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June 28, 2018, 08:16:39 PM
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I will check about smartmixer to be sure because I see the users who complained are users with 2 posts or coming back after almost 5 years of inactivity in the topic link you posted.

As for Pay shield I haven't heard lately so I don't know but I will search to see how it's going and remove it it if needed

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At least in their profile it is clear that they were on the network June 21, 2018, 02:57:09 PM, but did not bother to respond to users who accuse them of fraud.
At least you could indicate in your list that they do not respond to messages on the forum.
In general, silence is a sign of agreement. Those. if they do not refute the charges, then they agree.
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June 29, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
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SmartMix.io is a scam - Part 2

In Part 1, the following was established:

1. The user’s 1st Tx with SmartMix.io appeared to succeed; user sent 0.7001 BTC to SmartMix.io and got back 0.7 BTC (nothing being said here about whether the coins were mixed or not; just that SmartMix.io sent back the users’s BTC).
2. The user’s 2nd Tx with SmartMix.io failed.  User sent 1.8620081 BTC, and received nothing back.

User submitted several support requests via the contact form on SmartMix.io’s website, but received no response…

...that is, until a couple days later, when a blog webmaster, upon reviewing the evidence, acted with awesome integrity and pulled every SmartMix.io promotional article from his blog and issued a scam warning.

Emailing from smartmix@protonmail.com (email address not listed anywhere on SmartMix.io's website) the scammer wrote to the user:

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“please excuse our late answer.
Your support requests from aebib@pm.me landed in our spam folder.
The only thing that actually came through were the threats sent with the adresses smartmix@gmx.net and dead@youare.com. (not so nice)
We will investigate the situation and check all the information you provided us.
This may take a day.”

Not that it's relevant, but the user did not submit any support requests using ANY of the email addresses listed in the scammer's email, and did not send any threats. 

That was the only communication the user ever received from the scammer.

The user responded to the scammer’s email as follows:

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“Your support form should not have a "spam" folder, but rather, should be attentively monitored, like a professional business would operate. 
It's not "nice" to be unresponsive when dealing with large amounts of your customer's funds.

Resolution. 

1) Look here:  
https://blockchain.info/tx/50135c1e012202f60ac414faebeec8a1a138589fa1bbf86c7d40cad0922790d1

Notice that your address - 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4 - received 1.86200821 BTC from my addresses, 1PoPLJYdw17p6PQeVYNHFz32Z74VtXkEfZ, 
1Mvfd79nvJLbfeKZHFFrfHwCb2gEVUnrVR.

2) Review your records and notice that you have not delivered the 1.86100821 BTC (minus your 0.0001 Tx fee) owed to me.

3) Look here: 
https://blockchain.info/address/1DFnmz26X4c3gBtpbgwz2HRJHkCqJfRuh1

That is the output address I specified when I initiated the mix.  Notice that it has zero balance, and zero Txs.

4) Send 1.86100821 BTC to the above address and we're good.

Your prompt attention here is important.”

While the scammer never emailed the user again, on 6/23/2018, he did email the blog webmaster:

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“after carefully analyzing all transactions and mixer logs we found the following:

1. The user made a successfull mix of 0.7 BTC
2. He created another mixing session to clean more bitcoins
3. He sent 1.8 BTC somewhere, but not to us. The address in the mix page has not received any funds.

We are very sorry for the person who list her bitcoins due to sending them somewhere, but cannot do anything.
Other than that we have a lot of happy customers and the mixer always works fine.
Regarding the communication with the customer: We are not willing to help him anymore in tracking down his funds, since he sent us death threats.

We ask you kindly to put up the posts on your website again and remove the scam accusations since they are not true and damage our brand.”

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“He sent 1.8 BTC somewhere, but not to us. The address in the mix page has not received any funds.”

And thus we arrive at the scammer's MONUMENTAL ERROR: 
When the scammer sent the user's BTC from 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj in Tx #1,
he unequivocally identified himself as the owner of that address.   
3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj is where the user sent BTC to initiate Tx #2.

Incidentally, the webmaster utterly rebuffed the scammer’s request:

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“Here are direct links to the relevant Txs on the BTC blockchain:

1) Tx showing SmartMix.io ownership of address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4
https://blockchain.info/tx/51a67b7d3a4593df246969004e75d70f307f043275afb0b8ea205c3397216a33

2) Tx showing SmartMix.io's address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4, received BTC from user.
https://blockchain.info/tx/50135c1e012202f60ac414faebeec8a1a138589fa1bbf86c7d40cad0922790d1

3) User's specified output address shows balance of zero - i.e. user did not receive BTC (mixed or not) from SmartMix.io.
https://blockchain.info/address/1DFnmz26X4c3gBtpbgwz2HRJHkCqJfRuh1

Tx #2 (above) shows conclusively that you received 1.8620081 BTC, but you did not mix those BTC and send them to the user's specified address.  

Webmaster also noted: 
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“And despite your excuse, this is not the first time that this has happened.”

Webmaster is correct... see links below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.msg40602386#msg40602386
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg36160019#msg36160019
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.0

Next up: Alert the writer of "Top 5 Bitcoin Tumbler Services 2018" where SmartMix.io is listed as #1 and ask, "WTF?!?!?"


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June 30, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
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Yes please, if you have an undeniable proof can you post it here for everyone to see? If it"s needed I will, of course, update the list and remove the site. Thanks

Hi Legaulois,

I've posted proof that SmartMix.io steals user's bitcoin, yet I see that you still have SmartMix.io on your list of mixers. 

If something about the evidence I've posted leaves you with any doubt, would you please explain so that I can have a chance to clarify?

Thanks
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June 30, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
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Hi
I kept reading you to see everything and now removed it from the list
Thank you

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June 30, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
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OP I read your replies, despite the fact that I think we need ratings too, we have a deal here (it just came in my mind).
You have included thread links, so if user decides to use mixer, I highly think they'll follow ANN thread. This is the place where they can see date of website (date of ANN thread usually and some reviews). But what about to mention this in your first post that list is random and what I write...
Btw if you don't mind, I'll share my trusted mixers list:
1. Bitblender
2. Chipmixer
3. Cryptomixer
Do you agree with me?

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July 01, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
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I have a problem with adding ratings:

- Chipmixer is my favorite mixer
- I have my signature space promoting Chipmixer
- I often promote the service on Twitter.

I am not sure to be able to rate the services without to be biased. That's why I didn't when I created the topic. I would rather prefer to post the ANN thread and to let users read the discussion to make their due diligence. This is the best rating they can get.

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Hi
I kept reading you to see everything and now removed it from the list
Thank you

Thank you.
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Could you please correct your list?
The fact is that one of the services, namely SmartMix.io was charged with a scam March 23, 2018.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
After that, several more users confirmed that they had lost coins.
To date, the SmartMix.io did not make any reply messages, which indicates that the service most likely ceased to exist.

Progress on taking down SmartMix.io


CryptoCoinUpdates.com was the first to respond.  They removed all SmartMix promotional articles, issued a scam warning, and rebuffed the scammer when asked that the scam warning be taken down.

LeGaulois has updated his list and has removed SmartMix.io.

DeepWebsitesLinks Top 5 Bitcoin Tumblers list had SmartMix.io listed as its #1 tumbler.   It has been moved down to #7, and is now appears as "7. SmartMix.io (Got Scam Complain)."  They still have some work to do, however, as listing SmartMix.io at all places readers at risk.
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July 13, 2018, 10:16:40 AM
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i just lost almost 5k to fucking SMARTMIX scammers.....


the worst thing is this:

1. I didnt google them for scam.

2. i went for the "https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/bitcoin-tumbler-services/" <--- HE IS A LYING WHORE

3. I first tried it with a small amount 250 USD... it worked fine..... so I tried again with a little more about 2300 USD....then this morning 4.9k dollars.......

the two previous worked just fine...but the third.....YES SCAMMED !

STAY AWAY FROM deepwebsiteslinks.com HE IS IN BED WITH SMARTMIX 100%


BYE BYE well earned money

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July 13, 2018, 06:07:09 PM
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Sorry for you. It's often how the scammers work, they complete your first mix, so you can think the service is legit, then on your next mix, they will steal your coins.
Be careful too with the blog websites and their Top 5, Best XYZ, ztc

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DeepWebsitesLinks.com == SmartMix.io == SCAM

Scammers behind both of these sites.   

Deepwebsitelinks.com (email: deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com) had removed SmartMix.io (email: smartmix@protonmail.com) from the top spot on its list of 5 best mixers a couple of weeks ago...
however, now SmartMix.io is once again listed as the #1 mixer on deepwebsitelinks.com and the "scam complaints" warning has been removed.

Stay away from both of these SCAM websites.

Partial email thread with deepwebsiteslinks follows:

__________________________________

Thanks so much aware about his service, I will contact him right now and delete his service as a scam. Thanks so much for give your valuable time.

Regards

https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com
Email: deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com
Live Chat: ricochet:6u6riblnrjw6wxpy


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On June 29, 2018 6:24 PM, Deepwebsiteslinks <deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com> wrote:

By the way thanks so much for aware about this service, are you victime of his service. If yes then please show me some proof
I will delete and notify scammer right now.

Regards


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On June 29, 2018 3:34 PM, xxxxxx <xxxxx@xx.xx> wrote:

Hi,

The mixing service, SmartMix.io, you have listed as #1 on your website is a confirmed scam.

Here's a thread on bitcointalk.org discussing it. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.new#new

Another blog webmaster, upon receiving the evidence below, and the attached .pdf, pulled every promotional article about SmartMix.io from his site and issued this warning:

https://www.cryptocoinupdates.com/scam-alert-smartmix-io-is-a-confirmed-scam/

I hope after reviewing the evidence, you consider doing something similar too.

_________________________________________


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July 23, 2018, 04:40:04 AM
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Hello. There is another Mixing S]ervice. Also A online wallet. 100% secure and anonym.
Only available via Tor.
http://2ovmq6sfab6u4ucr.onion
Please only use this link. There are some fake mirrors. So if u use this service doublecheck the right URL.


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July 23, 2018, 04:45:16 AM
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Hello. There is another Mixing S]ervice. Also A online wallet. 100% secure and anonym.
Only available via Tor.
2ovmq6sfab6u4ucr[.]onion
Please only use this link. There are some fake mirrors. So if u use this service doublecheck the right URL.
Where did this come from?

1. Never heard of this website.
2. The website is the ugliest thing I've ever seen and they are using a mix of images from other mixers.
2. Does it have any ANN, website, blog, etc? (or anything at all about them?)

I wouldn't touch this "mixer" with a ten foot pole.

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July 24, 2018, 04:55:38 AM
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I just logged on first time in a while, sorry to see coinmixer.se has retired, surprised to see bitmixcoin.io is gone also with scam allegations.

Bitwhisk appears to be a good option for noobs wanting to mix small amounts.

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August 02, 2018, 03:17:15 PM
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Guys I slightly f***ed up... It's really kind of trap, I don't even know what to do ...

Basically, I've sent 6.5 BTC to address https://blockchain[dot]com/btc/address/38SBL724es6MbA7VCXGDJUEASr2cRoqHxc that I've got from https://helix-grams.com/status/21f45eca2cd5767 before I saw the warning in your list...

https://preview.ibb.co/k7W8gK/2018_08_02_08_05_19.png

Now it's transferred to another one and I think it's lost forever!!!!! :(((((

Maybe anyone can advise/help how to deal with this situation and what should I do...

It's REALLY huge amount of money...
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August 02, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
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Unfortunally there is nothing you can do. Your coins are gone.

Sorry for your lost. 50k is no joke.

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August 02, 2018, 06:09:38 PM
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Guys I slightly f***ed up... It's really kind of trap, I don't even know what to do ...

Basically, I've sent 6.5 BTC to address https://blockchain[dot]com/btc/address/38SBL724es6MbA7VCXGDJUEASr2cRoqHxc that I've got from https://helix-grams.com/status/21f45eca2cd5767 before I saw the warning in your list...



Now it's transferred to another one and I think it's lost forever!!!!! Sad((((

Maybe anyone can advise/help how to deal with this situation and what should I do...

It's REALLY huge amount of money...

This is the actual server behind the cloudflare : http://190.97.167.19 . I am not familiar with this stuff but maybe searching the ISP of the IP address and reporting should be the step you should proceed with.

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August 02, 2018, 07:06:30 PM
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The website is hosted on ccihosting.com server and it's an offshore and anonymous hosting. As long the site is not breaking the AUP policy they won't do anything. They also ignore DMCA because located in Panama DMCA complaints don't exist there.

I am sorry for the guy, yeah ~6BTC is a good amount of money :/

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August 03, 2018, 01:57:50 PM
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Guys, It's a f***ing miracle!!!
After all of your posts I thought my money are actually gone. But I decided not to give up and wrote to the support team about the problem. Even though, they were really assuring, I was still very worried and suspicious about it. Fu****g hell, I lost sooo much nerves waiting for the transaction. Hours were going past and I was loosing my hope. By the end of the day, I almost cried! I thought, I lost 50 fu****g k!!! But next morning I decided to check it once more and this time I cried! The money were back! I could not believe my eyes!
I think, for such reason I will throw a party tonight!!! Grin Grin ;

https://preview.ibb.co/eeyMLe/tg_image_1372860293.jpg

https://www.blockchain[dot]com/btc/address/1N6svk9dM4kva6b2hR6bPgzYJDkL7VgLS8]/btc/address/1N6svk9dM4kva6b2hR6bPgzYJDkL7VgLS8

https://helix-grams.com/status/21f45eca2cd5767
Even though I would not use it, logically Helix can be removed from the blacklist.  Undecided
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Even though I would not use it, logically Helix can be removed from the blacklist.  Undecided
This is suspicious as HECK. Be careful everyone.

There is no evidence that OP isn't the owner of the website trying to scam more users by using a fake account to "vouch" for the mixer.

Helix DID close their doors several months ago and this is just someone trying to use their name to SCAM. There is no way a legit business would create a "functional phishing" website which is a 100% copy of the original one just to get costumers.

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