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August 22, 2013, 09:56:53 AM |
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They really need to be sued!!! Let's group together!
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CrashX
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August 22, 2013, 10:05:34 AM |
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They really need to be sued!!! Let's group together!
Just sue them, what state are you located at? how much money do you have in? I tell what is the best option to do...
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HellDiverUK
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August 22, 2013, 10:16:11 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
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mah87 (OP)
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August 22, 2013, 10:19:14 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot !
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CrashX
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August 22, 2013, 10:38:38 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
I should buy one, wait 2 months and sue them. For those leaving in the States, If you have purchase a product from BFL and you haven't received it. And you waited at least 2 to 3 months and have requested a refund and you haven't received one. You could sue for not issuing refund, there is two type of lawsuits, for small claims I wrote in details the process below. File a Small Claim in your county/city court. Each county has its a limit on how much you could sue a person or company for. Here is Tucson, AZ were I'm from its $2,500 max. You don't need an Attorney, Just fill the form, [Write in details your claim] you will have to pay a small fee, Here Tucson, AZ is 25.00, ^^Type out in a computer and just submitted with your claim^^ Then you need to send them CERTIFIED LETTER with a copy of the lawsuit and copy of your invoice and your full details. ^^with signature required and returned proof, this will cost you $5 at the USPS They will have 3 options 1. they settle the claim stating that they have issue you a refund and for you to drop the lawsuit and agree to it 2. Challenge your claim and op to go court...They will respond to court in which they need to send you a copy of there response. I. If they want to challenge you, that means they need to travel all the way to your court. II. with there response you will know what they are planning. 3. They don't response, then you go to court by your self and Win the case, because the defendant didn't show up. I. If you win by default the Judge will issue you a judgment, in which you could use to make them pay or have the company locked down with everything inside, if they refuse to pay. Small Claims are pretty easy to do, just make sure do everything required. I'm pretty good at it will help you out with paper work
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HellDiverUK
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August 22, 2013, 10:46:19 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot ! Yes, I will. Dumb-ass.
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mah87 (OP)
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August 22, 2013, 02:23:29 PM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot ! Yes, I will. Dumb-ass. I don't think so, Sheep
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August 22, 2013, 02:32:47 PM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot ! Yes, I will. Dumb-ass. I don't think so, Sheep Lets not direct our anger at each other here. Only one to blame is BFL and the idiots that bought a Monarch as a new order not an upgrade.
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mah87 (OP)
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August 22, 2013, 02:45:25 PM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot ! Yes, I will. Dumb-ass. I don't think so, Sheep Lets not direct our anger at each other here. Only one to blame is BFL and the idiots that bought a Monarch as a new order not an upgrade. true. I really hate them.
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Bicknellski
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August 26, 2013, 12:54:32 PM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
I should buy one, wait 2 months and sue them. For those leaving in the States, If you have purchase a product from BFL and you haven't received it. And you waited at least 2 to 3 months and have requested a refund and you haven't received one. You could sue for not issuing refund, there is two type of lawsuits, for small claims I wrote in details the process below. File a Small Claim in your county/city court. Each county has its a limit on how much you could sue a person or company for. Here is Tucson, AZ were I'm from its $2,500 max. You don't need an Attorney, Just fill the form, [Write in details your claim] you will have to pay a small fee, Here Tucson, AZ is 25.00, ^^Type out in a computer and just submitted with your claim^^ Then you need to send them CERTIFIED LETTER with a copy of the lawsuit and copy of your invoice and your full details. ^^with signature required and returned proof, this will cost you $5 at the USPS They will have 3 options 1. they settle the claim stating that they have issue you a refund and for you to drop the lawsuit and agree to it 2. Challenge your claim and op to go court...They will respond to court in which they need to send you a copy of there response. I. If they want to challenge you, that means they need to travel all the way to your court. II. with there response you will know what they are planning. 3. They don't response, then you go to court by your self and Win the case, because the defendant didn't show up. I. If you win by default the Judge will issue you a judgment, in which you could use to make them pay or have the company locked down with everything inside, if they refuse to pay. Small Claims are pretty easy to do, just make sure do everything required. I'm pretty good at it will help you out with paper work Helpful info that... Applicable to Yifu chips as well I might suspect.
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Red_Wolf_2
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August 26, 2013, 02:59:45 PM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
You won't have it!!! idiot ! Yes, I will. Dumb-ass. I don't think so, Sheep He will get them eventually. I did.. Yes it was a lot of waiting but it did turn up.
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Probably should put something here.... Maybe an LTC address? LeNdJidEvsyogSu2KbC1u3bfJSdcjACFsF
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Trupik
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August 26, 2013, 03:11:06 PM |
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He will get them eventually. I did.. Yes it was a lot of waiting but it did turn up.
No, he won't. The company will go bust long before then. They don't have the money to refund, that is why they deny customers of their rights. The shit is about to hit the fan soon.
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Red_Wolf_2
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August 26, 2013, 03:18:53 PM |
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He will get them eventually. I did.. Yes it was a lot of waiting but it did turn up.
No, he won't. The company will go bust long before then. They don't have the money to refund, that is why they deny customers of their rights. The shit is about to hit the fan soon. People said that months ago. It didn't happen. Somehow I suspect they are more resilient than you give them credit for.
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Probably should put something here.... Maybe an LTC address? LeNdJidEvsyogSu2KbC1u3bfJSdcjACFsF
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0nlyBTC
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August 29, 2013, 08:14:45 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
I should buy one, wait 2 months and sue them. For those leaving in the States, If you have purchase a product from BFL and you haven't received it. And you waited at least 2 to 3 months and have requested a refund and you haven't received one. You could sue for not issuing refund, there is two type of lawsuits, for small claims I wrote in details the process below. File a Small Claim in your county/city court. Each county has its a limit on how much you could sue a person or company for. Here is Tucson, AZ were I'm from its $2,500 max. You don't need an Attorney, Just fill the form, [Write in details your claim] you will have to pay a small fee, Here Tucson, AZ is 25.00, ^^Type out in a computer and just submitted with your claim^^ Then you need to send them CERTIFIED LETTER with a copy of the lawsuit and copy of your invoice and your full details. ^^with signature required and returned proof, this will cost you $5 at the USPS They will have 3 options 1. they settle the claim stating that they have issue you a refund and for you to drop the lawsuit and agree to it 2. Challenge your claim and op to go court...They will respond to court in which they need to send you a copy of there response. I. If they want to challenge you, that means they need to travel all the way to your court. II. with there response you will know what they are planning. 3. They don't response, then you go to court by your self and Win the case, because the defendant didn't show up. I. If you win by default the Judge will issue you a judgment, in which you could use to make them pay or have the company locked down with everything inside, if they refuse to pay. Small Claims are pretty easy to do, just make sure do everything required. I'm pretty good at it will help you out with paper work I will purse this. Thank you. (Fellow Arizona Citizen)
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btcdrak
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August 30, 2013, 11:11:38 AM |
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I'd rather you didn't. I want my 7GH miner.
Now, according to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ the 7GH Jali's will never make back their cost. The game is already up.
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August 30, 2013, 12:53:35 PM |
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If someone can find all of Josh's personal information, including what property he owns, the next step is to Lien his personal property for theft and fraud. Anyone who has a claim against Josh, should step forward and seize his personal property. I think it might be time for people to take back what belongs to them. If I were dumb enough to be fucked over by Butterfly Labs, I would hire someone to track Josh home and find out where he lives, his car, his bank account etc., Then I would lien every personal item within 100 ft of him, including his wife's property, if he has one, and she has any. I would have his bank accounts seized by the Sheriffs, I would make sure to take every single item he owns. Sorry to break it to you i didn't search to far to see if BFL truly has a incorporation but most likely they spent the little amount to for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_%28business%29Most likely legal action will be against the company (sadly its like a legal person). Granted it is possible legal action could touch personal property...... it will be a lot harder. Sad..... but they knew what they were doing when they made the company. Josh couldn't cover 4M dollars with his current city data property. A simple Google Search shows: 18400 Juniper Terrace Gardner, KS Show street view Owner: JOSHUA ZERLAN Property class: Residential Assessed land value: $4,327 Assessed building value: $13,199 Total assessed value for property: $17,526 Appraised land value: $37,630 Appraised building value: $114,770 Appraised total value: $152,400 Assessments for tax year: 2010 Read more: http://www.city-data.com/johnson-county-ks-properties/J/Juniper-Terrace-1.html#ixzz2dS0GL49BI found this from a different thread from february here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135979.5Josh R. Zerlan 18400 Juniper Ter., Gardner, KS 66030
Chris A. Vleisides 9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or) 2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Chris T. Vleisides 9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or) 2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Connie-Ann Vleisides 9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; Gregory W. Vleisides, Esq. Missouri Bar Number: 25557 Date Admitted: 5/5/1977 1801 NW Platte Rd., Suite Kansas City, MO 64105
Jody - You're soooo much a dumb bitch (I obviously have a great disdain for you and you stupid comments - should've just shut the fuck up while you were ahead) - you haven't even updated your linked in profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jody-drake/13/556/4ba?trk=pub-pbmapJody Drake owner at Awakening World Art & Design Graphic design? so you're probably the dumbass that designed their logo which is a total piece of shit. By the way world, blow her up, here's her phone number: 913-231-3176 And of course, I end this with yours truly: 10664. Shawnee Mission 9324 W 51st Street Merriam KS, 66203 Jody Drake That one was a tough one to find, probably out of date: http://www.locatefamily.com/Street-Lists/USA/KS/66203/index21.htmlI will be repeating this post into A LOT of bfl threads now...If you are MAD at BFL, then "wreak havok on the lives of the persons mentioned" Well, regarding Jody... I'm myself currently in a process of suing BFL, but I still consider Jody the one and only credible person in the company. As far as I can say, she's not the reason of my painful experience with BFL. I hate her blogs, but I consider her to be only the messenger of bad news. The bad news itself are produced somewhere deeper in this rotten company.
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greyhawk
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August 30, 2013, 01:36:54 PM |
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Well, regarding Jody... I'm myself currently in a process of suing BFL, but I still consider Jody the one and only credible person in the company. As far as I can say, she's not the reason of my painful experience with BFL. I hate her blogs, but I consider her to be only the messenger of bad news. The bad news itself are produced somewhere deeper in this rotten company.
Don't hate her for her blogs. Text analysis shows that a good part of those posts are not written by her, but by Josh in a wig and drag using the "Jody" account.
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Xian01
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August 30, 2013, 03:23:45 PM |
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If you are MAD at BFL, then "wreak havok on the lives of the persons mentioned"
Dude. This is not acceptable behaviour.
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BTCscraper
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August 30, 2013, 04:38:07 PM |
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Well, regarding Jody... I'm myself currently in a process of suing BFL, but I still consider Jody the one and only credible person in the company. As far as I can say, she's not the reason of my painful experience with BFL. I hate her blogs, but I consider her to be only the messenger of bad news. The bad news itself are produced somewhere deeper in this rotten company.
Don't hate her for her blogs. Text analysis shows that a good part of those posts are not written by her, but by Josh in a wig and drag using the "Jody" account. Did she say they were shipping en mass?
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Butterfly Labs has a different interpretation of the FTC Mail Order Rule. You do not have a refund option with the BFL Monarch no matter how late they ship. "... In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." -- Albert Einstein "Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you sweat, the luckier you get." -- Ray Kroc
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jdape
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September 02, 2013, 05:22:43 AM |
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AFAIK, small claims court doesn't apply to companies operating outside of the state in which you live. So, unless you live in the same state that BFL operates in, you can't sue them in small claims court.
Edit: actually you can file a claim in the state they operate within, but you may have to travel there to attend the court hearing.
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