2013-08-04 WSJ: Famed Trader Joe Lewis Backs Bitcoin (hoax)

[LiteCoinGuy]

at least it is PRESS for bitcoin, so i like it 

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[BlackBison]

lol I just made this



Nice. Can you remake it with 'USE BITCOIN' instead? I think that would be a bit better.

[Ytterbium]

Here's a (paywall free) article about this isn't true: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/private-investor-and-trader-joe-lewis-not-backing-bitcoin-ventures-2013-08-05

[vokain]

Here's a (paywall free) article about this isn't true: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/private-investor-and-trader-joe-lewis-not-backing-bitcoin-ventures-2013-08-05

"I have no investments whatsoever in any Bitcoin ventures," said Lewis.

Too bad for him, he should very well consider it more closely now.

[yuriygeorge]

Interesting, because the author's (Harriet Agnew) tweet is still up:

https://twitter.com/HarrietAgnew

[dexX7]

Hate to say "I told you so" but...oh no wait...I don't hate it at all.  It's incredible the level of faith you people have in old media.  Even now, you people are posting here with notions like "Oh, but this is the media.  They would never just publish on rumour right?  There has to be something more to this!"  Unfortunately, when you want to be the first to press, you will publish on rumour and yes, journalists do this a lot more often than the public realizes.

People who posted that someone would lose their job over this and that the story must have been true because no one would risk their job like that...also getting it wrong.  There may be a meeting and someone may be scolded but this isn't like reporting the wrong sex of the royal baby; this is a story on bitcoin rumours.  A story with niche appeal.  In other words, no biggy.  Unfortunate, undesired and unprofessional sure but also unsubstantial in its effect on general credibility.

Seriously, why the hell do some of you think the mainstream media prints gospel? If it's "because they're the established media" then you should give your head a shake and think a little more critically.

+1

And not the WSJ fucked up, but Bitcoin Examiner. But what is very more interesting: Bitcoin Examiner gained such a high level of credibility till know, that this happened.

[vokain]

Hate to say "I told you so" but...oh no wait...I don't hate it at all.  It's incredible the level of faith you people have in old media.  Even now, you people are posting here with notions like "Oh, but this is the media.  They would never just publish on rumour right?  There has to be something more to this!"  Unfortunately, when you want to be the first to press, you will publish on rumour and yes, journalists do this a lot more often than the public realizes.

People who posted that someone would lose their job over this and that the story must have been true because no one would risk their job like that...also getting it wrong.  There may be a meeting and someone may be scolded but this isn't like reporting the wrong sex of the royal baby; this is a story on bitcoin rumours.  A story with niche appeal.  In other words, no biggy.  Unfortunate, undesired and unprofessional sure but also unsubstantial in its effect on general credibility.

Seriously, why the hell do some of you think the mainstream media prints gospel? If it's "because they're the established media" then you should give your head a shake and think a little more critically.

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And not the WSJ fucked up, but Bitcoin Examiner. But what is very more interesting: Bitcoin Examiner gained such a high level of credibility till know, that this happened.

WSJ fucked up by not fact checking from a primary source the stuff their hires wrote.

[DeathAndTaxes]

WSJ fucked up by not fact checking from a primary source the stuff their hires wrote.

Exactly.  If you put your name on it, you are vouching for it.  They did and the story was bogus.

[Ytterbium]

I am definitely surprised that the WSJ would run a story like this without a thorough fact-checking, but it sounds like that's what happened. I would have expected the reporter to at least check with multiple sources.

[vokain]

I am definitely surprised that the WSJ would run a story like this without a thorough fact-checking, but it sounds like that's what happened. I would have expected the reporter to at least check with multiple sources.

right?? it makes me so angry

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I found the following as soon as the story broke but got sidetracked.


Current account.

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https://twitter.com/frankieterrier

Andrew Laurus
@frankieterrier
Marketing MA, LBS. ex. Senior Bond Manager (Sales) @ Lehman. Emerging Markets Manager for Private equity Fund. (Taking time off for Bitcoin Mining project)
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@frankieterrier Update
 
Marketing MA, LSB. ex. Senior Bond Manager (Sales) @ Lehman. Currently seeking small business opportunity.

This was the main reason why I felt it was a scam from the get-go, but failed to present it because I got caught up in a parallel dialog.

[vokain]

So you're saying this is pro marketing at work? interesting if so

[Phinnaeus Gage]

So you're saying this is pro marketing at work? interesting.

Take a look at this and compare to current account while I take and crop screenshots: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eopV5NmMVGkJ:twitbridge.com/frankieterrier+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Note the tweets that are no longer available.

[vokain]

So you're saying this is pro marketing at work? interesting.

Take a look at this and compare to current account while I take and crop screenshots: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eopV5NmMVGkJ:twitbridge.com/frankieterrier+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Note the tweets that are no longer available.

business is business i suppose. interesting indeed in how far someone will go to get their company in the spotlight

[Phinnaeus Gage]

So you're saying this is pro marketing at work? interesting.

Take a look at this and compare to current account while I take and crop screenshots: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eopV5NmMVGkJ:twitbridge.com/frankieterrier+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Note the tweets that are no longer available.

business is business i suppose. interesting indeed in how far someone will go to get their company in the spotlight

Ironically, he mentions starting a charity, which you I are part of (going by your sig).

Here are the screenshots before he deleted posts on his current account: https://twitter.com/frankieterrier

[giszmo]

Screenshots and links and quotes and stuff …

Mind writing a TLDR. It's late and my brain doesn't parse what's your point.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Diggin' a little deeper! https://twitter.com/MoAzeel

@MoAzeel
Business Development Consultant for http://www.GrowthAccelerator.com
London · growthaccelerator.com

Mo Azeel ‏@MoAzeel 8 Jul
@frankieterrier Hi Andy. Nice to see you're back. I heard you're working with the Tavistock bunch. Nice work if you can get it.

But notice the number of tweets Mo deleted: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qdxr7KkU86UJ:https://twitter.com/MoAzeel+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Screenshots and links and quotes and stuff …

Mind writing a TLDR. It's late and my brain doesn't parse what's your point.

That Frankie purposely changed his name to Andrew, and that this ruse was planned in early July as just now shown above.

[dexX7]

Here are the screenshots before he deleted posts on his current account: https://twitter.com/frankieterrier

Very good detective work!

Though this only shows that he talked about mining, but it's not really a clue that he was directly involved in creating false news.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Here are the screenshots before he deleted posts on his current account: https://twitter.com/frankieterrier

Very good detective work!

Though this only shows that he talked about mining, but it's not really a clue that he was directly involved in creating false news.

If I could only find a Bitcoiner that vacations in the Bahamas and deals in seeds like Frankie Terrier does, with both living in the same mainly French speaking country that's not France, then I may be one step closer in solving this mystery.

But what are the odds of that happening?

The icing on the cake would be if that mystical person posted on this forum at the same exact time as he posted on Twitter.

BTW, I've officially put more time in this than the two seasoned reporters, one of which is the editor, did in the WSJ article that's no longer available--and they were paid for their efforts, of which I had to pay to not only read it, but to no longer be able to read it. Now that's value!

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I think he knows that I know what he was hoping no one else would ever know, you know?

https://twitter.com/frankieterrier

For those of you interested I will be posting a statement on thur re #bitcoin and press reports and #joelewis