Anacs undergoing a PROCEDURE CHANGE

[dazedfool]

So sounds like we're gonna have three "phases" of ANACS grades now! 

1) Pre 2015-ish when MS67 was considered primo grade
2) 2015-2017 when ANACS philosophy changed and MS69/70s started popping up
3) 2018+ with a wackadoodle TBD new label

Time to start peeeeeling, am i rite guys?

[nubbins]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I can't believe people broke their custody chains to send their Cas coins to these morons

Grading plastic poker chips? Seriously?

OLOLOLOLO

[Ticked]

ANACS hasnt exactly been.. how do I put it ... consistent with the grading. Personally I think we should petition other graders and then support them by using them.

ANACS have shot themselves in the foot here, the only way to make them pay is to stop giving them business

I think CGS in the UK accepts cryptos.
I’ve got a Cas Single that has been graded by them.
The only downside would be adjusting the disparity in grading results although that being said, ANACs themselves were pretty poor recently with the average scoring being so high (lower grades being bumped)...

Now if only PCGS was to grade our coins. I agree, when I saw they graded Satori chips...that was it for me.

Do you have a link? That is actually laughable.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the satori chips but they are chips... How can a coin grading service grade poker chips?

ANACS is a joke. I have never used them...never will.

Someone from here should open their own grading service. Seriously, he would be more capable than those clowns. At the same time we would also trust him with our BTC. There are a few good candidates but that is up to them to take the idea and run with it.

I don't often feel this way...but I agree with the Krog man.  I'd find much more validity in a grading service run by a crypto connoisseur, the candidates are out there. The legal hurdles...I have no idea. But I support this proposition. Thats it. Crowdfund the cryptograding ICO! 

   Trust me...with the knowledge and experience of certain collectors here I am positive they will do better in grading than any ANACS grader can. They grade as a company...the person from here will probably take it more seriously as an individual and do a far better job.

       

I fully agree.  And to Nubbins point, if graded within a community sprung grading circuit/company, the knowledgeable will be able to maintain a PGP chain of custody worthy of noting. This seems to be better than any current alternative.

::cough::   Phase 4? 

[iCEBREAKER]

I fully agree.  And to Nubbins point, if graded within a community sprung grading circuit/company, the knowledgeable will be able to maintain a PGP chain of custody worthy of noting. This seems to be better than any current alternative.

It seems like ANACS grades the holograms because they display them in front.

But yes, it would be awesome to make a decentralized grading service.  We can put holograms on the slabs to protect the inner ones!  Yo dawg, I herd u lik tamper-evident seals...

[BitcoinPenny]

Agreed. Someone with years of coin collecting/grading experience + crypto collectible experience should start a small company to fill this niche. I'd use the service.

Regards,
Chris

[owlcatz]

Ok after calling and emailing a few times, I finally got this vague, but not damning/end all sounding reply. Not embedding it cause I think it's too big.

https://i.imgur.com/aKORcnj.png

The parts I removed were about prior orders pending, nothing important.

Not going to sweat them for now, as this was the same guy who the front line phone people kept sending me to his voicemail all day as well.

The fact that we all get so many different answers is not helpful, so I guess I will follow up if you guys hear anymore. 

Please email customerservice@anacs.com and ask for us, if you care that is, which I know some do not... Fair enough. Thanks.

[Zyro]

Agreed. Someone with years of coin collecting/grading experience + crypto collectible experience should start a small company to fill this niche. I'd use the service.

Regards,
Chris

Makes me wish I was a expert coin grader.   Seems there is a decent sized hole needing filling right now.

[Ticked]

I fully agree.  And to Nubbins point, if graded within a community sprung grading circuit/company, the knowledgeable will be able to maintain a PGP chain of custody worthy of noting. This seems to be better than any current alternative.

It seems like ANACS grades the holograms because they display them in front.

But yes, it would be awesome to make a decentralized grading service.  We can put holograms on the slabs to protect the inner ones!  Yo dawg, I herd u lik tamper-evident seals...

Dammit, its almost like we have the designers (hologram my everything please), the critics, the professionals, the collectors, the enthusiasts, the reputed, the actual knowledge depth, the US/EU importers/exporters all here & active in the collectibles section.  I'd stand up and man this thing, but I am not an OG enough to warrant such a move.

Isn't there a famous table or two around these parts...  

I've never sent a thing into ANACS... There's a few members here who if started such a service, I would feel confident using.

Caveat: any coin/whatever maker shouldn't grade their own product.


EDIT: I always hated that they display the grade on the hologram side. like, wtf

EDIT 2:  Oh yeah, then there's the whole fact that the crypto equivalent of the red book spawned off this very board.  Okay, im sold, its just a matter of time before this all actually happens.

[Lesbian Cow]

EDIT: I always hated that they display the grade on the hologram side. like, wtf

Oh man, that bothers me more than it should but it is such a rookie error for them to slab the coin in that manner.

[dazedfool]

EDIT: I always hated that they display the grade on the hologram side. like, wtf

Oh man, that bothers me more than it should but it is such a rookie error for them to slab the coin in that manner.

They used to face them the otherway. I have a couple of old graded 1BTC coins that are obverse-forward

Switch I think happened when they started adding the address to the grade label. That way both numbers are on the same side

[BitcoinPenny]

Caveat: any coin/whatever maker shouldn't grade their own product.

Excellent, and very important, point. (Wait...all 2018 BP coins are MS71???)

Regards,
Chris

[iCEBREAKER]

Agreed. Someone with years of coin collecting/grading experience + crypto collectible experience should start a small company to fill this niche. I'd use the service.

Regards,
Chris

Makes me wish I was a expert coin grader.   Seems there is a decent sized hole needing filling right now.

Human-based grading is too subjective.  We must disrupt centralized coin grading services and replace them with permissionless Satoshi's Vision things.

Let's write a smart contract that takes 3d scans of coins and records data (including funding info) to the blockchain.  It can use ML to train itself on existing graded coins.

QR code holograms on the slab and done.

all 2018 BP coins are MS71

 

Photos and auction please!

[Fattcatt]

**Sigh**  looks like they have us by the short hairs.     I know it better be a damned fine grade, if I'm paying $59 per coin!!!
     I think they just think we are so friggin' wealthy, from the Cryptos, that we can afford their CHUMP service.

[wheelz1200]

$59 For a grading service which is shotty at best.  How many people here cracked old grades and re submitted when they started grading crypto favorably.  At $20 meh ok, but $60 nah I will keep my coins ungraded.  I know others disagree but $60 for a shot in the dark grade...on side note I do like the sealed cases they are in.  Only thing is that they right side the holo side and the front of the coin is sideways if the coin maker doesn't align the front and holo. 

[chronicsky]

ANACS hasnt exactly been.. how do I put it ... consistent with the grading. Personally I think we should petition other graders and then support them by using them.

ANACS have shot themselves in the foot here, the only way to make them pay is to stop giving them business

I think CGS in the UK accepts cryptos.
I’ve got a Cas Single that has been graded by them.
The only downside would be adjusting the disparity in grading results although that being said, ANACs themselves were pretty poor recently with the average scoring being so high (lower grades being bumped)...

Now if only PCGS was to grade our coins. I agree, when I saw they graded Satori chips...that was it for me.

Do you have a link? That is actually laughable.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the satori chips but they are chips... How can a coin grading service grade poker chips?

The fact that a piece of plastic got a better grade than many of the coins we send in says it all...... WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOURS COINS, SEND US MONEY!!!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222756583457

the only reason I am pissed off is that I was going to send you 4 rolls off my next delivery for grading for fun... $2K I can handle paying for a laugh.. $6000.00 ??  forget it

but what are we all going to do for grading now? maybe the UK will be the grading capital of the world.... reverse mantis express for everyone

wtf!

i just read this, this is insane!

what is the grading company in UK ? @TMAN

Hell i can start one grading company here, i even got one 1h drive away to me.
Do a project on them- learn and make my own but shipping to and from here sucks

**Sigh**  looks like they have us by the short hairs.     I know it better be a damned fine grade, if I'm paying $59 per coin!!!
     I think they just think we are so friggin' wealthy, from the Cryptos, that we can afford their CHUMP service.

it's not about being wealthy, the ANACS grading is shit anyways but charging so much for that, does that mean from now they will ship all the coins fully insured? will they take liability for any lost or tempered coin?

[ihsanskanzaone]

every company must always make changes or innovations in order to survive in a fierce competition. The 4 most respected rating agencies are PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG. This is a very tight competition every company will definitely change from time to time including ANACS. But all these companies are needed in the market and each has a certain role.

[ChiBitCTy]

every company must always make changes or innovations in order to survive the tight competition. The 4 most respected rating companies are PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG. This is a very tough competition every company will certainly change from time to time including ANACS. but all of them are needed in the market and each has a purpose.

It’s especially difficult for a company who refuses to listen to the exact market they cater to.  It’s the poor mans grading service, and if not for crypto I’d own none at all. ANACS reminds me of Ford pre-2008. They looked boxy and were cheap and they suffered until they changed.

[krogothmanhattan]

ANACS reminds me of Ford pre-2008. They looked boxy and were cheap and they suffered until they changed.

  LOL Chi!  That is so true. And that is why we need one of our own to do our own grading.

  Before I became a Crypto coin collector I also collected stamps for 30 years.

  In the stamp collecting hobby we also have to main stamp certification services in the USA. The Philatelic Foundation and The American Philaelic Society.

 Two very important certification services. However they were not the only ones. You also had many individual persons highly respected in the stamp community

 that specialized in certain countries or area of Philately. Believe it or not, the established two sought out their advice when it came to certifying stamps that fell within their expertise

  The same can apply to us! We need one of our own who is highly respected in this forum and has the knowledge to start grading our coins.

  I will not mention names, but I have reached out to one that I can think can be the bearer of this torch! And I am sure many in this community have the same person in mind.

  

[FFrankie]

ANACS reminds me of Ford pre-2008. They looked boxy and were cheap and they suffered until they changed.

  LOL Chi!  That is so true. And that is why we need one of our own to do our own grading.

  Before I became a Crypto coin collector I also collected stamps for 30 years.

  In the stamp collecting hobby we also have to main stamp certification services in the USA. The Philatelic Foundation and The American Philaelic Society.

 Two very important certification services. However they were not the only ones. You also had many individual persons highly respected in the stamp community

 that specialized in certain countries or area of Philately. Believe it or not, the established two sought out their advice when it came to certifying stamps that fell within their expertise

  The same can apply to us! We need one of our own who is highly respected in this forum and has the knowledge to start grading our coins.

  I will not mention names, but I have reached out to one that I can think can be the bearer of this torch! And I am sure many in this community have the same person in mind.

  

I think we might be blazing our minds out trying to figure out who that might be

[Blazed]

I have an order sitting at ANACS that has been in process for 48 days now. Not sure of any price changes, but the turn around times are slower and slower. ANACS needs to fix this...