Telegram ICO (TON)

[_ATOmix_]

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/02/18/telegram-raised-850-million-ico/

If Telegram’s recent funding is an example, the concept of an ICO is no longer public. While the company raised $850m, their way of doing so raises a lot of questions. An initial coin offering is usually open to non-accredited and accredited investors alike. Everyone can contribute money and receive something in return for doing so.
Telegram initially decided to use the ICO model to develop their TON blockchain. Additionally, some funds will be used to maintain the popular messenger service itself. Given the global popularity of this messaging service, a lot of people hoped to invest in this company with the money they could spare.
Unfortunately, these plans can never be executed. The company targeted venture capital firms and accredited investors first and foremost. By offering discounts for Telegram’s Gram token, the pre-sale resulted in raising $850m. This is well beyond the initial $600m target projected by the company itself. However, it is this odd approach which leaves a lot of people confused.

I will not buy venture capital firms bags.

[edupc]

Another scam site.. be careful https://ico-telegram.me

[Bytem3]

Almost $1 Billion ICO seems just too much. I mean, how are they going to spend that money? No large ICO performed well until now, you can take a look at Filecoin and Tezos...

https://coincodex.com/article/1312/up-to-850-million-raised-in-telegram-ico-pre-sale/

[ziyush]

BITSUM have already integrated Crypto coin in telegram and people can easily send and receive coin on telegram app

BITSUM is the first telegram based cryptocurrency. if you want more details then visit  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2459792

[dchanevv]

Guys what is the real (official) site about this ico ?

[cryptoisdafuture]

So this is just a bunch of scammers calling themselves Telegram token, right? Seems to be no word from the actual Telegram that they are affiliated with it in any manner?

[deathwish]

Is this a legit Telegram ico? did they do a announcement yet in bitcointalk ? anybody can point me to it? I've already seen atleast 3 different news on this ICO.

[gingercoin]

Hi all!
Just found this https://ico-telegram.com/
I found it from youtube https://youtu.be/Iy9vxIDxa4o
What do you think?
I have bought some coins already 
It would be amasing if it is real telegram ico 

[HTHP]

@gingercoin This is a scam my friend. A BIG SCAAAAM !

[Skroojee]

Personally, I believe in this project. I think that this will be a new coin that will compete with leaders in the crypto currency market.

[gingercoin]

@gingercoin This is a scam my friend. A BIG SCAAAAM !

Maybe it is a scam, but what if it isn't?
I'm ready to lose 50-100$, if I can win thousends in case it isn't scam

[Melfoy72]

Hi all!
Just found this https://ico-telegram.com/
I found it from youtube https://youtu.be/Iy9vxIDxa4o
What do you think?
I have bought some coins already 
It would be amasing if it is real telegram ico 

Did you hear something about Pinocchio?
Just find and read it as soon as possible.
Telegrams owner told that all similar clubs are scam.

[helga22richter]

Has anybody found an official confirmation of this event?

[Melfoy72]

Has anybody found an official confirmation of this event?

Oh man, Durov already have got $300mln.
It's even more then any other huge ICO. Why you still want to have a prove?
It was like ICO... but between billionaires
It was only one token.... for 300mln. And Abramovich have got it before you.
 But don't worry.

[edupc]

Hi all!
Just found this https://ico-telegram.com/
I found it from youtube https://youtu.be/Iy9vxIDxa4o
What do you think?
I have bought some coins already 
It would be amasing if it is real telegram ico 

Lol.. please spend all you money in this page.. 

[FabVfr]

I would not be confident, and would also like to know the real ICO adress.

Quick search by whois request on the quoted site domain "ico-telegram.com":

 Domain Name: ICO-TELEGRAM.COM
   Registry Domain ID: 2216022079_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
   Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
   Updated Date: 2018-01-20T21:02:51Z
   Creation Date: 2018-01-20T20:48:25Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2019-01-20T20:48:25Z
   Registrar: NameCheap Inc.
   Registrar IANA ID: 1068
   Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
   Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
   Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
   Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
   Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
   DNSSEC: unsigned
   URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-02-19T13:14:33Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp


Telegram.org whois request by comparison

Domain Name: TELEGRAM.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D103450826-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2017-05-31T23:54:54Z
Creation Date: 2003-12-15T14:48:05Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-12-15T14:48:05Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: C136539947-LROR
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: TELEGRAM.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID: C136539948-LROR
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: TELEGRAM.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID: C136539950-LROR
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: TELEGRAM.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: NS-CLOUD-B1.GOOGLEDOMAINS.COM
Name Server: NS-CLOUD-B2.GOOGLEDOMAINS.COM
Name Server: NS-CLOUD-B3.GOOGLEDOMAINS.COM
Name Server: NS-CLOUD-B4.GOOGLEDOMAINS.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-02-19T13:16:29Z <<<

The domains don't match, I doubt Telegram would take a risk on hosting it's ICO on another domain, despite DDOS risks.
Also the registar name of "ico-telegram.com" @ namecheaphosting is not very encouraging, the URL is ".com" whereas telegram is ".org"
All this point to a badly driven scam try.
Best regards :-)

[phroekazoid]

For me it's hard to understand why Pavel Durov hasn't made yet an official statement on this.
One his tweet will boost the hype to the sky!

[MiKi.Mi]

Check this out:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M4aA-Dt6zpKu1csDEx4cMCxLU6dRmrUz/view

Telegram Open Network
Dr. Nikolai Durov
December 3, 2017

[Old God]

Is it an official site? why they are not here, on our forum then? looks strange a bit

[CryptoRama]

Is it an official site? why they are not here, on our forum then? looks strange a bit

Scam sites with different URL's are at large, also some sites that have info about ICO, says that official sites for ICO are not awailable/given out yet.??

Also till today what I saw about TON, I didn't got any clue for their original or truly their ICO site: TON/telegram,(one of many scam sites: https://ton.fund/) also didn't see any updates/announcments from devs, not that I was looking, but at this rate of getting info's about ICO's, announcments and other stuff should be eazy, I usually get more info if the thread/ICO that is on going, usualy there are some updates and info is everywhere and so on...

Since it's all weird and shady, I don't recommend you to just invest in TON, since finding real thing/info about TON if very difficult.
What I find other sites that you probably think are from telegram/TON, could be mostly a scam...
I cannot tell you if that site is official, since I don't know to what are you refering...

their official site: https://telegram.org/
I couldn't find their ICO site, and even this site: https://ico-telegram.com/   is weird for me, I mean, it could be all fiction/scam!!

I only got the info that pre-sale has got a lot of money(probably scam), and that in march the ICO ends, I wanted to work for TON, here with signature campaign, but their ICO is so awfully weird and I'am not trusting, I'll rather wait, and then maybe buy some TON... When I wanted to join signature campaign, on one page for telegram said, that TON/telegram ICO is upcoming, currently active and past...?? And I think at that time there was even a Bounty ICO, but now I cannot find it, or I was too much drunk that time? Dunno...

found this(not my opinion, just looking things from all angles):  https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2018/02/17/telegram-ico-scam-among-cryptocurrency-scams/#992e1721cf00

https://open-gram.org/
wow? another one? and this site I got from ann thread.

Also something that has been said on ANN thread:

Sorry to say, I am a little bit skeptical about this information. I can't find your TechCrunch link. It's missing or maybe you forgot to attach it.
Telegram is nonprofit organization. How come they will arrange an ICO? It will break their principal.

My conclusion is that those are probably scams...