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August 11, 2013, 01:39:34 PM |
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Can the asic miners mine scrypt currencies ?
i mean supposed the there is a new software version for enabling them to mine SCRYPT currencies (which is a lot) ?
and if yes then at what performance?
my question is mainly about the usb miners but it would be good to have an overall idea
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August 11, 2013, 01:42:18 PM |
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as of right now as far as i know its not possible
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August 11, 2013, 02:19:04 PM |
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August 11, 2013, 02:26:05 PM |
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If asic supports searching from memory , then it should be. Currently only general beling like CPU, GPU does the thing.
ASIC is not GOD. It is a form of idea.
if specfic being available, then the performance I guess, 25%-40% of what bitcoin acceralator does.
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August 11, 2013, 04:35:42 PM |
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Wow, you're only the tenth person to ask, and the answer is still no.
They're a chip designed to do one thing, and one thing only. That's mine Bitcoins (or other pointless SHA256 altcoins).
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August 11, 2013, 05:55:22 PM |
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and i was thinking u just signed up on the forum .... how can u ask that with activity 185 ? LOL
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August 11, 2013, 09:12:57 PM |
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and i was thinking u just signed up on the forum .... how can u ask that with activity 185 ? LOL
All TX and no RX, probably. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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August 13, 2013, 12:33:55 PM |
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Of course You can. It will do it if You are doing following movements in parallel: -right hand on top of the head with repeated vertical movement -left hand circular movements around belly -eye balls moving as fast as possible (faster movement -> faster hash rate) in a way of forming layed down number 8 representing infinity of scrypt mining
Sorry,... i couldn't resist...
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DobZombie
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August 13, 2013, 02:25:09 PM |
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I love it when people keep asking this question, and they just get a shitload of "no"
But no one pipes up and explains when (from a technical standpoint)
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August 13, 2013, 02:28:29 PM |
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I love it when people keep asking this question, and they just get a shitload of "no"
But no one pipes up and explains when (from a technical standpoint)
Well if they can't decipher that a SHA256 ASIC device cannot solve a Scrypt algorithm... what can you really say besides "no" ?
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August 13, 2013, 02:34:43 PM |
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They could, but it would take thousands of custom designed controllers to turn them into shift registers, and thousands of ASICs just to do the job of a typical CPU. I doubt anyone would ever try.
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August 13, 2013, 02:47:54 PM |
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I love it when people keep asking this question, and they just get a shitload of "no"
But no one pipes up and explains when (from a technical standpoint)
Well if they can't decipher that a SHA256 ASIC device cannot solve a Scrypt algorithm... what can you really say besides "no" ? Most people who would ask this question wouldn't know the difference between sha256 or scrypt. So go on then, be useful and explain the difference to the noob. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 13, 2013, 03:01:49 PM |
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I love it when people keep asking this question, and they just get a shitload of "no"
But no one pipes up and explains when (from a technical standpoint)
Well if they can't decipher that a SHA256 ASIC device cannot solve a Scrypt algorithm... what can you really say besides "no" ? Most people who would ask this question wouldn't know the difference between sha256 or scrypt. So go on then, be useful and explain the difference to the noob. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The difference in the algorithms is meaningless. The definition of ASIC is important. You can't use an Spanish to English dictionary to communicate efficiently in Japanese.
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DobZombie
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August 13, 2013, 03:05:33 PM |
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I love it when people keep asking this question, and they just get a shitload of "no"
But no one pipes up and explains when (from a technical standpoint)
Well if they can't decipher that a SHA256 ASIC device cannot solve a Scrypt algorithm... what can you really say besides "no" ? Most people who would ask this question wouldn't know the difference between sha256 or scrypt. So go on then, be useful and explain the difference to the noob. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The difference in the algorithms is meaningless. The definition of ASIC is important. You can't use an Spanish to English dictionary to communicate efficiently in Japanese. That's a terrible analogy lol! And the algorithm is important. Otherwise these guys will leave here thinking bitcoin ASICs can't mine terracoins...
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August 13, 2013, 03:07:50 PM |
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That's a terrible analogy lol!
And the algorithm is important. Otherwise these guys will leave here thinking bitcoin ASICs can't mine terracoins...
Algorithm is important, the difference between the two is not... just know that SHA256 ASICs can mine SHA256 coins. If someone ever develops a Scrypt ASIC then it can mine Scrypt coins... I admittedly suck at analogies ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 13, 2013, 03:21:42 PM |
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I was being harsh, the analogy wasn't that bad ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 16, 2013, 02:58:06 AM |
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So, I think what the OP meant to ask was:
"When is the answer to 'Can the asic miners mine scrypt currencies?' gonna be 'yes' instead of 'no'?"
I would say pretty soon...if I was drunk
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August 16, 2013, 03:23:09 AM Last edit: August 16, 2013, 03:53:18 AM by DeathAndTaxes |
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So, I think what the OP meant to ask was:
"When is the answer to 'Can the asic miners mine scrypt currencies?' gonna be 'yes' instead of 'no'?"
I would say pretty soon...if I was drunk
Well that is the confusing thing about questions like this. When will current SHA-256 ASICs be able to mine scrypt currencies? Never. When will someone develop an ASIC that implements scrypt* hashing? When it becomes profitable to do so. * By scrypt I mean the watered down memory lite (only uses 128KB) version used by LTC and clones. The actual memory hard version as designed by the author will probably never be ASIC accelerated.
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August 16, 2013, 03:48:53 AM |
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So, I think what the OP meant to ask was:
"When is the answer to 'Can the asic miners mine scrypt currencies?' gonna be 'yes' instead of 'no'?"
I would say pretty soon...if I was drunk
Well that is the confusing thing about questions like this. When will current SHA-256 ASICs be able to mine scrypt currencies? Never. When will someone develop an ASIC that implements scrypt* hashing? When it becomes profitable to do so. By scrypt I mean the watered down memory lite (only uses 128KB) version used by LTC and clones. The actual memory hard version as designed by the author will probably never be ASIC accelerated. LTC kinda uses 1.6GB of my VRAM ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Of course, this is at 24000 thread concurrency. Unless someone can design a Scrypt ASIC that works wonders at 1 TC, RAM needed will increase tremendously.
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August 16, 2013, 03:52:22 AM |
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Can the asic miners mine scrypt currencies ? No. The current crop of machines referred to as ASICs around here are built for SHA256 hashes. ASIC simply means "application-specific integrated circuit", it is not specific to bitcoin, or to SHA256 or scrypt or anything. It is a generalized term for hardware that performs specific tasks. i mean supposed the there is a new software version for enabling them to mine SCRYPT currencies (which is a lot) ? ASICs are a piece of hardware, written in silicon. There can not be new software versions. New designs must be created and new machines must be built for scrypt, or any purpose. and if yes then at what performance? This would require a lot of engineering time to figure out. It also depends on how good those engineers are. Scrypt is a very complex algorithm that attempts to punish you by requiring more memory the faster you go. It is called a time memory tradeoff. In contrast, SHA256 is rather simple: faster is better.
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