*Failed*[Group Buy] 1070ti BULK BUY straight to OEM

[sAj1420]

I’m happy to meet any forum veterans in person, I’m in MA and will be in NYC tomorrow morning meeting with Amir and his partner, are there any forum veterans in the NYC area that would be willing to meet up? How about any in the MA area?

[Kapz786]

Going to tell everyone that this is not legit. If you are willing to fall for this, then you deserve to be scammed. Current backorders on 1070 and tis across the 3 major manufacturers are in the hundreds of thousands, and everyone is willing to pay $500+, while Nvidia manufacturers and custom manufacturers are charging over $400 per gpu and selling out right away. I work with manufacturers, and even p104-100 manufacturers, and guarantee this is not legit. I will contact my Nvidia contact and confirm this next week.

Spewing this bullshit in the BTCP discord, and here. We have been ordering truck loads of cards regularly over the past 2 years from various manufacturers, including direct from Nvidia. Bulk orders get priority. May of this year you didn't know how to build a rig, I'm gonna go ahead and assume your time "working with manufacturers" hasn't garnered you the ability to make the big deals.

More importantly: what are the main concerns people have, and what do you need to see from us to alleviate them? That's what the focus of the discussion should be here. Not speculation, hearsay, and FUD.

We will be adding photos soon of our warehouse, our shipping container (which we work out of) and of all the forum members we meet as we fly around to meet people ordering 1000+ units. Unless they really hate photos. We'll see.

I will be in the NYC area this Sunday morning if anybody wants to meet in person.
We're meeting with the mfgr reps, this is the time to take questions to them as we begin to discuss terms.
Please post burning questions here.

Questions we've gathered so far:

• What are the Warranty details?
• Can we obtain a sample to run tests, if so how large
• Please add more...

I'm happy to take calls or in-person meetings at any time with anyone who has questions. The deal on this thread is simple, all payment is done through Escrow. Or standby letter of credit. No money will ever leave our hands until we have inspected and verified the goods, as per OUR terms.

Here's my calendar, feel free schedule a meeting/call: http://vyte.in/amir

Some Clarification (will add to op soon):
A Sponsor is: Someone who meets the minimum order of 300units, and is willing to order more for people who can't make the minimum. This involves taking payment from those people and discussing terms with them: Payment terms (credit card? paypal? Escrow? crypto?), Shipping terms, Taxes, After-sales service, Warranty, Return Policy, etc.
If you would like to be a sponsor please make a post on this thread and spell out your terms, which will be recorded on the OP.

DO NOT order from our site unless you agree with our sponsorship terms.
We are sponsoring 1000 units @ 5pcs minimum order. We offer no additional warranty and accept no returns. If you experience issues with setup or have any questions we will offer 30 days of free phone + e-mail + text support to get you up and off the ground. We accept BTC/altcoin payments through coinpayments.net as well as all major credit cards. Payment is due upon placing your order. If this Group Buy does not succeed, all orders will be promptly refunded. Estimated ship dates for our units is April 15-30.

We need forum veterans to audit the sponsors: Sponsors should be vetted out by people on this forum who are trusted. Nobody should place an order from a sponsor they don't trust.

The goal is for people to stick to this GB thread and do larger orders through escrow. The ideal scenario is that people here band behind forum members that they trust, and pool their orders to meet the 300 minimum.

I'm happy to assist any potential buyers from Australia/NZ/Singapore in that area due to logistics including organising any required escrow and shipping. I wont be able to meet 300 units on my own so it would have to be a collective of some other buyers. If this works for anyone please PM me and I can speak further with ark02

[wheelz1200]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

[sAj1420]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

We can talk about adding onto my order. Where are you in the us? Would be nice to meet in person if we could. I’m hoping to have most people that add on use PayPal or Etsy / eBay for protection, but I should be able to cover some people that won’t do those methods.

[jenia1]

just a small question which I might have missed.

since they are not going to be branded, how would the Warranty issue be addressed?

[kebabman]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

We can talk about adding onto my order. Where are you in the us? Would be nice to meet in person if we could. I’m hoping to have most people that add on use PayPal or Etsy / eBay for protection, but I should be able to cover some people that won’t do those methods.

I'm in New England, possibly interested in 50 also.

[No.15]

small fry here, I will do 10 through a sponsor.  What is the drop dead date to order? I may be able to double my order.

[sAj1420]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

We can talk about adding onto my order. Where are you in the us? Would be nice to meet in person if we could. I’m hoping to have most people that add on use PayPal or Etsy / eBay for protection, but I should be able to cover some people that won’t do those methods.

I'm in New England, possibly interested in 50 also.

Great, can we meet up in person one day this coming week? I would like to meet with 3 or 4 veteran members to gain some validation for sponsoring others on here.  You can contact me through skype, email, ( saj1420@gmail.com)  telegram ( @saj1420 ) or I can PM you my cell if you prefer.

[sAj1420]

small fry here, I will do 10 through a sponsor.  What is the drop dead date to order? I may be able to double my order.

Happy to help you out, I will find out the deadline tomorrow morning when I meet with them.  Contact me through any of the methods posted in the main post under sponsors. Also in the post right above this one.

[ark02]

just a small question which I might have missed.

since they are not going to be branded, how would the Warranty issue be addressed?

We have a meeting 1pm tomorrow in NYC, will get back to everyone after  I can ask about warranty, drop dead date, and  samples.

Best,
Amir

[wheelz1200]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

We can talk about adding onto my order. Where are you in the us? Would be nice to meet in person if we could. I’m hoping to have most people that add on use PayPal or Etsy / eBay for protection, but I should be able to cover some people that won’t do those methods.

East coast US tri state area. 

[wavlink1]

Only concern is kingston as gpu mem, never saw this before

[sAj1420]

In the US possibly interested in 50 or so cards.  How will all the logistics work?  I would need to be able to use escrow if im going in on someone elses deal if thats possible.  Im in the US, and when would you be looking to make the order since there is a 8-10 week lead time.  Thanks.

We can talk about adding onto my order. Where are you in the us? Would be nice to meet in person if we could. I’m hoping to have most people that add on use PayPal or Etsy / eBay for protection, but I should be able to cover some people that won’t do those methods.

East coast US tri state area. 

Awesome get in touch with me I'll be in Manhattan tomorrow during the day maybe we can meet up for a bit.  Otherwise I am in MA but willing to make a trip.

[sAj1420]

Only concern is kingston as gpu mem, never saw this before

Kingston memory has been used in many NVIDIA gpu's.  As well as many other brands of memory. Do some research on it you will see all the cards it has been used in.

[cptfisher]

Kingston does not manufacture memory chips... Kingston manufactures MODULES from 3rd parties chips............


just from this detail this smells of scam.

[sAj1420]

Kingston does not manufacture memory chips... Kingston manufactures MODULES from 3rd parties chips............


just from this detail this smells of scam.

Im just curious how someone can call this a scam when the op never touches anyones funds until product is in their hands and inspected, am I missing something here?  And why can't NVIDIA have needed memory modules? I don't think anyone specified memory chips or not.

[cptfisher]

nvidia does not use modules on their vga.... have you ever seen a ram module  on a vga? nvidia solders the memory chipset straight  on the vgas pcb..... and kingston does not manufacture such product.... nanya hynix samsung micron qimonda are some (eg qimonda does not exit anylonger replaced by infineon)

[lbr]

Kingston does not manufacture memory chips... Kingston manufactures MODULES from 3rd parties chips............


just from this detail this smells of scam.

Im just curious how someone can call this a scam when the op never touches anyones funds until product is in their hands and inspected, am I missing something here?  And why can't NVIDIA have needed memory modules? I don't think anyone specified memory chips or not.

I'd like to see GPUs with memory modules. And with full-blown BIOS, since we are in a fairy tale.
Oh, and some external PSU ofc. And maybe socketed GPU core. So we can just change them, when cores become obsolete.

Would be awesome ; )
Easy to expand, change timings etc ; )

If that's the case, I'm changing my order to 1002.

[sAj1420]

Kingston does not manufacture memory chips... Kingston manufactures MODULES from 3rd parties chips............


just from this detail this smells of scam.

Im just curious how someone can call this a scam when the op never touches anyones funds until product is in their hands and inspected, am I missing something here?  And why can't NVIDIA have needed memory modules? I don't think anyone specified memory chips or not.

I'd like to see GPUs with memory modules. And with full-blown BIOS, since we are in a fairy tale.
Oh, and some external PSU ofc. And maybe socketed GPU core. So we can just change them, when cores become obsolete.

Would be awesome ; )
Easy to expand, change timings etc ; )

If that's the case, I'm changing my order to 1002.

I can’t claim to know about the internal workings of a gpu so thank you for providing that. I’ll be sitting down with the OP in a few hours and will discuss this concern in person, and get back to you as soon as possible on the details.

A quick online search had led me to this article  https://www.[Suspicious link removed]s/www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/gtx-1070-micron-memory%3famp Which talked about different memory modules being used in the cards, but that is all I was going off I def can’t claim to know for sure

***edit: I cant post the link but here is a snippet of what the page was talking about....

"Original story, October 6, 2016: Some of the latest GTX 1070 cards have been fitted with Micron GDDR5 instead of the original Samsung modules, and some users have been reporting issues when pushing the cards to the limits.

The first flush of Nvidia’s GTX 1070 graphics cards were released using Samsung’s GDDR5 memory modules for their VRAM. They were picked because they could nail the 8,000MHz effective memory speeds without breaking a sweat. It was also the first time that such high performance memory modules were used in reference graphics card designs.

In order to keep up with demand for the popular second-tier Pascal card though manufacturers have started sourcing memory modules from Micron as well. A report from Sweclockers, however, states that some users have started experiencing graphical issues with their new GTX 1070 cards because of the memory switch."

[lbr]

I can’t claim to know about the internal workings of a gpu so thank you for providing that. I’ll be sitting down with the OP in a few hours and will discuss this concern in person, and get back to you as soon as possible on the details.

...Which talked about different memory modules being used in the cards...

You see, that's the problem. I mean it's fine for you to not know the difference between memory module and memory chip and their manufacturers.

But for s1 selling 10000 GPUs directly from nVidia.. Like cptfisher said - it smells.
I mean you would expect at least some basic technical expertise, right?

Anyone who is in the GPU business for more than a month knows which memory nVidia and AMD uses.
And what's more suspicious, Kingston is not memory manufacturer. Meaning they buy memory chips and solder them onto PCBs, then sell this product, which is called "memory module".

nVidia and AMD cards have memory chips soldered directly to their GPU cards. New AMD GPUs even have memory on die with the core.

So yeah.. it is all alarming and ofc I don't understand how "sitting down" can really solve anything.
Escrow can, yes. But even then, freezing medium-large amount of money is not really good idea. Because money frozen on the bank account/escrow don't make more money.