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I don't think post helps the OP. You are suggesting to a newbie that they should spam bounty/airdrop threads and join a signature campaign before they have made their 5th post. This is counter-productive, unhelpful and pushing this person in exactly the opposite direction that they should be. They cannot even do what you are suggesting. This does not deserve Merit, IMO. In all honesty, the thread is so poorly laid out from the beginning that it's hard to even know what the OP is asking; it doesn't look like a thread where OP is actually trying to have a serious discussion though. It seems like they are spamming a one-line, poorly thought out vague question. They want to be handed tokens for no effort. I just can't take anything in that thread seriously. I have merited this post, because it has some solid information within it that I believe to be helpful, precautionary and hard to dispute. It is very reasonable advice; many people have had bad run-ins with cloud-mining in the past, and so it's good to talk about their integrity, what to be aware of and what alternative you have if you are interested in mining to that degree. These other posts feel a little bit forced, or as if you are trying to make them longer than they need to be. While they may be a part of the conversation, it just doesn't feel as though they'd be universally helpful; so, because of this I'll have to say no merit on these posts. Thanks for participating everybody so far, this has been pretty fun. I am honestly a little bit sad that I don't feel I can merit these posts. The posts you are linking are so close each time, but there is just something off about them each time that makes me feel as though I cannot merit them. These "Buy or Sell?" Threads are one big problem we have, so I won't be feeding into that with merit at this time. Your post seems very well thought out, helpful to OP, but again it just unfortunately is in that spammy-type thread. Please, feel free to submit more of your posts, you are not exploiting it and I would like to see you earn some Merit. There is no way I would be able to adequately distribute my sMerit meaningfully without this thread operating. Merited and Rejected, you've all played a big part in helping me understand the merit system better and I plan to keep this up as long as my fingers, and attention span, will allow me. I have gone through all of the posts up to this point, sorry it took so long this round, but I had a very busy few days.
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Wouldn't this thread be better served if people were to report other peoples posts that deserve meriting?
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January 26, 2018, 11:17:12 PM |
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Wouldn't this thread be better served if people were to report other peoples posts that deserve meriting?
I doubt it, "better served" meaning what exactly? In my estimation if I made it a rule to only send other people's posts I would get either alts spamming my thread, or very few high-ranking altruistic members submitting extremely helpful (but probably already heavily merited) posts by legendary/staff members. This gives people a chance to step-up and say "I'm undervalued" (merit-wise), and a public examination can take place. If people disagree with my merit or lack-thereof they can counter it however they see fit. If they agree and would like emphasize my merits that is warranted as well. I'm offering my opinion, an honest look at these people's posts that very often are newbies or low ranking members. The critique and incentive is best placed on the individuals who would benefit or require adjustment, I think. That being said, Feel free to submit another user's post; I have nothing against it, and with you having the ability to more objectively rate another's post as opposed to your own I would say that there's going to be a better chance we agree that it deserves a merit.
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January 27, 2018, 06:50:00 AM Last edit: January 27, 2018, 08:00:06 AM by krishnaverma |
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Please review this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827385.msg28971105#msg28971105I think this is a nice initiative taken by you and I might make a similar post giving away my merits acquired to deserving posts from new members.
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January 27, 2018, 07:16:48 PM Last edit: January 31, 2018, 02:48:00 PM by bill gator |
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No, this post can not. Very low-quality, no information being presented that hasn't been said a hundred times. I have given you merit for this thread; it seems like it's a needed conversation to be had and I haven't had the time to look around the forum, but it seems like most people are not talking about this too much. Thanks for trying to talk about the faults of the system and how we maybe can move forward. Most of these are in mega-threads about nothing that needs to be talked about. Nothing is helpful in the right way, at least in my opinion. The posts seem decent in quality, but just not something I believe deserves merit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2772143.msg29005833#msg29005833 abahcoin (Full Member) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236916.msg29005325#msg29005325 abahcoin (Full Member) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825636.msg28953530#msg28953530 abahcoin (Full Member) Rejected for being straight spam, contributing nothing; having hard to understand english, posting in mega-threads and being generally unhelpful. In the one thread you are being asked about a particular website and trail off about another site entirely without any reason for it. I'm not going to merit this thread, because it is going to inevitably feed into our low-quality posting problem, which is why we are in this predicament to begin with. Newbies do not need to even be aware of signature campaigns; they cannot join them and most companies would not want someone that volatile and uninformed to represent them. In my opinion it is not worth meriting. I found both of these posts to be very helpful, on-topic, well-thought out and concise. They convey the proper information without extra fluff and they make sure to actually help get OP the information/discussion they're looking for. I've merited both of these posts. These posts may be helpful in certain instances, but definitely not high-quality, in my opinion. At best these are conversations, but not universally helpful, informative or useful. They may be helpful to the OP though, and they may be a better candidate to receive Merit in this instance. None of these get merit from me, though.
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Hi, I post in our local section (Chinese community) to help people understand better about the new merit system, and encourage them to make high quality posts to get merit. This is the link(it is the Q & A for the new merit system): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829839Thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I've given you merit on these two threads, because it seems like you get pretty involved with these kind of things and give a well-thought response while most others are just mindlessly saying the same thing they do in every ICO. I appreciate you calling out the one for being a blatant money-grab. I'm sure these are high-quality posts, but I unfortunately cannot read this language so I won't be able to figure out if you need merit or not. I don't trust automatic translation programs, so I'm sorry to say no merit on these. If you'd like me to take a look at more of your English posts, feel free to come back with those. The same information is posted multiple times in that thread above yours. I'm not going to merit you being the 5th person to say the same thing to the same person. You could have provided more information, as well. One of these is in a mega-thread, which is always a bad sign. The one about declaration of donation did not provide enough information for it to be actually helpful or high-quality. That user walked away with no more information because of your post. The post about the merit system simply restates information that others have already beat to death and repeated multiple times. The last post about venezuela coins is interesting, but not too terribly high-quality. It doesn't add a whole lot to the conversation, rather just sort of quotes someone that I'm not sure how the reply fits as a response to them. It just feels pretty forced over all, try to only post in discussions that you have something unique to say that hasn't already been said. You might have been the first one to bring this up so I threw you a merit; I noticed it is in theymos' OP, but I'm not sure if that was added after you had asked the question. So I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and throwing you a bone. I'm not going to be giving you any merit for these posts, two of them are just about mobile legends betting, which is goofy, but not helpful, high-quality or worth a merit as far as I can tell. Your solution to the spam problem has been suggested many times and turned down many times for various reasons; the search bar would've been a solid thing to use in this instance. Helping update the signature campaign thread isn't high-quality in my opinion, there are members that already do it, they do not need help, they do a phenomenal job and I don't plan on giving them any merit for it either. You do deserve merit for this kind of this, but as I said previously if I can not read it then I cannot properly analyze/review it for merit. I'm sure you will gain a lot of attention from that local board and receive merit accordingly; I will keep your post in this thread and not delete it, because I believe that it deserves merit even if I cannot justifiably give it merit. Thread Cleaned-Up, Reviewed and Responded to up to this pointThanks everyone for participating, I will probably go through all of the merited posts and give another +1 to them tonight. Keep the juices flowing.
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I have given you merit for this post, because it is insightful and most people overlook strategies and realities such as you've laid out in your thread. I've also bookmarked the thread, because when I get an extra minute or two I plan to hop into the conversation myself; I used to do some day trading and it was no different from how you've laid it out. I'm not going to be giving you merit for either of these posts, because they are just asking a question; in a very hard to understand manner, at that. This would mostly only be helpful to yourself, especially when there is no follow-up guide or explanation for people having similar problems or anything like that. If you would have written an informational post about what you found the answer out to be that might help other's in the future, that post would deserve merit. I have merited this post, because it definitely served the community as a good relay of information; I'm not sure about if there were similar threads at the time, but it definitely helped people understand what was going on in a high-quality informative, concise manner. I appreciate this kind of post. I'm sorry, I won't be giving you merit for these posts, a lot of them are hard to read, repeat information that others have already presented in the same thread and are apart of a mega-thread. It looks like you're putting in a decent effort, but I just believe you're putting it in the wrong place. Try to be the first person to say whatever information you're going to say, don't be the 15th person; and read the entire thread to know if you are repeating anybody, if you cannot read the whole thread then you probably shouldn't be posting there. Thread Reviewed & Cleaned up to this point I appreciate some of you just posting in here to say "Nice service, keep it up.", but if I let those posts stay this thread would get messy, very quickly. I've deleted the rejected posts and the posts that I don't believe to be a contribution to what we're trying to accomplish in this thread. Thanks everyone who has participated so far.
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If you'd like to keep this going past the point where you run out of sMerit, you could make something like a spreadsheet (or just modify OP) where you could keep a list of undermerited posts. Other users could then come in and merit the posts on the list if they agreed with your evaluation, and then you could remove them from the spreadsheet.
(I've sent you some Merit for now so you can continue this though)
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January 29, 2018, 01:24:08 AM Last edit: January 29, 2018, 09:10:58 PM by bill gator |
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Every single one of these posts is in a mega-thread, I'm not going to even explain in-depth what is disappointing about these. I have Merited both of the threads above, because they're helpful and intriguing. I have my own reservations about Warren Buffet, and I tend to think that his quotes, wisdom and advice is more self-actualization than it is altruistic. Although if viewed through the proper lens the man has a lot to offer. The blockchain without cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency without blockchain post is a conversation I've had to have many times in the recent year or so because of so many companies try to hop on the train just to throw out a buzzword or two. I don't know enough about the alt-coins and ICO scene to really give you a fair analysis of these posts, so I'm sorry I won't be able to throw some merit at these. It would seem more likely that the person you're informing/helping would be able to hook you up. None of these are that helpful, it mostly seems like you're in one thread having a disagreement with another member. Not exactly something that I would find helpful, or think that very many others would find helpful. If you would like to get merit from people within that thread that may be appropriate, but unfortunately not from me. I will be watching this thread, and if I find the information to be integral, helpful and consistent then I will definitely pump some merit at it. I wanted to give the MEW scam accusation a merit, but I unfortunately am not sure how many people were helped by this post. It would seem that MEW probably got the message out to anyone that was interested, but I suppose if someone merits you for that thread then I would be proven wrong, eh? The other was a simple question, that has been asked many many times and discussed heavily. Strict verification is something that will freak everyone out around here, so even suggesting that sort of thing is taboo, AFAIK. It's again, a conversation that has been had many times, and the community seems to have settled that particular issue in the context you've brought it up in. I've given you Merit for this post, because my goodness is it long, informative, helpful and it gives a point-of-view we don't regularly get around here. It was a very interesting read, and for that you've earned it.
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January 29, 2018, 02:44:32 AM |
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Upon having a great conversation with one of my faucet users, I give a general understanding of raw impressions vs. unique impressions, break down the earning differences between CPM and CPC, and shed some light on how slim faucet profit margins are. Whether this post gets merited or not I would very much appreciate your feedback. Thank you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2274780.msg28221621#msg28221621
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January 29, 2018, 09:31:06 AM Last edit: January 29, 2018, 09:46:23 AM by Welsh |
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I do not have very much sMerit to go around, but I will be taking a look at the linked posts where you believe yourself (or others) to have posted helpful, informative, interesting or high-quality content that is undervalued merit-wise.
I'll also be taking a look at this thread occasionally and distributing the merit that I have. I would encourage anyone who has merit to do this too. Hopefully, with all of our merit combined it will help quality users progress. If you'd like to keep this going past the point where you run out of sMerit, you could make something like a spreadsheet (or just modify OP) where you could keep a list of undermerited posts. Other users could then come in and merit the posts on the list if they agreed with your evaluation, and then you could remove them from the spreadsheet.
(I've sent you some Merit for now so you can continue this though)
I quite like the idea of making it easily accessible for anyone viewing the thread. even if isn't a spreadsheet and is just a list of posts which you have been merited by OP but, are still under merited.
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January 29, 2018, 12:10:31 PM Last edit: January 31, 2018, 02:28:37 PM by bill gator |
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Not very interesting, extremely short and I'm not sure who is supposed to find this helpful, informative or high-quality; I just can't see how this post is deserving a merit. Feel free to try again with a better post. Your post about holding bitcoins and everyone talking about how they could've been a millionaire is nuanced and I enjoy it; it requires market movement, sales, transactions, etc. for bitcoin to grow, adopt and develop in the way that it has. Every transaction has played it's part, and it's nice to see you acknowledge, yeah we could've all held 1,000 coins, but we didn't. The posts about bounties and mining I didn't find particularly compelling, either. I have given this post Merit , because you definitely gave OP the information they were looking for without repeating the information that anyone else mentioned. It was short, concise, but it gave helpful information to the person that needed it, went above and beyond what they were asking and maybe even answered a question they didn't think to ask. Upon having a great conversation with one of my faucet users, I give a general understanding of raw impressions vs. unique impressions, break down the earning differences between CPM and CPC, and shed some light on how slim faucet profit margins are. Whether this post gets merited or not I would very much appreciate your feedback. Thank you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2274780.msg28221621#msg28221621I have given this post Merit, even though I don't normally give much credence to faucets. It seems like you're putting in the effort to inform everybody as well as possible, not just blowing off questions or "clients". I appreciate that you are trying to make faucets interesting and worth it, again, since lately they've been cancerous in my estimation. This would be a good way of helping the community here in talk especially for those people who kinda gets snub for their posts not being acknowledge by others as helpful or constructive posts. Now Op would you be considerate to have these post my to be reviewed and see if it does prove useful and constructive to you, I gladly appreciate your comment, thank you so much! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696465.msg29078633#msg29078633Your request to have that post reviewed is seemingly longer than the post you're asking to be reviewed. It is the 80+ reply to a mega-thread and it doesn't seem like there is much meaningful discussion taking place. I'm not giving merit to this post. I won't be giving either of these posts merit, because they are in very bland and boring threads that have been beat to death over the years with the same uninteresting discussions over and over again. They are almost mega-threads, without the mega, they have the generic, boring and uninteresting part down, but they are just missing the number of replies. I just don't think these kinda of threads are helpful or merit-deserving. No, I'll keep it short; This is in a mega-thread, does not share any unique information/opinion and is shorter than my morning piss.
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