Merits could be a character molding.

[Jet Cash]

As I also said in another thread, the problem is that there are no incentives to give people merit. It is not changing the user experiences of the people who give merit on this forum so there is no real reason for anyone to give merit.

There is one big reason. You give merit points, and you get merit points back if you are a sig spammer. That lifts you above the members who are here to learn and help others.

[sampalokmix]

After reading some of the comments about new rules,  seem merits could bring more good than bad.

I listed some points that merits could bring more good things for newbie than bad.

1.It will oblige new comers to read and study more about bitcoin or cryptocurrency so that quality post can be achieved than just posting non-sense just to
   achieve the higher ranks.
2.It will mold character for a newbie that ranks can be achieved by quality not by quantity of post.
3.It will develop a sense of ownership and will treasure the accounts since it achieve by a hard work.
4.It will develop patience that waiting can bring more good things than quitting.

Whining could not bring you to somewhere, if the new rule implemented then everyone under it is oblige to follow whether we like it or not.

Thank you , this is a huge knowledge for me regarding this new rule. At first I thought merit is about extra points as they say and pranks says that you can sell your nerit which is kinds unfair for me ,but as they say its abide the law , its something unacceptable , and since I have read this thread now I am enlightened thank you for that.

[care2yak]

didn't know about the existence of a merit system until now.

i agree that it could help bring about quality posts, but that wouldn't guarantee that we will indeed be having quality posts.

there could be groups in this forum that can just give merits to certain users they're acquainted with -- and whose posts don't even bear much weight on a particular topic.

it would be too tedious for mods to give the merits, so still, there's no guarantee that anyone ranking up due to merits received did post something that we can actually learn from.

[Silent26]

I agreed, with Merit system spammers will be minimized. Because too many accounts (also new accounts) do only spam posts. We can notice it by looking at thier post with such a one liner post and non constructive words.

Because we can earn bitcoins with this forum. Some people do business by selling bitcointalk accounts. Some people are farming their accounts by posting spam post just to rank. But I think with this merit system, they will not be able to rank up although they make a hundred number of posts. Because if those posts will be just a spam or shitposts, it will not be merited and they will never going to rank up. Every account user will be forced to make constructive post like what our forum's goal.

[Murloc]

Merit is needed to achieve a new rank. I don't think that merit requarements in campaigns will be usefull.

In addition to requiring Merit to rank up, some managers are adding payment tiers based on your earned Merit. Not the amount you started with but the amount you have been given.  So in these situations where people are giving each other Merit, they can ensure that they will continue to earn as much as possible from a campaign. Anyone with half a brain will be able to abuse the system slowly but surely each month with a group of friends/co-conspirators to ensure they get to rank up and earn Merit. There will of course be the people who still get caught in a scheme like this; but i think far more will slip through unnoticed.

And it still brings us back to the old system where campaign managers are checking prople for span or any other shady activities. If earlier they only were checking the post quality then now they should also check if the quality of any post was "evaluated properly" which doesn't make the lifr easier. If someone has slipped with the fake merit then he will be caught later while applying to campaign.

[Lintel]

I find the merit system to be a good move on the part of the forum to improve the content and promote more intelligent interaction. This can be way we are discouraging members to post non-sense posts just to avail of the activity points. This is our forum and even if nobody is expected to be a polished or award-winning writer here, we have to observe basic decorum otherwise this forum will be turned into a zombie-like community. It is about time that there is a way for us reward those who are working hard and maybe disregard those who are just here to post spams. Next in line can be the demerit system but it may not be necessary if majority of the members would be following some form of a discipline.

completely agree with you. merit system is to avoid nonsense post of some other people who only want to increase their ranks even it is out of the  topic or sometimes it is annoying or nonsense. yeah true, this is our forum. forums of all people engaged in bitcoin so we should make it beautiful to read and at least we can get some relevant information in every post we are posting. So I am supporting this  new merit system  .

[meer45]

Theoretically merit system sounds good, by making the quality of posts higher. But I think practically it may cause some problems, since no one is in the need of giving merits. So how can the other earn merits and get higher ranks?

[zlatan07]

The merit system is an excellent way to protect the forum from spammy comments. Now new users will try to write more constructive posts instead spammy ones, so they will become the essential part of this forum. From every day they spent at this forum, they will discover something new and they will learn that step by step.

[Beehives]

After reading some of the comments about new rules,  seem merits could bring more good than bad.

I listed some points that merits could bring more good things for newbie than bad.

1.It will oblige new comers to read and study more about bitcoin or cryptocurrency so that quality post can be achieved than just posting non-sense just to
   achieve the higher ranks.
2.It will mold character for a newbie that ranks can be achieved by quality not by quantity of post.
3.It will develop a sense of ownership and will treasure the accounts since it achieve by a hard work.
4.It will develop patience that waiting can bring more good things than quitting.

Whining could not bring you to somewhere, if the new rule implemented then everyone under it is oblige to follow whether we like it or not.

I agree with you, I fully agree with this rule. but whether it is true merit can be trade? is that true? I have read that rumor in various posts of many people here.

We cannot deny the fact that there are people doing that thing. Merits should be used as and honor not way of earning.

[Thirio]

3.It will develop a sense of ownership and will treasure the accounts since it achieve by a hard work.

As a former jr member (since last night) i totally agree with this! The feeling of ranking up because of merits is superb. It feels good to be recognized and i feel like i'm posting improved posts since the merit system was introduced.

Hope everyone would feel the same as i am! And i hope this forum would become a better place!

[Kulafu]

3.It will develop a sense of ownership and will treasure the accounts since it achieve by a hard work.

As a former jr member (since last night) i totally agree with this! The feeling of ranking up because of merits is superb. It feels good to be recognized and i feel like i'm posting improved posts since the merit system was introduced.

Hope everyone would feel the same as i am! And i hope this forum would become a better place!

That's good dude! you already reap your hardworks. Good Luck!

[Kulafu]

didn't know about the existence of a merit system until now.

i agree that it could help bring about quality posts, but that wouldn't guarantee that we will indeed be having quality posts.

there could be groups in this forum that can just give merits to certain users they're acquainted with -- and whose posts don't even bear much weight on a particular topic.

it would be too tedious for mods to give the merits, so still, there's no guarantee that anyone ranking up due to merits received did post something that we can actually learn from.

I agree dude with your opinion.  We cannot really deny the fact that there are always a gang in the community and all the benefits and resources just only within their circle.
But there are million I guess in the forum and I believe majority of those are independent to each other which their judgement doesn't depend on the group decision but base on their perception of bad and good.
All quality post may not be given merits but it should not be bases to stop of posting quality post.  I really learn in this forum both positive and in negative way. 

[Emilyearl]

I would agree with you for one thing,  merit is here to mould character but then again it's not a good measure of ranking. To me, merit could be good to last for a while longer than each rank was achieved previously rather than being a ranking measure. Those newbies you think it will help mould their characters might forever remain newbie as no one will merit their posts. People don't easily give out their merits and some even share it among their friends. To me merit mightould characters but it won't help much.

[Emilyearl]

After reading some of the comments about new rules,  seem merits could bring more good than bad.

I listed some points that merits could bring more good things for newbie than bad.

1.It will oblige new comers to read and study more about bitcoin or cryptocurrency so that quality post can be achieved than just posting non-sense just to
   achieve the higher ranks.
2.It will mold character for a newbie that ranks can be achieved by quality not by quantity of post.
3.It will develop a sense of ownership and will treasure the accounts since it achieve by a hard work.
4.It will develop patience that waiting can bring more good things than quitting.

Whining could not bring you to somewhere, if the new rule implemented then everyone under it is oblige to follow whether we like it or not.

I agree with you, I fully agree with this rule. but whether it is true merit can be trade? is that true? I have read that rumor in various posts of many people here.

We cannot deny the fact that there are people doing that thing. Merits should be used as and honor not way of earning.

I agree with you on this. If merit is used as an honorary measure and not a determinant of what one earns promoting projects they like, it will be better. And also these honours will be used too during bounty campaigns. As a determinant of earnings some persons will last for years here without a penny to their names due to merits new rank measures. Maybe the admins can look into this and proper a solution.

[Jet Cash]

Merits are not a tool to rank up members. They are a block to stop spammers and semi-articulate people from increasing rank,  If you want to remove the block, then all you have to do is to sharpen your posting skills, and think before you make that post that just repeats a multi-posted opinion.

[superjeyy]

That's true, whining would not lead to anything. Instead of being productive in the forum, people who did not agree with the merit system has been continually ranting when in fact there's nothing to complain about in the first place because it is our responsibility to post constructively in this forum to share and gain knowledge at the same time. I am glad to see newbies opening their minds and trying to see the good in this system instead of allowing the "disadvantage" (for their part) to overpower their mindset. Let's move forward and start accepting change for the betterment of this forum and its members.