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January 16, 2011, 07:37:03 PM
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Is it possible to produce exploits (not software, but perhaps related to social engineering) in which individuals around the world are led to continue their support of ideas as they normally do, but in a way in which their support is directed towards those that have exploited and instead redirect the support into other ideas (particularly those expressed clearly by Stefan Molyneux)?  For example, individuals participative in the collective "powers that be" (similar to the swarm of anonymous) can simply pose as such and establish support from and control over others, in which the support is funding not continued enslavement of humanity, but instead funding help to reduce and minimize such control and power.
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January 16, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
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Do you mean, is there some social engineering exploit that will make government employees start doing things for our benefit rather than for their own benefit?

Lobbying, perhaps?
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January 17, 2011, 12:04:24 AM
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Well, based on insights from Stefan's videos particularly:

"We Reap What We Sow"
Quote from: Stefan Molyneux

and

"True News: 'No Place for Violence in our Political Discourse' ?!?!?"
Quote from: Stefan Molyneux

and most importantly/primarily

Living Free in an Unfree World: Stefan Molyneux at Libertopia 2010
Quote from: Stefan Molyneux

So, with realization or the idea that the control, slavery and power over majority of humanity by a minority of humanity is reinforced by ourselves (the minority, slaves), then it should be fairly easy for white hat social engineers and other experienced, talented intelligent hackers to establish/produce and preserve a kind of exploit in which the slaves recognize the actions (from the exploit) as being the normal reinforcement of statism in their minds and will result in the exploiter participating in similar achievements, establishments of power and control as the already existing masters, powers that be, whatever.  But since they are not black hat, they do so in a way that redistributes the established achievements and power back to the slaves.  This strategy could be a kind of effort (or several efforts) in which the funding and support that would normally go to the numerous individuals that have established master status or control over majority, would then be stolen or diverted from them and over time weaken their grasp, control, power until they are no longer able to sustain themselves.

This idea for exploitation opportunities is only one idea in which many exist to help overcome our current dilemma, but it seems likely to be very opportunistic considering it is very similar to yet another black hat exploiter joining the efforts of the existing exploiters (individuals of power), but instead of pursuing black hat strategy and being evil, the efforts would be white hat-style and give back to the community what the community has foolishly and naively fallen for.

My question is primarily asking if this idea for exploitation seems possible or likely and if so, would I would like to expand upon what kinds of exploitation opportunities could potentially exist in which perhaps many individuals can pursue collectively to help combat the efforts pursued by those currently pwning us.

Note: I was looking for the particular video (last linked) for the material that I wanted to reference, and after reviewing the first two (linked) and not finding it, I did find some material from other videos (that may be somewhat related) and referenced them before encountering the last most notable video.
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January 17, 2011, 02:08:48 AM
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Ultimately I don't think there are any shortcuts that get us to a better world without honesty and empathy.

But maybe this is something like you are asking for. Instead of convincing people that democracy is bad since that will be hard to do, convince them that democracy is not voting in elections, but voting with your time and resources.

Or an info campaign designed to convince people that people who choose to collect dollars instead of friends or days at the beach don't deserve to be taken from any more than we should have 33% of our homemade cakes taken from us.

Is that the sort of thing you are talking about (but more sophisticated maybe)?

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January 17, 2011, 03:11:33 AM
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Well, considering the latest video, Living Free in an Unfree World: Stefan Molyneux at Libertopia 2010, it appears more clearly recognizable and understood that our society as it is now is achieved through a kind of exploitation in which a few individuals have learned or discovered away to dominate and control the masses.  Considering the concept of software exploits and the existence of very talented hardware and software hackers both of all types (black hat, gray/grey hat, white hat, etc) which are diversified in many different areas not necessarily limited to technology, it appears fairly reasonable to consider that similar efforts or talents of "hacking" can be pursued or established to help correct or resolve our flaw or bug in which majority of humanity are enslaved to minority or whatever else the bug or flaw is or if there are multiple bugs or flaws.  I imagine that in consideration of comparing our exploitation of society to exploitation of technology may help to establish similar methods of reason or logic regarding determining how individuals can help contribute towards fixing or patching the flaws, bugs, holes in which currently black hats continue to take advantage of the unpatched holes of society.  Does this make sense?
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