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February 02, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
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Yet another great post of people rewarding the newcomers and spending their time on reading. Thank you and keep up the good work.
So all those complaining, how they gonna rank up have to put some effort because now they have been given a chance to be rewarded.

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February 02, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2018, 11:24:13 PM by stronghandsdeeppockets
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Cool concept. I wish somebody did that for people who take part in bounty campaigns (which have a greater impact, like translations, articles, design etc.).
And if those 50 posts can't be high-quality, at least they should be helpful of some sort. Maybe help another user by explaning something. I think you should add that there.

Thanks for doing this. Despite not being able to take part in this, I appreciate the idea.
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February 03, 2018, 12:34:38 AM
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This explanation gives a lot of idea on how merits collected, well explained post will help getting merits. So this is how merits and Smerits work.
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February 03, 2018, 06:18:17 AM
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Cool concept. I wish somebody did that for people who take part in bounty campaigns (which have a greater impact, like translations, articles, design etc.).
And if those 50 posts can't be high-quality, at least they should be helpful of some sort. Maybe help another user by explaning something. I think you should add that there.

Thanks for doing this. Despite not being able to take part in this, I appreciate the idea.

I believe that working and helping out yourself is the first thing you need to do because even God helps those who help themselves (I'm not saying I'm God, just giving an example). You should watch others and learn, you must know what exactly a constructive post is - it has been answered many times. Still if you're unclear, I clear it to you - a constructive post is the one that contains all the information and OP expects when they ask something.

Now, what is spam?
- Insubstantial posts (posts containing nothing but thoughts without facts)
- Repeated posts (saying what's already said before)
- And there are many other considerations that come under the radar of moderators when it comes to spamming as it is not limited to the explanations I gave above.

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February 03, 2018, 06:44:32 AM
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Finally good explanation and great project. I wish I were Jn already and possessed any valuable knoledge. But for me still too much to learn to participate

Read my explanation about this, once again.
I never said that this is for Jr Members alone, and if any level of Jr Member or below make 50 high-quality posts in 2 weeks period and do according to the rules, they may probably be chosen by me if they really deserve it.
Let me dissolve a myth for you: Your Rank cannot define your knowledge here.
Even Legendaries get confused sometimes and ask for help, so don't feel down and believe in yourself. Unless you do, you won't be able to know your own potential.
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    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.it wll encourage more member to think and exert quality and useful thought before posting.not just for the sake of rank but general knowledge for everyone to learn...
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February 03, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
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Thank you very much for your explanation! Now everything is clear...
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February 03, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
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I would like to join to your candidates but first i would like to clarify 50 post in just 2 weeks.? Are we not be entitled spammers on that as newbie in this world.?

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February 03, 2018, 05:10:18 PM
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Great post Sted - I like it when people take the time out to explain to others how a feature works - good job mate Wink
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February 03, 2018, 05:19:17 PM
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I would like to join to your candidates but first i would like to clarify 50 post in just 2 weeks.? Are we not be entitled spammers on that as newbie in this world.?

Ummm, I believe NO. Because making 4 - 5 posts a day shouldn't be something to bother you if you are really intended in contributing, that too with something worth attention.

Ok, I'll update the OP with some changes here.
After seeing every newbie's concerns over being called a spammer with the activity I'm asking them to do, I've decided to ease it for them by changing the number of posts from 50 to 30. Now, you need to make 30 high-quality posts.

Great post Sted - I like it when people take the time out to explain to others how a feature works - good job mate Wink

Glad you liked it. Thanks for the appreciation.

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February 03, 2018, 05:33:04 PM
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Thanks for your generosity with giving away sMerits, sir. I will come back after one of two weeks with new CV.  Grin
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February 03, 2018, 05:37:45 PM
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Finally good explanation and great project. I wish I were Jn already and possessed any valuable knoledge. But for me still too much to learn to participate

Read my explanation about this, once again.
I never said that this is for Jr Members alone, and if any level of Jr Member or below make 50 high-quality posts in 2 weeks period and do according to the rules, they may probably be chosen by me if they really deserve it.
Let me dissolve a myth for you: Your Rank cannot define your knowledge here.
Even Legendaries get confused sometimes and ask for help, so don't feel down and believe in yourself. Unless you do, you won't be able to know your own potential.
I always try to follow this.But it is so much difficult for newbie. Because we are learning from our elders.we  have little knowledge about cryptocurrency world.how can we get more knowledge ?what topic should i post ?
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February 03, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2018, 07:16:36 PM by Stedsm
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I always try to follow this.But it is so much difficult for newbie. Because we are learning from our elders.we  have little knowledge about cryptocurrency world.how can we get more knowledge ?what topic should i post ?

Hope you won't mind this but I can't help you on this.
You need to do these things yourself as that's what you'll be rewarded for. I have already done everything in you guys' interests and I believe there's nothing more I can do here.
Sorry to say but you're not going to get anything if you expect everything served in your plate. So, no free lunches! You need to work hard to get them.

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February 03, 2018, 10:36:29 PM
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Awesome post, for helping the community out!
You can check out my activities and I'll try my best to help people on the community with my knowledge, besides my posts you can check out my YouTube channel on my profile if there is something you need me to review I'll do it now bias, many famous YouTubers are just reviewing for referral, and super bias but I honestly think that the community needs none bias reviews of course I place referral link if there is, it's for me to earn micro income for giving free content.

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February 14, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
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To those who've participated in this, first of all, a very Happy Valentine's Day to all of you. Hope you had a great day with your partner and family and still going on.
As this thread has completed 2 weeks already, I believe that the interested participants should show some confidence and quote the "best 10" of their 30 posts that they made during the given timeline (post only if completed).

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February 14, 2018, 04:27:16 PM
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Here and there, each and every newbie is worried about the new term "Merits" when it comes to ranking up.
Let me first elaborate it for you that what are merits?

A quote from a thread by theymos over Merits:

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Ok, I understood about Merits. But hey, why do we need it?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Oh! That's good. It's in the interest of forum to keep it free from spammers. But who will give us Merits?

Everyone including me are given few sMerits to be able to help each other (considering that the help is actually being provided to those who will try to help the forum by contributing with the best quality posts which really deserve an appreciation in the form of Merits). There are Merit sources too who will be giving sMerits to users whom they think - are delivering quality over quantity. But, as they are too given limited Merits to be served, I believe people like us should also come ahead and help.

Just like TMAN, I am here to share my sMerits with those who literally deserve them as hoarding them with myself won't be benefic both to me and the forum users, as well as a possible injustice to them.

So, my rules are clear:
  • Make 30 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 30 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 30, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

I will choose 10 persons who will be entitled with 5 sMerits each and to make it useful for the ones who really need it, I am making this thing limited for up to Jr Member levels only. This means that those who possess Member and above ranks will not be able to be a part of this (will include them later if this one proves to be a successful beginning of an era of high-quality posts).

Good luck, folks!

This is by far the most informative and helpful post regarding the Merit system. This clearly explain how Merit works and how the Merit system will be able to help us as a community. Also don't forget to share your merits to other people that really deserve them, after all not distributing or sending your "sMerit" to other people does not benefit you.
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To those who've participated in this, first of all, a very Happy Valentine's Day to all of you. Hope you had a great day with your partner and family and still going on.
As this thread has completed 2 weeks already, I believe that the interested participants should show some confidence and quote the "best 10" of their 30 posts that they made during the given timeline (post only if completed).

I'm interested in participating with my posts.. I have been posting for about 4 days total now and should be around 50 posts.. most of my knowledge comes from bitcoin daytrading/altcoin position trading.

I'm not sure if by quote you mean linking to the post itself or quoting the entire post.. so I'll just post the links I guess to my posts that I feel were the best I have offered in the past 50 posts..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2944431.msg30246763#msg30246763
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2658522.msg30248372#msg30248372
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2945365.msg30249663#msg30249663
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2934028.msg30175221#msg30175221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2945365.msg30249663#msg30249663
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2546272.msg30106574#msg30106574
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2934741.msg30183033#msg30183033
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2934110.msg30170225#msg30170225
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2934207.msg30162961#msg30162961
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2945597.msg30304956#msg30304956
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2717382.msg30115395#msg30115395

I hope this is what you wanted and in the format you wanted it in, and that I actually understood the instructions.. was hoping I could follow others in the format they were posting but alas, here goes nothing.

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February 15, 2018, 01:23:57 AM
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Im still a newbie here, but ill try my very best to gain rewards, Good thing we came out to this kind of policy, This is very helpful in developing our posting skills and establish  productive discussion in the forum.  Wink

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February 15, 2018, 01:29:47 AM
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Here and there, each and every newbie is worried about the new term "Merits" when it comes to ranking up.
Let me first elaborate it for you that what are merits?

A quote from a thread by theymos over Merits:

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Ok, I understood about Merits. But hey, why do we need it?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Oh! That's good. It's in the interest of forum to keep it free from spammers. But who will give us Merits?

Everyone including me are given few sMerits to be able to help each other (considering that the help is actually being provided to those who will try to help the forum by contributing with the best quality posts which really deserve an appreciation in the form of Merits). There are Merit sources too who will be giving sMerits to users whom they think - are delivering quality over quantity. But, as they are too given limited Merits to be served, I believe people like us should also come ahead and help.

Just like TMAN, I am here to share my sMerits with those who literally deserve them as hoarding them with myself won't be benefic both to me and the forum users, as well as a possible injustice to them.

So, my rules are clear:
  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

I will choose 10 persons who will be entitled with 5 sMerits each and to make it useful for the ones who really need it, I am making this thing limited for up to Jr Member levels only. This means that those who possess Member and above ranks will not be able to be a part of this (will include them later if this one proves to be a successful beginning of an era of high-quality posts).

Good luck, folks!

You're doing nothing but encouraging spam.

Seriously.

50 - FIFTY! high-quality (who judges this?) posts in TWO WEEKS - i.e. 4 per day - to get 5 miserable sMerit from you? So they have to do that 2 months in a row to get Member status?

Are you fucking JOKING?

I'll just assume you are.

Two things will happen here:
- You'll get spammed with crap, and you'll eventually just hand out the sMerit because you're tired.
- The Newbie forum will get spammed with crap, trying to make you tired. And they will win.

I'd rather be patient and earn it off my own input, tbh.

Are the DTs (particularly DT2, who as we know are very trigger happy indeed) aware of what you are posting here?

Rethink this post, please.

I came here looking for information about how the forum membership works and a thoroughly agree with this all the way. I will say though I didn't realise that It could take such a long time to acquire great overlord status Tongue 

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February 15, 2018, 03:07:41 AM
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I think it would be much easier to write a book... Tongue

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February 15, 2018, 06:51:06 AM
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I like what you doing, but I am not 100% sure if you are doing this in the correct manner. We should not encourage people to post within a required post count. The interaction should come naturally, like you would be walking around at a party and joining discussions that spark your interest. <It should not be forced>

The main focus of the merit system, should be to improve the post quality, not the quantity. It also serve as a educational tool for people to see what quality posting looks like. <You examine these merited posts and apply what you have learned on your posts to improve your posting.>

I would remove the minimum post requirement and just concentrate on highlighting the quality posts that adds value to the forum.  ^smile^

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