Using stove power outlet for mining?

[greyday]

Buy a 220V surge protector and 220V cords for your PSUs (assuming they can handle 220V, I've only ever used 220 with Bitmain PSUs, but I assume it's doable). You'll have multiple 220 outlets and up to around 7KW to play with (provided the surge protector can handle that much).

OMG, NO!

No what?

I'm talking about something like this:

https://smile.amazon.com/VCT-USP600-Universal-Built-Protector/dp/B0036ZE6V0/ref=pd_sim_23_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0036ZE6V0&pd_rd_r=H05GMZWBZ26NPNVSSJ1K&pd_rd_w=jOU71&pd_rd_wg=8qwms&psc=1&refRID=H05GMZWBZ26NPNVSSJ1K

though that maxes out around 3.5KW, so I wouldn't set up more than 2.8KW worth of mining gear on it. Still, that's not bad, and I'm sure if you looked around you could find higher amperage surge protectors. And again, making sure your PSU can handle 220 (check with the manufacturer or check to see if there is a switch on it that offers 220).

220V isn't something to be afraid of, it's the standard in most countries.

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[gotminer]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

JESUS CHRIST, There is no way I would ever do that.  You're going to use that and then try to plug a fucking surge protector into it for more outlets?

[jMEGA]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

That isn't the proper female plug for a 240V PDU. Most 240V PDUs have a L6-30P.

If you goto Lowes or Home Depot you can buy the parts needed to make an adapter.

[NeoCapo]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

That isn't the proper female plug for a 240V PDU. Most 240V PDUs have a L6-30P.

If you goto Lowes or Home Depot you can buy the parts needed to make an adapter.

So I guess something like this will be suitable for the PDU: https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-Electric-Vehicle-Pigtail-Adapter/dp/B074SFKZN9
And the PDU will look like this: https://www.amazon.ca/Tripp-Lite-PDUMV30HV-Metered-Vertical/dp/B0012VN0I0
Also, I've noticed that there is no 40 amp PDU... So If I use and 240V 30Amp PDU, I won't be able to go over 5760Watts (240V * 30Amp * 0.80%), even if my circuit allows me to have a little more, right?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[gotminer]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

That isn't the proper female plug for a 240V PDU. Most 240V PDUs have a L6-30P.

If you goto Lowes or Home Depot you can buy the parts needed to make an adapter.

Better yet.  Have the outlet replaced by someone who knows what they are doing, before plugging a pdu or any adapter into it.  And have them inspect the wiring to the breaker box as well.  I think my electrician used 8 romex, can't remember for sure.  Don't 40A pdu's exist?  I have no clue, because I use 30A breakers for the L6 outlets in my mining room that each pdu is connected to.  Each outlet has a 30A pdu on it that can power up to six of my 6 gpu rigs.  And if you don't know this already ... Don't use more than 80% capacity.  Bottom line is ... Don't fuck with electricity, if you don't know what you're doing.  At best, you'll kill your rigs, at worst you'll burn your house down.

[gotminer]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

That isn't the proper female plug for a 240V PDU. Most 240V PDUs have a L6-30P.

If you goto Lowes or Home Depot you can buy the parts needed to make an adapter.

So I guess something like this will be suitable for the PDU: https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-Electric-Vehicle-Pigtail-Adapter/dp/B074SFKZN9
And the PDU will look like this: https://www.amazon.ca/Tripp-Lite-PDUMV30HV-Metered-Vertical/dp/B0012VN0I0
Also, I've noticed that there is no 40 amp PDU... So If I use and 240V 30Amp PDU, I won't be able to go over 5760Watts (240V * 30Amp * 0.80%), even if my circuit allows me to have a little more, right?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I have one of those Tripp Lite PDU's that you linked to sitting in my closet.  That was the first pdu that I ever used.  Recently swapped them out for switched pdu's, so I could shut off, turn on, cycle power on individual pdu outlets remotely, but that will work and it displays amp draw.  Huge plus.  I would still have the breaker replaced with a 30A and it would probably be cheaper to have the outlet replaced so you can plug the l6-30p directly in, rather than buying that adapter.

[callmetonny]

Unless your electric installation is in very good shape I wouldn't do it, the wattage and amperage you will be using is nothing to joke with... Go see and electrician, I'm an enthusiast myself but what you plan to do is big.

[greyday]

You COULD also, if you're not using the outlet at all, install a breaker box and run 110 lines out of it. On a 40a 220 line you should be able to run 3-4 20a 110 lines safely. If you don't feel comfortable doing that DIY, hire an electrician.

[therealspidey]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

What you have posted is a 50A. Your oven, as most in North America are, is 40A. That one won’t work.

Also, what are you planning? Do you want to power multiple PSUs with this one 40A oven receptacle? If so, then most definitely you will need a PDU for that.

Do you want to power your PSUs with 240V ? Then that is also doable, but not in that current configuration.

Definitely have an electrician check and explain to him in detail what you want.

[gotminer]

You COULD also, if you're not using the outlet at all, install a breaker box and run 110 lines out of it. On a 40a 220 line you should be able to run 3-4 20a 110 lines safely. If you don't feel comfortable doing that DIY, hire an electrician.

That sounds asinine.  Why the fuck would you do that?  Not saying that you can't do it, but why would you?  You can run double the rigs at the same wattage on 240 as opposed to 120, because the amp draw is exactly 1/2, but you're ruling out the overload protection and equal distribution per outlet that a pdu will provide  ... And better efficiency at 208/220/240.  

[NeoCapo]

I guess hiring an electrician will be the best option for me now..
Thank you all for your advice's.

[QuintLeo]

So I guess something like this will be suitable for the PDU: https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-Electric-Vehicle-Pigtail-Adapter/dp/B074SFKZN9
And the PDU will look like this: https://www.amazon.ca/Tripp-Lite-PDUMV30HV-Metered-Vertical/dp/B0012VN0I0

 That would work, with the understanding that you're going to be limited by the 30 amp rating (then have to derate it to 24 amps for CONTINUOUS usage) of the PDU.

 Most PDUs are designed to work with a L6-30 because that's by far the most common power feed in most data centers.


 There is no "loss of power protection" in setting up a BREAKER BOX to feed from that outlet and split it out into smaller circuits - in the NEC it is called a "secondary panel" though most such are hard-wired, not plugged into an outlet.

 This used to be a COMMON setup in Mobile Homes (but was the PRIMARY panel there), feeding from a L14-50 for the entire home via a (usually) fairly long cable to plug into a pole-mounted outlet box - the usage is depreciated in recent code versions, but it still allowed in "existing" installations.

 A 40 amp 220 circuit will split out to 4 x 20 amp 117 VAC circuits safely, since the L14 provides the center tap "neutral" connection to do so.
 Or you could set up the secondary panel to provide 234 VAC instead, though 10 amp 234 VAC breakers are hard to find you could do a pair of 20 amp circuits, or a pair of 15 amp circuits (for the miners) and a pair of 10 amp 117 VAC circuits for other stuff that needs 117 VAC.

[greyday]

You COULD also, if you're not using the outlet at all, install a breaker box and run 110 lines out of it. On a 40a 220 line you should be able to run 3-4 20a 110 lines safely. If you don't feel comfortable doing that DIY, hire an electrician.

That sounds asinine.  Why the fuck would you do that?  Not saying that you can't do it, but why would you?  You can run double the rigs at the same wattage on 240 as opposed to 120, because the amp draw is exactly 1/2, but you're ruling out the overload protection and equal distribution per outlet that a pdu will provide  ... And better efficiency at 208/220/240.  

Efficiency to a degree is valid, yes, though in my house I've noticed an extremely negligible difference when testing antminer PSUs (though they are SUPPOSED to have significant efficiency variance).

Draw? 4x120=480W. 2x240=480W. How are you running double the rigs on the same wattage?

The switches will provide overload protection, and each individual line means tripping one doesn't kill the other three (though I imagine the PDU provides similar protection). 120s allow not having to replace the cords, surge protectors, etc, and allow for more versatile use, spreading machines around, running a spare line to another part of the house, etc. Unless you are specifically using the full capacity (well, 80% of full) a sub panel allows you to get more use out of the line...

EDIT: though to do it properly you'll also want to install a grounding pole, but those are cheap and pretty easy to hammer

[VirosaGITS]

Yep i've done it. I think i somewhat documented it somewhere but i cba to dig it out. Just make sure the plug is unpullable, it doesn't lock, normally the oven is in the way and that make it secure. You don't want see 35amps@240v arcing.

Awesome ! Can you tell me which adapter you have used to do this? And what other measure have you done to make it as most secure possible.

I bought a bright yellow oven replacement plug on amazon and to keep it secured i pushed the oven back in place. And i used a cheap as fuck 40A PDU used, maybe 75$ With some C20 outlets and for 2 * 8$ he shipped me power strip bar that gave C13's. On Ebay.

[gotminer]

You COULD also, if you're not using the outlet at all, install a breaker box and run 110 lines out of it. On a 40a 220 line you should be able to run 3-4 20a 110 lines safely. If you don't feel comfortable doing that DIY, hire an electrician.

That sounds asinine.  Why the fuck would you do that?  Not saying that you can't do it, but why would you?  You can run double the rigs at the same wattage on 240 as opposed to 120, because the amp draw is exactly 1/2, but you're ruling out the overload protection and equal distribution per outlet that a pdu will provide  ... And better efficiency at 208/220/240.  

Efficiency to a degree is valid, yes, though in my house I've noticed an extremely negligible difference when testing antminer PSUs (though they are SUPPOSED to have significant efficiency variance).

Draw? 4x120=480W. 2x240=480W. How are you running double the rigs on the same wattage?

You're able to run more on less amp draw with 240.  Not more wattage.  Maybe I said that wrong.  If you have 100amp service, that's your limit.  If you have 200amp service, that's your limit ...

[VirosaGITS]

You're able to run more on less amp draw with 240.  Not more wattage.  Maybe I said that wrong.  If you have 100amp service, that's your limit.  If you have 200amp service, that's your limit ...

I save maybe 1% Watts using EVGA G2/P2 ATX PSU's on 240v vs 120v. Some Server PSU have a big difference, like 4-5%, even as far as to have a TDP limit of 1100w on 240v or max 800w if they're plugged on 120v.

As for Amps, 240v is half the amp for the same wattage, that's why using 240v allowed me twice as much rigs in an apartment setup!

30a * 0.8 * 120v = 2880w limit
30a * 0.8 * 240v = 5760w limit

Basically, 240v is safer, since the risk is of burning down is a AMPERE thing. My rig will still pull 1kW~ but on 240v its 4A~ Instead of 8A~ so the power cord is cooler and less amp go through the socket.

[calvinwch]

As for what i know that 220-240v 40a are 3 wires plug and cable, which are 2 hot wire and 1 ground wire.  Each hot wire are still only 20a.
15a or 20a are normal outlet in most home in the US, which can hanle 1800/2400w.  I will reserve 20% of the load for safety due to if you are running the power consistently over 3 hours.  so you are talking about 1440/1920w per a breaker line (not each outlet).

With your kitchen 240v that really don't give you much if you running a 6-8gpu rig 1k-1.2kw.  which only allow you run 2 rigs or 3 max.   BTW most American home power line are 100a cable from outside, apartment that depend could be 100 or 200a.  you really  can't setup like mining farm, because you will max out your power line after 4 rigs that take 1kw+ each system.  Unless you not using any electricity at home, like Microwave, AC, Ranger, Fridge bla bla bla that draw power as well.

[gotminer]

You're able to run more on less amp draw with 240.  Not more wattage.  Maybe I said that wrong.  If you have 100amp service, that's your limit.  If you have 200amp service, that's your limit ...

I save maybe 1% Watts using EVGA G2/P2 ATX PSU's on 240v vs 120v. Some Server PSU have a big difference, like 4-5%, even as far as to have a TDP limit of 1100w on 240v or max 800w if they're plugged on 120v.

As for Amps, 240v is half the amp for the same wattage, that's why using 240v allowed me twice as much rigs in an apartment setup!

30a * 0.8 * 120v = 2880w limit
30a * 0.8 * 240v = 5760w limit

Basically, 240v is safer, since the risk is of burning down is a AMPERE thing. My rig will still pull 1kW~ but on 240v its 4A~ Instead of 8A~ so the power cord is cooler and less amp go through the socket.

Exactly what he said ... That's what I was getting at.

[philipma1957]

Certainly don't just buy a "adapter" and use a standard surge protector with it, because the plug fits.  Standard surge protectors are rated at 15A, in the USA at least.  ... You're talking multiple rigs anyway, right?  So you're going to want a PDU.  Spend the money on it, before you blow everything up.

And as we've seen in this very thread ... Electricians don't know everything.

I'm planning to buy this adapter : https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-P1450650-Generator-250-Volt-Adapter/dp/B00SSQIYLU
and a 40 amp PDU to distribute the power and not blow anything up lol
I'll be using around 3500+Watts. I'll talk with an electrician just in case... thanks for your help.

That isn't the proper female plug for a 240V PDU. Most 240V PDUs have a L6-30P.

If you goto Lowes or Home Depot you can buy the parts needed to make an adapter.

So I guess something like this will be suitable for the PDU: https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-Electric-Vehicle-Pigtail-Adapter/dp/B074SFKZN9
And the PDU will look like this: https://www.amazon.ca/Tripp-Lite-PDUMV30HV-Metered-Vertical/dp/B0012VN0I0
Also, I've noticed that there is no 40 amp PDU... So If I use and 240V 30Amp PDU, I won't be able to go over 5760Watts (240V * 30Amp * 0.80%), even if my circuit allows me to have a little more, right?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

@ op  buy the amazon adapter


https://www.amazon.ca/Conntek-Electric-Vehicle-Pigtail-Adapter/dp/B074SFKZN9

buy this


https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-EO4501-Modular-Power-Distribution-Unit-228481-002-24A-200-240VAC/152870314174?


you will be able to do 4x s-9s well 3 for sure

this one below is cheap good price

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Modular-PDU-Control-Unit-with-Extension-PDU-Bar-228481-001-E04500-/323024764121?

what I have found is these pdus  do 3 easy and 4 sometimes

depends on your voltage

I get 239-242 solid volts  which gives me  5736 to  5808 watts

you  may get less volts as low as 218  which is 5232 watts  that will not run 4 units of s-9

[VirosaGITS]

Exactly what he said ... That's what I was getting at.

There seem to be lots of confusion so my reply was more adding info that may help some people than aimed specifically at you.

As for what i know that 220-240v 40a are 3 wires plug and cable, which are 2 hot wire and 1 ground wire.  Each hot wire are still only 20a.
15a or 20a are normal outlet in most home in the US, which can hanle 1800/2400w.  I will reserve 20% of the load for safety due to if you are running the power consistently over 3 hours.  so you are talking about 1440/1920w per a breaker line (not each outlet).

With your kitchen 240v that really don't give you much if you running a 6-8gpu rig 1k-1.2kw.  which only allow you run 2 rigs or 3 max.   BTW most American home power line are 100a cable from outside, apartment that depend could be 100 or 200a.  you really  can't setup like mining farm, because you will max out your power line after 4 rigs that take 1kw+ each system.  Unless you not using any electricity at home, like Microwave, AC, Ranger, Fridge bla bla bla that draw power as well.

No. While 240v 40a is 3 or 4 wires, both hots are 40A, but at 120v, the ground and optionally the neutral are there but not any different from usual. Two 120v 20a give you 240v 20a, not 40a. Phil is correct as usual.