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January 28, 2018, 03:23:57 AM
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Is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?

Edited: After reading all the comments i already knew that some of the users are abusing it.

1. Creating a quality post and link it to your friends and get the merits.
2. Trading a link post and trade the merits also.
3. Creating qualitypost and merit it with their alt accounts.
4. There are group of users on telegram sharing their post here and merit those post by the member of that group.

Those merits already abused..

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January 28, 2018, 03:32:31 AM
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If the whole idea is to reward quality posing users, and slow spam down. Then farming for it, or giving it to someone just because they are your friend should be against the rules, however would be hard to prove. So it is likely just unethical.

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January 28, 2018, 03:33:33 AM
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Trading merits for 'something' is against rules and will get you into trouble. Friends giving you merit or you giving merits to friends is alright, you can give merit to anyone as much as you want even if the post is completely shit, no one is going to stop you or take action against you. Although if you are taking merits from your alts that will get you into trouble.
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January 28, 2018, 03:38:42 AM
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Trading merits for 'something' is against rules and will get you into trouble. Friends giving you merit or you giving merits to friends is alright, you can give merit to anyone as much as you want even if the post is completely shit, no one is going to stop you or take action against you. Although if you are taking merits from your alts that will get you into trouble.


AFAIK it wasn’t directly against the rules, and almost completely untraceable and unenforceable, just have a look in the reputation board, you’ll see.

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January 28, 2018, 03:55:17 AM
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is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?
That is not totally illegal, you are the one controlling smerit available into your account but remember the main purpose of the merit system is to recognized the member who did more constructive/quality post.
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January 28, 2018, 04:08:44 AM
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system Merits that has been in do is still a lot of so many questions, so they are looking for ways to merits. I don't know for sure is legal or illegal if merits from friends, it can also get merits from friends
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January 28, 2018, 05:20:00 AM
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is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?
That is not totally illegal, you are the one controlling smerit available into your account but remember the main purpose of the merit system is to recognized the member who did more constructive/quality post.

Yup, there is no rules on giving a merit on your friend or vice versa. But before going to give merit to a friend, your friend must do constructive post so that when you give him merit you won't be questioned by the higher ops.
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January 28, 2018, 05:45:42 AM
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By friends he probably means "friends" aka alt accounts. Doing so will be rife amongst farmers and multi-accounters now but it will also just be one more tool for suspicious users to find alt accounts. You shouldn't really give points unless a person deserves it but it is ultimately up to you how you give out points, friend or not, but also up to the community whether you are giving them out just to help "friends" rank up and how to punish that.

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January 28, 2018, 06:00:29 AM
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is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?

I see the problem you're calling attention to, but the way this Merit system works those opportunities to gift someone merit for less than constructive posts is a dead end path. Once you've given away your sMerits you can only get more by making constructive posts. So the act of gifting away your sMerits only gets you to a point where you are no longer able to do so, faster.

It's a pretty sounds system. The flaws are short term realities that exist in any community. The long term benefits are going to change how this forum is used. It's exciting!

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January 28, 2018, 06:21:10 AM
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By friends he probably means "friends" aka alt accounts. Doing so will be rife amongst farmers and multi-accounters now but it will also just be one more tool for suspicious users to find alt accounts. You shouldn't really give points unless a person deserves it but it is ultimately up to you how you give out points, friend or not, but also up to the community whether you are giving them out just to help "friends" rank up and how to punish that.

Agree with you, lots of account farmers will do that to make their account easily to ranked up and will be able to enter in signature campaign which are their main purpose in this forum.
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January 28, 2018, 06:27:22 AM
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If the whole idea is to reward quality posing users, and slow spam down. Then farming for it, or giving it to someone just because they are your friend should be against the rules, however would be hard to prove. So it is likely just unethical.
sorry, but am i missed something about the rules this "merit" works, where to find it ?

and i think it's hard to read, the people think and you think it's different like you called it good post and help you but the other people didn't

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January 28, 2018, 06:27:50 AM
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I think there are no rules regarding sending merits towards your friends as long as their post has a lot of sense and a constructive one and for as long as those two accounts are not owned by the same identical person which can be very found abusive. So yeah I think it is a better way to supporting your friends that he have done a good job in posting a constructive posts.

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January 28, 2018, 06:34:49 AM
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legal ? who knows ?
but as far as i know,it should be fine for 'Higher Member' to do that.
because It is up to them how much merit he/she give and where she/he give it to.
for us ?
you can not do that,because you will be considered as a abuser,in other words Negative Trust will be yours!

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January 28, 2018, 06:53:25 AM
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legal ? who knows ?
but as far as i know,it should be fine for 'Higher Member' to do that.
because It is up to them how much merit he/she give and where she/he give it to.
for us ?
you can not do that,because you will be considered as a abuser,in other words Negative Trust will be yours!

For reference;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823790.msg28968650#msg28968650

Thanks for your link to abused evidence. It seems that you are so unlucky, 2 more activities to be upgraded to Senior Member, right? I am lucky that I passed the threshold for Member rank one day before merit system activated by admin. But I accepted new rules of the new amazing system.

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January 28, 2018, 06:53:58 AM
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is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?

Yeah it's against the rules. Giving merit to your FRIENDS is cheating. Merits are given for quality posts and not for friends to have.
Or this might likely be seen as Farm accounts. You can be accused as cheating or farming merits now.
If it is proven connected to you, you might get banned like others have.
I know it's hard these days, trying to keep up with the system needs patience.
This forum needs improvement and less stuborn members. Try to be a help rather than another forum campaign vampire.
Good luck mate.
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January 28, 2018, 06:58:17 AM
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By friends he probably means "friends" aka alt accounts. Doing so will be rife amongst farmers and multi-accounters now but it will also just be one more tool for suspicious users to find alt accounts. You shouldn't really give points unless a person deserves it but it is ultimately up to you how you give out points, friend or not, but also up to the community whether you are giving them out just to help "friends" rank up and how to punish that.

Still, we cannot neglect the fact that there are people in this forum that are friends in real life. Even I have friends close friends here. I could easily ask merit from them but that wouldn't be necessary if I could post something relevant to the discussion, right?

Agree with you, lots of account farmers will do that to make their account easily to ranked up and will be able to enter in signature campaign which are their main purpose in this forum.

They are already doing that. Some were tagged already.

If the whole idea is to reward quality posing users, and slow spam down. Then farming for it, or giving it to someone just because they are your friend should be against the rules, however would be hard to prove. So it is likely just unethical.
sorry, but am i missed something about the rules this "merit" works, where to find it ?

and i think it's hard to read, the people think and you think it's different like you called it good post and help you but the other people didn't

There are no rules regarding the abuse of Merit, for now, since this is just a new system of the forum. I doubt there will be because theymos wants the community to have their freedom in giving out merits. DT Members, on the other hand, will exercise their power to stop/lessen the abuse of giving merits.
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January 28, 2018, 08:07:29 AM
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is this legal share merits with your friends? and some one is begging for it? or else give merits and trade for something?
That is not totally illegal, you are the one controlling smerit available into your account but remember the main purpose of the merit system is to recognized the member who did more constructive/quality post.
Hoping that smerit will not be abuse by many account farmers and if they do that much better to tagged them and make them in trouble.
Merit point should be given to those deserving member and not only given because they are friends i am against in that, we need to be fair all the time.
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January 28, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
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this is clearly that maybe merits will have its own value in the future what is your thoughts about this.. this merits can be abuse by other users.

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January 28, 2018, 08:37:34 AM
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Merits will never have a value as they are not meant to be sold.

No further discussion needed unless you want people tagging you. Merits are meant to be earnt with quality posts. Sure you will see lots and lots of bias, but that won't last as once all the initial sMerits have been spread about people will need to earn them, something earnt is worth a shit ton more than something given

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January 28, 2018, 08:48:18 AM
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Merits will never have a value as they are not meant to be sold.

No further discussion needed unless you want people tagging you. Merits are meant to be earnt with quality posts. Sure you will see lots and lots of bias, but that won't last as once all the initial sMerits have been spread about people will need to earn them, something earnt is worth a shit ton more than something given

Accounts aren’t supposed to have a value, but they do, and this forum allows the buying and selling of them.

It’s not written law that you can’t buy or sell merit, it’s already happening off site on telegram, in discord.

I myself will be picking up a nice shinny new account with some extra merit, as this forum encourages account selling by allowing it to take places, merit is no different.

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