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January 13, 2011, 01:58:39 AM
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It seems to me we should try to focus on promoting bitcoin to teenagers.

First, young people are more open-minded than old established people.  They also don't have any savings so they are not personnaly invested in any national currency.

Second, young people are the future of the world.  Success of bitcoin will depend on them.

Finally, teenagers like video games.  Thus they own graphic cards, and I'm sure they'd be happy to use them to mine if we can convince them that they will be able to buy video games with the bitcoins they will produce.  Whether we show them the plateform exchanges, or we provide them a bitcoin video game shop (we should work on that).  I guess there is also amazon gateway that could allow them to buy video games with bitcoins.

I don't know any young people, nor do I contribute to any video-game forum/website.  But if you do, please spread the message that bitcoin exists and might be a way for them to buy video games easily.
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January 13, 2011, 03:12:07 AM
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Hey! You know me. I am 15 years old(16 this Saturday Cheesy) and had been promoting Bitcoin to my buddies.(Already signed up like 7 guys) I also contribute with a 5870. Cool

BTW, if we could get a good comedy animated movie of Bitcoins it would be great! Cheesy

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January 13, 2011, 03:15:38 AM
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Hey! You know me. I am 15 years old(16 this Saturday Cheesy) and had been promoting Bitcoin to my buddies.(Already signed up like 7 guys) I also contribute with a 5870. Cool

Good.  I hope your friends generate with their graphic card as you do.
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January 13, 2011, 03:38:25 AM
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Well, most of my friends are console newby gamers. xD Here in Mexico there aren't much Computer Gamers and few even know how to build their rig. Some even don't have CUDA or OpenCL capable GPUs so afaik they are mining in slush's pool. Smiley

I am also right now doing the BitcoinMe spanish translations though, I don't have much time to do it with my hw. >_<

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January 13, 2011, 03:46:08 AM
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Finally, teenagers like video games.  Thus they own graphic cards, and I'm sure they'd be happy to use them to mine if we can convince them that they will be able to buy video games with the bitcoins they will produce. 

They also don't pay the electric bill, lol.

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January 13, 2011, 07:29:42 AM
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Finally, teenagers like video games.  Thus they own graphic cards, and I'm sure they'd be happy to use them to mine if we can convince them that they will be able to buy video games with the bitcoins they will produce. 

They also don't pay the electric bill, lol.

Nor rent...and they probably got their GPU from Santa.  Smiley 

Maybe we should try to get The Humble Indie Bundle to accept bitcoin payment.  They seem to have bi-annual releases of a package of games, where they let you choose your own price and how much you want to donate to your favorite charity.  I was going to buy one for myself over the holidays, but didn't want to use paypal...

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January 13, 2011, 06:20:16 PM
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teenagers also like porn,. and are not allowed to purchase it.

Just sayin.

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January 13, 2011, 07:25:44 PM
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... why would anyone buy porn? internet has too much of it everywhere for free
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January 13, 2011, 10:31:17 PM
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... why would anyone buy porn? internet has too much of it everywhere for free

Convienence.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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January 13, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
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... why would anyone buy porn? internet has too much of it everywhere for free

Convienence.

Already very convenience to acquired 30 minutes long hardcore pornography. They might be willing to pay for live sex, though.

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January 13, 2011, 11:27:53 PM
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No I am not, I prefer comedies. Seriously, if we can get The American Dream Film guys to make a Bitcoin movie it would be great!

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... why would anyone buy porn? internet has too much of it everywhere for free

Convienence.

Already very convenience to acquired 30 minutes long hardcore pornography. They might be willing to pay for live sex, though.

and strip shows.....
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January 14, 2011, 04:21:45 AM
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... why would anyone buy porn? internet has too much of it everywhere for free

I want to know that the girls are receiving my bitcoins.  I don't want to be exploiting anyone.

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January 14, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
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Let's come back from all the porn non-sense.

I quite like the idea of teenagers becoming our target audience, since they are likely to adopt Bitcoins should we be able to create virtual goods they can buy (think FarmVille). Young people are easier to convince to join a movement like Bitcoin.

Want to see what developers are chatting about? http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/
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January 14, 2011, 03:27:31 PM
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Let's come back from all the porn non-sense.

I quite like the idea of teenagers becoming our target audience, since they are likely to adopt Bitcoins should we be able to create virtual goods they can buy (think FarmVille). Young people are easier to convince to join a movement like Bitcoin.

I'm thinking "Farmville".  Yes.  Let's exploit weak humans by preying on their obsessive-compulisve behavior for profit.   No.  I do not think so.  I would rather pay a (legal) girl honest money (bitcoin) to see her naked.

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January 14, 2011, 07:24:25 PM
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Let's come back from all the porn non-sense.

I quite like the idea of teenagers becoming our target audience, since they are likely to adopt Bitcoins should we be able to create virtual goods they can buy (think FarmVille). Young people are easier to convince to join a movement like Bitcoin.

I'm thinking "Farmville".  Yes.  Let's exploit weak humans by preying on their obsessive-compulisve behavior for profit.   No.  I do not think so.  I would rather pay a (legal) girl honest money (bitcoin) to see her naked.

Although you make a fair point, shock value included, someone is going to do the prey-on-OC-behaviour thing.  The differences between a heroin dealer and a pharmacist is a matter of degree.  If we can agree to a set of volutary rules for ethical behaviour, we stand to have much greater success at compliance.  If we simply declare such activities as prohibited because of a moral viewpoint, then such activities will simply occur out of our view and therefore beyond our capacity to affect in either a positive or negative manner.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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January 14, 2011, 08:48:08 PM
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If it's good enough for dollars it's good enough for bitcoin.

Digital currency (such as facebook app points) is likely to be a boom area for Bitcoin, simply because these are almost bitcoinesque already (users are used to "value" being numbers in a database, for example, which the general e-commerce visitor might not be)


All games work on a "reward the user" basis: it's all basic psychology. But there are far better ones than Zynga games like Farmville/Mafia Wars.
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January 14, 2011, 11:42:42 PM
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Although you make a fair point, shock value included, someone is going to do the prey-on-OC-behaviour thing.  The differences between a heroin dealer and a pharmacist is a matter of degree.  If we can agree to a set of volutary rules for ethical behaviour, we stand to have much greater success at compliance.  If we simply declare such activities as prohibited because of a moral viewpoint, then such activities will simply occur out of our view and therefore beyond our capacity to affect in either a positive or negative manner.

Fair enough.  I suppose there is nothing inherently immoral about the whole prey-on-OC-behavior thing, and someone is going to do it anyway...

All games work on a "reward the user" basis: it's all basic psychology. But there are far better ones than Zynga games like Farmville/Mafia Wars.

Excellent point.  That's why I suggest we focus our targeted lobbying efforts to try to get the "Humble Indie Bundle" (http://www.humblebundle.com/) to accept bitcoin.  There is a great deal of cultural overlap between the bitcoin community and the DRM-free gaming community:  "Free" as in freedom, not "free beer".  I almost  bought from them this December, but I didn't want to use the evil paypal, google checkout, or another proprietary payment options.

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January 16, 2011, 12:49:09 AM
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I've been playing World of the Living Dead lately (it's currently in beta.) It's a free to play browser based MMOTBSG. The developers sell credits to players which can be used to buy items (using paypal) in the game. Imagine if such a game accepted bitcoins! Actually, I seem to remember a thread about such a game in development

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January 16, 2011, 12:52:53 AM
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I've been playing World of the Living Dead lately (it's currently in beta.) It's a free to play browser based MMOTBSG. The developers sell credits to players which can be used to buy items (using paypal) in the game. Imagine if such a game accepted bitcoins! Actually, I seem to remember a thread about such a game in development

I'm thinking of a bitcoin chess plateform.   There are numerous electronic chess tournament system, for both humans and machines.   It wouldn't be very hard to modify it so that players and computers could play for bitcoins.
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