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I'm very much looking forward to being able to trade FX, equities and commodities with Bitcoin and especially to having brokerage accounts that allow me to deposit and cash out in BTC. There isn't much out there yet, although I have high hopes for TorBroker and others. So I wanted to start this thread to discuss some of the already existing services and share my experiences as I try out some of the ones already out there, as well as any new ones that might launch soon. Thanks for your good shares ! I will have a look into it |
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February 11, 2016, 11:30:46 AM |
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There's also a growing number of Bitcoin binary option brokers: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Binary_optionsThese can be an interesting alternative for short-term trades, especially if they are #NoAccountNeeded. |
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February 11, 2016, 11:31:55 AM |
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However I am still waiting for smart contract Bitcoin binary options. These could be extremely useful for long term trades as they have the potential to eliminate counterparty risk. It's technically very simple (2 parties put amount in escrow, winner takes all) and would completely eliminate counterparty risk from options trading, as well as KYC.
It would showcase a real, simple use case for smart contracts right now!
The only thing that you need to rely on is a decent oracle... but for very widely known facts (like stock index or currency prices) it should be relatively simple. This is how I imagine it would work: 1. Oracle reports on price of asset (eg: S&P500)
2. Issuer creates smart contract and locks 0.50 BTC
3. Buyer signs smart contract by sending/locking 0.50 BTC
4. On expiry contract asks Oracle if S&P < 1900 True/False
5. Contract pays 1 BTC to winner.
As long as the oracle is reliable and the contract is properly written the relationship between issuer and buyer is complete and finished the moment the contract is created. Also there is no need for any data to be collected from investors. It basically eliminates/disintermediates brokerage.
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March 28, 2016, 02:54:08 AM |
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Thank you for this thread. From my read, the only place to buy stocks online reliably seems to be 1broker. This is a bit frustrating because of the limited number of stocks they offer. Does anybody know of a service like TorBroker or what happened to TorBroker?
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March 28, 2016, 03:02:31 AM |
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This all sounds like trying to buy legitimate securities from someone on the street corner. Im skeptical as to whether you'd actually own anything or if these exchanges are bucket shops where you're just betting on the price of stocks. Why would you need to buy stocks anonymously?
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March 28, 2016, 03:43:24 AM |
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I think that question could be posed for almost anything sold in the BTC and fiat currency world. There are many reasons to buy stocks anonymously; everything from th e libertarian argument to the desire to do illicit activities. As this thread demonstrates, there is a market for this, so you can't fault people for trying to supply the market.
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March 28, 2016, 12:13:11 PM |
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I think that question could be posed for almost anything sold in the BTC and fiat currency world. There are many reasons to buy stocks anonymously; everything from th e libertarian argument to the desire to do illicit activities. As this thread demonstrates, there is a market for this, so you can't fault people for trying to supply the market.
isn't the libertarian argument an illicit activitie? lol |
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March 29, 2016, 02:13:41 AM |
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isn't the libertarian argument an illicit activitie? lol
hahaha.... one could definitely make that argument. I guess I meant some people may lean toward BTC based activities to create less reliance on "institutionalized" and heavily regulated entities. Essentially an argument for greater autonomy with less government interference. That alone isn't necessarily an argument in favor of illicit activity, but rather of self governance. |
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April 28, 2016, 11:39:18 AM |
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this is a list who shows broker where you can trade Bitcoin (CFDs) though. but I'll check them out since some of them could also be accepting |
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April 28, 2016, 12:27:32 PM |
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I don't like this broker. They are low trustable.... |
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April 28, 2016, 02:25:37 PM |
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this is a list who shows broker where you can trade Bitcoin (CFDs) though. but I'll check them out since some of them could also be accepting No, it's a list of brokers that take Bitcoin as a deposit option. Check the link, there's a lot of useful info there. (I suppose that means they also allow you to withdraw with Bitcoin, but I have not checked). |
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May 03, 2016, 09:34:30 AM |
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It is now nice to trade with some Bitcoin and that is because the value is not even rising and that is the solve that you can now make some profit with it and that would be nice for Bitcoin.
But you have to do it nice otherwise it wont be possible to make any profit.
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May 24, 2016, 07:31:51 AM |
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You cant now sell it with Bitcoin and that is because the value is not even that high and that have to change because the value have to rise soon so we can earn profit.
But now you see also that there are more people that is now trading to earn a little bit profit and that is nice.
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May 24, 2016, 10:35:19 AM |
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You cant now sell it with Bitcoin and that is because the value is not even that high and that have to change because the value have to rise soon so we can earn profit.
But now you see also that there are more people that is now trading to earn a little bit profit and that is nice.
yes just sell it and buy for cheaper one's every time there is a difference in the value that is enough to have gains on it trade it and keep your investment rolling to grow. |
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May 24, 2016, 01:16:57 PM |
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this is a list who shows broker where you can trade Bitcoin (CFDs) though. but I'll check them out since some of them could also be accepting No, it's a list of brokers that take Bitcoin as a deposit option. Check the link, there's a lot of useful info there. (I suppose that means they also allow you to withdraw with Bitcoin, but I have not checked). so I contacted Avatrade, a known broker which is on the list. they only offer a CFD, no BTC deposits/withdraws |
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