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July 07, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
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From http://www.betabeat.com/2011/07/07/bitcoin-flamers-force-lawyer-to-drop-u-s-trademark-application-so-now-hes-trying-it-abroad/
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Bitcoin enthusiasts were incensed at the application’s claim to ”first use” of the word Bitcoin in commerce on June 22, 2011, the date the application was filed. As evidence, Mr. Pascazi submitted a letter from Celine Pascazi offering to sell Bitcoins for $17.50, also dated June 22. Bitcoiners say the digital currency has been in circulation since as early as 2009.

Mr. Pascazi is aware that Bitcoin has existed for a while. But he was skeptical that its use in commerce could be proven in court, he said.

“My understanding is that they are anonymous and untraceable,” he said. “So how would one prove that a person-to-person transaction occurred?”

Bitcoin transactions are like cash transactions as far as a court is concerned, he said–a.k.a., “not strong compelling evidence.”

“Nonetheless, my client has decided to withdraw the application in the United States because apparently there will be some sort of, there are lots of people interested and alleging they can prove first-to-use and so forth. So strategically that will happen today and simultaneously applications will be made in civil law jurisdictions around the world where the doctrine is first to file,” he said.

That includes France, Italy, Spain, Japan and possibly China, he said.

“In the spirit of capitalism, if somebody sees an opportunity, my view is they should be allowed to seize it and if it never develops into anything, well, nothing ventured, nothing gained,” he said.

I suggest seeing the full article at http://www.betabeat.com/2011/07/07/bitcoin-flamers-force-lawyer-to-drop-u-s-trademark-application-so-now-hes-trying-it-abroad/

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July 07, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
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From http://www.betabeat.com/2011/07/07/bitcoin-flamers-force-lawyer-to-drop-u-s-trademark-application-so-now-hes-trying-it-abroad/
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Bitcoin enthusiasts were incensed at the application’s claim to ”first use” of the word Bitcoin in commerce on June 22, 2011, the date the application was filed. As evidence, Mr. Pascazi submitted a letter from Celine Pascazi offering to sell Bitcoins for $17.50, also dated June 22. Bitcoiners say the digital currency has been in circulation since as early as 2009.

Mr. Pascazi is aware that Bitcoin has existed for a while. But he was skeptical that its use in commerce could be proven in court, he said.

“My understanding is that they are anonymous and untraceable,” he said. “So how would one prove that a person-to-person transaction occurred?”

Bitcoin transactions are like cash transactions as far as a court is concerned, he said–a.k.a., “not strong compelling evidence.”

“Nonetheless, my client has decided to withdraw the application in the United States because apparently there will be some sort of, there are lots of people interested and alleging they can prove first-to-use and so forth. So strategically that will happen today and simultaneously applications will be made in civil law jurisdictions around the world where the doctrine is first to file,” he said.

That includes France, Italy, Spain, Japan and possibly China, he said.

“In the spirit of capitalism, if somebody sees an opportunity, my view is they should be allowed to seize it and if it never develops into anything, well, nothing ventured, nothing gained,” he said.

I suggest seeing the full article at http://www.betabeat.com/2011/07/07/bitcoin-flamers-force-lawyer-to-drop-u-s-trademark-application-so-now-hes-trying-it-abroad/


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July 07, 2011, 08:47:22 PM
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What a crock, trying to get ownership of something he didn't create nor owes. He should be stripped of his rights and licenses of being a lawyer.
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July 07, 2011, 09:04:15 PM
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What a crock, trying to get ownership of something he didn't create nor owes. He should be stripped of his rights and licenses of being a lawyer.
Isn't that what lawyers are for?
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July 07, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
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omg... i seriously hope he quits before it's too late...
If he doesn't he will wish he had stuck his penis in a hornet's nest instead of trying this...

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July 07, 2011, 10:34:18 PM
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and the ddosing of his website and home connections begins in 3... 2... 1...


and the planting of illegal images on his computer hard drive will be complete in 3... 2..

and redirecting of various phone sex lines to his cell phone should wrap up in 3...


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July 07, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
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He's definitely stirring a hornet's nest.
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July 07, 2011, 10:51:56 PM
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He should immediately drop it and make a public apology. Otherwise he deserves all the negative PR and grief he has coming.
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July 07, 2011, 10:53:13 PM
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public enemy in my eyes.
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July 08, 2011, 11:33:19 AM
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July 08, 2011, 11:45:04 AM
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Is he referring to himself as "my client"?

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July 08, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
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Check out the 'status' on this page:

http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85353491&action=Request+Status

Doesn't say anything about it being cancelled.

Can anyone link to some actual evidence that it's been dropped?

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July 08, 2011, 12:27:24 PM
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“I don’t think you will find that mark registered in any country. If it in fact is so important to so many people, as I’ve received lots of indicators that it is, I sort of ponder the question, would I let that mark go unregistered if it were that important? Either it’s not important to them or it’s important but they’re not doing anything about it because… it’s easier to sit on your couch and complain than to do something,” he said.
What a douche. He's trying to call us lazy, whilst at the same time is attempting to trademark something he didn't even create. No one has trademarked it because no one owns it. It's open source software, a decentralized P2P network. No one owns the software or name.

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July 08, 2011, 12:48:25 PM
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“I don’t think you will find that mark registered in any country. If it in fact is so important to so many people, as I’ve received lots of indicators that it is, I sort of ponder the question, would I let that mark go unregistered if it were that important? Either it’s not important to them or it’s important but they’re not doing anything about it because… it’s easier to sit on your couch and complain than to do something,” he said.
What a douche. He's trying to call us lazy, whilst at the same time is attempting to trademark something he didn't even create. No one has trademarked it because no one owns it. It's open source software, a decentralized P2P network. No one owns the software or name.
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Check out the 'status' on this page:

http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85353491&action=Request+Status

Doesn't say anything about it being cancelled.

Can anyone link to some actual evidence that it's been dropped?

This too

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Mr. Pascazi became interested in Bitcoin recently after reading about it. He’s a former electrical engineer who worked at IBM and then ran a fiberoptics telecommunications firm for 20 years. “I’m not just some guy who crawled out of a lawbook,” he said.
"whereas all these guys are just stupid geeks not knowing anything about laws and business", he meant

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July 10, 2011, 02:38:07 AM
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The Michael Pascazi trademark troll google punishment just started! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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July 10, 2011, 04:27:46 AM
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It's already begun, someone in Chile has registered BITCOIN as a trademark, and they are not TradeHill.

http://web1.inapi.cl/dpi_web/ConsultasBasicas/pagina_marca.asp

Type bitcoin in the search box, and follow the link.

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July 10, 2011, 04:31:14 AM
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The Michael Pascazi trademark troll google punishment just started! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Michael S Pascazi - does the s stand for scammer ?

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July 10, 2011, 04:47:09 AM
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The Michael Pascazi trademark troll google punishment just started! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Michael S Pascazi - does the s stand for scammer ?

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nope.  shitferbrains.
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July 10, 2011, 05:07:05 AM
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Hahaha I just googled the name of this incompetent lawyer and the scammer site was at the top of the list already.

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