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December 26, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
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Hello,

I need to speak with one of the moderators of this website. If you want to protect your users then you're going to need to provide information on the user "Kumala". He runs CryptoStocks and Vircurex, both corrupt exchanges that have stolen millions of dollars worth of crypto currency from your users.

We are not asking for private information, only the contact email for this individual so he can be served court papers. If you do not cooperate then my hired law firm will file for subpoena and you will be forced to provide much more information than just an email address (as well as potentially appear in court for withholding information on a fugitive). The crypto currency world is no longer a boys club where you can operate as you wish, there are rules and regulations you'll be forced to follow like the rest of us.

Please reply via direct message in the next 24 hours, I would prefer to handle this without getting attorneys involved but I'm more than prepared to take the necessary steps if my hand is forced.

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December 26, 2017, 09:13:11 PM
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Bitcointalk has nothing to do with it though. Find yourself something else to do than threatening us here. Look how crazy what you are asking for, if the forum gives the email of that user out then what protection can the users get when an anonymous kid like you can simply order the admin?  Go heehoo in the barn.

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December 27, 2017, 05:24:07 AM
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If you actually hired a law firm who told you making this post was a good idea, you should hire a second law firm to sue the first for malpractice and get your money back. Roll Eyes Where to even begin?

I need to speak with one of the moderators of this website.
No, you need to speak with one the administrators of this website. The moderators aren't legally responsible for the forum and don't even have the information you're asking for anyway.

If you want to protect your users then you're going to need to provide information on the user "Kumala".
Fortunately for you, this threat is almost certainly too vague to be actionable, but for future reference you should be aware that threatening people into giving you something they don't want to give is called "extortion", which is a criminal offense.

He runs CryptoStocks and Vircurex, both corrupt exchanges that have stolen millions of dollars worth of crypto currency from your users.
Allegedly.

We are not asking for private information, only the contact email for this individual so he can be served court papers.
If their email address is not public, then by definition it is "private information". Also, has service via email ever actually been done successfully? To my knowledge, every time it's been suggested, it's been shot down on the basis that spam filters make it impossible to guarantee delivery.

If you do not cooperate then my hired law firm will file for subpoena and you will be forced to provide much more information than just an email address (as well as potentially appear in court for withholding information on a fugitive).
You're an idiot who doesn't know what words mean. A "subpoena" is not some scary weapon you can use as a vague threat. It's a standard court order which is a typical means of obtaining evidence, and as I recall the forum has complied with several subpoenas over the years. It's also both an empty threat and plainly stupid to suggest that legal action can be taken against someone for refusing to provide private information without a subpoena, when the opposite is the case: providing private information without a valid court order is a breach of privacy that the forum can be held liable for. Incidentally, for someone to be considered a "fugitive", they have to already be charged with a crime and have an outstanding arrest warrant, in which case it's a matter for the police, who BTW are smart enough to get a subpoena before asking for private information about the person whom they're investigating.

I would prefer to handle this without getting attorneys involved
You said you already hired a law firm. What are you paying them for, if their attorneys haven't gotten involved? Most likely, you haven't hired anyone, and think you can get your way just by making vague threats and spouting phrases you heard on Law & Order. Is that what this is?

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December 27, 2017, 07:00:38 AM
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Bitcointalk has nothing to do with it though. Find yourself something else to do than threatening us here. Look how crazy what you are asking for, if the forum gives the email of that user out then what protection can the users get when an anonymous kid like you can simply order the admin?  Go heehoo in the barn.

I've lost count of how many times people have threatened the forum with legal action if they don't willingly cough up the required info immediately. It's usually just a hollow threat in the hope that we will acquiesce under the threat of legal action but theymos will only ever release the info with a valid court order anyway so do what you have to do. Most of the time I think they will have no such intention of getting lawyers/courts involved either but hope the threat of legal action will just work instead. It won't.

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December 27, 2017, 07:19:17 AM
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Hello,

I need to speak with one of the moderators of this website. If you want to protect your users then you're going to need to provide information on the user "Kumala". He runs CryptoStocks and Vircurex, both corrupt exchanges that have stolen millions of dollars worth of crypto currency from your users.

We are not asking for private information, only the contact email for this individual so he can be served court papers. If you do not cooperate then my hired law firm will file for subpoena and you will be forced to provide much more information than just an email address (as well as potentially appear in court for withholding information on a fugitive). The crypto currency world is no longer a boys club where you can operate as you wish, there are rules and regulations you'll be forced to follow like the rest of us.

Please reply via direct message in the next 24 hours, I would prefer to handle this without getting attorneys involved but I'm more than prepared to take the necessary steps if my hand is forced.

Regards,

Wow.  What an exquisitely disgusting combination of threats and insults.  After that, I don’t care how you were allegedly scammed; if I were administrator of this forum, I would now permaban you and never give you any information, ever.

You also insult the intelligence of the reader.  I’ve never even heard of a jurisdiction where service of original process could be effectuated via e-mail.  Moreover, you are conflating the idea of a civil lawsuit filed and served by you, with some nonsensical insinuation about criminal matters (“withholding information on a fugitive”).  Do you think we’re stupid?  What kind of scam are you trying to pull?

For those who did not check post history, I also note that you already posted the same garbage 53 minutes, 12 seconds before:

Hello,

I need to speak with one of the moderators of this website. If you want to protect your users then you're going to need to provide information on the user "Kumala". He runs CryptoStocks and Vircurex, both corrupt exchanges that have stolen millions of dollars worth of crypto currency from your users.

We are not asking for private information, only the contact email for this individual so he can be served court papers. If you do not cooperate then my hired law firm will file for subpoena and you will be forced to provide much more information than just an email address (as well as potentially appear in court for withholding information on a fugitive). The crypto currency world is no longer a boys club where you can operate as you wish, there are rules and regulations you'll be forced to follow like the rest of us.

Please reply via direct message in the next 24 hours, I would prefer to handle this without getting attorneys involved but I'm more than prepared to take the necessary steps if my hand is forced.

Regards,



...as to which you already received adequate reply:

I need to speak with one of the moderators of this website. If you want to protect your users then you're going to need to provide information on the user "Kumala".

Why are you threatening the users of this forum?   Huh

Now if you don’t like the “boys club [sic]” as you call it, I suggest that you put on your big-man pants and go have teatime, or whatever you imagine big men do.

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December 28, 2017, 11:00:01 PM
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Wow, talk about immature threats. The name calling, etc. just goes to show what a circus this forum actually is.

Lucky for you I found the information I've been looking for and no longer need this forum. There are hundreds of victims from this scammer on your website, you'd think you'd want to do something about that for your users rather than sit there and name call.

Once my case is filed we'll see how tough all of you really are just hiding behind your keyboards. Word of advice, move out of your mom's basement and find something better to do with your time than harass someone trying to find a way to recover funds from a criminal for hundreds of people. If I had to guess by your responses you all probably know exactly who this person actually is.

I believe you'll have a mass exodus of users on your hands very shortly, have a great new year... I know I will  Cool
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December 28, 2017, 11:06:27 PM
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Once my case is filed we'll see how tough all of you really are just hiding behind your keyboards.

You are called a "keyboard warrior".

You will do nothing.  Happy new year! 

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December 28, 2017, 11:11:31 PM
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Once my case is filed we'll see how tough all of you really are just hiding behind your keyboards.

You are called a "keyboard warrior".

You will do nothing.  Happy new year! 

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I'm going to get a kick out of revisiting this thread in a couple months, really crossing my fingers that you're all somehow involved or associates of Kumala's.
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December 29, 2017, 01:40:33 AM
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Wow, talk about immature threats.
The only one making threats here is you.

The name calling, etc.
...is legally protected. Free speech, man.

Lucky for you I found the information I've been looking for and no longer need this forum.
Why, exactly, is that lucky for us? What terrible misfortune would befall us if you didn't find the information? You don't have to answer; as I said before, it's better for you if you keep your threats vague.

Once my case is filed we'll see how tough all of you really are just hiding behind your keyboards.
Again with the vague threats.

If I had to guess by your responses you all probably know exactly who this person actually is.
What if you have to do more than "guess" to meet the burden of proof in your case? Where does that leave you?

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December 29, 2017, 01:51:09 AM
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Please actually follow through with what you're saying. It'd be good to have something interesting happen here for once.
You seem like a fucking idiot though, so I won't get my hopes up.
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January 14, 2018, 05:58:11 PM
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Looks like he did:

For anyone not aware, this is the first US class action related to vircurex that I've seen papers for:

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Shaw-Vircurex-COMPLAINT.pdf

The lead lawyer has experience:

https://www.zlk.com/attorneys/donald-j-enright

And my 199 LTC remain pristinely frozen. I bought in 2013, before every available exchange fell over.
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