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January 28, 2018, 08:58:26 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2018, 10:21:33 PM by Thule
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I'm posting this thread since i'm shocked how some high ranked members are destroying the basic values of that forum.
The main idea of that forum always was to make it as decentralised as possible to prevent any kind of abuse.

Thats also why they added these two points into the guideline / terms

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Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.


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Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed?
A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales in other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security.


You can basicly sum it up to make sure no member on this forum will ever get falsly abused by "staff"  and make it as most decentralised as possible.

So what happened is that blazed choosed himself without any recommendation

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My goal when adding people to the Default Trust network was to help clean up the garbage posting on this forum. I understand people are all worked up over sea of red that ensued after my adding The Pharmacist and actmyname to DT2

You can basicly say
Lauda
ThePharmacist
actmyname
TMAN and some other of their group

started a massiv red trust feedback campaign which leaded to massiv comlaints to theymos since they abused their power very often calling members scammers destroying their trust and even destroyed compeition for self benefit.
I'm myself a victim of them too.I got accused of being a scammer for trying to buy back in august an account for a friend so he can posts pictures on BCT for his service thread.
I checked the guideline which clearly states its allowed and more i even contacted a Mod asking since i know many message boards doesnt allow it.
But at that time i even saw lending people accepting Accounts as colleteral which means for sale if they won't get their funds back.

So i have been accused of being a scammer and instantly messaged him that there is no rule saying its not allowed to buy accounts.
I got flamed by the group and got more negativ feedback with more false claims that i encourage scammers and spammers and some other bad staff which i never did.

I showed them proof that BCT is allowing to sell/buy accounts and that i didn't broke a single rule.I asked them based on what terms or rules did they call me a scammer and they claim its a community consensus.
I can say i'm reading that board since 2012 and am activ since 2014 and i never read about any consenus of that or ever agreed to follow anybodies nuts imagination but only the terms / guideline of that forum itself.
There were of course also no stickies which would be informing about it.
So i started collecting information about them since i gave them 24h to delete their false accuse or else i will start my revange by publishing their scams and abuse.
I got flooded with PM's of people who mainly got abused by Lauda and their group with false claims and even some compeitiors who claim they got their trust destroyed so they can push their own services which they run on the marketplace.

They basicly give a fuck if they abused it or not.Lauda even officaly said that he is not going to talk with anybody of the normal member since thats not his level.

So i started digging deeper and found out that Lauda got already punished once for scamming someone on this board and lost Moderator.It was Lauda ,TMAN and minifrij .
They always stick together.You can see them to exchange merit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282.0 even trust points and always attacking or defending togther .


So i found another thread from blazed who created basicly that group to clean up and who started that whole mess
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2816647.0

They are now celebrating that they forced theymos to create merit because of their massiv abuse.
Pathethic !!!!

Now it comes better have a read about their new plans to force project manager and ITO's to follow their created rules or else they will be defamed as corrupt.
They have so many sick ideas its just insane.
They basicly want to change that decentralised messageboard into an centralised one and give a shit about abused accounts.

This statement of blazed made me mad as hell.ANd something like that is a Mod

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Most of the red users I have seen are guilty of shit posting for pay
But forgat to mention that he didn't even tried to help the rest who were not guilty and got abused by their power.

I remember #1 post of guideline of that forum


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Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.


He/They are clearly breaking the rules of the forum themself to justify their own scam.
They are basicly now the CANCER #1 ON THIS BOARD

Please have a full read at that topic else it would be to long to write everything and please have a closer look how they laugh about accounts they knowlingly abused

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2816647.60

Blazed and the people he choosed himself are responsible that hundred's of legit accounts got destroyed which is unacceptable on a messageboard like BCT as its destroying the main values of that board of decentralised power to prevent abuse


Maybe someone explaines to these dumb people that once the coins and ITO's move away from this board because of them threatening them 3/4 of that board will move together with them because
people are not here because of that forum or because of you pissheads who are abusing their power but because of the coins and ITO.They will move after the money and you punks clearly have no money to make them stay.So piss on people legs which are bringing big money to this board and you will see how quickly you destroyed that board

link will be forwarded to theymos
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January 28, 2018, 09:13:51 PM
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3) you act like a scammer
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January 28, 2018, 09:19:43 PM
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1) I am not DT
2) I have not Negged you.
3) you act like a scammer
4) you actually act like a retarded scammer..



1)Never claimed that but you are part of that group with Lauda
2) agree
3) how is a scammer acting ?I guess like you attacking me at all my posts trying to discredit me and negging all evidences posted against members of your group.Oh btw you have been proofed to be a scammer for extrotion together with Lauda and miniji
4)thats how a scammer looks like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0
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January 28, 2018, 09:29:43 PM
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Whats up scammer you have been already once exposed to be a scammer.Now i will expose you for abuse of trust system ,merit system,destroying legit accounts,destroying competition working in a group to dominate that forum and marketplace and spreading fud
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January 30, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
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blazed we are waiting
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still waiting
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February 14, 2018, 08:05:46 PM
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I agree. When someone leaves a questionable rating, the person who put said “DT2” member in the default trust network should be held accountable, by reputation or otherwise.
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February 14, 2018, 08:22:51 PM
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My goal when adding people to the Default Trust network was to help clean up the garbage posting on this forum. I understand people are all worked up over sea of red that ensued after my adding The Pharmacist and actmyname to DT2

You can basicly say
Lauda
ThePharmacist
actmyname
TMAN and some other of their group

started a massiv red trust feedback campaign which leaded to massiv comlaints to theymos since they abused their power very often calling members scammers destroying their trust and even destroyed compeition for self benefit.

First of all, you can remove the DefaultTrust group from your trust network settings by putting a "~" in front of "DefaultTrust" in your trust settings.


Second and most important, the trust system is abused by most people on this forum. So if you're going to complain, don't isolate your complaint to a few members. People have given negative trust for shit as petty as not liking words that a person wrote in a post...no action or offense committed, just words.

The trust system is a joke...ignore it!
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February 14, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin  Life is so hard. I was wondering why people like to be in DT network. the trust system i dont know why it exist in this forum. You tagged a scammer and the same scammer still scamm people . With one click Theymos can resolve everything, theymos always choose the last option and leave the first option. Added 3 or 5 evil in the trust system ruined the forum. The forum should be decentralized and give everyone the same posibility to leave a red or a green. it should not stay in the hand of 2 or 3 abusers.
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February 14, 2018, 10:46:42 PM
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Blazed should not be held responsible for the actions of "Lauda, ThePharmacist, actmyname, TMAN and some other of their group". The people you mentioned are the only people responsible for their own actions. Blazed has made it pretty clear he doesn't enjoy the spamming around the boards for pay, which is probably why he added certain people to their Trust list; he believed these people were serving a specific purpose that was beneficial and he was not wrong in that regard. Blazed cannot know the intentions, long-term goals or micro manage every rating or action these people perform.

All I'm saying is you should try to hold those responsible that performed the actions you feel justice is deserve for. If you are upset about "Lauda, ThePharmacist, actmyname, TMAN and some other of their group" then go after each one of them individually, explaining why they are not fit for their position and if you can negotiate or convince DT members they will no longer have the effect you are worried about. As far as I know, none of these people are on DT anymore anyways. I might be wrong, and please correct me if I am.

The reason there are people being added to DT at all is because the workload is ever-increasing and must be distributed to more members that can be trusted with this responsibility; obviously there will be bumps and problems (due to the subjective nature of trust and the loose guidelines surrounding it) that we will iron out along the way, but it does not make sense to blame someone for the actions of another which they were not involved in whatsoever.
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