/http://www.advogato.org/person/mikehearn/
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-March/msg00031.html
I do admit the “hack on” argument is lame evidence as it is somewhat common term. However, not everyone used it in that context (like Hal Finney didn’t) and it does add to the list of coincidences.
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[Warning: Reaching] Another super weak semi-coincidence is Mike Hearns birthday. Mike’s birthday is April 17th, 1984. Satoshi’s birthday was chosen as April 5th, 1975. I don’t know about you, but a lot of times when I have to enter a birthday in a service where I don’t want them knowing the truth, I usually always use my real birth month with fake day and year. [More reaching] adding 1975’s digits equal adding 1984’s digits/ 7+5=12 and 8+4=12.

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According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi “communicated with a few of the core developers before leaving. He told myself and Gavin that he had moved on to other things and that the project was in good hands.“ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145850.msg1558053#msg1558053 This is also backed up by the new email release here:
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET   
Mike- “I had a few other things on my mind (as always). One is, are you planning on rejoining the community at some point (eg for code reviews), or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight?”
Satoshi- “I've moved on to other things.  It's in good hands with Gavin and everyone.”
The above communication is supposedly the first time anyone heard that Satoshi was leaving for good and it was none other than Mike Hearn as the recipient. Then a few days later Satoshi told Gavin the same thing.

None of these things points or alludes to Mike being Satoshi by themselves. But I do think that all these things together do paint a possible connection. Mike denied being Satoshi when I emailed him and also didn’t seem to care that I would post these things online attempting to connect him to Satoshi.

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It could be Hal, but I think Mike Hearn is more likely to be Satoshi based on what I researched below.

Is Satoshi Nakamoto Mike Hearn?
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There are many coincidences involving a Mike Hearn and Satoshi Nakamoto connection.   Though many of you will automatically reject the notion because you dislike Mike Hearn, I would suggest you at least entertain the idea’s possibility. I have seen Mike Hearn on the long list of “Satoshi candidates” posted on bitcointalk but I have never seen anyone explore the idea.

Besides Mike being British and Satoshi using British English my first inclination to even consider Mike Hearn as being Satoshi Nakamoto was that Mike’s bitcointalk.org profile was created 1 day after Satoshi last logged in to the forum.

Satoshi’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3
Mike’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700

Mike’s bitcointalk presence began 1 day 53 minutes and 13 seconds after Satoshi’s bitcointalk presence ended. Almost exactly 1 day separating their profiles seemed odd to me especially considering the impact Mike had in development later on.
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Why would Satoshi Nakamoto hide his real identity?

The people who created the precursors to Bitcoin were not anonymous. Satoshi even referenced multiple influences by name in his whitepaper like Wei Dai, Ralph Merkle, and Adam Back. So why did the person behind Satoshi feel the need to remain anonymous? There doesn’t seem to be any precedent in the small niche of people who attempted to make digital/electronic cash. A lot of people are constantly regurgitating the idea that Satoshi knew how big Bitcoin would become and that Governments or nefarious people would want to hunt him down for his bitcoin holdings or for simply inventing bitcoin.
In reality, Satoshi didn’t even know if his invention would gain traction. Satoshi didn’t know he would be one of a handful of users running bitcoin in the first year which would allow him to mine as many blocks as he did. Satoshi didn’t know how much bitcoin would actually be worth.

So I think the better question is why would Mike Hearn hide is identity?

Mike Hearn in mid August 2006 was hired on by Google as a Site Reliability Engineer (http://web.archive.org/web/20090514053312/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/2006/08/)

Why would an employee of Google secretly develop something? Well, Google themselves sum it up pretty nicely here: “As part of your employment agreement, Google most likely owns intellectual property (IP) you create while at the company. Because Google’s business interests are so wide and varied, this likely applies to any personal project you have. That includes new development on personal projects you created prior to employment at Google.“ (https://opensource.google.com/docs/iarc/ )

Here Mike was indeed fully aware of Google’s policy when he released bitcoinj as a Google copyrighted project under the Apache 2 license: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61438#msg61438
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61658#msg61658

Then here he is emailing Satoshi (himself Wink) a few hours after the bitcointalk announcement:
Quote
From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
Date: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:13 PM
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
 
 
Hi Satoshi,
 
I hope you are doing well. I finally got all the lawyers happy enough
to release BitCoinJ under the Google name using the Apache 2 license:
….
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT

I have no idea how long it takes Google to vet an employee project and license it, but combine that with building bitcoinj and doing that all under 3 months seems fast. What do I know, maybe bitcoinj was a pretty simple project.

I wonder what Google would have done with Bitcoin had Satoshi been an employee of Google?

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Mike claiming he supposedly “coined the term SPV”.  Or, did he?
Here is Peter Todd https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/649413412158599168 and here is the reddit thread to go along with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n1ydp/peter_todd_on_twitter_mike_hearn_claiming_he/

The term “SPV” does not appear in the whitepaper but its meaning does. Simplified Payment Verification is section 8 of the whitepaper.  Did Mike slip and just inadvertently hint to him being the real Satoshi? Upon further investigation Mike had claimed months earlier that he coined the term “SPV wallet”.  https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-capacity-cliff-586d1bf7715e So he could have meant to say SPV wallet when Peter Todd was calling him out or maybe he did mean to say just “SPV”. Still not the smoking gun but interesting that he would throw that around knowing full well that Simplified Payment Verification was in the Whitepaper.

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[After writing this up, Mike just released all his private Satoshi Emails through a user named CipherionX. Mike did show up in a reddit thread to confirm that they came from him and are indeed not fake. Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080206.0
Reddit link to Mike’s post: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/ ]
It is very plausible that in order to remain separate from something, that someone would in fact have email conversations between himself and an alias as “proof” that they are completely different independent people. Of course this would only make sense if the emails were made public at some point. Well guess what?  Mike just made them public and Mike also attempted to divulge them to Charles Hoskinson in 2013 who did not release them to the public.

If the dates can be trusted, Mike’s email leak serves as proof that he was there early on even if he was corresponding with himself Wink Besides the new email dump the only known public involvement that I could find was here on the sourceforge forum in October 2009: https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/thread/f4cd80640910240804m64ba45f1g216905fc9db16a2%40mail.gmail.com/#msg23827020 .  

Why did Mike not use Sourceforge as he posted openly so frequently in other project lists or forums? Are there posts that I haven’t seen from early on?


Mike did produce an email he sent to Satoshi In April of 2009 here in this thread: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/54-my-first-message-to-satoshi/ which does correspond with the new email dump.  An interesting thing I noticed in the above link is that Mike stated,
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Fun. Here's mine, 12th April 2009. Back then the only documentation was the white paper and hardly anyone had explored the code, so a lot of my questions were very newbie-ish. Also I capitalized Bitcoin wrong.
But Mike continued to capitalize Bitcoin as BitCoin not just in that email but until May 14, 2011. Why is that interesting? Well, every thread and post he responded to that mentioned the word bitcoin didn’t capitalize the “C” ever. It would seem like he was almost doing it on purpose to show what a noob he was to the project. Oh then he of course points out the fact that he was a newbie for capitalizing bitcoin that way. It is odd that he continued to use that spelling without regard to how everyone else was spelling it and then later direct people’s attention to the fact that he use to spell it that way early on.
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Also, what is odd about Mike’s involvement early on is that it doesn’t really parallel with his natural online demeanor. He is very vocal and has an involved online presence yet he just really isn’t vocal during the early stages of Bitcoin. Even his personal blog posts came to a halt in early 2009. https://web.archive.org/web/20111130084418/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/ For someone who is  generally very active online before Bitcoin and then after Satoshi’s disappearence, I find it peculiar that there is a dead silence period from Mike Hearn while Satoshi existed online.
Mike went Facebook silent from July 23, 2007 to March 8, 2011 which also coincides with Satoshi’s existence and pre-release development of Bitcoin. https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.real.mike?lst=662933243%3A61203304%3A1502324015

The next step in my exploration of this idea was to create a calendar of time periods where Satoshi was silent on the forums. For example, Satoshi was silent on the forum from March 24, 2010 until May 16, 2010. I am guessing this is a period when Satoshi was away from his home travelling or vacationing. I was wanting to then correspond them with known dates when Mike was on vacations or at a conference, but as I stated above MIke wasn’t very public during Satoshi’s presence. If anyone knows of any of the potential Satoshis that were vacationing, hospitalized (Hal?), or travelling during that March to May gap in 2010, it would be a good link to the real Satoshi.

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Hal Finney was also involved at the start only to leave and eventually return. He came back a month before Satoshi departed though.  Hal was the recipient of bitcoins first transaction and helped Satoshi troubleshoot early problems [Suspicious link removed]j.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf

Their correspondence lead me to believe that Satoshi may have had either a rapport or at the least some familiarity with Hal. I decided to search Mike Hearn and Hal Finney together which turned up a nice find. Here, https://sourceforge.net/p/tboot/mailman/tboot-devel/?style=threaded&viewmonth=200807 Mike and Hal are talking about Trusted Computing back in July 2008, just months before the bitcoin whitepaper surfaced. Unfortunately I don’t quite fully understand Trusted Computing and the reason Mike Hearn was inquiring about a trusted web browser or how it would relate to Bitcoin,
Quote
- I'd like to launch Firefox in a protected domain and have it usable for
surfing the web. My vague, poorly thought out plan was to let the user pick
a photo from a library as proof of the trusted path, then show it in a tab
at startup. Once you saw the personal photo, you'd know you were interacting
with a copy of the browser that'd be safe to use even on a malware-riddled
machine.
However, I did also find this thread from Mike Hearn that Hal Finney later resurrected about TC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67508.0 And even more interesting, Hal Finney later wrote in his brief memoir of bitcoin, “Bitcoin and Me”, posted on the bitcointalk forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)  that he was currently “working on something Mike Hearn suggested, using the security features of modern processors, designed to support "Trusted Computing", to harden Bitcoin wallets.” Was Mike Hearn originally researching a use for trusted computing in Bitcoin but never implemented it only to later pass it on to Hal FInney as a “suggestion”?  Mike on Google+ posted a link to Hal’s TC project when he learned Hal passed away and linked to Hal’s post on BTCtalk (https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154290.0 )

So,

here is Satoshi stating he started working on bitcoin in 2007 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195.msg1617#msg1617,
here Satoshi said he was done writing Bitcoin by July 2008 because that is when Google protocol buffers was made public”I looked at Google protocol buffers when they were released last year, but I had already written everything by then.” https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
and then above Mike Hearn in July 2008 is seeking guidance from Hal about trusted computing and then Hal working on trusted computing application on the suggestion of Mike for bitcoin. Ok why? Well bitcoin was done by July 2007 when Mike was inquiring about TC and Hal was working on a TC application later, meaning that TC has some application not related to the core of bitcoin but rather to a peripheral of bitcoin.
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[Weak] Searching for more clues about Satoshi I came across a colloquial/slang term that he used. “Hack on” was used by Satoshi in the context of “work on”. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1034.msg13206#msg13206
I found multiple instances where Mike Hearn used the same exact term in the same context: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-April/007779.html
http://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/hczWIAby/bitcoin-development-cartographer
https://web.archive.org/web/20170628004052/http://www.advogato.org/person/mikehearn/
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-March/msg00031.html
I do admit the “hack on” argument is lame evidence as it is somewhat common term. However, not everyone used it in that context (like Hal Finney didn’t) and it does add to the list of coincidences.
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[Warning: Reaching] Another super weak semi-coincidence is Mike Hearns birthday. Mike’s birthday is April 17th, 1984. Satoshi’s birthday was chosen as April 5th, 1975. I don’t know about you, but a lot of times when I have to enter a birthday in a service where I don’t want them knowing the truth, I usually always use my real birth month with fake day and year. [More reaching] adding 1975’s digits equal adding 1984’s digits/ 7+5=12 and 8+4=12.

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According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi “communicated with a few of the core developers before leaving. He told myself and Gavin that he had moved on to other things and that the project was in good hands.“ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145850.msg1558053#msg1558053 This is also backed up by the new email release here:
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET  
Mike- “I had a few other things on my mind (as always). One is, are you planning on rejoining the community at some point (eg for code reviews), or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight?”
Satoshi- “I've moved on to other things.  It's in good hands with Gavin and everyone.”
The above communication is supposedly the first time anyone heard that Satoshi was leaving for good and it was none other than Mike Hearn as the recipient. Then a few days later Satoshi told Gavin the same thing.

None of these things points or alludes to Mike being Satoshi by themselves. But I do think that all these things together do paint a possible connection. Mike denied being Satoshi when I emailed him and also didn’t seem to care that I would post these things online attempting to connect him to Satoshi.

If you search his name lot of article you can read about his information and many more. But the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is still questionable because many people say that he is man, some other people she is woman while the others they are group. So I think nobody knows who is really he/she or them is because not all the information you read in an internet is correct. Although many article that Satoshi Nakamoto has identity now that he connected to Mike Hearn but still we don't know if its true.
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September 25, 2018, 09:40:15 PM
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.

Its still a speculation but I after I read this, I almost believed the sotry behind satishi nakamoto. I guess the only lack of this story when you say you're the neighborhood of this bith man who suspected created bitcoin technology.
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September 25, 2018, 09:43:11 PM
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


Interesting thoughts, but I think that doesn't make much sense. That will give us the knowledge of the name of the Creator? Of course, this is interesting from the point of view of studying personality. Such people as Steve Jobs are always interested in their history of formation, but the practical benefits for bitcoin owners, as well as the entire blockchain technology in General, are useless information. The network has a lot of investigations and guesses about who created bitcoin, but I think that the truth we will not know. Where is the proof?
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September 25, 2018, 10:31:09 PM
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin

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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin

Right, we should stop searching for the real satoshi because its a forgone conclusion that the he/she/group of individuals doesn't want to be discovered. I'm sure that Satoshi is not hiding, perhaps his looking at this forum very often and just have a good chuckle on the innovation that he brought us.

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September 26, 2018, 07:38:26 AM
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I think this Satoshi Nakamoto will be very difficult to be able to find and it is uncertain that its existence is not just one person. I am sure Satoshi Nakamoto is an abbreviation of a group of names consisting of various kinds of people who are in it. who's behind the original inventor of bitcoin is still very mysterious.

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The identity of Mr.Namamoto Satoshi has long been a controversial issue since the founding of bitcoin innovation over 9 years ago. No one knows who he is and it does not matter but his name will always be remembered for introducing blockchain technology to us. Some say nakamoto satoshi is just a theory to start with bitcoin. But I think until now, the identity of satoshi nakamoto has been hidden for a purpose, perhaps because of his safety as one of the richest people in the world. Do not you think Satoshi Nakamoto is the biggest scam all of the times? Simply a group of people can nicknamed Nakamoto.
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Today is the 10th anniversary of Bitcoin Whitepaper. 10 years ago Satoshi Nakamoto published Bitcoin whitepaper:

https://coincodex.com/article/2563/today-is-the-10th-anniversary-of-the-bitcoin-whitepaper/

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No one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto. It can a he, she or even they. As what people knows, he might be a Japanese person.  Many have been named that they are Satoshi however a lot of them denied. Satoshi believe and stated that it is not about his identity that is important, it is about the Bitcoin that he created. Up till now, no one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
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Satoshi's identity remains very elusive and I don't think that this person has any plans of revealing himself/herself in the public. The decision is all up to him/her when he/she's going to introduce himself/herself. However, despite this puzzling controversies, I think what's important is that he/she invented Bitcoin that's very beneficial and profitable. It brings a quality of life and helps a lot of people from all walks of life. I think instead of keep on asking  who this person is we must be very thankful to him for the opportunities Bitcoin has offered by being a responsible bitcoiner and be a good exemplary to others.
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I wish and pray he stays anonymous as he is its good for the overall development of the ecosystem and people tends to get motivated with their version of satoshi vision which mobiles them to step up and deliver which is very imporatant for this nascent industry.
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The fact is that nobody knows about Satoshi Nakamoto correctly , because if  you look at its history, you will know that Satoshi Nakamoto, may be a person, or it may be that he is a group of some people . But, of course, that he must have been a great person who thought of such a large platform and came to implement it.
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There is nobody who is most likely the inventor. There are countless of people who could be, but it’s all debunked so that we can’t say. Also, many believe it’s not just one person. This is how I see it anyway.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a symbol. Everyone with piece of Bitcoin is Satoshi in a sense. The original inventor would be irrelevant if we are talking about truly decentralized currency.
in my opinion Satoshi Nakamoto is the person who discovered bitcoin for the first time. he discovered bitcoin in 2009. if you read Digoogle articles maybe a lot.
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Definitely not Craig Wright Smiley

https://coincodex.com/article/2780/who-is-craig-wright-the-man-who-claims-to-be-satoshi-nakamoto/
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Hello to everyone
It is good to see you all on here.  This is a new screen name so i dont expect too much from peoples replied to me at this moment but the factor is in here i just want simple answers and ideas if you can make its would be good.
I have read many articles over the years about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto founder of Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology and it is quite fun to see all the different theories and some have the very good explanations but not correct.  My questions is very simple and will invite much debate and participate.  What does every person thinks will happen to Satoshi Nakamoto inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology if they knows who he is? Do people think the NSA are interested in him and other agencies?  My second questions to you is what do you think will happen to Bitcoin?  Why does everyone speak that BTC will crash.  This is nonesense and i do not understand why people thinks this will be the outcome.  The factor is that thousand of new corporate investor suddenly put their money into Bitcoin, what do you think will happen to the price? Bitcoin will never go down and will eventually going to the moon but this is not my questions.  I want to know what everyone thinks will happen if Satoshi Nakamoto who invented the Bitcoin and blockchain technology suddenly is revealed in press conference or other kinds of meeting? If he wants to release his new system and if it is linked to the current system (which was just an experiment small branch of the main Master Ledger) it will be difficult to stay anonymous for the second time but my questions to you is what will happen to Satoshi Nakamoto Inventor of the bitcoin and blockchain technology and why do people want to find him so much? I mean what will they do if they do find him? Thank you to respond this questions is important for me at the moment for research.
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June 10, 2019, 04:40:07 PM
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin

That's right, no matter who Satoshi Nakamoto is we should thankful that he was able to come up with a currency and a technology that helped a lot of people like us. Being said that, I think it is only rightful to let Satoshi enjoy his private life away from controversies so being thankful is enough and as respect for him let's not dig down who he really is.

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June 11, 2019, 03:54:51 AM
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No matter who it is, he brings us bitcoin and blockchain technology. For humans, it is a very good technology. Thank you!! Grin
that's true, what I believe satoshi is not someone's name but the name of the group of scientists. this is a big question and they keep hiding. I hope that someday I will present a comment so that this polemic will end. at least we will get to know new heroes in the modern era. Grin

We going to simply keep guessing and speculating since it is something we probably will never get the answer to. Like the meaning of life or what happens when we die. We just won't know.
Even if someone "finds" Satoshi then how will they prove it? Satoshi is probably a project name. I don't know why people talk about Satoshi as if it was the person's name.

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June 11, 2019, 04:33:04 AM
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My dear friend you are wrong  Craig Steven Wright is believed to be the real creator of bitcoins .Craig is an Australian computer scientist and business personality. In a conference conducted with the press media he declared himself to be the real satoshi and later he was asked to prove that he is the real then he did not do so as he himself has made a fortune out of it and he even gave demonstration on how he did it to prove that it he has done and it was shown on several media  like the BBC channel also witnessed his demonstration and i also believe him to be the real creator.No matter who created btc it is the best investment of this current scenario.

He was never able to prove that he controls the original genesis bitcoin address (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa) that was used to mine the genesis block as he was not able to sign a message from it. Stop spreading fud.

Unless someone comes here and signed those addresses and login in here and post all these people coming are imposter, we should stop relying on theory when we can verify this in an easy and right way, they cannot do an alibi that they lose passwords on this forum, or lost their private key, it's unacceptable.

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Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.
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We are all Satoshi.  But specifically? Look to the world's best and brightest. Thank you best and brightest. I'm a fan. Smiley

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Up to the present We have it now, none of us in bitcoin and crypto world doesn't know what's the real identity of Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto it is still unknown, and besides if I 'm going to ask, its not important to me who He is, but for what matters most is that the founder of Bitcoin helped a lot of people who involved themselves in bitcon industry.

His identity is not important, but his invention is. If he had any interest in revealing his identity, then he could have done that a long time back. But he has chose to remain anonymous, and we need to respect that decision. There is a chance that in future he may change this decision, but I am not really concerned about it. It will have very little impact on the acceptability and prices.

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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.



another shit crap post ... like the most ...

1. its not the first time people do all kind of projects under one name in the internet and not the last....for sure

2. its not one person ...and never will be...uneducated people love throw bullshit and they invest also in crap shit coins

3. bitcoin idea came from the idea of peer to peer sharing file like napster and muse and bittornet ...its came just with twist

4. before bitcoin came to the world people that associated with very smart underground people which expose and leak information about whats happen in this place and put their ass in huge risk....this people already was talked about peer to peer as gold tech which can revolutionise almost any vertical ...


5. so sad to see people here post ton of shit crap bullshit non sense and where its end they fall in huge scams....irony


someone say bitcoin is experiment of banks this guy totally super dumb and also probably invest huge of money in xrp and wait to hit 50 usd hhhh i almost sure from his dumbess

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what strange before bitcoin come there was people was talking about that peer to peer file sharing can make financial freedom,,,Edward Snowden one of them....


so sad to see tons posts of crap shit without any deep research and checking and much more...its not hard
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sorry to say and i dont love to hurt but totally crap bullshit post which waist time without any deep research and nothing as always people fall the scams coins....


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Napster (Napster was Fanning's nickname in high school, because of his hair) is a different way to distribute MP3 files. Instead of storing the songs on a central computer, the songs live on users' machines. This is called peer-to-peer sharing, or P2P
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February 04, 2020, 11:21:42 PM
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. Here are my findings and explanations on to as why.

Many people speculate that either an individual no one has ever heard of or Nick Szabo created Bitcoin. One of the main priorities of Satoshi Nakamoto was to remain as anonymous as possible and he was absolutely on point with his OPSEC. If Nick Szabo created Bitcoin, he would know he’d be the first person suspected of creating Bitcoin due to his Bitgold research. Satoshi would never put himself into this position. I do think Nick Szabo is the biggest influencer of Bitcoin and without his Bitgold research, Bitcoin may have never existed. However, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and had absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin at any point. Now that were past why Nick Szabo is not Satoshi, let’s get onto who is.

The man that is Satoshi Nakamoto is none other than Hal Finney. The man who was the first person to work on Bitcoin besides Satoshi and received the first ever Bitcoin transaction. While this will always be speculation, there is honestly no doubt in my mind, and it will probably leave not much doubt in your mind either.

Let’s start with the obvious.

Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcointalk Forum in December of 2009. Hal had been helping Satoshi with Bitcoin since January of 2009 (as emails indicate). Hal Finney registered on the Bitcointalk forum in November 2010. A full year after the creation of the forum. Why would Bitcoins biggest supporter, Hal Finney, wait one full year after the forum was created to register on it? Also, he registered two weeks before Satoshi Nakamotos final post on the forum. Coincidence? I doubt it. He knew he was retiring the Satoshi account and would no longer work on the project due to being diagnosed with ALS in October 2009. Yes, he was diagnosed with ALS two months before Satoshi disappeared.

Another interesting point some need to consider is that all timestamps on the forum point to Satoshi being a man in the western part of the United States in either California, Oregon, or Nevada. Hal Finney was in California. Which brings me to my next point. There was only one man in California named Satoshi Nakamoto. This man lived two streets over from Hal Finney. Let that sink in for a second. No, this man had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Bitcoin. He’s not a computer programmer in any way. I don’t even believe Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto even met. Hal Finney saw that Satoshi Nakamotos house was being foreclosed two streets away and thought it would be the ultimate symbol to the Bitcoin project and an example of banks mistreating people. A problem Bitcoin can solve. That, and he had a cool name.

Another point to be made here and another piece of compelling evidence is that Satoshi Nakamoto presumably mined blocks 1-77 of Bitcoin, Hal mined block 78, and Satoshi mined blocks 79-125. Hal claims to have mined Block 78 but not blocks 72-77. However, blocks 72-78 were more than likely (in my opinion, 95%) mined on the same extraNonce slope by the same person. If you do not know what an extraNonce slope is, please click the link below for reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0

People will always point to the email conversations between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney in January 2009 and onwards. Those mean absolutely nothing. Hal Finney was a very intelligent man and thought literally every detail about his project through. He was more than likely scared of past digital currency founders and operators getting arrested without technically breaking the law. Please google Liberty Dollar and/or Liberty Currency. This and Hal thought Bitcoin would succeed more so without a face and creator. Although I think it more has to do with the legal aspect. So Hal knew he had to have a fictional character create Bitcoin to avoid any issues. Now why Email himself? Easy. 1) He knew he would be one of the first people suspected of creating Bitcoin and wanted an Alibi. 2) He probably eventually wanted to work on the project himself and retire Satoshi. Mostly, #1. And no, E-Mailing himself does not mean he had multiple personality disorder in any way. It just means he carefully planned his alibi from the start of the project.
 
Another point is Hal Finney received the first ever Bitcoin Transaction. This is not hard evidence by any means but if I’m working on a project like Bitcoin, I’m sending myself the first ever transaction to see if it works.

This one is purely speculation but I thought I’d add it in. Hal and Satoshi both had @gmx email addresses as one of the emails they used. Not a super common email service (at least to my knowledge).

Another piece, Hal Finney Article on Double Spending:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

There you have my findings and thoughts on Hal Finney being Satoshi Nakamoto. This is obviously only speculation on my part but there is not much doubt in my own mind that Hal and Satoshi are the same person.

Hal Finney created Bitcoin.

I will be creating a video on this, basically saying what I have said in this post. I will post the link in the first post when I do make it.


There is a difference in Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finneys behavior on writing. Satoshi always use double space after each sentence (dot), Hal Finey use only one space.
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I guess it's very useless to know the identity of Satoshi now, bitcoin has a better flow in the market without his presence. So even Satoshi Nakamoto is Hal Finneys so what, do they really needed in the community now?

Once the real satoshi reveals himself, politics will enter the cryptocurrency and the purpose of bitcoin will be defeated. That's the reason why the identity of the founder is still anonymous since 2009. It's been 10 years and still no single information about satoshi has been revealed.
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It's true we all must be curious as to what the legendary figure of satoshi nakamoto has been able to create bitcoin.
But think about it carefully by all of us, if we know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will make conditions better.
And we can benefit. The answer is clearly no, so I think it's better for satoshi nakamoto to remain anonymous.
Because this is the best choice, we just focus on bitcoin. That is certainly bitcoin is more able to provide benefits.

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February 05, 2020, 12:10:40 PM
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I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

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Finney was a cypherpunk and said:

It seemed so obvious to me: "Here we are faced with the problems of loss of privacy, creeping computerization, massive databases, more centralization - and [David] Chaum offers a completely different direction to go in, one which puts power into the hands of individuals rather than governments and corporations. The computer can be used as a tool to liberate and protect people, rather than to control them."

He was an early Bitcoin user and received the first bitcoin transaction from Bitcoin's creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Finney lived in the same town for 10 years that Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto lived (Temple City, California), adding to speculation that he may have been Bitcoin's creator.[10] Finney denied that he was Satoshi Nakamoto.


He also lived a few blocks from a man named Dorian Nakamoto, according to Forbes journalist Andy Greenberg.[30] Greenberg asked the writing analysis consultancy Juola & Associates to compare a sample of Finney's writing to Satoshi Nakamoto's, and they found that it was the closest resemblance they had yet come across (including the candidates suggested by Newsweek, Fast Company, The New Yorker, Ted Nelson and Skye Grey).[30] Greenberg theorized that Finney may have been a ghostwriter on behalf of Nakamoto, or that he simply used his neighbor Dorian's identity as a "drop" or "patsy whose personal information is used to hide online exploits". However, after meeting Finney, seeing the emails between him and Nakamoto and his bitcoin wallet's history (including the very first bitcoin transaction from Nakamoto to him, which he forgot to pay back) and hearing his denial, Greenberg concluded that Finney was telling the truth. Juola & Associates also found that Nakamoto's emails to Finney more closely resemble Nakamoto's other writings than Finney's do.

In a May 2011 article, Szabo stated about the bitcoin creator: "Myself, Wei Dai, and Hal Finney were the only people I know of who liked the idea (or in Dai's case his related idea) enough to pursue it to any significant extent until Nakamoto (assuming Nakamoto is not really Finney or Dai).

During the last year of his life, the Finneys received anonymous calls demanding an extortion fee of 1,000 bitcoin. They became victims of swatting – a hoax "where the perpetrator calls up emergency dispatch using a spoofed telephone number and pretends to have committed a heinous crime in the hopes of provoking an armed police response to the victim's home".[11] Extortionists have demanded fees of more bitcoins than Finney had left after using the majority of them to cover medical expenses in 2013.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto

My conclusion
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai
Double spending was written by Hal Finney

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Finney did an interview right before his death while he new perfectly well this was be his last interview. He had no reason to not reveal if he was SN, moreover, he told he wasn't Satoshi

If you were him... will you protect your family interest, he may likely does not want anyone to disturb his family codes. He's a wise man.

This reminds me of a story where a black politician man built a company in the name of a white man to free himself off corruption allegation. He planned with the white man and used the white name on the documents and handed over to him. guess what? the white man handed all documents to his son killed himself, when the black man came for him documents, the son won the case and claim the company.
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I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

just because they ban cryptos does that mean they hate the creater or will jail the creator ? no that is not a right thing to do . for example other currency or payment method , other country does not also allow them but did they accuse the creator of those currency and payment methods ? no  they didnt .

why cant you just look on the bright side and think that satoshi can convince those country if what are the good benefits the bitcoin can bring  . he will recieve an award instead of getting him into jail .
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I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.

just because they ban cryptos does that mean they hate the creater or will jail the creator ? no that is not a right thing to do . for example other currency or payment method , other country does not also allow them but did they accuse the creator of those currency and payment methods ? no  they didnt .

why cant you just look on the bright side and think that satoshi can convince those country if what are the good benefits the bitcoin can bring  . he will recieve an award instead of getting him into jail .
but the problem is Satoshi is not there to depend Himself or to do that what you are saying a Convincing effort.
this is the big problem because they are just throwing stone to the creator but nothing can do to depend.
but let them do their thing and let us wait when the Adoption happen because for sure they will regret what actions they are doing right now.









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February 09, 2020, 11:05:55 PM
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These are good findings of Hal Finney and there are many claiming to be the creator of Bitcoin, the famous from them being  Craig Steven Wright. But does the identity really matter now? The person or group of people has given us how to be financial independent using blockchain technology which is decentralized and not in control of any.  That is really worth more of a discussion than finding who is Satoshi.

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February 11, 2020, 09:31:41 PM
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I understand that all of us are really curious about the personality of satoshi nakamoto and who is this satoshi nakamoto behind all of this so called bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But the thing is if Satoshi Nakamoto rebeal himself/herself then probably it would be a big problem for him because as of now the government and many countries are banning cryptocurrency into their country and what if they know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is then probably there is a chance that they will put him/her to the jail, so as of now it would be really better if Satoshi Nakamoto will not reveal his true identity or personality and remain anonymous to his security purposes also.
That could be the worst possibility. Bitcoin is very controversial, right? Although there are certain reasons behind the hiding of that identity, it must be the best choice of the genius of a person or group that makes this bitcoin. Everything is planned and calculated carefully. Then, how important is it actually for us to find out who Satoshi really is? I think it's just selfishness, I already feel happy enough to be able to use cryptocurrency to benefit.

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February 12, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
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I agree with those saying that it doesn't matter who was the creator of Bitcoin. It's a great invention, and I personally will always be grateful to that person, but since I'm no tax authority I don't care about his/her legal name. Also, what I'm pretty sure of is that that person can't care less about me knowing or not their real name either.

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February 13, 2020, 05:11:05 AM
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He is not Satoshi Nakamoto, why? Here is one clue.

Look at the very first transaction that took place, basically Satoshi sent Hal 10 BTC to this address

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

Now that address belongs to Hal. It had a transaction in 2017, years after his death, it sent 0.0343BTC somewhere, probably some exchange. Most likely its his family member who made the transaction. That amount is only $300 or so.

If he really was Satoshi, his family would have access to 1 million BTC and most likely from time to time be selling 50 BTC blocks worth half a million instead of only $300. If you had over $10 billion, would you go thru the hassle to claim $300?

This doesn't make sense. He is not Satoshi. This is only one reason of many.

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...If he really was Satoshi, his family would have access to 1 million BTC and most likely from time to time be selling 50 BTC blocks worth half a million instead of only $300. If you had over $10 billion, would you go thru the hassle to claim $300?

This doesn't make sense. He is not Satoshi. This is only one reason of many.

Why not? not everyone must think like you, i admit that is really strange ofc, but Hall was a strange&brilliant guy, maybe he put some specials conditions to his family about his fortune... who know? there is lot of things that we "will" never know, people should never discard any possibilities...

IMHO #1.b of suspects, Hal Finney is/was S.N.
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I was interested in who Satoshi Nakamoto was, and I have researched many times, but I don't wonder anymore.
Satoshi Nakamoto would have done this if he wanted to explain himself, but he preferred to be secret, and I respect his decision.
Bitcoin created by Satoshi Nakamoto is now more than 10 years old, this is written in the history of economics.

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March 29, 2020, 09:52:29 AM
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Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?
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Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?

The coronavirus does not have any relation to the bitcoin because at the first place it is just the market transaction of the fiat currency and at the same time there are many people holding their coins because the halving is coming too right now and this is one of the most effective things they can do to make more income buy a lot of bitcoin so while the market is slowly recovering they can now be made a lot of profit, still we cannot identify what are the moves of the market because it is volatile but still there are a lot of things that you can identify what are the next graph of the bitcoin.

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March 29, 2020, 11:02:06 AM
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Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?
If that Group that you are mentioning is holding 1,000,000 BTC then why need to sell thousand when they can sell even more?

and besides there is no relation the panicking market for the Gorup because they are surely capable of Standing this Bear market and don't need to sell this small amount to cover their expenses .









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I dropped the real identity of Nakamoto on Friday night. It was quietly removed by the admin in a soft censor and even removed my posting history.

Do you think I hit a soft spot ?   
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I dropped the real identity of Nakamoto on Friday night. It was quietly removed by the admin in a soft censor and even removed my posting history.

  
What are you referring to Huh There might be some reason why they deleted your post. Perhaps it is not that true at all and you compromised someone's privacy with it. The real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is not uncovered up til now coz no one's really sure of who he is and where he come from, the network is decentralized and the only man in the beginning that you'll see is Hal and his bitcoin address.

Do you think I hit a soft spot ?
I guess even the admins do not know Satoshi is, if you hit a spot then it might be on top of the discussion if not then the reasons are pretty obvious. 
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Recently somebody sold 1000 BTC which were never moved before - just mined and stored. Could it be that the actual person mining those 20 blocks was somebody from the group of people which created bitcoin? Now corona virus panic forced to sell?

I guess so mate, many of these mined Bitcoin where kept for something like this to happen. Also, this could be not as we think, the coins could actually belong to other anybody in the industry, so, nobody should be tag to this Bitcoin.

Frankly speaking, we should actually forget  about this man called Satoshi Nakamoto, he has just moved on to other projects and we should think other things. Continuing in the search of where about Satoshi Nakamoto will always create unbalance ideas, he's gone and we're here to continue the journey.

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What are you referring to Huh There might be some reason why they deleted your post. Perhaps it is not that true at all and you compromised someone's privacy with it. The real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is not uncovered up til now coz no one's really sure of who he is and where he come from, the network is decentralized and the only man in the beginning that you'll see is Hal and his bitcoin address.


I did not give a name.. there is no name, I explained in light detail that BTC is an intelligence agency project and Nakamoto is simply a usenet poster ID ..  I gave an extensive list of reasons why, I noted there was no conclusive evidence for either theory but an overwhelming amount that favors Nakamoto being simply a myth and a poster ID to drop the white paper.
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I did not give a name.. there is no name, I explained in light detail that BTC is an intelligence agency project and Nakamoto is simply a usenet poster ID ..  I gave an extensive list of reasons why, I noted there was no conclusive evidence for either theory but an overwhelming amount that favors Nakamoto being simply a myth and a poster ID to drop the white paper.
So you mean Satoshi Nakamoto is just a conspiracy...
does your theory have a source? because so far many people believe that Satoshi exists but does not want to show himself to the public. if you are willing, please attach your source.


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