A working cryto debit card?

[crazyivan]

Just got my advcash. Took 9 days, sent on the 10th of jan using their free shipping option. Is a mastercard, issued in gibraltar.

Will use in a couple of days, you're supposed to load it with bitcoin. Can't keep bitcoin on advcash wallet and load it at a later time, they don't have a btc wallet there, only usd, gbp, brl, eur.

Interesting. So Wave Crest is still operating as usual but now offering MasterCard instead? I remember Visa killed their partnership with Wave Crest earlier this month. If you got this MasterCard from Gibraltar and the issuer is Wave Crest, then it looks like there is still hope out there.

What I liked about Wave Crest's cards was the tri-currency feature and the high spend limits. Their fees were very reasonable, especially if you compare it to other cards (WageCan, to name one).

Online bin checker doesn't say wavecrest specifically, but seems like it.

531169      GIBRALTAR MASTERCARD DEBIT PREPAID

Paid like 15$, got 5 credited to account. Sure beats that other mastercard with a 230$ issue fee lol

Waiting for the xmlgold.eu card to get here also. Supposedly it's a visa that still works. Will see when it comes and post, maybe compare the two , fee loading wise.

If you ordered XML.Gold.eu, can you please ask them who issues their cards? Due to mentioned reasons with Wavecrest and VISA, I d like to differentiate. If Wavecrest provides Mastercard, it would be smart to get VISA from Wirecard issuer. I think Mistertango provides their card but due to my personal issues with their support, I d like a more reliable provider.

Simply cant believe these large card companies are so slow and have been so unprepared and relied to only 1 provider. I see some Asian providers have started listing dates for card deliver, last week of February.

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[warningsigns]

There is this Singapore-based project with links to Estonia’s e-Residency system. They have ambitious goals and aim to be the most exciting banking application in the world which would be really nice if they could truly pull it off. Achieving that milestone would mean ending our dependence on traditional banks and ending too the uncertainties they create for the crypto community.

https://getchange.com/

I’m already an Estonian e-Resident so this would be a nice addition to my portfolio of accounts.

I’m posting this here because I believe they will introduce a card soon. I’m not sure if they are still negotiating with a card issuer but they seem to be making progress. Singapore’s progressive environment is a good place for these projects. The government is very pro-fintech and technology focused. Let’s hope lasting solutions will come out of this super exciting project.

[bitbunnny]

There is this Singapore-based project with links to Estonia’s e-Residency system. They have ambitious goals and aim to be the most exciting banking application in the world which would be really nice if they could truly pull it off. Achieving that milestone would mean ending our dependence on traditional banks and ending too the uncertainties they create for the crypto community.

https://getchange.com/

I’m already an Estonian e-Resident so this would be a nice addition to my portfolio of accounts.

I’m posting this here because I believe they will introduce a card soon. I’m not sure if they are still negotiating with a card issuer but they seem to be making progress. Singapore’s progressive environment is a good place for these projects. The government is very pro-fintech and technology focused. Let’s hope lasting solutions will come out of this super exciting project.

This would be good, if they introduce a card soon.
After Visa and Wave Crest broken partnership issue there is a pretty big open space on a bitcoin debit card market and lack of such services. Ideal for new providers to find their niche and good opportunity to make the profit and benefit for the users too.

[crazyivan]

Any more alternatives? I just received a list of companies Wirecard works with, directly from them, no Mister Tango on the list.

[maeusi]

There is this Singapore-based project with links to Estonia’s e-Residency system. They have ambitious goals and aim to be the most exciting banking application in the world which would be really nice if they could truly pull it off. Achieving that milestone would mean ending our dependence on traditional banks and ending too the uncertainties they create for the crypto community.

https://getchange.com/

I’m already an Estonian e-Resident so this would be a nice addition to my portfolio of accounts.

I’m posting this here because I believe they will introduce a card soon. I’m not sure if they are still negotiating with a card issuer but they seem to be making progress. Singapore’s progressive environment is a good place for these projects. The government is very pro-fintech and technology focused. Let’s hope lasting solutions will come out of this super exciting project.

Many thanks for sharing. This would really a milestone to get independent from traditional financial institutes. How long took it to get Estonian E-resident? And it is only for business, right?

[warningsigns]

Many thanks for sharing. This would really a milestone to get independent from traditional financial institutes. How long took it to get Estonian E-resident? And it is only for business, right?

Hey.. I applied on 12 November and got the approval email from the Estonian Police and Border Guard on the 27th of the same month. They then shipped the card, codes and USB accessory to the Estonian Embassy in Tokyo which I collected when I visited Japan two weeks ago. The process was a very smooth and easy one.

You can use e-Residency to open and operate an EU-based company, registered in Estonia, and to open bank accounts with Estonian banks. All done online.

As for Change, I really can't wait to use their wallet and card. They are a partner of the e-Residency initiative so that too is an exciting aspect of this entire Change project. I hope it really changes the crypto landscape for the better.

[rollerdyke44]

serious question, is it really worth having a physical card for purchases considering the high btc fees atm?

[crazyivan]

serious question, is it really worth having a physical card for purchases considering the high btc fees atm?

Well, I expect Tenx to start shipping somewhere close to end of Q1 again. If they do, their cards can be funded using Etherum as well. Problems should be solved withing a few weeks.

[crazyivan]

It seems Advcash has just closed down their cards program due to the same issue with Wavecrest.

I guess we have no more working crypto cards ATM.

[crazyivan]

Anyone? Anywhere?

No way to actually cash out crypto besides Local Bitcoin and/or banks?

[NeuroticFish]

It seems Advcash has just closed down their cards program due to the same issue with Wavecrest.

I guess we have no more working crypto cards ATM.

AdvCash has closed the loading of the cards and the existing cards will still be working until February 27.
Wavecrest is clearly doing something wrong...

Well, I expect Tenx to start shipping somewhere close to end of Q1 again. If they do, their cards can be funded using Etherum as well. Problems should be solved withing a few weeks.

It may worth mentioning that TenX preordering is closed for now. I posted yesterday in their threads the message I've got, but nobody cared much of it, I guess most have already preordered and I am the only one late...

[crazyivan]

Cant believe such a HUGE market s being uncovered for such a long time. What a market niche this is.

[fuckfbi]

Cant believe such a HUGE market s being uncovered for such a long time. What a market niche this is.

Because there are no others. There are no plan B. I dont know why every one of them states that.
Even if there were, this plan would already be screwed over by VISA, since its against their policies with the deal between MC/VISA.

All this shit started 3-4 years ago, when NETELLER and Skrill was starting to support crypto.

People started using it to withdraw for a month or two
Then Skrill/Neteller informed everyone that you could only use deposited crypto to send to other stores, and not withdraw from cards (that was easy to bypass though)


But why did skrill and neteller make this rule? Obviously their Net+ mastercard was informed to stop supporting crypto. Nothing else. So when people say this is not an attack on crypto, i dont know what else it is? The let skrill/neteller keep their cards.
After 3-6 months, they shut down the possibility to deposit BTC again. Someone has told them to do this. This someone was probably VISA, who already then threatned them.

And you all know what the rest of the story... First VISA shut down everything... Then mastercard was restricted to only SEPA......then short time after, shut down worldwide.

Someone out there does not like Mastercard or VISA to support crypto. Someone with alot power.

[bitbunnny]

It seems Advcash has just closed down their cards program due to the same issue with Wavecrest.

I guess we have no more working crypto cards ATM.

I don't like that situation at all. Something has gone terribly wrong. Still I don't believ this is a special war against crypto.
What about Mistertango, are they still operating? It's MasterCard. I have ordered it and waiting to arrive. Hope it wasn't for nothing.

[bitbunnny]

Cant believe such a HUGE market s being uncovered for such a long time. What a market niche this is.

I couldn't agree more. Such profitable market, and market of the future I would say, and that nobody hasn't developed some back up strategy and reserve options, hard to beleive.
And I still beleive those bitcoin debit card services had some information before all this issues with Visa and Wave Crest have happened. They must have known something.

[fuckfbi]

It seems Advcash has just closed down their cards program due to the same issue with Wavecrest.

I guess we have no more working crypto cards ATM.

I don't like that situation at all. Something has gone terribly wrong. Still I don't believ this is a special war against crypto.
What about Mistertango, are they still operating? It's MasterCard. I have ordered it and waiting to arrive. Hope it wasn't for nothing.

You need to change your mind.

I have just heard that employees of some of the biggest bank in EU has been denied to every trade BTC or crypto again, after 28th of feb.

[crazyivan]

I dont believe it s general anti crypto policy. I do believe banks will do everything they can to sabotage crypto cause their position of power has been challenged.

Yet, there will always be a way. For example Revolut has just received a banking licence so they do not need to rely on banks anymore. The same will happen with Tenx in a few months. After that, FUCK BANKS. One cannot stop innovations.

[fuckfbi]

I dont believe it s general anti crypto policy. I do believe banks will do everything they can to sabotage crypto cause their position of power has been challenged.

Yet, there will always be a way. For example Revolut has just received a banking licence so they do not need to rely on banks anymore. The same will happen with Tenx in a few months. After that, FUCK BANKS. One cannot stop innovations.

This is one of many banks around the globe.




Nordea, the Nordic region’s biggest bank, said Monday it would bar employees from trading in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as of February 28 due to the unregulated nature of the market.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/largest-nordic-bank-nordea-bans-employees-bitcoin-trade/

[crazyivan]

I dont believe it s general anti crypto policy. I do believe banks will do everything they can to sabotage crypto cause their position of power has been challenged.

Yet, there will always be a way. For example Revolut has just received a banking licence so they do not need to rely on banks anymore. The same will happen with Tenx in a few months. After that, FUCK BANKS. One cannot stop innovations.

This is one of many banks around the globe.




Nordea, the Nordic region’s biggest bank, said Monday it would bar employees from trading in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as of February 28 due to the unregulated nature of the market.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/largest-nordic-bank-nordea-bans-employees-bitcoin-trade/

As I say, as long there is one or two or five banks willing to work with crypto, the rest can suck dick.
These old industries will always try to stop the way things re currently being done. I am not worried about that at all. However, I would like to know what card can I use till late March when all these big ones will start shipping again.

[chuckblocker]

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