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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911706

^The user already has negative for account farming so why wouldn't they be abusing it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2172812.msg21784123#msg21784123


^User has +50 and is looking to buy a hero member account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1001712
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1001712

^Only posts in the not english boards, none of their opening topics have any +merit.
^^ As you can see, they give merit and they get it  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096416.msg21951659#msg21951659
^Does that message really deserve 41 merit?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052553

^all these low member accounts are all foreign with high merits

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823148.msg28920370#msg28920370

^28 merit for that post, really? and the account that gave it to them already has +50 merit.. that isnt odd or anything

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2559778.msg28914349#msg28914349

^Looks like user traded merit with the accounts that left them merit

^^Proof here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1007695


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2663875.msg28808144#msg28808144
Suspect

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2777940.msg28766456#msg28766456

^Only took a few minutes for this guy to send merit to the guy that sent him merit


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=915311

^Sends merit to users and they repay the favor

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Shit posts that are getting tons of merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=850811

^Trading merit with HypNoSE

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=943918

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=999147

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=923435

^Trading merit with aliyagiz207

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1127307

^Got a LOT of merit from HappyS for shit posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Trading merit with Yury1, and Ekaterinat


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=28147

^Giving the max amount of merit to multiple users for posts that are a few sentences

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1052765

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=888613

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=934304

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

^Giving away 50 merit to users like its candy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600

^Trading with alt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1018920
^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=925537

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1035345

^REALLY ABUSING THE MERIT

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1419378

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=343375
^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1277896

^Trading merit Linked with one the above this one... has 4 accounts total at least

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=21178

^Looks like that guy is using merit instead of using the trust feedback

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097334.msg28228601#msg28228601

^That post doesnt deserve 50 merit,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2824893.0

^Selling merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1035345

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=756570

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1419378

^Being given merit for no reason

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1018920

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=112286

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=181084

^Trading merit


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81995

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=569455

^Trading merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.msg28973555#msg28973555

^Google translates roughly to its not easy to get merit, and he got a shit ton of merit, (Dont think he should be tagged,)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=305366

^This user gave 4 people 50 merit if you look in the thread its basically just russians giving merit to themselves

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234915
^Tried to sell merit Proof below

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.msg28994465#msg28994465



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513294

^Gave all his merit to 2 crappy accounts with crappy posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252477
^probably boosting his alt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=388221
^LEGENDARY SELLING MERIT, TAG HIM AND ALL THE PEOPLE HE SENT MERIT TOO FOR SHITTY POSTS?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=174460

^You give me merit I give you merit type of guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=863567


^You give me merit I give you merit type of guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1201858

^looks like he bought merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1072601

^Bought merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=305366

^selling merit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=743671

^gave 25 merit to a one word response


FROM HERE DOWN, THESE ARE FROM THIS THREAD THAT OTHER USERS FOUND/POSTED FEBRUARY 6 2018

Theymos just announced the new function about Merit points and he got a lot of sMerits so why not ? What is the point ?

The point is that it looks a bit fishy that someone has gained merits for fairly normal posts. Merits for posts that are very useful, helpful or good quality. Not post that other users probably have also made to a similar quality before (especially anything above 10 to give for a single post).

It does seem very quickly that people have started to abuse the system already.

Tagged. You should watch this user, i.e. where exactly he is going to send his sMerit to.

Is there something in place to show where a user sends merit too? I do not think so yet,

Also, can you explain how you break down someone's long post into little snips that are little quote blocks?

I havn't been able to figure out a way to do it quickly

Yeah. Just found it myself; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=408367

replace the u= with the actual user id that you want to track.


Edit: It looks like its in the user's profile under post count now. Woo admins!

You can also click their username on a post [or go to their profile page] and the merit title has a hyperlink that takes you there.

Also, with breaking up the quote, you copy the bit of code at the top and end each section of the quote with [ / quote ]. I think that's the only way to do it.

Tagged a couple users. Either for merit farming or for shitposting. They're usually interconnected anyway ;)

I should find a better way to format the OP so it is more clear Ill work on that shortly, however he is another one


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=915311

Interestingly, since bluefircorp has posted the Merits summary for Killyou72 you'll notice that Killyou72 has received Merits from Killyou73.

Aren't Killyou72 and Killyou73 alts for the same person? If so, Killyou has abused the Merit system.

I wanted to see how it worked, didn't understand the way it was written.

It would have been abusing if I left 70 merit from killyou72 onto killyou73

That's a plausible explanation, but why did you leave yourself 6 merit instead of just 1 for the test?

I don't think this needs to go further. I think it's valuable to be acknowledging where people are clearly abusing the system. What we should also be focused on is keeping this thread from becoming a witch hunt.

We shouldn't be hunting for people that might be abusing, we should be publicly outing people that clearly are abusing, repeatedly.

Especially given that you can only give 50 merit to an individual  :P

Yikes... is it just me or does the merit system seem like it might worsen the account-farming problem even further.
I don't see myself randomly meriting posts, even if they are helpful. So account farmers would have a much easier time gaining merit on their accounts than regular users...

Is that true? I thought you could only give 50 PER POST.


Because of the whole half merit thing, initially I thought that when you gave merit you lost it, and that I could just delete my post and the merit would go away, or I could remove it like trust. Maybe that feature will be added.

Its really easy to find the merit farmers just look at the recent merit given 

Killyou, you can only give one person 50 merits per month.



I don't think it will. The existing accounts wishing to create/farm alt accounts will have to burn a lot of their sMerits just to get their new account to a Member level. The cost is clearly not worth the benefit.

This merit system will help Newbies and the rest of us learn what the community feels is a merit-worthy contribution. This is going to be a great thing!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=290351

Here's another one to add to your list. Sent maximum merit to two users for no discernible reason.

I must have updated the list right as you posted it because I already had it but thank you for helping!

Must've been the case, I didn't see his profile before I replied. Anyway, I assume you're looking at this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent) as well if you're so fast. Thanks for keeping this list updated, although I'm not sure what can be done besides name and shaming abusers. Do you think something like this warrants negative trust?

I suspect this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600 mutually exchanges the sMerit points with his alts.

Yes I am looking at the list, and Yeah I do think it warrents negative trust because it defeats the whole purpose if people are just going to farm it



Ill add it to the list

False. Account farming is more difficult. You would have to trickle down merit from your larger accounts (and for that matter you need quite a significant amount to rank up). And because it is public, the abuse can be tracked down and the accounts will be negged.

this is true, account farming is more difficult due to new merit requirement for ranking up
new accounts don't generate merits, even current higher rank's merits will be used up fast in no time
there is no way for account farmer to do it easily unless he has several high level rank accounts actively posting and receiving merits

and the available merits are scarce and possibly getting rarer because a few things such as:
- trickle down effect in sMerit points
- only a few select unknown merit sources with limited merits to spread around
- the generousity of merit sources to spread it around
- decaying (implemented yet?) merit points unused by some users

note: Happy Birthday actmyname,
if today's really your birthday as shown on your profile  :D
https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bdaycake.gif

He just turned 15!!! Happy birthday!

In a year, there will be a ton of people with thousands of merit points its just getting there

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=412599 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=412599)

User albert11 sent 50 merit to Cornhub, an account that has 65 posts and is at Member rank.

The best part (to prove abuse) is that it was the following post:

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Killyou, do you want help maintaining this list? I'd be happy to help.

I am not judging here or what but base on His received merits smells too fishy. Mister K had given Him 1 each per post. And look at the time interval of two given merits in a two different post? Isn't that unusual?

They're starting to do expected things.

-edited
Alt account detected mister k and kenzawak give merits to each other in the same thread.

It hasn't even been 72 hours and already some people have started abusing the merit system and finding ways to rank up easily as they were doing earlier. If I find any such accounts I'll make sure to attach his/her profile link in this particular thread and do my part of helping to keep the forum clean.

Are we going to tag users for abusing the merits system? Or should admins go straight to banning suspected accounts? Either option works

Start by tagging them, the forum administration is slow.

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OP, you really need to work on a better, table-like, layout. As it currently stands, it is just a mess and hard to keep track of.

I'm tagging users who are especially blatant, such as temmuz. As long as there is proof the accounts in question belong to themselves, it is the same thing as sending yourself positive trust.

it is probably a very good thing i dont have any say in the matter.... i would go straight to banning: reason: if they put so much effort into evading and working against the system then  god knows the truth behind anything else they do. to abuse the merit system is the exact reason why all these measures have been put in place.certainly it is a very good thing that there are level headed people in charge of this site and most of the campaigns cuz if it were up to me?  well lets say i am a tad bit to brutal and straight to the point for most people to even handle! tagging them is like the 3 strikes your back to square one and find another way to sidestep the sitewide rules!, ..or.. when they find out that abusing the system gets them knocked down to start over and it will be really hard to get up again they will think many times over before they even try the second time... IMHO

Yes they are! Me and rizzlarolla tried to find some of the accounts that were connected to farming 2 years ago. We were shocked to find so many of them.

If you can, please look at these lists and tag those accounts after verifying them yourself. Some of them may have already been sold. But I reckon the accounts that have the same post count and activity count are still under the control of the farmers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0

In local merit topic this guy actually report this issue to theymos. Also in local topic,people start to complain about him and he send a screenshot about it. Here is the message, so i don't know now he is abusing or not but this is a serious issue.

What if the merit system will be use in other purpose? Example: someone really hates me a lot then make tweetbit1 account and merit my post just to use as an evidence against me for having an alt account or account farming or do multiple account for this ultimate purpose. This can also ruin one innocent account. Leave an opinion what you think about it. #throlling

That’s a pretty good point there

Hi OP,I have some big cats for you,surely they abused the merit system so they also deserves negative trust.Highly untrustworthiness from them.The source is below

It's an A-->B linkage, not an A<-->B linkage. Therefore, anything negative should apply to the person that is giving the merit away. After checking and ensuring (with a high probability) that the other is indeed an alt of the sender, then you tag them and connect the accounts with an A<-->B linkage.

I think the merit system is still being developed and there must be another benchmark that can determine it real or fake. We all here must be worried about what you say, it could happen and we just wait for how there is an appropriate reference to strengthen the merit into an accurate benchmark.

Thanks for the answer actmyname, but still confused. I made a new thread on Meta for the same concern so that everyone will be aware of this possible scenario that can be a big problem sooner. I hope the number of DT is enough for this, if my fear came to reality.

Update : I’ve got my answer already, Brand new accounts have zero merit for that purpose and already locked the thread I made.

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so apologies if this is already included.

This guy is number 4 in the merit awards.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108331

I don´t think this qualifies as abuse.

Look at the thread for that he received nearly all of his merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818398.msg28857585#msg28857585

It basically is a Russian FAQ for the new merit system and people obviously appreciate
this information. If you look at the top-merited recent topics you will see that
out of the top 10 topics more than half of the topics are related to the new
merit system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toptopics).

The merit for lauda I see it has it doesn't matter because they are all ready legendary and aTriz made a great post that is formatted nicly

Is there anything that the admins can do with this shitty users abusing the merit system? I suggest for a temporary or permanent ban if it is proven that this users are really abusing the merit system. Its unfair for us who are striving to post high quality posts in order to get some merits. Although I commend the OP because he/she saw this abusers abusing the merit system.

Absolute bullshit. The amount of merit that each of us deserves is within thousands, and you complain about double digit numbers. ::) If anyone deserves negative trust, it is you for your defamatory nonsense.

I could merit him or anyone comparable on random posts and it wouldn't be close to *abuse*. E.g., this is a perfectly valid post to merit:

Lol, "great post". Bro, check my topic i have more usefull and great posts. Will Lauda merit me with +20?
You're just trying to clean them. It's unfair.

I don't merit randoms[1] as I'm not a source, especially not those that post in Russian.

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[1] Exceptions apply.

OP, get a job. It's is basically not your business how anyone spends their merit.

You just "burning" smerit sending it to your friends. Sorry, but i don't think that it's good idea. I mean in such numbers like +20, +50 .   :-\

BUTTHURT...

Lauda admitted to not being a source.. so they will burn through the merits they have like I will.. so what if I turned around and gave lauda a cheeky fidy??

I respect them and I love the way they bash Tards.. would that make me a farmer/Multiaccounter/whatever the new word is for being a merit whore?

Which is perfectly fine. If I want to let my sMerit decay to 0, that is also fine. Since this forum has libtard policies, then it is my freedom to choose whether to: a) Send sMerits to "friends". b) Send sMerits to randoms. c) Send to nobody. d) Whatever.

50 is the send limit for a particular user per month, a nice and round number to give. Sending me merit can never account for farming nor abuse as >1k merit is useless anyways. aTriz, on the other hand, will need more merit to rank up. The +20 is actually not enough given the results of the campaign that I created and I escrow. ::)

That will be taken for sure. If someone is doing that repetitively on useless posts, that is a clear indication of his intentions. You should report them.

What if some body is using merits to rape young and beautiful runaway teenager girls? they are vulnerable, all it takes is for you to slap them in the face, and they will submit to you, we don't want that here, we prefer to pay a professional lady for our jumping purposes.
Look at the links in the OP, idiots were given merits to (deleted/off limits/ignored).

Merit looks high.
I found the reason for this bug.
I reported theymos issue.


https://i.hizliresim.com/Lbg7QZ.png


sorry Merit does not delete it.

aTriz gave Lauda 50 merit for this post :


What was so meritorious about this post that aTriz  gave 5 + 45 merit to Lauda (the maximum that aTriz could award anyone)? Either they are alt of each other(they also run a service together), or if they are not alts of each other then they are trying to conserve merit withing themselves and create extra 50% merit points? Who does that except for alts?

Or if suppose 1% they are not alts, then wouldnt this be merit abuse?  Creating 50% more merit by sending your close relatives / work oartners merit. If trust abuse is a thing then merit abuse should also be tagged.

Read the thread before shitposting, that was already posted above and is just a failed smear attempt.

How is that, whatever you are saying, relevant to this thread? Are you trying to *defend* your actions? Why are you posting if you have banned accounts?

Being abully doesnt always anwer questions. Bullying someone for giving them a negative trust just because they questioned your merit isnt valid.
You didnt answer anything above.
Why did those posts deserve thousands of merit?
Its hillarious to see alts telling each other that they deserve much more merit points.
What you are doing is shit posting. Bullying is shitposting. Just because you are in DT2 doesnt make you a boss around here.

And you two couldn't at least pick a "deserving" posts to up-merit? If you want to appreciate someone for his general contribution to the community, I'm sure you can find at least one posts that proves that positive contribution.
Now every Russian tagged for merit-abuse can use you as an example and defend themselves with: "I know his post was shitty, but I rewarded him for his overall contribution".

And ere you seriously threatening a guy with red-trust for "defamation" when all he did was to apply the same rules to you/aTriz as are being applied to other members? Fuck integrity I guess.

If I wanted a benefit from it. I would not have done such an experiment anyway.
If there is a correction, describe it.

to show my sincerity.
I deleted the messages, but Merit remains.

https://i.hizliresim.com/rO8By1.png

Reasons your intellect can't comprehend.

Nope.

The post I made, attack the whining and making a sarcastic comment about that genius, is great. I would have merited myself if I could.

Which I did, with the post that aTriz received 20 merit for.

Doesn't work with random people.

No? Read the user's exactly wording, then read my wording ('deserve').

You are standing on the wrong side, easily being played by alts of people that I busted.

Lauda, I found another Bug
I reported it to theymos , thank you.

https://i.hizliresim.com/G92Qdb.png

 ;)

I wonder whether this sudden change of heart and this
display of your sincerity was caused by the trust rating that
MadZ left on your account.

Besides, the merits that you received don´t look like genuine merits at
all, because most of them were received within a timespan of 3 minutes.

You literally received 154 merits within 180 seconds.

Seems legit.


edit:
Coincidentally, the users that gave merit to you are also mentioned in a previous
trust rating by Lauda:

Interesting.

my friend I found the bug the first day and reported it.
commenting without reading .




Read the date of messages first.



edit: I guess you have not noticed with that amazing intelligence.
Merit receipt report with banned memberships.those memberships do not already exist. :)

You are just upset that I called out your alts, or "friends" I am sad to see that they have not been tagged yet

I read the entire thread* and am well aware of your history.
I just don´t understand how you could have discovered this bug
without using 4 different accounts for that. If I understand
your bug report correctly you need other accounts in order for
that bug to occur at all.

Please correct me if I´m wrong.

*I don´t understand Turkish therefore I can´t comment on
the content of the quoted post in the Turkish local section.

Two things.

1. You could have easily prove there is a bug by sending 1 merit to your own account. No one would have even noticed that, by the way. Instead you decided to send yourself the maximum merit on 4 accounts. This was purely for your own gain, not bug testing.
2. You're admitting to ban evasion and this account should be banned as well. Well done.

I am not changing my feedback on this matter.

I have a special reason for this
I wanted to show all my memberships because the ban given to the ban is unfair.

Why not just give yourself 1 merit point then and not a whole bunch

your opinion is not important to me
  I am already clear open.
I am a very old member, I do not need this situation to win Merit.

could not try the explanation principle. I do not know how much I can give. I wrote the highest number.
but it is normal to doubt this.
I certainly do not criticize this behavior. I would think the same.


but it does not attract your attention at all.
there is no one who can comment on this issue.
I had no real bad intentions.
I do not know how to prove it.
I will be able to eng this

:D

I´ll explain why I think that your behavior is suspicious.
You test your assumption with the highest number and see that it works and you have
found a possible bug. Afterwards you login with yet another account and do
the same thing - again with the highest possible number. Instead of stopping you do the same
process an additional two times with two different accounts.

If you were doing this solely for the purpose of detecting bugs with the merit
system you would have stopped after the very first successful attempt at
verifying your assumption.

I'm not criticizing your comments.
but there is a situation like this. I have reported this issue before anyone else noticed it.


Find an answer to this situation!


besides, the headline here is probably among the messages that are already left in place and are forgotten.
but I heard the explanation at the end and I try to tell the people here.

Just laugh to "Smart-Abusers".

Evil Cycle V2.0 is released.
"Main Account - Need Merit - Smurf Account Send Merit - Main Account Get Merit - Another Smurf Account Send It Again - Main Account Have Many Merit - Get Higher Rank - Do Shitposting in many threads, Spamming to reach Post Requirements (Sig. Camp) - Get Tackled by DT Team - Butthurt - Make New Main Account - Back to 1st Cycle Again. How astonishing that was.  ??? ;D"

Greedy people do many tricks to achieve what they want, and yah... Bold People will cut it off

I'm sure they don't feel 'random' about themselves and you may look pretty random from where I am. What now? Should we do official random/special forum members classification?


I dunno, sounds pretty threatening. If you think that someone "deserves" red-trust, why would you stop yourself from doing that? You're essentially saying that you already have justification for red-tagging them and you're willing to use it.
The guy you replied to already have red-trust from you, so it won't work here, but your post can act as a nice little deterrent to anyone who would want to ever criticise you.


Oh am I now? I don't care who akram143/playboy654 are, whatever the (personal) reason behind that post was, the point could still be valid.
I'm leaning in favour of tagging unusual sMerit donations, but what your special, totally-non-random intellect refuses to comprehend is that you're making it much harder for the taggers.
Now they either have to admit the lack of integrity in their actions and having personal preferences in what is 'taggable' and what isn't. Or go through the mental gymnastics in explaining why it's OK for Lauda to send sMerits to whoever the fuck he wants, while some Russian guy will be tagged for doing exactly the same.

What they feel is irrelevant for the taggers, those users are random.

This has been the case with pretty much every society/community, and has been the case here for years. Have you been living under a rock?

It's mockery. Your language skills weren't sufficient to pick it up. Usually I use a mockery meme, but then social justice warriors like Quickscammer complain about that too.

Bullshit =/= Criticism.

That's exactly the point when you introduce a complex system instead of using simple tools to combat spam.

I can send sMerit to whoever I want[1], whenever I want, for whatever reason as long as it is not selling of the points or some sort of weird *trading*. Welcome to liberalism which I believe theymos supports (a ideology which I hate FYI).

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[1] Alt rings and similar farming are excluded, by since I used the wording "I" this does not apply here.
[2] Replace "I" with "You" and you get the same thing.
[3] The Russian guy will be tagged because he is a random shitposter, and has not proven that he can be trusted with 20k satoshie let alone 20 merit points.

May i add this one on list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818404.msg28927677#msg28927677

This user were given 50 merits and 36 merits and it looks like they were connected to each other Cean give leonbtc 50 merits then leonbtc gave cean 18 merits then neo give leonbtc 36 merits then leonbtc sent it back to neo with 31 merits

Accounts Connected:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035345
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=756570
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1018920

This looks like a possible swap of merit points (or the accounts
are connected):


Another user where the same incident happened:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81995


He received 20 merits from petrcoin and gave 20 merits to petrcoin.
He also received 20 merits from fxpc (in 1 merit increments) and gave him
back 20 merits as well.

Another instance of a merit swap (or potentially connected accounts):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=914767


User wnj4 sent 50 merits to jooj and received 50 merits in return.
Both users also received 50 merits each from another user
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290351).

If anyone has doubts that these are not genuinely awarded merits, just
take a look at one of the posts that has received 50 merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2247571.msg28853951#msg28853951

SUGGESTION:

Just for the readability of the OP with all the reports. A tabular form would be appropriate for this, just like in the [User Generated] - Known alts of anyone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.0) by Lauda. (I got the idea there) I cannot get the codes there since the thread is locked but I tried to create my own code. Please feel free to modify the code below since I am not good at this.

Sample Output:

Accounts Involved	|Proofs	|Notes	|Submitted by
Accounts that abused the Merit System here	|Proofs link here	|Side notes here	|Contributor here

Code:

Another legendary merit seller and trust farmer  ;D
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827299.0

https://i.imgur.com/Do8f59G.png

Farming:
https://i.imgur.com/Sfdnm3b.png

Translated:
"*specific russian term*
Here everyone asking about Merit but i need Trust.
Exchanging your good Trust for mine."

Id like to thank everyone who has added to the list so far, the last few all ready have been tagged red so I will not update them to the OP.

if you talking about ancientcoin it's wrong. He's trust is about another incident. So he must be tagged because of his merit farming. It's not his first topic.

What do you think about this:

This guy Durr_1412 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1186307) is complaining and calling everyone rich people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2822726.0

Sent merit to user long8899 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1271914) this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828412.msg28998422#msg28998422 archived https://archive.fo/wbOZc

Posted Today at 09:29:29 PM, merit sent Today at 09:30:12 PM: 4 to long8899 for Re: Anti-spam Merit Giveaway

There is no possible way for Durr_1412 to read whole topic, read long8899's post and send him merit in only 43 seconds unless...

If you look at post history of both accounts you will see that both users have identical writing style, both of them sent merit to each other and both are in the same signature campaign.

But don't listen to my weird logic and jumping to conclusions.

aTriz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920) and Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872) should be tagged for merit farming. See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282.0

Klaaas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147451) is probably also involved.

If you can kindly go fuck off, it would be greatly apprenticed. They both deserve, lauda and atriz, thousands of merit points.

Getting weak knees in front of Lauda? You're not the only one. The only thing that makes Lauda exceptional is the scam he gets away with. And that doesn't deserve any merit!

It's only abuse if they are selling merit or sending themselves merit via alts. I doubt the first case is true, and unless you're suggesting they're the same person, there is no reason to list them. In other cases, it is unclear whether the users are altnerate accounts of one another, which is why they are listed in the OP.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ra1bmpxpsppNC/giphy.gif

Nobody is weak, only your brain. Done.

No, I just support that Lauda should have a shit ton of merit

Are you fucking serious ?
That's me .
I gave a few merits to my wife the minute I heard about this whole system .I didn't even understand the whole concept at the time ,I just did it .
And yes ,my wife's handle is "mister k" .No reason for me to explain to you why her handle is "mister" ,it's a long story and none of your business .
Check her email if you're that paranoid : "theknittinggirl..."
The others I received from french guys who like the work I do in the French version topic of airdrops .
Some guys here give 50 merits to their buddies ,I gave a few to my wife ,what's the big fucking deal ?

How about this? wnj4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914767) sending 50 merit to jooj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200) for this post:

(archive: http://archive.is/XPeui#selection-3443.0-3443.156)


and wnj4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914767) receives 50 merit from jooj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200) for this post:

(archive: http://archive.is/d4BNp#selection-7709.0-7709.103)

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Now there is hoop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290351) also sending 50 merit to wnj4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914767) for this helpful( :P) post:

(archive: http://archive.is/T5Njv#selection-1919.0-1919.119)


hoop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290351) also sends 50 merit to jooj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200) for this post:

(archive: http://archive.is/VSogx#selection-4074.31-4247.154)

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• January 25, 2018, 09:02:40 PM: hoop sends 50 merits to jooj for Re: Sugar Exchange - NO ICO / AIRDROP REGISTRATIONS NOW CLOSED.
• January 25, 2018, 09:04:38 PM: hoop sends 50 merits to wnj4 for Re: [ANN][TOKEN]PumaPay - Comprehensive Blockchain Billing Protocol. SALE 22.03
• January 26, 2018, 01:10:56 PM: wnj4 sends 50 merits to jooj for Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO][BOUNTY] BATTLE OF TITANS - Top PvP Arena with crypto store
• January 26, 2018, 03:46:57 PM: jooj sends 50 merits to wnj4 for Re: ☑☑☑[ANN][BSD] BitSend -The first Segwit Masternodecoin 0.14.0.5 New Version

I Have finely got some explanation what merit is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 , but I am totally agree with you about abusing, people are really started actually. I think creators of this merit forgot about multiply accounts problem and simply one user can send +merit to one of his account and simply pump it. It is kinda "like" and I see no problem in it, I am not going to cry if my posts will not be liked ever. The problem will be when moderators will make "demerit" or "dislike", then haters will organize a whole war here on the forum...

you really are a special kind of cunt.. you do know that don't you?

Why not? It is allowed as long as it is not your alt/not proven, that this is your alt. Same right for all here in the forum.
We can do with our sMerits (if we have some) whatever we want, spend for whatever we want and to whoever we want, as long as we don't cheat.

Apparently not, the higher ups will judge you as they like. If they think you are spending your merits on the wrong person you'll be receiving a negative trust. So you can't really spend it for however you like. Good luck to that.

so he starts with 8-4-2-1-0.... then what? he still needs 100 to rank up.

that's the beauty of this system, there isn't a lot of angles for someone with 2 accounts. now farmers with 20 accounts have a chance at 1 level up, but these connections will be made and called out

Maybe another merit seller with legendary rank - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388221
Here his merit statistic - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=388221
he is meriting ordinary posts without any usefull information like that:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2777849.msg28869383#msg28869383 (page 3)

Screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/NevlTHl.png

or that:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2277512.msg28795204#msg28795204 (page16)

Screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/OI9XLRl.png

It's very strange, to merite such posts with 25. Also that user is known russian troll who spending all his time in politic section and doesn't have any contributions to russian community of this forum.

Hi.
These 2 users are also exchanging Merits for their posts in the same topic. I'm not very sure if they have discussed it before, but I have a doubt, because they have agreed to the same point while giving Merits to each other for it. Well, though it can be mutual thinking, but, I have also checked the other Extra Merit Points they got, and I thought they are not genuinely earned Points, atleast not all of them. You should have a look.

Here are the links to their profile and screenshots to their Merit summary:
User 1: Adioliver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=925340)
Merit summary: https://imgur.com/8VxXYQz

User 2: Sasuke102001 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1101160)
Merit summary: https://imgur.com/tuWvM7M

I saw that one, I didn't add it to my list, really didn't look like abuse but both your post quality looks like shit, if you intend to have alts give you false merit to rank up Ill be sure to add it to the list

May I ask why this user got merit for a post that had to be deleted?

Merit summary for PinkCrypto
Merit: 1

Sent in the last 120 days
Received in the last 120 days
January 25, 2018, 12:42:48 AM: 1 from junoreactor for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Hopefully the demerit thing doesn't come into force as I'll be knocked straight back down to newbie from a few members who don't like my posts/me. It is a fairly worrying prospect.

Doesn't seem like enough to really warrant anything. Could just be due to their mutual agreement (though that can be a disguised way of transferring merit).

This shitty merit system adds confusions, anger, insecurities, jealousy and made members stalking to other members.
This system only favored to higher ranks those English are their native language but totally unfair to somebody else.
English isn't my thing, but let's be honest, all of us had minimum of 2 accounts and even a dozen as I do.
I know nobody does give me sMerit because this isn't a quality post to achieve impressions but neither I'm going to give my sMerit away into Hero and Legendary members.
*sigh* disappointed

It's like what I just said. This shitty Merit creates stalking between members as theymos clearly stated that this would not be monitored in any force.
Why don't you guys mind your own damn business and let those poor members find their ways on earning sMerit and leave them alone for God d*** sake!

Anybody has toothpaste? I forgot to bring mine, meta camp beggar.

Its not about English, nor about ranks, but about the contribution a post adds to a discussion/thread. It won't be unfair for the ones who can find at least one valid reason to post something which is what the forum lacks now a days and that is why the system has been implemented. Have as many accounts as you like, but none of them would be of work if you can't compel the users to reward you with Merits for your posts.
By the way, posting twice in a row is against forum rules. You did it just now.

P.S: You got a Merit by someone, which you asked for in your post, indirectly. No offense.  ::)

It is really amazing to see such people who earned 50 - 150 merits with a span of 3 days. Meanwhile we the honest and good guys still stuck at the initial merit given to us by Theymos.

But im not really disappointed even though it will take much longer to rank up ill just do what i usually do here post and learn new things, and i hope those shitposter and account farmer will disappear in this forum.

Look how many I got. Was it by being dishonest? No it was by being mega active, being positive and paying it forwards. I don't need to be a farmer or a shitposter and neither do you.  I treated this like I would change in real life, I embrace change and make the most of it. Try it and see what happens

Often the Legendaries and Heroes are the shitposters and account farmers.  :D

The only difference with other 'shitposters' and account farmers is that the first get merited for it by the dozens and the latter tagged red.

i saw he joined all bountys translete section and will take him some stakes it is meaning he is only bounty hunters maybe he works  alto of time to translate but i dont think so he is amaziX team a member ;

btw ,

he have got some good friends most of SR member :) send the each other some smerits ;

is it acceptable ? like that a jirckle ? if yes i want to try :) but trying to make such a quality things after that system ! am i right ? we must to no shitpost

Merit is given by person who has evaluated post or posts that he or she considered quality.
or you may request for merit your self by following the process like replying a thread with ten of you quality posts in meta.
theymos never stated on the new rule that account or individual who give merit to a shit post will be given a warning or something or it is not allowed to just give your merit to someone.
(correct me if I'm wrong) so there is nothing wrong sending sMerit to your friend, to your lover, to your brother/ sister/ parents/ husband or wife/  nor your neighbors in exchange of giving you sMerit in return, because their's a need of having merit to rank up, right?? It is like sending gift to a friend  in some way.

So let's move on??

I want to report something suspicious, user GR92:
+50 Merit for this post?!?!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2254760.msg27369674#msg27369674

I wanna believe that the Merit system will be a real multi-account catcher! Perhaps the real purpose of this system is to become aware of multi-accounts due to the rapidly growing user population in the forum in recent times.

Im a bit confused about the merit rules. Are they allowed to be traded?  Also, why can you say that a post didn't deserve X merit?  Is it not in the right of the giver to choose?   

Those are all honest questions so, please dont feel as though im attacking you.

They are not allowed to be sold, it is extremely frowned upon to trade merit and as you can see everyone found trading merit is getting tagged.

Accounts Connected: Farin Aliev
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121340), Dzhavid Asadov(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121833) and AlexFF(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500293).

Proof:
Date Registered:August 24, 2017, 06:30:13 AM
Date Registered:August 24, 2017, 01:25:55 PM
Date of registration with a difference of several hours.
In addition, there are links to the transfer of merits to each other.

Similar last activity (lack of activity after writing confidence):
http://archive.li/zTljN
http://archive.li/1BZKx
http://archive.li/SXYAD

this is not proofs and mean you just have some problem with this person Farin Aliev and try to kill in your personal interests

This user tries to exchange Merit:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1048815 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1048815)

proof (https://imgur.com/a/lso9n)

I certainly agree that I got screwed out of an easy obtainable Legendary account by just some posts (I already have the activity I am only missing the post count) but thats no reason to abuse this system.

Another questionable merit swap:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=95437


User buzzkillb sent 20 merits to kingcarsen and received 31 merits in return.
I´d give them the benefit of the doubt here, but the posts in question are of
very questionable quality.


and


Kingcarsen has already been tagged by ibminer and Lauda for having several
alt accounts.

a.k.a TimeLord now has years of investigations to link accounts giving merits to each other.
a.k.a TimeLord the multi-account catcher, the first high ranking member who posted on my first thread I think, now I know that he was trying to bust me, he has been like this from the start.
Maybe theymos needs to limit the numbers of merits which could potentially be given according to their ranks?

Newbies: 5 merits.
Jr. members: 4
Members: 3
Full members: 3
Sr. members: 2
Hero and legendary: 1-2

How about this one on Merit Measurement Scale?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2841364.0

New one for you to update your topic on list of users who are abusing merit system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833242.msg29142253#msg29142253

We might need to define what is shitpost and what is good quality post. Shitpost generally = 'yes', 'thank you', 'nice project' (even this needs clarification because when you believe it's a nice project, what should you say other than 'nice project'?) , obviously spamming, starting a thread with a ridiculous question etc. What is good quality post then? Should it be technological? Should it make good points which nobody has mentioned before? (I doubt that people read each reply on a thread with too many replies) How can you know whether a person has put an effort on his post or not? The point of merit system is to demand respect for this forum. Am I right? If so, people reporting spam also deserves merit, in my opinion. People trying to rank up is not a problem, isn't it?

There you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2836505.0
This is topic on "what is the shit-posting?"

Please add these people as well

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2841559.msg29147766#new

There are more cases than those ones.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0

In my point of view, the most important and essential part of merit system is to keep the forum running smoothly, out of spamming threads, and farming accounts. All of those have made our forum like a shitty forum. It's not good.
The forum was created as a place for discussion about crypto ecosystem. Since now, it should be and turn back to its original one. Let's grow up, matured over time, making and contributing higher-quality posts over time, then the forum will be almost perfect place for discussion.

Let's go along with the merit system, everyone.

If you are going to post paragraphs for someone to read, make the sentences flow together it shouldn't feel like a chore to read that

I'll update the list tomorrow night

English is not my mother tongue. You are likely too strictly with my thread, which has been adjusted a bit. Thanks for your recommendation, bro.

Its getting harder to find, they are either slowing down or stopping I have only added one to the list today

God damn, this list is really fucking helpful. Thanks for your time and hard work! Also, a little suggestion - maybe add the usernames to the OP as well? Makes the thing easier to read/comprehend if I don't feel like clicking out of the page.

What's the point in it? Since 27th noone from merit sellers and abusers was not tagged. Where Lauda and others disappeared?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696580.msg27560166#msg27560166
merits for copy-past
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2809836.msg28771341#msg28771341
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818398.msg28865551#msg28865551
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818398.msg28864921#msg28864921
facepalm
I think this is one person or group collusion

I guess you might say that are UA. Last time I checked lauda doesn't get paid so anything they do on this fourm

I don't know if this comes under abusing of merit, I find it a little bit fishy.
USER 1:
USER PROFILE : speakoo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=301898)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=301898
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2612592.msg29013144#msg29013144

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USER 2:
USER PROFILE :  Alex Bond (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909175)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=909175
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731984.msg29163282#msg29163282

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USER 3:  
USER PROFILE : mikhael.gusev (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1248160)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1248160
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2626133.msg29218951#msg29218951

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USER 4:
USER PROFILE : Crytocoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952659)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=952659
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2717001.msg29022174#msg29022174

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MISCELLANEOUS :
Post editted..

Low ranking members don't have a lot of merits anyways  :P

Not a lot of initial Merits but why do you think a low ranked member is not able of doing high quality posts and earn much merit very fast?

How about listing yourself for stealing my login?

Accounts connected: Decline(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1215922) - MrAntonius(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=987777)

Proofs:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1215922

Mutual exchange of merits for useless messages. Most likely a alt. In addition, the Decline account is often responsible for questions to MrAntonius.

Small scale but looking a bit suspect.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=795655

Merit summary for Ridwan.P
Merit: 100

Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 08:06:41 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: How bitcoin change our life?
Today at 08:06:26 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: How bitcoin change our life?
Today at 08:06:05 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin?
Today at 08:05:48 AM: 1 to Ta.Form for Re: Why do we really need Bitcoin?

All 4 merit point awarded to the same account for shitposts in spam megathreads.

I will add also some users that abused the sMerit System. I'll edit this post once I also caught somebody abused it. We can find more at Altcoin Announcement Board and Bounty Programs. I see some of the facebook reports of the bounty program that has added a merit it was a pointless report.

My first contribution to this thread: alexberezov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1066970) (=account seller) conveniently went from 100 to 250 Merit on one day for these three posts:

One of the posts is 20 days older than the rest, I don't think this was a coincidence.

The 3x50 Merits came from chixka000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=821846), NetFreak199 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819793) and blo8i (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107826) (=Scammer).
My guess is that he used his 3 Hero-accounts to be able to rank up his Full Member to Sr. Member.

Credit where credit is due:
1. Mahirap (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052329) left alexberezov red trust 6 days ago: "Using his/her alt accounts to send some merits to this account."

2.

It's a Joke ??

There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you

It's not really, they give me sMerit, I do.

I was given sMerit because I am active, very active, I have never been asked to send it to anyone and the opposite also. And I don't give it back to everyone, and I give it to people who haven't sent it to me because I like their ability to produce quality content, and pertinent translation.

Since 2013, I have had plenty of time to make friends here, some of whom are IRL. // little 2015 attracts by media speculation to be polite.

Not all my helps are visible in posts or on this forum.

Easy to take the list of the first ones and find them "flaw".

Not very rewarding of you. great investigator!

Just take me out of that list. It's no sense. I never ask to be in the stupid top XXX of sMerit

__________________

Just think, i'm legendary in One Year, what is my advantage to have all the point now? ...

So boring, type of Lounge Avenger?

if you allow yourself, I will.

What's the problem these days? #balanceyoursuspicion ?

Ridwan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=795655) has this address on his profile 0x8A67E2C8b994B32d73fE24C85dDAb3C88080c2E1
http://prntscr.com/i861q9

Ta.Form (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1109350) has this address on his profile 0xaFA49103b15834D6bCF6ac5a2664b0c85e379b4E
http://prntscr.com/i862ce

Now, this address 0x8A67E2C8b994B32d73fE24C85dDAb3C88080c2E1 looks like accumulating address for ERC20 tokens which contains many transactions from various bounty campaigns.

Also, both accounts are participating in the same signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2567797.0 which you can see in their profile page and this is transaction which connects Ta.Form with Ridwan: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x89fef0d4acae69385c3486903feb924bc813935cc0b289f0acd3234a46a2512d

I am sure if you look further that you will find more connected accounts ;)

@marlboroza thanks for the detective work. I wouldn't know where to start on mETH addresses. Is anyone monitoring this thread or would it be better off in Reputation?

Follow this address https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x8a67e2c8b994b32d73fe24c85ddab3c88080c2e1
I see there are lots worldcore token transactions so worldcore bounty spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yd7bd94LuppHsBzoICGYJj3cEuf-eA8AoJPyhmvo45s/edit#gid=632761 will be just fine to begin with.

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Suggestion to OP - Reputation is much better board for this because you can create self-moderated thread and delete all off topic replies and spam.
Also you should reserve first few spots just in case, redesign topic and make it more eyes-friendly, when linking to who sent merit it would be ok if you post user name near link or something like this theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=35), also giving specific color(red for example theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=35)) to -ve rated users will spare some time for DT.

Or just keep it messy  ;D

Thanks for the guidance but either I've misunderstood something or it's clean. I searched the spreadsheet for the source addresses to the TXs in the spreadsheet. Didn't find anything, not even the 2 original names.
 

Sorry, my mistake.

0x8a67e2c8b994b32d73fe24c85ddab3c88080c2e1 has been used in worldcore facebook bounty(not signature) https://prnt.sc/i8b5rz

Also account number 3 sent funds from this address 0x208BDEB66971f217B562a905c2eC7E640DB1c8d0  to accumulating address here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x852e8a873387f37c79d62f70182197c31d26651622b4d4cfc7b640038d70836f  found here https://prnt.sc/i8b7e8 in worldcore facebook bounty.

As for 0xaFA49103b15834D6bCF6ac5a2664b0c85e379b4E and account Ta.For I have found address in publication bounty spreadsheet.

Account number 4 sent hero tokens from this address 0x259a11956d1B4e1873c76B0b2fa59FFf5ce38fCA to accumulating address https://etherscan.io/tx/0x10bf89ac9ec7ee3f3277148a50421a2eafef14dbebd77874d6009e5c2e77df32  which I have found in hero bounty spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sxr2_WdvWJTRTJvfjlNuGvqt-MMAZw6SrS5S1rI1f9E/edit#gid=1278843479 - http://prntscr.com/i8bcq3

You can see how he has signed up with his accounts one under one in hero bounty which is just another "coincidence".

As I mentioned before, https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x8a67e2c8b994b32d73fe24c85ddab3c88080c2e1 is address for token accumulation, track from where tokens came, check bounty spreadsheets and you will probably find more accounts and write nice post about it in known alts of any one  ;)

It's basically what I've been saying from the start, and thanks for making it more clear for others. I wish I could send a merit for this post, but only have 3 (and only 1 account) :)

Cheers mate

Is this a 20 merit point post??

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2816469.msg29006874#msg29006874 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2816469.msg29006874#msg29006874)

A newby user merited 20 points for this. Very suspicious IMO.

20 merit was given by grue, also known as a global moderator. You've failed at basic investigative work.

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The post is decent, but I wouldn't have given it any merit points.

Is it not plausible that a global mod has alternate accounts?

It's possible but for a global mod to abuse the system in such a way, it would be highly improbable.

I do not see why they would perform such high-risk activities with their reputation on the line. And I hardly think they would need to do so: if you're at that point then certainly you have enough of a knowledge foundation to create high-quality posts to earn merit.

Yes, merit is just new but it is already abused. Don't they read the purpose of merit? It has been explained well and many relevant posts about explaining what merit is in simple terms are just waiting to be read. They must understand the meaning of being fair. I hope everyone should abide about the merit system. Give warning to those suspected members who are abusing it. Thanks!

The Merit system is a good idea to control and improve the post quality of forum members but is easy to be abused and traded as an asset.
Merit trading is not recommended, I never advocate it. But have admins and mods ever thought the Merit limit was too high? It will be difficult to rank-up for local-forum members, or members whose community does not have a local-forum.

I think this happened by mistake. If you the merit history of the sender: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=5797 , it was send two times (10 each time). I mean there is strong possibility that second time he refreshed and gave those 10 merits again.

Are there any reasons why this account has not been added yet?

And has any of those users in the OP got a punishment for abusing the merit system?
This thread doesnt really serve any purpose if there are no consequences.

It might get more attention if it was on the Reputation board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0
This doesn't seem to be against forum rules so it is a trust issue. The guys with the red paintbrushes usually keep an eye on threads posted there.

Didn't see this one. Tagged now.

Nah, this is fine here. I've set this thread on my watchlist but there's a backlog of users that I need to investigate/tag.

Unfortunately, I don't have all the time in the world to spare ;)

Just saw this post on the top merited replys:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2773544.msg29292037#msg29292037 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2773544.msg29292037#msg29292037)

Twinscoin2017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1093001) got four high merit transactions from different accounts which have only sent merit to this guy for low quality posts

    January 31, 2018, 02:01:09 PM: 30 from chickenado for Re: What would happen to BTC if internet was turned off?
    January 31, 2018, 01:40:23 PM: 50 from KenChanYu for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?
    January 31, 2018, 01:30:50 PM: 50 from Gaff for Re: why bitcoin is profitable ?
    January 31, 2018, 01:22:21 PM: 22 from djgtr for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1779 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1779)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=221660 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=221660)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62998 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62998)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22398 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22398)

OK, if you get to the pair I posted above I found 6 connected accounts in the end and posted in the Known alts of anyone thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg29374395#msg29374395). There's probably more but a lot of the scam token campaigns seem to delete their spreadsheets or get there threads trashed.

I've found a suspect in short time on Ann Thread,

This user Alltimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1541577)
Got 31 merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1541577) for a shitpost from enigmatical (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=979479), I think this is a little suspicious. ::)

Proof
https://s10.postimg.org/3ufk54odl/Proof.jpg
http://archive.is/MQaTV#selection-4821.0-4821.181

This one's obvious. Though none of them have been tagged by DT yet.

Twinscoin2017 seems to be either having multiple alts that he has previously bought/farmed, that is sending him merits for posts that probably deserve absolutely none. In fact most of their posts are in spam megathreads with absolutely no content.

Plus, if you look at their post history... Looks very similar imo.

This could be potentially a case of an alt army, instead of just something simple than people abusing merit systems.

User:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911248

Merit link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=911248

Post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818398.msg29512590#msg29512590

Proofs:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1123551
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=956317
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=990365

The merits from these 3 users were set with an interval of 1 - 2 minutes. Most likely alt.

A suggestion to the OP and everyone else who are reporting users abusing merit. When some one has to report users, they can use a standardized format to report them for easiness. For example,
Note: - xxxx should be replaced by userID. yyy should be replaced by the topic's designated ID. And zzz to be replaced by the message number. Like say,
This will also help DT members to tag those who are abusing such, hopefully, and things would seem to be much better.
How bad is the suggestion?

USER PROFILE : ahoenk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=348490),fia_naila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904100),yua_na (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1064065),devollito (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1001911)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1064065 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1064065)
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2740808.msg28373227#msg28373227 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2740808.msg28373227#msg28373227),https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2144988.msg29087180#msg29087180 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2144988.msg29087180#msg29087180)
MISCELLANEOUS: probably alt accounts

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USER PROFILE : roccstar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=981545),   savioroshan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=905665)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=981545 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=981545)
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2614818.msg29345710#msg29345710 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2614818.msg29345710#msg29345710)
MISCELLANEOUS: probably alt accounts

I want to report this profile and here is the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1143254

https://i.imgur.com/AL7R4ke.png

I don't know what is purpose of your post and, of course, so many same threads of other users. Spotting those activities will lead to permanent ban for those accounts or not. I guess not, simply because the current merit system has not pointed out those ones as violated activites.

Therefore, they are legal. The fact is merit system should be adjusted a little bit to control users from trading sMerits officially like those ones, which result in likely official abusement merit system.

Another thing should be considered is that whether we should have limitations on maximum number of sMerits to send or received each day for each user, and from each users to another.

sMerits limit for given day and  limits for each user can be good way to balance merit rating.  If the idea behind merit system to promote community and quality post then limits will be the ideal way.

there is no need to limit on sending/receiving merits, by default it would be limited by the availability of sMerit they have
awarding merits in large number between two users (or set of users) will only raise suspicion, specially for non-quality posts
but maybe blocking certain condition such as repeatedly giving merit to the same person is not allowed
giving merit to the same person becomes available again after spreading merits to 10 different users

This one was easy. The use the same address:
https://archive.fo/v98rr#selection-2969.33-2969.75

https://archive.fo/qD6jC#selection-4045.16-4045.58

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Note: It really comes as a surprise to me that someone who offered ICO bumping services is now abusing the merit system.
Note 2: OP, please update the format or let someone else take this over and lock this thread.

ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853057.0


Hey Lauda, You will also be the first legendary troll here above but into the life as person you are shit because you abuse of the your position in the forum to de-qualify the trust of a person honest.

I apologize for off-topic.

Early for moderators of Russian Local I created categorized list of copy-paste spam topics from Kremlin-bots > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2728272.0
But flood topics still not banned/deleted because second moderator has left the local. At the same time, the Russian local has users that have become legendary for flooding and trolling. By example, tvskit which many times was temporarily banned by moderators for 2 weeks > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=163342  Local moderator say me users like this isn't banned permanently only because theymos gives privileges to legendary. You decide whether the troll from Politics section deserves a legendary rank and neutral trust when not only doesn't help the forum, but also insults moderators, increases the burden on the moderators and calls a shit the fight against bots and spam.

Proof:

Translated:

PS. Sorry for my English and thanks for help.

One thing I would to add here is that please spare the members who gave double merits by refreshing the page as it was a bug here.

How can you believe a person who is engaged in trolling and spamming in politics? And does it trade and exchange merit!!!

https://c.radikal.ru/c16/1802/31/e16e339aef5c.jpg

I believe that merits should be awearded singly with the limit of one per user per post. Members should be able to award any sMerit they have, even if it is all of it in one day, and posts should be able to receive multiple merits provided they are from different members. This is the best way to gain peer ranking of posts in my opinion.

If I'm a troll and a spammer, then why did the moderators many times ban you and never me? And where is the evidence of your help to the forum? Can you prove that there is a connection between my trust and your innocence? Come on, I'm waiting with popcorn. 8)

Only a dumbass could buy accounts and then blame me without evidence. You're dumber than the last idiot, keep on amusing me, tvskit.

Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2867076.msg29460089#msg29460089

Translation:

UPD: You can delete your posts as much as you like, the Internet remembers everything, you again proved your stupidity.
http://archive.is/bWXCc (http://archive.is/bWXCc)
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YP-YlH-8gGgJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D2867076.new+ (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YP-YlH-8gGgJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D2867076.new+)

I for example failed inattention immediately after the service I lost 15 s-merit just refresh the page, it does not mean that abused credit, bad that you cannot cancel the transfer and no waiting time or confirm the transfer of s-merit at the @mail for example, that would be the time to think about it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1217524 God Fist October 15, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1104727 Hazaki August 12, 2017

Those two are probably the same person. Noticed they'd give points to each other and they both have the exact same way of typing with the spaces before punctuation:

For the sake of ranking up many people are becoming cheaters, so the results instead of ranking up they will incurred of warning or if they are totally guilty they will become banned. Why don't you try to grow up and takes merit as inspiration, to improve post quality. Good job sir you caught the list of some people abusing merit system, keep it up.

USER PROFILE :  RichDaniel  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886352)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=886352
PROOF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2857163.msg29379539#msg29379539
MISCELLANEOUS: Has received 283 merit in one hour, standing actually on the 7th place for Top-merited users

Probably farmed accounts and almost certainly belong to the same user as RichDaniel. If you look at the accounts every single one of them has the exact same activity/post count which is usually indicative of farming. I think the trouble with this merit system is people are going to probably spend more time searching and investigating people abusing the system than actually giving merit.

I was unable to trivially find connecting addresses, however the pattern is definitely there and that amount of merit is in no way natural. Therefore, we have one of following:


Indeed.

Do you guys have any secret NSA, Pentagon,etc.. tactic for catching scammers or do you just go to the recent posts that have been getting high amounts of merit? Also, are there any specific local language boards that are being monitored?

The https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent is the easiest place to catch them. Also just watch a few spam megathreads and any merit sticks out like a sore thumb.

Example this just went through on recent merits https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2770534.msg29232977#msg29232977

5 merit in a thread called "I'm gonna sell my house"


I'm sure if anyone looked into that they'll find something amiss.

Ah, I see... it would be easier if there's the date that the merited reply was made. Like how in "Top-merited recent replies" there's a post from Jan 22. and it's given 50merit here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095908.msg28684426#msg28684426) (tho I see that he's been given red trust). So, pretty much, look for that, right?

I'm not sure the date tells us anything. Again that's reply #1613 in a thread about nothing, any merit on something like that looks a bit suspicious and 50 looks ridiculous.

Apparent merit swap:

https://i.snag.gy/zvNcG8.jpg

ETH Address:0xb42A0ea478d33675240CA6Fb1575d3987638EAf0 posted by Dennys52 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1159253) http://archive.is/6sNUL in LUXCESS GROUP bounty.

ETH Address:0x2b74bE5Ea5026333F11Fe80436222BC8A16a3e67 miha74 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=999197) http://archive.is/3L1KF in DID bounty.

Linked by transaction https://etherscan.io/tx/0xed69bbcac4cce8c3330c7b282093a5c996049df1a9f328c0556e5c562fe83e0a

There looks to be others but the ETH addresses I found were not yet used klim75 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1687608), klim80 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1687943)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1159253
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=999197
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1687943
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1687943

Today is the day I look through this and update the OP.

Gonna be a long day

Exchanging Merits. Possible alt accounts. Their way of typing, and most of their posts in the Altcoin section, along with the fact of Meriting each others shit posts definitely indicate that either the accounts are being operated by the same person, or they have discussed to exchange Merits. In both ways, I believe they are abusing the system.

Accounts:
1. Miloudi0912 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=542524
    Merit summary: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=542524

2. mekky1990 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1301162
    Merit summary: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1301162

I'm glad to see this thread, those who sell merit and abusing merit will be caught and recorded its name here.
Good idea for OP. Cheers...

I have a question to ask to whoever who is reporting/tagging users for merit abusal.
Here's the deal. I noticed that users are spending way more time on patrolling people who are sending and receiving merits than giving merits to deserving people. Spend that time on searching for good posts, learn something new, after all we all came to learn about bitcoin, not whine about the merit system or report *users* for abusing the merit system. The system has just been introduced and users are very demotivated or are feeling degraded, and having a sense of fear in their minds, that they may receive negative feedback, even though some of them may be innocent.
Everyone has their own views and opinions, if someone finds a post worthy to receive merits and others don't, that doesn't mean abusal. Lets just wait and see how far abusal goes. I agree signature campaigns were abused way too much because of lack of corrective action but this is merit system. People shall face consequences in the long term.
Though some cases may really seem to be abusal, why not wait some more time, let the merit system be in place and intact, if any one really has to abuse it, let them do so, theymos shall take action, like he has already mentioned: So, why not let the merit system to be welcomed much, give users a chance to elaborate themselves. What say, people?

I respect Lauda and actmyname (and anyone else who's involved) for tagging merit abusers, but I'm not going to make that my battle.  And the reason is I think that even if shitposters and account farmers abuse the system to no end, they're still going to have a hell of a hard time ranking up.  I think what's going to happen is that account sales, especially of higher-ranked ones--are going to explode.  And that is going to be my battle, and those are the ones I'm going to tag.

I also agree that merit should be handed out to good posts, and I'm trying to do that.  I have about 110 sMerit left, and I'm giving it out to decent posters and especially members below the rank of legendary.
Aye, there's the rub.

See. Exactly my point, you're proving. Great. Thanks.
Um.. I would suggest you to merit users who are rather new, like newbies; Jr. Members and members, even if their English may not be entirely good, if there's worthy content, do merit them. And most of the users post in main crypto related discussions and not in meta and hardly anyone our there merits such good posts, so that's the bummer there.  :(

I think this is exactly why so many people are complaining and vehemently trying to find abusers of the system. By giving away merit you are allowing this new feature to function properly. At the same time, this witch hunt is precisely why the system is in fact broken, very few higher leveled individuals will most likely feel the need to help the greater community as a whole by giving out merit.

This in turn, creates a higher value on accounts that have more merit to give, and incentivizes those individuals to continue the witch hunt.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0

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