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August 09, 2013, 08:47:53 AM
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Check out the whois for bitcoincharts.com
"DOMAIN: BITCOINCHARTS.COM

RSP: KalyHost
URL: http://www.kalyhost.com/

created-date: 2010-11-08 02:11:21
updated-date: 2013-06-13 09:00:02
registration-expiration-date: 2014-11-08 02:11:21

owner-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
owner-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
owner-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
owner-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
owner-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
owner-zip: 168-0082
owner-country: JP
owner-phone: +81.345501529
owner-fax:
owner-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com"
If they do, this is a problem for the community.
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August 09, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
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Well, that is strange. If they do own BitcoinCharts, then yes, there is a problem... Undecided

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August 09, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
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Check out the whois for bitcoincharts.com
"DOMAIN: BITCOINCHARTS.COM

RSP: KalyHost
URL: http://www.kalyhost.com/

Goxs owns erverything. This Forum too and the foundation.  Therefore, we can do everthing without them.
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August 09, 2013, 10:17:21 AM
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Check out the whois for bitcoincharts.com
"DOMAIN: BITCOINCHARTS.COM

RSP: KalyHost
URL: http://www.kalyhost.com/

Goxs owns erverything. This Forum too and the foundation.  Therefore, we can do everthing without them.

your level of IQ is almost invisible  Cheesy
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August 11, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
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Interesting.

Is Kalyhost MtGox's hosting company?

Maybe if you buy a domain through them and have the privacy feature, it comes up with that info.

Check out BitcoinATMTalk - https://bitcoinatmtalk.com
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September 13, 2013, 08:02:29 PM
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DOMAIN: BITCOINCHARTS.COM
 
  RSP: KalyHost
  URL: http://www.kalyhost.com/
 
  created-date: 2010-11-08 02:11:21
  updated-date: 2013-06-13 09:00:02
  registration-expiration-date: 2014-11-08 02:11:21
 
  owner-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
  owner-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
  owner-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
  owner-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
  owner-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
  owner-zip: 168-0082
  owner-country: JP
  owner-phone: +81.345501529
  owner-fax:
  owner-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com
 
  admin-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
  admin-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
  admin-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
  admin-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
  admin-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
  admin-zip: 168-0082
  admin-country: JP
  admin-phone: +81.345501529
  admin-fax:
  admin-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com
 
  tech-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
  tech-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
  tech-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
  tech-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
  tech-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
  tech-zip: 168-0082
  tech-country: JP
  tech-phone: +81.345501529
  tech-fax:
  tech-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com
 
  billing-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
  billing-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
  billing-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
  billing-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
  billing-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
  billing-zip: 168-0082
  billing-country: JP
  billing-phone: +81.345501529
  billing-fax:
  billing-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com
 
  nameserver: ns1.xta.net 69.64.54.41
  nameserver: ns2.xta.net 50.97.137.60
 
  ; Contact us for more informations - support@kalyhost.com
  ; Get quality support, web hosting, domains and VPS on KalyHost
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What is the diffeence about "K.K. Tibanne Privacy" and Tibanne Ltd?
Tibanne Ltd is the owner of Mt.Gox!
But who is "K.K. Tibanne Privacy", who is the owner of the following domains?

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Company: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
6 most popular domains of this owner:

    bitcoincharts.com - Bitcoin Charts

    Daily visitors: 84 338
    Keywords: bitcoin, bitcoin market, bitcoin graph, bitcoin charts, bitcoin chart, bitcoin price, bitcoin value, bitcoin price history, bitcoin price chart, chart bit
    bitcoinwatch.com - Bitcoin Watch

    Daily visitors: 10 683
    Keywords: bitcoin market, bitcoin difficulty, bitcoin value, bitcoin watch, bitcoinwatch, bitcoin per dollar, bitcoin market size, bitcoin next coin, btc rate, btc difficuty
    nice-ringtones.com - Téléchargez gratuitement plus de 220.000 sonneries mp3 !

    Daily visitors: 320
    Keywords: gsm, fun, téléphone, clip, Iphone, télécharger, logo, gratuite, portables, sonnerie mp3
    btcsportsbet.com - Home | BTCSportsBet

    Daily visitors: -
    Keywords: bet bitcoin, bitcoin betting, bitcoin bet, bet with bitcoin, betting on bitcoin, bitcoin sports betting, bitcoi sports gambling, bitcoin sports gambling, sportsbet overtime, bets bitcoin
    taiki-no-fansub.com

    Daily visitors: -
    Keywords: manga, rock, black, ddl, Beats, straight, eve, nightmare, merry, SLAP
    pro.bitcoincharts.com - Bitcoin Charts Pro
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110356.0

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September 14, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
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So now that MtGox owns bitcoincharts, they purposedly removed their greatest competitor (bitstamp) from the list.

I'm glad they are showing their real face (unless this is some technical malfunction of course).

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September 14, 2013, 01:04:28 PM
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and look this issue about wrong BID - ASK quotes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3140425#msg3140425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3147699#msg3147699

Is this  also only some technical malfunction? From mtgox, or bitcoinity.org? Or  intentionally done by mtgox, to disturb trading bots and scalpers etc?

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September 14, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
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and look this issue about wrong BID - ASK quotes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3140425#msg3140425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3147699#msg3147699

Is this  also only some technical malfunction? From mtgox, or bitcoinity.org? Or  intentionally done by mtgox, to disturb trading bots and scalpers etc?
It seem more and more likely that they are bunch of manipulative motherfuckers.

Somebody prove me wrong please.

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Last edit: September 14, 2013, 04:54:10 PM by realcoin
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It seem more and more likely that they are bunch of manipulative motherfuckers.

Somebody prove me wrong please.
I asked clarkmoody.com if he has same issues. I am not sure about  bitcoinity, coz he had this issue for long time!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43514.msg3152516#msg3152516

EDIT: As you can see in clarks post in thread link above. "Clark: When Gox detects a crossed book, it halts trading and fixes the problem. So the answer is no."

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September 15, 2013, 10:39:25 AM
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and look this issue about wrong BID - ASK quotes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3140425#msg3140425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3147699#msg3147699

Is this  also only some technical malfunction? From mtgox, or bitcoinity.org? Or  intentionally done by mtgox, to disturb trading bots and scalpers etc?

Perhaps someone placed an order for Bitcoins using a higher price than the lowest ask to buy into the asks but limit the maximum price they pay.

I do this all the time. If the sites API requested the details at exactly the time the order was being processed it's possible data like this would show up.

If you ever go to cryptsy which has a truly slow trading engine you can see the same thing happen in real time if you buy out a bunch of coins from the asks. It stays like this until all transactions are processed and things catch up. It does look a little odd though.

From a programming point of view this explains the situation completely.
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September 16, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
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Whoah!  Shocked

Very interesting....  Huh
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September 17, 2013, 10:57:31 PM
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From a programming point of view this explains the situation completely.
Thanks a lot for this explanation! Could you imagine Buttercoin could solve this problem?

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Buttercoin is an open source, high-volume trading engine used to arrange trades in an order book.

http://buttercoin.net/

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February 27, 2014, 03:36:38 AM
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Check out the whois for bitcoincharts.com
"DOMAIN: BITCOINCHARTS.COM

RSP: KalyHost
URL: http://www.kalyhost.com/

created-date: 2010-11-08 02:11:21
updated-date: 2013-06-13 09:00:02
registration-expiration-date: 2014-11-08 02:11:21

owner-organization: K.K. Tibanne Privacy
owner-name: bitcoincharts c73c885c-68fa
owner-street: Fleur Tsuzuki 102
owner-city: Kugayama 5-24-30
owner-state: Tokyo-to, Suginami-ku
owner-zip: 168-0082
owner-country: JP
owner-phone: +81.345501529
owner-fax:
owner-email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com"
If they do, this is a problem for the community.


That would explain why it's offline now.

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Domain Name: BITCOINCHARTS.COM
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.1api.net
Registrar URL: http://www.1api.net
Updated Date: 2014-02-09T19:12:43Z
Creation Date: 2010-11-08T02:11:21Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-11-08T02:11:21Z
Registrar: 1api GmbH
Registrar IANA ID: 1387
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@1api.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.68416984x200
Reseller: KalyHost http://www.kalyhost.com/
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: bitcoincharts db2bb9a8-971e
Registrant Organization: Tibanne Privacy
Registrant Street: Cerulean Tower 15F - 26-1 Sakuragaoka-cho
Registrant City: Shibuya-ku
Registrant State/Province: Tokyo-to
Registrant Postal Code: 150-8512
Registrant Country: JP
Registrant Phone: +81.345501529
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: bitcoincharts.com@service.tibanne.com
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February 27, 2014, 03:41:27 AM
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and look this issue about wrong BID - ASK quotes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3140425#msg3140425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22929.msg3147699#msg3147699

Is this  also only some technical malfunction? From mtgox, or bitcoinity.org? Or  intentionally done by mtgox, to disturb trading bots and scalpers etc?
It seem more and more likely that they are bunch of manipulative motherfuckers.

Somebody prove me wrong please.

Looks like nobody proved you wrong. BTW, the site is now back up. I found this thread via Google.
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February 27, 2014, 03:48:55 AM
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It's run by Nils Schneider, user tcatm on this forum. Many of the bitcoin domains were taken by satoshi, and then put into the hands of various administrators.
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February 27, 2014, 03:49:19 AM
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wow I didn't see this coming!!!
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