【Avalon OEM Factory】made by ccbmc！50PCS OEM 110G 4# avalon mining Has shipped！

[Bitcoinorama]

I'm quite sure to have already seen that ID posted around here...

As above:

Aren't these old photos? That same ID card picture has been posted on this forum before about a month ago.

EDIT: These ARE the old photos mixed with a mid July screen capture. Nothing new here.

Same guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229795.msg2417635#msg2417635

[hak8or]

Well, just to clarify I contacted them through email and they told me that this prices above are WITHOUT chips, so I asked them the price with chips included as we can see in the photos they got them.

If you provide them the chips they need 10-12 days to complete the assenbly.

I asked them if they accept paypal and they told me that they accept alipay through taobao ( I asked them the taobao shop link)

They also told me that they can declare a low value in order to get a low fee at the customs.

This is just for information purpose, you decide what you do with your money or chips

Can you show proof somehow of this response you got? Not really doubting you, but just want to make sure.

Also, I really dislike how such a large amount of mining shops require you to send them the chips. While yes, it does make more sense for the shop, it causes the consumer to fumble around a lot, increases unnecessary delay (get chips, send chips, wait for shipping, miner gets assembled, miner sent, wait for shipping), and these shops can obviously get the asic's for much cheaper than us due to being able to buy in bulk. Also, why on earth is AsicMiner not selling their raw asic's?

[CoinHoarder]

Why are you guys even talking about this?

These would be incredibly over priced even if they included all the Avalon chips (which they don't).

I dunno why anyone would buy one, perhaps I'm converting my currencies wrong??

EDIT: On the second look, it looks like only their hardware that comes with ASIC chips is expensive:

The spot avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 68888
August 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 42888
September 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 28888

Their price without chips is reasonable I guess.

[Visesrion]

Well, just to clarify I contacted them through email and they told me that this prices above are WITHOUT chips, so I asked them the price with chips included as we can see in the photos they got them.

If you provide them the chips they need 10-12 days to complete the assenbly.

I asked them if they accept paypal and they told me that they accept alipay through taobao ( I asked them the taobao shop link)

They also told me that they can declare a low value in order to get a low fee at the customs.

This is just for information purpose, you decide what you do with your money or chips

Can you show proof somehow of this response you got? Not really doubting you, but just want to make sure.

Also, I really dislike how such a large amount of mining shops require you to send them the chips. While yes, it does make more sense for the shop, it causes the consumer to fumble around a lot, increases unnecessary delay (get chips, send chips, wait for shipping, miner gets assembled, miner sent, wait for shipping), and these shops can obviously get the asic's for much cheaper than us due to being able to buy in bulk. Also, why on earth is AsicMiner not selling their raw asic's?

I send you a pm with a photo 

[AdamKD]

Why are you guys even talking about this?

These would be incredibly over priced even if they included all the Avalon chips (which they don't).

I dunno why anyone would buy one, perhaps I'm converting my currencies wrong??

EDIT: On the second look, it looks like only their hardware that comes with ASIC chips is expensive:

The spot avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 68888
August 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 42888
September 30 presale avalon 4 # 110G ¥ 28888

Their price without chips is reasonable I guess.

If you're confident with bitcoin value increasing these will make ROI.  Otherwise, these won't make ROI.  You're better off buying coins then, though, imho.

Spet 30 - 4,719.11 US Dollar
Aug 30 - 7,006.14 US Dollar
On Spot - 11,253.47 US Dollar

For 11,253.47 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 4,700 loss.  The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 11,253.47 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll be taking a 1,100 loss.  The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.

For 7,006.14 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 1,600 loss.  The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 7,006.14 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll make ROI.  This is extremely optimistic and *may* happen but probably won't.

For 4,719.11 if the weekly difficulty increase is at least 10% you'll be taking a 1,100 loss.  The only way you'll make ROI is if bitcoin value increases.
For 4,719.11 if the weekly difficulty increases by 50 TH/s per week you'll make ROI.  This is extremely optimistic and probably won't happen.

Translation:  You're better off buying bitcoins than mining hardware.  I don't understand why someone would say this is reasonable.  I guess if people are accustomed to giving away their money for free then yea - this is reasonable.

[trichome]

throw this scam thread out, old photos.

[pikeadz]

throw this scam thread out, old photos.

he is deleting the posts that accuse him of scamming lol

[ccbmc]

Lovely hardware you have there.

When did you order chips from BitSyncom/Avalon?

My client ordered chips from avalon official by April 16 to 20！

[ccbmc]

Is another run of this being done that we might be able to order from ?

Of cause you can order!

[ccbmc]

Really nice pictures you got there, though that pick and place you use looks ancient, hah.

Anyways, so from what I understand, lets say I want to order this:
2,2 # whole 44-54G (unplugged machine can dig), ¥ 7788.00
Original 3MM aluminum chassis + Seasonic X850 gold supply

That means I get a machine which hashes between 44 and 54 Ghash/s, including the chassis and a 850 Watt power supply, for ¥ 7788.00, or about 1,300 USD?
Are the machines already assembled and ready to ship out, or do you still have to assemble them and fab the boards and whatnot? How long will it take for you to ship it out if for example I were to order it right now?

How much is shipping, and how quick is it? To the USA for example.

And how do you deal with customs? How much would customs cost, $100?

Transportation is not a problem! This price does not include the Avalon chips

[ccbmc]

Compared with hashfast ,knc etc...,Is it worth buying ? Without a decent ROI ,the customers(except some silly) are not willing to pay even you guys have the spot rigs. Now difficulty increases almost 75% or more every month .

You're right, but you should understand that the spot and futures completely different!
KNC is not the next butterfly, nobody knows!

[ccbmc]

Does this mean someone outside of Zefir has received chips?

You're right, so far we have received four orders, namely 40,000 chips!

[ccbmc]

Aren't these old photos? That same ID card picture has been posted on this forum before about a month ago.

EDIT: These ARE the old photos mixed with a mid July screen capture. Nothing new here.

You understand what is continually updated? Our team has been updated with the latest photos!

[ccbmc]

Well, just to clarify I contacted them through email and they told me that this prices above are WITHOUT chips, so I asked them the price with chips included as we can see in the photos they got them.

If you provide them the chips they need 10-12 days to complete the assenbly.

I asked them if they accept paypal and they told me that they accept alipay through taobao ( I asked them the taobao shop link)

They also told me that they can declare a low value in order to get a low fee at the customs.

This is just for information purpose, you decide what you do with your money or chips

that`s right!
my taobao shop link：http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.278.PjhMFn&id=26797220131

[ccbmc]

11,000 for a 4 modules

ro0o0o0o0o0ofl

Plus Yifu already warned us of others in China attempting to profit off of the project


truly foolish option to pay this any mind

￥11288！ this price is not include the avalon chips！

[Bitcoinorama]

Aren't these old photos? That same ID card picture has been posted on this forum before about a month ago.

EDIT: These ARE the old photos mixed with a mid July screen capture. Nothing new here.

You understand what is continually updated? Our team has been updated with the latest photos!

Yes, but the ID pic is old along with the bulk chip pics and some of the assembly. It's not your fault, but someone on another thread claimed that you are stating your chips had only just arrived. Which isn't the case. They arrived some weeks back now.

[ccbmc]

I'm quite sure to have already seen that ID posted around here...

You are right!
Before, we only post to someone who understand Chinese!
Now and in the future, we post to everyone who understand English!

[ccbmc]

Aren't these old photos? That same ID card picture has been posted on this forum before about a month ago.

EDIT: These ARE the old photos mixed with a mid July screen capture. Nothing new here.

You understand what is continually updated? Our team has been updated with the latest photos!

Yes, but the ID pic is old along with the bulk chip pics and some of the assembly. It's not your fault, but someone on another thread claimed that you are stating your chips had only just arrived. Which isn't the case. They arrived some weeks back now.

If you want, I can always provide a lot of pictures!
In early July we pre-sold 50 units 730 4 # avalon mining machine!
Yesterday just completed delivery!
We own factories, accepted avalon chips processing business from around the world!
These photos are shot using a mobile phone, more ugly, so do not want to post！

[cryptograd]

11,000 for a 4 modules

ro0o0o0o0o0ofl

Plus Yifu already warned us of others in China attempting to profit off of the project


truly foolish option to pay this any mind

￥11288！ this price is not include the avalon chips！

You are never going to sell even one unit at that price. I recommend you cut your prices by 65%

[driksson]

price in btc for 4 module? local delivery shanghai?.