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January 26, 2018, 03:07:26 PM
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Lauda, I found another Bug
I reported it to theymos , thank you.



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January 26, 2018, 03:12:47 PM
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...
to show my sincerity.
I deleted the messages, but Merit remains.

...

I wonder whether this sudden change of heart and this
display of your sincerity was caused by the trust rating that
MadZ left on your account.

Besides, the merits that you received don´t look like genuine merits at
all, because most of them were received within a timespan of 3 minutes.

You literally received 154 merits within 180 seconds.

Seems legit.

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January 25, 2018, 06:00:37 PM: 20 from dakota neat for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:00:14 PM: 20 from torikan for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:59:06 PM: 30 from torikan for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:58:40 PM: 27 from ikm for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:58:18 PM: 27 from dnz gns for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:57:50 PM: 30 from dakota neat for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

edit:
Coincidentally, the users that gave merit to you are also mentioned in a previous
trust rating by Lauda:
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Accounts connected: torikan (uuid = 859512), dakota neat (uuid = 343531), ikm (uuid = 912598),
dnz gns (uuid = 911945), temmuz (uuid = 911706).
Abusing signature/bounty campaigns.

Interesting.



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January 26, 2018, 03:18:26 PM
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...
to show my sincerity.
I deleted the messages, but Merit remains.

...

I wonder whether this sudden change of heart and this
display of your sincerity was caused by the trust rating that
MadZ left on your account.

Besides, the merits that you received don´t look like genuine merits at
all, because most of them were received within a timespan of 3 minutes.

You literally received 154 merits within 180 seconds.

Seems legit.





my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.


In local merit topic this guy actually report this issue to theymos. Also in local topic,people start to complain about him and he send a screenshot about it. Here is the message, so i don't know now he is abusing or not but this is a serious issue.

Bazı arkadaşlar 150 merit birden arttırdı. Bu kadar meriti kim kaybetti de siz buldunuz? Bazı şeyleri çaktırmadan yapın işin sonunda Türk topluluğuna zarar veriyorsunuz.

lauda'nın negatif trust'ından anlaşılmıyor mu durum ? Cheesy


dimi Cheesy ancak fark etmediğinzi bir durum var!
bu bug teymosa rapor ettim Smiley




laudayı etiketleseydin daha iyi olurdu Cheesy bakarsın msj bakıp + trust verir

Merit looks high.
I found the reason for this bug.
I reported theymos issue.





sorry Merit does not delete it.




Read the date of messages first.



edit: I guess you have not noticed with that amazing intelligence.
Merit receipt report with banned memberships.those memberships do not already exist. Smiley
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January 26, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
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OP, get a job. It's is basically not your business how anyone spends their merit.

You are just upset that I called out your alts, or "friends" I am sad to see that they have not been tagged yet



rent my signature just PM me, or pay me to not post ;P
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January 26, 2018, 03:24:54 PM
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...

my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .

...

I read the entire thread* and am well aware of your history.
I just don´t understand how you could have discovered this bug
without using 4 different accounts for that. If I understand
your bug report correctly you need other accounts in order for
that bug to occur at all.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

*I don´t understand Turkish therefore I can´t comment on
the content of the quoted post in the Turkish local section.
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January 26, 2018, 03:32:20 PM
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...
to show my sincerity.
I deleted the messages, but Merit remains.

...

I wonder whether this sudden change of heart and this
display of your sincerity was caused by the trust rating that
MadZ left on your account.

Besides, the merits that you received don´t look like genuine merits at
all, because most of them were received within a timespan of 3 minutes.

You literally received 154 merits within 180 seconds.

Seems legit.





my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.


In local merit topic this guy actually report this issue to theymos. Also in local topic,people start to complain about him and he send a screenshot about it. Here is the message, so i don't know now he is abusing or not but this is a serious issue.

Bazı arkadaşlar 150 merit birden arttırdı. Bu kadar meriti kim kaybetti de siz buldunuz? Bazı şeyleri çaktırmadan yapın işin sonunda Türk topluluğuna zarar veriyorsunuz.

lauda'nın negatif trust'ından anlaşılmıyor mu durum ? Cheesy


dimi Cheesy ancak fark etmediğinzi bir durum var!
bu bug teymosa rapor ettim Smiley




laudayı etiketleseydin daha iyi olurdu Cheesy bakarsın msj bakıp + trust verir

Merit looks high.
I found the reason for this bug.
I reported theymos issue.





sorry Merit does not delete it.




Read the date of messages first.



edit: I guess you have not noticed with that amazing intelligence.
Merit receipt report with banned memberships.those memberships do not already exist. Smiley

Two things.

1. You could have easily prove there is a bug by sending 1 merit to your own account. No one would have even noticed that, by the way. Instead you decided to send yourself the maximum merit on 4 accounts. This was purely for your own gain, not bug testing.
2. You're admitting to ban evasion and this account should be banned as well. Well done.

I am not changing my feedback on this matter.
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January 26, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
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...

my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .

...

I read the entire thread* and am well aware of your history.
I just don´t understand how you could have discovered this bug
without using 4 different accounts for that. If I understand
your bug report correctly you need other accounts in order for
that bug to occur at all.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

*I don´t understand Turkish therefore I can´t comment on
the content of the quoted post in the Turkish local section.



I have a special reason for this
I wanted to show all my memberships because the ban given to the ban is unfair.
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January 26, 2018, 03:36:34 PM
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...

my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .

...

I read the entire thread* and am well aware of your history.
I just don´t understand how you could have discovered this bug
without using 4 different accounts for that. If I understand
your bug report correctly you need other accounts in order for
that bug to occur at all.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

*I don´t understand Turkish therefore I can´t comment on
the content of the quoted post in the Turkish local section.



I have a special reason for this
I wanted to show all my memberships because the ban given to the ban is unfair.

Why not just give yourself 1 merit point then and not a whole bunch

rent my signature just PM me, or pay me to not post ;P
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January 26, 2018, 03:38:09 PM
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Two things.

1. You could have easily prove there is a bug by sending 1 merit to your own account. No one would have even noticed that, by the way. Instead you decided to send yourself the maximum merit on 4 accounts. This was purely for your own gain, not bug testing.
2. You're admitting to ban evasion and this account should be banned as well. Well done.

I am not changing my feedback on this matter.

your opinion is not important to me
  I am already clear open.
I am a very old member, I do not need this situation to win Merit.
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January 26, 2018, 03:40:16 PM
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...

my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .

...

I read the entire thread* and am well aware of your history.
I just don´t understand how you could have discovered this bug
without using 4 different accounts for that. If I understand
your bug report correctly you need other accounts in order for
that bug to occur at all.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

*I don´t understand Turkish therefore I can´t comment on
the content of the quoted post in the Turkish local section.



I have a special reason for this
I wanted to show all my memberships because the ban given to the ban is unfair.

Why not just give yourself 1 merit point then and not a whole bunch


could not try the explanation principle. I do not know how much I can give. I wrote the highest number.
but it is normal to doubt this.
I certainly do not criticize this behavior. I would think the same.


but it does not attract your attention at all.
there is no one who can comment on this issue.
I had no real bad intentions.
I do not know how to prove it.
I will be able to eng this

Cheesy
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January 26, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
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could not try the explanation principle. I do not know how much I can give. I wrote the highest number.
but it is normal to doubt this.
I certainly do not criticize this behavior. I would think the same.

I´ll explain why I think that your behavior is suspicious.
You test your assumption with the highest number and see that it works and you have
found a possible bug. Afterwards you login with yet another account and do
the same thing - again with the highest possible number. Instead of stopping you do the same
process an additional two times with two different accounts.

If you were doing this solely for the purpose of detecting bugs with the merit
system you would have stopped after the very first successful attempt at
verifying your assumption.


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January 26, 2018, 03:46:03 PM
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could not try the explanation principle. I do not know how much I can give. I wrote the highest number.
but it is normal to doubt this.
I certainly do not criticize this behavior. I would think the same.

I´ll explain why I think that your behavior is suspicious.
You test your assumption with the highest number and see that it works and you have
found a possible bug. Afterwards you login with yet another account and do
the same thing - again with the highest possible number. Instead of stopping you do the same
process an additional two times with two different accounts.

If you were doing this solely for the purpose of detecting bugs with the merit
system you would have stopped after the very first successful attempt at
verifying your assumption.





I'm not criticizing your comments.
but there is a situation like this. I have reported this issue before anyone else noticed it.


Find an answer to this situation!


besides, the headline here is probably among the messages that are already left in place and are forgotten.
but I heard the explanation at the end and I try to tell the people here.

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January 26, 2018, 03:49:26 PM
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Tagged a couple users. Either for merit farming or for shitposting. They're usually interconnected anyway Wink
Just laugh to "Smart-Abusers".

Evil Cycle V2.0 is released.
"Main Account - Need Merit - Smurf Account Send Merit - Main Account Get Merit - Another Smurf Account Send It Again - Main Account Have Many Merit - Get Higher Rank - Do Shitposting in many threads, Spamming to reach Post Requirements (Sig. Camp) - Get Tackled by DT Team - Butthurt - Make New Main Account - Back to 1st Cycle Again. How astonishing that was.  Huh Grin"

Greedy people do many tricks to achieve what they want, and yah... Bold People will cut it off

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January 26, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
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Doesn't work with random people.

I'm sure they don't feel 'random' about themselves and you may look pretty random from where I am. What now? Should we do official random/special forum members classification?

And ere you seriously threatening a guy with red-trust for "defamation" when all he did was to apply the same rules to you/aTriz as are being applied to other members?
No? Read the user's exactly wording, then read my wording ('deserve').

I dunno, sounds pretty threatening. If you think that someone "deserves" red-trust, why would you stop yourself from doing that? You're essentially saying that you already have justification for red-tagging them and you're willing to use it.
The guy you replied to already have red-trust from you, so it won't work here, but your post can act as a nice little deterrent to anyone who would want to ever criticise you.

Fuck integrity I guess.
You are standing on the wrong side, easily being played by alts of people that I busted.

Oh am I now? I don't care who akram143/playboy654 are, whatever the (personal) reason behind that post was, the point could still be valid.
I'm leaning in favour of tagging unusual sMerit donations, but what your special, totally-non-random intellect refuses to comprehend is that you're making it much harder for the taggers.
Now they either have to admit the lack of integrity in their actions and having personal preferences in what is 'taggable' and what isn't. Or go through the mental gymnastics in explaining why it's OK for Lauda to send sMerits to whoever the fuck he wants, while some Russian guy will be tagged for doing exactly the same.

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January 26, 2018, 03:59:58 PM
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I'm sure they don't feel 'random' about themselves and you may look pretty random from where I am.
What they feel is irrelevant for the taggers, those users are random.

What now? Should we do official random/special forum members classification?
This has been the case with pretty much every society/community, and has been the case here for years. Have you been living under a rock?

I dunno, sounds pretty threatening. If you think that someone "deserves" red-trust, why would you stop yourself from doing that? You're essentially saying that you already have justification for red-tagging them and you're willing to use it.
It's mockery. Your language skills weren't sufficient to pick it up. Usually I use a mockery meme, but then social justice warriors like Quickscammer complain about that too.

The guy you replied to already have red-trust from you, so it won't work here, but your post can act as a nice little deterrent to anyone who would want to ever criticise you.
Bullshit =/= Criticism.

I'm leaning in favour of tagging unusual sMerit donations, but what your special, totally-non-random intellect refuses to comprehend is that you're making it much harder for the taggers.
That's exactly the point when you introduce a complex system instead of using simple tools to combat spam.

Now they either have to admit the lack of integrity in their actions and having personal preferences in what is 'taggable' and what isn't. Or go through the mental gymnastics in explaining why it's OK for Lauda to send sMerits to whoever the fuck he wants, while some Russian guy will be tagged for doing exactly the same.
I can send sMerit to whoever I want[1], whenever I want, for whatever reason as long as it is not selling of the points or some sort of weird *trading*. Welcome to liberalism which I believe theymos supports (a ideology which I hate FYI).

[1] Alt rings and similar farming are excluded, by since I used the wording "I" this does not apply here.
[2] Replace "I" with "You" and you get the same thing.
[3] The Russian guy will be tagged because he is a random shitposter, and has not proven that he can be trusted with 20k satoshie let alone 20 merit points.

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January 26, 2018, 04:21:20 PM
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May i add this one on list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818404.msg28927677#msg28927677

This user were given 50 merits and 36 merits and it looks like they were connected to each other Cean give leonbtc 50 merits then leonbtc gave cean 18 merits then neo give leonbtc 36 merits then leonbtc sent it back to neo with 31 merits

Accounts Connected:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035345
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=756570
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1018920
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January 26, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
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May i add this one on list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818404.msg28927677#msg28927677

This user were given 50 merits and 36 merits

This looks like a possible swap of merit points (or the accounts
are connected):

Quote
Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 12:31:21 AM: 18 to Cean for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
Today at 12:20:11 AM: 31 to Neo-- for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Received in the last 120 days
Today at 12:30:16 AM: 36 from Neo-- for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 11:50:56 PM: 50 from Cean for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Another user where the same incident happened:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81995

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Sent in the last 120 days
January 25, 2018, 03:54:44 PM: 20 to fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 03:31:58 PM: 20 to petrcoin for Re: Зaпpeщaть биткoин yжe бecпoлeзнo

Received in the last 120 days
January 25, 2018, 06:58:33 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:57:09 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:55:23 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:53:45 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:53:33 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:53:21 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:27:24 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:25:07 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:24:57 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:24:42 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:24:26 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:21:57 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:21:48 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:20:34 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:20:19 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:53:13 PM: 1 from fxpc for Re: Фeдepaльныe кaнaлы o кpиптoвaлютe
January 25, 2018, 05:52:54 PM: 1 from fxpc for Re: Зaпpeщaть биткoин yжe бecпoлeзнo
January 25, 2018, 05:52:36 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:51:30 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 05:51:03 PM: 1 from fxpc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 11:51:50 AM: 20 from petrcoin for Re: Фeдepaльныe кaнaлы o кpиптoвaлютe

He received 20 merits from petrcoin and gave 20 merits to petrcoin.
He also received 20 merits from fxpc (in 1 merit increments) and gave him
back 20 merits as well.




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January 26, 2018, 06:33:33 PM
 #78

Another instance of a merit swap (or potentially connected accounts):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=914767

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Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 03:10:56 PM: 50 to jooj for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Received in the last 120 days
Today at 05:46:57 PM: 50 from jooj for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 11:04:38 PM: 50 from hoop for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

User wnj4 sent 50 merits to jooj and received 50 merits in return.
Both users also received 50 merits each from another user
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290351).

If anyone has doubts that these are not genuinely awarded merits, just
take a look at one of the posts that has received 50 merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2247571.msg28853951#msg28853951



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January 26, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
Merited by TryNinja (1)
 #79

SUGGESTION:

Just for the readability of the OP with all the reports. A tabular form would be appropriate for this, just like in the [User Generated] - Known alts of anyone by Lauda. (I got the idea there) I cannot get the codes there since the thread is locked but I tried to create my own code. Please feel free to modify the code below since I am not good at this.

Sample Output:
Accounts Involved|Proofs|Notes|Submitted by
Accounts that abused the Merit System here|Proofs link here|Side notes here|Contributor here

Code:
Code:
[table]
     [tr]
          [td][b]Accounts Involved[/b][/td]
          [td]|[b]Proofs[/b][/td]
          [td]|[b]Notes[/b][/td]
          [td]|[b]Submitted by[/b][/td]
     [/tr]
     [tr]
          [td]Accounts that abused the Merit System here[/td]
          [td]|Proofs link here[/td]
          [td]|Side notes here[/td]
          [td]|Contributor here[/td]
     [/tr]
[/table]

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January 26, 2018, 08:08:03 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2018, 08:58:07 PM by johhnyUA
 #80

Another legendary merit seller and trust farmer  Grin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827299.0



Farming:


Translated:
"*specific russian term*
Here everyone asking about Merit but i need Trust.
Exchanging your good Trust for mine."


 
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