A1exander
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January 25, 2018, 06:47:52 PM |
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I like the idea, but not how it has been implemented. Something like this was necessary to fight the tsunamy of spam, but they way it has been designed with a few exceptions nobody will ever rise in rank any more - they could have abolished the changing of rank all together. Would have been the same.
Exactly. It is essentially freezing of rankings. With the current implementation getting 90 or 150 points to rise to member or full member is impossible. I do not think it will be hard. It might not catch on right away but it will definitely pick up in the future once members realize it is vital to the community. The problem is that sMerit points are incredibly scarce. My present very rough estimate is that only 1 in 50 or 100 posts will get a merit point. So, several thousand posts to rank up to full member? It's ridiculous.
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athanz88 (OP)
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January 26, 2018, 06:23:13 AM |
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Come on guys, I need more voters to make infographic data, all ranks can vote and appreciated.
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long8899
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January 26, 2018, 07:14:41 AM |
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all I see is people who support this system is talking bad words, humiliate others
i am not gonna say my opinion here because a legendary said talking anything bad about the system will break the rule.
so I hope I don't break the rule.
but the truth is in everyone's mind
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Saveplus
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January 26, 2018, 08:47:59 AM |
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For me its hard,I feel bad because honestly I am not good in grammar but despite of that I want to spread my idea about bitcoin.Its hard to rank up,what you mean is more post to become a senior member oh thats not good.As for now we dont really mean what is merit but as for rules and regulations of bitcointalk all we have to do is to follow.
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shailkumari
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January 26, 2018, 09:07:19 AM |
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I think it is quite early to give a conclusion about this but I will post the merits and demerits as per my opinion:
Merits:
1) It is kind of exciting for me currently. I keep checking my merit page regularly to see if someone gave one. While making a post, it is in my mind that I have to be unique and helpful.
2) It will reduce the spam. This will be confirmed later with website stats easily.
3) Reduce the burden on mangers of signature campaigns. They have additional metric now Smerit to judge quality.
Demerits:
1) Admin and moderators may not be able to prevent selling of merits especially outside this forum.
2) People on the edge of new membership levels suffered a lot.
Overall it will benefit the forum.
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Deena
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January 26, 2018, 11:04:55 AM |
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all I see is people who support this system is talking bad words, humiliate others
i am not gonna say my opinion here because a legendary said talking anything bad about the system will break the rule.
so I hope I don't break the rule.
but the truth is in everyone's mind
Exactly. If I had merit points you would get some. Unfortunately the mobsters on top decided to advantage themselves and kicking down newer ones. And I cannot hand out merits.
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sheenshane
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January 26, 2018, 12:36:30 PM |
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I liked merit system made by sir theymos i hope it will works and without abusing on it. I saw now in every sections here in forum that many high ranks open a new topic that having with sense post i don't think if they are started collecting merits points. Before only newbie i saw making a nonsense new topic and some of them their post was deleted by moderators. Abusing is possible happen on merit system hopefully they will identify who abused of giving merits and be fair on giving merits not because that person was close to you or the same in signature campaign.
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hilariousetc
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January 26, 2018, 12:43:54 PM |
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I like the idea, but not how it has been implemented. Something like this was necessary to fight the tsunamy of spam, but they way it has been designed with a few exceptions nobody will ever rise in rank any more - they could have abolished the changing of rank all together. Would have been the same.
Exactly. It is essentially freezing of rankings. With the current implementation getting 90 or 150 points to rise to member or full member is impossible. I do not think it will be hard. It might not catch on right away but it will definitely pick up in the future once members realize it is vital to the community. The problem is that sMerit points are incredibly scarce. My present very rough estimate is that only 1 in 50 or 100 posts will get a merit point. So, several thousand posts to rank up to full member? It's ridiculous. The more great posts you make the higher chance you have of getting points. This system is to stop people just posting pages and pages of one liners made solely just to rank up. Now these people will get nowhere by doing that. For me its hard,I feel bad because honestly I am not good in grammar but despite of that I want to spread my idea about bitcoin.Its hard to rank up,what you mean is more post to become a senior member oh thats not good.As for now we dont really mean what is merit but as for rules and regulations of bitcointalk all we have to do is to follow.
Make posts in your local board if this is an issue to you. It's not only English speaking users that are going to be giving merit points out. all I see is people who support this system is talking bad words, humiliate others
i am not gonna say my opinion here because a legendary said talking anything bad about the system will break the rule.
so I hope I don't break the rule.
but the truth is in everyone's mind
Exactly. If I had merit points you would get some. Unfortunately the mobsters on top decided to advantage themselves and kicking down newer ones. And I cannot hand out merits. You would give out merits for nothing? Maybe this is a good reason why you don't have any and they have to be earned over time.
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Don Pedro Dinero
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January 26, 2018, 12:50:36 PM |
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I think Theymos could have implemented a simpler solution to deal with spam but this new system will definitely reduce it. There will be small cheating, though, and it won’t be 100% perfect, but it will do the trick.
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A1exander
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January 26, 2018, 01:48:36 PM |
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I like the idea, but not how it has been implemented. Something like this was necessary to fight the tsunamy of spam, but they way it has been designed with a few exceptions nobody will ever rise in rank any more - they could have abolished the changing of rank all together. Would have been the same.
Exactly. It is essentially freezing of rankings. With the current implementation getting 90 or 150 points to rise to member or full member is impossible. I do not think it will be hard. It might not catch on right away but it will definitely pick up in the future once members realize it is vital to the community. The problem is that sMerit points are incredibly scarce. My present very rough estimate is that only 1 in 50 or 100 posts will get a merit point. So, several thousand posts to rank up to full member? It's ridiculous. The more great posts you make the higher chance you have of getting points. This system is to stop people just posting pages and pages of one liners made solely just to rank up. Now these people will get nowhere by doing that. It would be an excellent idea if sMerit points were not so scarce. The chances are tiny. Good quality posts will be buried in large volume of typical ones. I've got 5 sMerit points and I will probably spend then when getting some good answers for my (mostly technical) questions. Then I will have none. Sometimes I answer questions, but it often happens in the "Beginners & Help" subforum, and Newbies don't have sMerits to send me. sMerit sources? They are too few. So why even bother? I'm not sure this system can stop spam. New members can try to get 10 points by quantity, not quality. 10 points is a lot, maybe it will take a month to get 1 point, but it seems to be doable. 150 points in any reasonable amount of time is impossible.
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yojodojo21
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January 26, 2018, 02:00:33 PM |
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It's very natural to see that there are pros and cons about this new feature. Even myself is convinced that the power is from the admin itself he know what to do with his site. I am also affected with this merit. However I will just accept the reality that this happen for improvement of each individual by making this forum be better.
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Deena
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January 26, 2018, 02:49:33 PM |
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You would give out merits for nothing? Maybe this is a good reason why you don't have any and they have to be earned over time.
His post was brilliant. Finaly someone who refuses to place his lips on the Legendary's buttocks. Very merit worthy to my estimation.
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Thirio
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January 26, 2018, 03:07:23 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
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TMAN
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January 26, 2018, 03:10:20 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
I have given you 4 merits - post in my other thread and come back in a week - consistently post as you have been and I will top you up to 10. some people need a chance, so Ill give you one. but if there are any posts moaning about merits or any shitposts I wont be topping you up to 10.
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Thirio
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January 26, 2018, 04:00:35 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
I have given you 4 merits - post in my other thread and come back in a week - consistently post as you have been and I will top you up to 10. some people need a chance, so Ill give you one. but if there are any posts moaning about merits or any shitposts I wont be topping you up to 10. Does this mean i am eligible to your TMAN's challenge? If that's the case monitor me, i guarantee you i always post things that i have in mind and that things are not shit.
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lok8nusa
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January 26, 2018, 04:02:06 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
I have given you 4 merits - post in my other thread and come back in a week - consistently post as you have been and I will top you up to 10. some people need a chance, so Ill give you one. but if there are any posts moaning about merits or any shitposts I wont be topping you up to 10. I like that, TMAN. Very civil gesture. Since I don't monetize off the forum, I'm mostly neutral on the new merit system (it has generated more threads and posts, not necessarily of quality) and basically indifferent, now. I just came here to learn a bit, share a little knowledge (if I have it), and pass some time.
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TMAN
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January 26, 2018, 04:02:18 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
I have given you 4 merits - post in my other thread and come back in a week - consistently post as you have been and I will top you up to 10. some people need a chance, so Ill give you one. but if there are any posts moaning about merits or any shitposts I wont be topping you up to 10. Does this mean i am eligible to your TMAN's challenge? If that's the case monitor me, i guarantee you i always post things that i have in mind and that things are not shit. yes fella - post in the thread so I remember who you are..
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January 26, 2018, 04:50:59 PM |
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For the most part i hate it. I was just a skip ahead till i become a member yet i can't be one. I understand that the admin did this to push members to post quality posts. But reminder, there are still low ranks who dont shit post, but will be affected by the merit system. If it is so hard for us to be noticed, what more to be given a merit?
I have given you 4 merits - post in my other thread and come back in a week - consistently post as you have been and I will top you up to 10. some people need a chance, so Ill give you one. but if there are any posts moaning about merits or any shitposts I wont be topping you up to 10. I like that, TMAN. Very civil gesture. Since I don't monetize off the forum, I'm mostly neutral on the new merit system (it has generated more threads and posts, not necessarily of quality) and basically indifferent, now. I just came here to learn a bit, share a little knowledge (if I have it), and pass some time. Yes is nice to be an neutral compared to against their implemented rules, now i clearly understand about merit system. I strongly agreed with this new featured merit system that all member here in forum to push them selves to post quality post in forum not to spam or shit poster. Hopefully these new system now did not abused to others. I have some question sir merit system may abuse? how to determined that they abusing on merit?
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vlom
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January 26, 2018, 07:34:59 PM |
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to sum it up. in a few days i won't care anymore.
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TMAN
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January 26, 2018, 08:05:27 PM |
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to sum it up. in a few days i won't care anymore.
you should care buddy, if it helps fight the spam and people start thinking about posts more. it just makes the whole forum a better place to be.
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