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January 03, 2018, 06:26:33 AM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.
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January 03, 2018, 06:43:31 AM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.

Shit U think U have trouble, 3 months ago my bank kicked back my antminer order from bitmain, I had finally got orders for s-9, l-3, d-3 all approved, bank sent email that money sent, then 3 days later bank sent email that transaction closed, called bank and they said you can't use your money to buy mining equipment in hong-kong, wait what? I said fuck it, ...I could buy btc and sell it to bitmain for HW, but I prefer to get rid of my fucking USA/USD fiat that has no future, ... but wait they have something else in mind,

It's already here folks, ... and its hard to exit

Long ago, this used to be our money, and a wire was a wire, now days, u do a foreign wire and some jackass at DHS has 1-3 days to find a 'money laundering vector' in your transaction, I guess U could have your own HK account, but wait, can't do that anymore as FATCA (USA) doesn't allow us to have offshore accounts, but wait I can't send MY MONEY to a foreign account either, ... hmmm

It's for the best the antminer shit is nice, but GPU's are much easier to obtain, just pay cash and be done

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Oh, and one last thing I told the bank I was buying a very special PC ( personal computer ) from HK, but they knew exactly what I was buying, they had already been told that chinese account in HK, was linked to bitcoin asic-hw firms in CHINA, so the next question is do I have to get a fuciing permit from homeland security to buy this bitch? Where is the approval process? NADA, last thing I want is to get permission from IRS to be a bitcoin miner. Smiley
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January 03, 2018, 07:14:35 AM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.

What company are you talking about?
If it was a wire transfer it is a transfer between banks as per definition.

So your bank sent the money to the bank that deals with Coinbase.
Since it's fairly obvious that the other bank bank deals with crytpto related funds it's obvious the culprit is your bank.
Change your bank.

I've been receiving funds and sending funds to exchnges for years and never experienced a single problem.

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January 03, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
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new rules things are rapidly changing all over the world, new rules new regulations, random enforcement

selective laws, depending on the whim

new software, foreign versus domestic transfer

cozy relationship of your bank and the IRS

I know in recent year its been the credit unions getting the pinch, they used to be immune from the DHS bullshit, now they got the heat on them,

Note all this shit is designed to eliminate exit points of bitcoin that don't play along with the IRS tax collectors random demands, this is why COINBASE handed over all data to IRS so they could MINE ( deep learning )  all coinbase customers, if u haven't gotten an IRS letter or visit yet, don't worry u will,
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January 03, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
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Was it a large amount? Banks also have to comply with anti money laundering laws, and they may have been afraid to get caught up in that. I have heard of some banks in the US tagging crypto transactions as scams of sorts, but I've personally never encountered this problem. The US government, obviously allows it, but banks can have different internal policies.

Either way, you should let your money do the talking. Take your business elsewhere. Let them know that that kind of behavior will not be tolerated as you close your account. It may make them reconsider in the future if enough people do it.

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January 03, 2018, 01:44:12 PM
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Because cryptocurrency transactions may involve money laundering, many foreign exchange companies refuse to encrypt currencies to avoid trouble and policy.

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January 03, 2018, 06:45:26 PM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.

What company are you talking about?
If it was a wire transfer it is a transfer between banks as per definition.

So your bank sent the money to the bank that deals with Coinbase.
Since it's fairly obvious that the other bank bank deals with crytpto related funds it's obvious the culprit is your bank.
Change your bank.

I've been receiving funds and sending funds to exchnges for years and never experienced a single problem.

When she called me she rattled off some name. Not a persons name. An organization. It’s actually a credit union I use not a bank. I’m just use to calling it the bank. The anount was 3400.00. I don’t know if that is considered a lot.


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January 03, 2018, 06:52:40 PM
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I only have a problem is it's over a few thousand. I now leave a couple grand in my usd wallet in coinbase which does make me nervous but I leave it to jump on any dips. I don't beleive anything will remain unhackable especially at the exchange point. Bitcoin will remain relevant as long as people have confidence of it.
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January 03, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
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It's a good example showing us again that we don't own the money deposited in the bank (we lend it to the bank with a promise to get it back whenever we want)  and we have not a full control on our own money.

That's why cryptocurrencies have been invented: be your own bank, nobody will tell you nah you can't buy this, nah you already spend $250 this week, nah the bank don't like this company so no money can be sent to it.

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January 03, 2018, 06:57:37 PM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.

Shit U think U have trouble, 3 months ago my bank kicked back my antminer order from bitmain, I had finally got orders for s-9, l-3, d-3 all approved, bank sent email that money sent, then 3 days later bank sent email that transaction closed, called bank and they said you can't use your money to buy mining equipment in hong-kong, wait what? I said fuck it, ...I could buy btc and sell it to bitmain for HW, but I prefer to get rid of my fucking USA/USD fiat that has no future, ... but wait they have something else in mind,

It's already here folks, ... and its hard to exit

Long ago, this used to be our money, and a wire was a wire, now days, u do a foreign wire and some jackass at DHS has 1-3 days to find a 'money laundering vector' in your transaction, I guess U could have your own HK account, but wait, can't do that anymore as FATCA (USA) doesn't allow us to have offshore accounts, but wait I can't send MY MONEY to a foreign account either, ... hmmm

It's for the best the antminer shit is nice, but GPU's are much easier to obtain, just pay cash and be done

***

Oh, and one last thing I told the bank I was buying a very special PC ( personal computer ) from HK, but they knew exactly what I was buying, they had already been told that chinese account in HK, was linked to bitcoin asic-hw firms in CHINA, so the next question is do I have to get a fuciing permit from homeland security to buy this bitch? Where is the approval process? NADA, last thing I want is to get permission from IRS to be a bitcoin miner. Smiley




I thought Bitmain only took payment in crypto?
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January 03, 2018, 07:02:02 PM
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Banks are seeing crypto currency as a threat to their business and also pushing the government to ban it permanently. So they are now unofficially calling a war against it by unreasonable means. The problem is not going to a better stage anytime soon until the government provides a proper framework for using the cryptos. Once a framework is given by the government, then such problems can be tackled. But if the government bans it, you are fucked.

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January 03, 2018, 07:10:12 PM
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I've kept crypto transactions away from my bank accounts. When I closed my dollar account, I transferred all the money into my domain registrar account, and I'm selling domain names for Bitcoin. It's a very slow process, but in the end you make more money.

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January 03, 2018, 07:18:33 PM
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Because cryptocurrency transactions may involve money laundering, many foreign exchange companies refuse to encrypt currencies to avoid trouble and policy.

This isn't a reason for a bank to deny a transaction. There were no facts indicating intent to do harm.

You need to take your business elsewhere, there are other banks that would allow this transaction to go through just fine. Don't tolerate the poor service any longer. The banks can either compete with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency or die.
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January 03, 2018, 07:32:21 PM
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I've kept crypto transactions away from my bank accounts. When I closed my dollar account, I transferred all the money into my domain registrar account, and I'm selling domain names for Bitcoin. It's a very slow process, but in the end you make more money.

You sell crypto-related domain names for fiat USD!?! You're a hack!
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January 03, 2018, 07:37:09 PM
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Well I suppose before I switch banks. I should ask the new bank if they can do a wire transfer to crypto related organizations first.
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January 03, 2018, 07:41:08 PM
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Cause crypto is mostly used for illegal transactions, like drugs. There's literally no other use for crypto currencies(btc) seeing that it's slow with extremely high fees.

This and I've given up on the idea of cryptos as currencies of the future, due to quantum computing. If your coins are stolen because the blockchain is broken into(a extremely real and soonish event), you can't do anything about it and they're lost forever. With a bank or physical commodities(gold, platinum for ex), at least you have insurance and/or a physical item(that can't be hacked), and can get your money back
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January 03, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
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I am disappointed. I tried to wire money to Coinbase today from my bank. They put the wire through and then a couple hours later called me to say it was denied. The company that does the transfers kicked it out because it was crypto currency related. I don’t see what it even matters to them. All they had to do was transfer the money in my account. I can only guess that they feel like it’s a gateway for illegal activity or something like that. It just shows we have a little ways to go yet before BTC is really accepted.

Gradually they are tightening every avenue that seems to make transaction with crypto frustrating with new rules happening at every moment. I guess they felt the KYCs is really not deterring people from patronising the crypto world and the next thing is to frustrate every activities. If they cannot buy using fiat or convert to their fiat, we can then be sure they will be discouraged because that will mean whetever coin they hold would be useless since they cannot even use it to buy the basic thing they want to use. This is sure the thinking of the formulators of policies and the regulators implementing such.

Unfortunately, all the rules and policies can only slow things down and not eradicate because I would then start thinking of alternatives of getting my activities done either through the bank in another way or even boycotting the entire banking system and still get things done. A door closes opens opportunities for more to open.
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January 03, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
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yeah seems like the claping down  in a big on the old crypto .I think you can use western union to transfer to banks account  if your really stuck .I thinks the fees are not to bad if your sending to a bank account

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January 03, 2018, 09:35:07 PM
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Well I suppose before I switch banks. I should ask the new bank if they can do a wire transfer to crypto related organizations first.
There's no use asking them about the crypto transactions. They will say they allow it, because they need to have new accounts opened every month, so they will promise everything to get you open a new account. And after a while you will try to send a crypto related transaction, the chance is still 50%-50% if it will go thru. Why don't you ask the community, which bank is OK in your country for crypto transactions? I  can periodically see questions on this forum from various members to ask for a crypto friendly bank in their country. Give it a try, ask on the forum.
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January 03, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
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Such issies mostly depend on the policy of your bank. Many payment systems like Okpay or Skrill offer bank cards and have an option of funding an account via bitcoin but the bank that issued a cards is blocking all crypto related transactions. You've got almost the same kind of problem. My advice is that you can try to "launder" your crypto money thru some other payment methods or just exchange it in localbitcoins for fiat from other users.

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