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July 15, 2011, 01:32:01 AM
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+1.  Exactly.  Well if you have smartphone with internet, then it is possible to set up.  I wish I had done that.  But it is easy to forget to press "record".  I have actually been wanting to make a simple open-source dash cam.  Something that you don't have to remember to press record and you don't have to worry about it running out of batteries, and it always stores the incomming video to an encrypted micro sd card.  If it is late at night or you have been partying too much, it is very easy to forget to press record before driving home.

Self-incrimination device?  Cheesy

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July 15, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
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+1.  Exactly.  Well if you have smartphone with internet, then it is possible to set up.  I wish I had done that.  But it is easy to forget to press "record".  I have actually been wanting to make a simple open-source dash cam.  Something that you don't have to remember to press record and you don't have to worry about it running out of batteries, and it always stores the incomming video to an encrypted micro sd card.  If it is late at night or you have been partying too much, it is very easy to forget to press record before driving home.

Self-incrimination device?  Cheesy

Cheesy well that is the point of having the recorder encrypt the video before writing to the micro SD card.  But yeah, with the way the DoJ is going, you will probably be charged with storing child poem by default for having an encrypted file on your dash cam.

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July 15, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
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charged with storing child poem by default for having an encrypted file on your dash cam.

Posting from your phone? DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT!!!

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July 15, 2011, 02:51:57 PM
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charged with storing child poem by default for having an encrypted file on your dash cam.

Posting from your phone? DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT!!!

Lol.  Guilty as charged.

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July 15, 2011, 06:50:49 PM
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Lucky for you guys... Angry  over here in England its now braking the law to film police beating people etc.

I have some reading up on this to do I think.

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July 16, 2011, 01:17:54 AM
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http://boingboing.net/2011/06/24/copwatch-and-openwat.html

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As someone wha has helped organize a copwatch in multiple cities (and spent time in jail cells, had cameras smashed, had cameras stolen, etc, etc I think the rise of surveillance tools to hold cops accountable is hugely important/exciting) -- perhaps even for more pressing issues than seatbelt tickets Wink
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July 16, 2011, 01:34:25 AM
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Lucky for you guys... Angry  over here in England its now braking the law to film police beating people etc.

I have some reading up on this to do I think.

This... is both terrifying and infuriating.

They can film you, but you can't film them? What about requesting the footage from the incident on the street cams?

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July 16, 2011, 01:36:28 AM
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Lucky for you guys... Angry  over here in England its now braking the law to film police beating people etc.

I have some reading up on this to do I think.

This... is both terrifying and infuriating.

They can film you, but you can't film them? What about requesting the footage from the incident on the street cams?

The police don't do anything wrong. It's a public service by the people and for the people.

 If you don't like what they do, run for office and change it!
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July 16, 2011, 02:45:55 AM
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Last time I tried to ignore a cop he grabbed my car keys and threw them in the bushes on the side of the road...

The only thing worse than a leo is an angry leo - especially when theres no witnesses or cameras.

Now I carry a camera everywhere just in case. I even bought one of those ones that sits in your car and records the whole surrounding area.

The camera is the new gun.

Does it stream recordings to a safe place? If not, what's to stop the military police from taking your car in "as evidence" if they can't find all the recordings or taking all the recordings?

I'd like such a camera with a button in my car which automatically buys lots of internet advertising where people can see the live video if they click it, and a video screen you can show the cop of what he just did on camera and how many are watching. Of course then he takes you where the camera can't see, but at least then people know about it.

I'm not saying all cops are like that, but power corrupts.

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July 17, 2011, 06:08:59 AM
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Shit, I feel sorry for you guys in the lower 48 (and Europe).  The cops up here are pretty good for the most part, I haven't had any bad experiences with them.  Knock on wood.

I want to design a cheap, camera system that will link with your smart phone and stream to a home server like you guys are talking about. I've been thinking about this for a while. Besides, then I could sell them for bitcoins...  Smiley
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July 17, 2011, 07:51:59 AM
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Shit, I feel sorry for you guys in the lower 48 (and Europe).  The cops up here are pretty good for the most part, I haven't had any bad experiences with them.  Knock on wood.

I want to design a cheap, camera system that will link with your smart phone and stream to a home server like you guys are talking about. I've been thinking about this for a while. Besides, then I could sell them for bitcoins...  Smiley

Do it, I will buy it.

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