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January 21, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
Last edit: January 21, 2018, 04:40:18 PM by edgycorner
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I have thought of a way to discourage campaign spammers and might help the forum maintain its integrity.


An addition of spam protection option in the "Additional Options" Sections:

https://i.imgur.com/io5QP2B.png


Each reply on such spam protected topics will have an option of reporting it as a spam
https://i.imgur.com/uRyLaJG.jpg

Only user's above member(or a certain activity), can report a reply as SPAM. A reply can be reported only once by a user.
Each report will carry a different score(depending upon the rank of the reporter).
For eg:
A legendary/hero/Senior/Full members report will carry a score of 6/5/3/2.
Once a user's spam score reaches(or exceeds) a certain value(maybe 30 in this example) in a day, he/she will get a cooldown period of 7 days and won't be allowed to post on spam protected threads(below).
If a user gets more than 2 CDs in a month, then permanent ban?


Spam protected threads will stand out from other threads, maybe like this :

https://i.imgur.com/icfShm7.jpg

This will help people to differentiate between a serious and a BS topic.

Or we can apply this spam reporting globally, without the spam protection option.

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January 21, 2018, 05:33:39 PM
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What about the abusers, accounts that bans every message to annoy some users? There should be a limit with number of posts reported, increasing with grade. Mods could have infinite report number, but anyone else haven't. Or maybe give this option only to moderators or DT members?

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January 21, 2018, 05:33:40 PM
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My 2 cents Satoshis:
1. Spam protection shouldn't be optional. If you want to stop spam in your thread, make it self-moderated. Anything else should be applied globally.
2. Not only Newbies spam, spam happens on higher ranks too. All Newbies who get through without being banned eventually get a higher rank.
3. The "spam score" shouldn't be a fixed value, it should be a percentage of the posts a user makes. But even then, it can be abused. Suppose I don't like you: I'm Legendary, so I only need to report 5 of your 113 posts as Spam to get you banned for a week!

I appreciate you trying, but most ideas have downsides too.

This will help people to differentiate between a serious and a BS topic.
Ideally, this shouldn't be necessary. All topics should be serious topics.

My new personal favourite: report more posts than you make! In the past week I got about 800 accounts banned, on top of my "normal" reports.

Or maybe give this option only to moderators or DT members?
Moderators already have a ban-button to deal with spammers, and recently I've seen several DT-members who start tagging spammers. If that happens enough, spammers may fear for their accounts and spam less!

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January 21, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
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My 2 cents Satoshis:
1. Spam protection shouldn't be optional. If you want to stop spam in your thread, make it self-moderated. Anything else should be applied globally.
2. Not only Newbies spam, spam happens on higher ranks too. All Newbies who get through without being banned eventually get a higher rank.
3. The "spam score" shouldn't be a fixed value, it should be a percentage of the posts a user makes. But even then, it can be abused. Suppose I don't like you: I'm Legendary, so I only need to report 5 of your 113 posts as Spam to get you banned for a week!

I appreciate you trying, but most ideas have downsides too.

This will help people to differentiate between a serious and a BS topic.
Ideally, this shouldn't be necessary. All topics should be serious topics.

My new personal favourite: report more posts than you make! In the past week I got about 800 accounts banned, on top of my "normal" reports.

Or maybe give this option only to moderators or DT members?
Moderators already have a ban-button to deal with spammers, and recently I've seen several DT-members who start tagging spammers. If that happens enough, spammers may fear for their accounts and spam less!
To be honest I always wondered if my reports ever had any action on them, because I never received follow-up... so I stopped reporting people.  Grin

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January 21, 2018, 08:29:13 PM
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1. Spam protection shouldn't be optional. If you want to stop spam in your thread, make it self-moderated. Anything else should be applied globally.
Yup, applying it globally makes more sense.

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2. Not only Newbies spam, spam happens on higher ranks too. All Newbies who get through without being banned eventually get a higher rank.
All user can be reported regardless of their rank.

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3. The "spam score" shouldn't be a fixed value, it should be a percentage of the posts a user makes. But even then, it can be abused. Suppose I don't like you: I'm Legendary, so I only need to report 5 of your 113 posts as Spam to get you banned for a week!
You can report someone only once in a day.And the score will reset after every 24 hours.

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To be honest I always wondered if my reports ever had any action on them, because I never received follow-up... so I stopped reporting people
Exactly.
Mods aren't robots, it's impossible for them to ban every spammer.



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January 21, 2018, 08:35:56 PM
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To be honest I always wondered if my reports ever had any action on them, because I never received follow-up... so I stopped reporting people.  Grin
You can check Deletion log to see deleted posts or banned accounts.

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January 21, 2018, 10:00:20 PM
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Only user's above member(or a certain activity), can report a reply as SPAM. A reply can be reported only once by a user.
Each report will carry a different score(depending upon the rank of the reporter).
For eg:
A legendary/hero/Senior/Full members report will carry a score of 6/5/3/2.
Once a user's spam score reaches(or exceeds) a certain value(maybe 30 in this example) in a day, he/she will get a cooldown period of 7 days and won't be allowed to post on spam protected threads(below).
If a user gets more than 2 CDs in a month, then permanent ban?
imagine a smart account farmer who managed to hold 10+ bctalk accounts rank senior
he could then get anyone in trouble just by targeting a user and tagging his posts as spam

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An addition of spam protection option in the "Additional Options" Sections:
and adding the "Spam Protection" option is like justifying regular threads as spamable threads

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January 21, 2018, 10:18:30 PM
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I've seen several DT-members who start tagging spammers.
I'm doing this, and I'm trying to target the worst of the worst.  There are so many borderline shitposters, though, that I don't feel 100% comfortable tagging.  It'd be so much better if staff would ban these idiots who are only here to earn money from campaigns, but I suspect that Theymos doesn't want them to do it.  Hilariousandco has banned a lot, as has mprep...but they can't keep up! 

Good job, LoyceV.  Getting all those morons identified and nuked is a beautiful thing.

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January 22, 2018, 10:17:30 AM
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I've seen several DT-members who start tagging spammers.
I'm doing this, and I'm trying to target the worst of the worst.
I saw your promotion, and I've been following the Reputation section a bit. Suddenly hundreds of accounts have red trust, and all of a sudden they start caring about the trust-rating you left them months ago. Since your promotion you've collected a shitload of retaliation feedback Cheesy

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There are so many borderline shitposters, though, that I don't feel 100% comfortable tagging.
DT2 has the power to instantly destroy an account, and I've seen others tag accounts for much less.

Another thought: how about disabling signatures for anyone with enough red trust on DT2?

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January 23, 2018, 10:26:32 AM
Last edit: January 23, 2018, 02:18:03 PM by edgycorner
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imagine a smart account farmer who managed to hold 10+ bctalk accounts rank senior
he could then get anyone in trouble just by targeting a user and tagging his posts as spam

Yup, farmers can misuse this to target accounts.
Then how about changing the period from 24 hour to 1 week.
One account can report the other only once a week.
And all the accounts will be checked by mods before a permanent ban.

Or allow only DT members to report a post as spam?

Edit:I don't think we need any solution. DT members are tagging all the shitposters. Kampai!

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