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February 19, 2018, 08:08:49 PM
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do anyone use this coin?
yeah, cool little coin!
check out their discord
awesome community! Cheesy
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February 19, 2018, 08:25:59 PM
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Hi any way to check balance online ?

don't think there's one yet. if you have it in your gui wallet, gotta check your wallet.
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February 20, 2018, 07:50:26 AM
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“One Trillion Turtles: Coin Supply and Unit Economics” @_turtlecoin https://medium.com/@turtlecoin/one-trillion-turtles-coin-supply-and-unit-economics-5bfbea0aa1f1

The highlight from that article, remove the decimal places from these coins and this is how many units there are of each coin.

Code:
TRTL:               100,000,000,000,000

BTC:              2,100,000,000,000,000

IOTA:             2,779,530,283,277,761

LTC:               8,400,000,000,000,000

ETH: 97,879,990,190,000,000,000,000,000


1 Trillion + 2 decimals is less than 21 Million + 8 decimals.
I can do 2 decimal math in my head, 8 decimals, not so much...

1 Trillion sounds big compared to 21million, as soon as you remove the decimal and focus on actual units, it turns out to be less.


That's easy for YOU to say...  I mean... That requires actually using your brain and doing simple math.
The crypto world is inundated with low IQ miners and/or investors.  Simple math simply does not compute.


I'm afraid numerical scales are not unversal.
For my understanding as I learned at school:
1,000,000 = 1 million
1,000,000,000,000 = 1 billion (or a million of millions)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = 1 trillion (or a million of -previous- billions)
... and so on.

so, I think we better state numbers instead of words :-)

Cheers,


1 trillion lmao. I see the logic behind the decimals but that's a backwards ass way of thinking lol. The coin has a trillion coins. Period. You can move the decimal around all you want, but that's doesn't change anything.

The logic behind the small "0.01" is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Yes, I understand the math is technically correct (and yea theoretically it has a smaller supply), but all of this is assuming the valuation of the coins would even reach such a low decimal value (which **spoilers** they never will). You never see people sending .00000001 bitcoin (heck the tx fee of bitcoin is ~135 satoshi/byte) or .00000002 ETH to each other so that makes your comparison worthless.

The .01 decimal nonsense is stupid since the coin is valued in terms of satoshis which is an even higher -E^N multiplier. When was the last time any of you used/sent BTC past a few decimal points without losing half of your sending amount lol. And that's bitcoin which has the highest USD value. It's even worse with other coins. Most people don't use anything past a couple decimal points which like a mentioned earlier. Makes the comparison useless.

Look at the valuation in dollar/BTC of those coins you listed and you will see how stupid of a comparison it is.

People will glace and see a trillion and not even bother with it. Not to mention the name is supper trolly which will turn off half the people.

I like crypto
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February 20, 2018, 09:05:02 AM
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“One Trillion Turtles: Coin Supply and Unit Economics” @_turtlecoin https://medium.com/@turtlecoin/one-trillion-turtles-coin-supply-and-unit-economics-5bfbea0aa1f1

The highlight from that article, remove the decimal places from these coins and this is how many units there are of each coin.

Code:
TRTL:               100,000,000,000,000

BTC:              2,100,000,000,000,000

IOTA:             2,779,530,283,277,761

LTC:               8,400,000,000,000,000

ETH: 97,879,990,190,000,000,000,000,000


1 Trillion + 2 decimals is less than 21 Million + 8 decimals.
I can do 2 decimal math in my head, 8 decimals, not so much...

1 Trillion sounds big compared to 21million, as soon as you remove the decimal and focus on actual units, it turns out to be less.


That's easy for YOU to say...  I mean... That requires actually using your brain and doing simple math.
The crypto world is inundated with low IQ miners and/or investors.  Simple math simply does not compute.


I'm afraid numerical scales are not unversal.
For my understanding as I learned at school:
1,000,000 = 1 million
1,000,000,000,000 = 1 billion (or a million of millions)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = 1 trillion (or a million of -previous- billions)
... and so on.

so, I think we better state numbers instead of words :-)

Cheers,


1 trillion lmao. I see the logic behind the decimals but that's a backwards ass way of thinking lol. The coin has a trillion coins. Period. You can move the decimal around all you want, but that's doesn't change anything.

The logic behind the small "0.01" is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Yes, I understand the math is technically correct (and yea theoretically it has a smaller supply), but all of this is assuming the valuation of the coins would even reach such a low decimal value (which **spoilers** they never will). You never see people sending .00000001 bitcoin (heck the tx fee of bitcoin is ~135 satoshi/byte) or .00000002 ETH to each other so that makes your comparison worthless.

The .01 decimal nonsense is stupid since the coin is valued in terms of satoshis which is an even higher -E^N multiplier. When was the last time any of you used/sent BTC past a few decimal points without losing half of your sending amount lol. And that's bitcoin which has the highest USD value. It's even worse with other coins. Most people don't use anything past a couple decimal points which like a mentioned earlier. Makes the comparison useless.

Look at the valuation in dollar/BTC of those coins you listed and you will see how stupid of a comparison it is.

People will glace and see a trillion and not even bother with it. Not to mention the name is supper trolly which will turn off half the people.

I'm not sure it's that backwards, the number of atomic units is, ultimately ALL that counts in supply terms.

Also, i'm not sure you can compare to other coins, because of the obscene network fees you are right, you don't see people sending small amounts.  But that is a structural fault in the coin network.  If the value rises too much, then it fails to be useful for any kind of real currency ("Hey, how much for the coffee, 0.0001 BTC, but you have to pay a $7 charge").  This makes them useful for other things, but prohibitive for small, or by side effect, fast transfers.

But ultimately, unless I misunderstood your post, your statements about fractions of the more valuable coins pretty much validates the reason for a deliberately smaller value coin with less precision.  And with the network fee being less than 1 satoshi currently, it is completely inconsequential how many or how much is sent.
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February 20, 2018, 02:19:48 PM
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I believe that turtles are a very good and promising project. People really work on it and develop it.
But there is a request to the organizers. More lay out the news here about your updates and innovations. Your medium here post, that people would see how active you are.
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February 20, 2018, 02:22:51 PM
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I believe that turtles are a very good and promising project. People really work on it and develop it.
But there is a request to the organizers. More lay out the news here about your updates and innovations. Your medium here post, that people would see how active you are.

That is a good point, I will flag that for the Coin Elders.
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February 20, 2018, 05:01:57 PM
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Turtlecoin github is just so active if you check: https://github.com/turtlecoin/turtlecoin

Updates are applied constantly
The only problem i think with TRTL coin is the supply, 1 Trillion is just too much imo.

If we were to reduce the total supply, a hard fork would be needed?
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February 20, 2018, 07:07:04 PM
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Turtlecoin github is just so active if you check: https://github.com/turtlecoin/turtlecoin

Updates are applied constantly
The only problem i think with TRTL coin is the supply, 1 Trillion is just too much imo.

If we were to reduce the total supply, a hard fork would be needed?

I think if you reduced it below 1TN, it just wouldn't be viable.  It's already far less than most other coins.
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February 21, 2018, 03:18:32 AM
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“One Trillion Turtles: Coin Supply and Unit Economics” @_turtlecoin https://medium.com/@turtlecoin/one-trillion-turtles-coin-supply-and-unit-economics-5bfbea0aa1f1

The highlight from that article, remove the decimal places from these coins and this is how many units there are of each coin.

Code:
TRTL:               100,000,000,000,000

BTC:              2,100,000,000,000,000

IOTA:             2,779,530,283,277,761

LTC:               8,400,000,000,000,000

ETH: 97,879,990,190,000,000,000,000,000


1 Trillion + 2 decimals is less than 21 Million + 8 decimals.
I can do 2 decimal math in my head, 8 decimals, not so much...

1 Trillion sounds big compared to 21million, as soon as you remove the decimal and focus on actual units, it turns out to be less.


That's easy for YOU to say...  I mean... That requires actually using your brain and doing simple math.
The crypto world is inundated with low IQ miners and/or investors.  Simple math simply does not compute.


I'm afraid numerical scales are not unversal.
For my understanding as I learned at school:
1,000,000 = 1 million
1,000,000,000,000 = 1 billion (or a million of millions)
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 = 1 trillion (or a million of -previous- billions)
... and so on.

so, I think we better state numbers instead of words :-)

Cheers,



Ummmmmm  NO.....

Numerical scales are in fact UNIVERSAL....

I don't know what planet you went to school on, but here on Earth....

1 million is always 1,000,000 or 1.000.000
1 billion is always 1,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000
1 trillion is always 1,000,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000.000

Some places use a .(period) instead of a ,(comma) but ALL places use the same number of 0(zeros)

But hey.... If you can get a bank to give you 1billion(1,000,000,000,000) instead of 1billion (1,000,000,000) let me know, I'm sure I can rally enough investors to get in on that gold mine.



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February 21, 2018, 03:56:03 AM
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Turtlecoin github is just so active if you check: https://github.com/turtlecoin/turtlecoin

Updates are applied constantly
The only problem i think with TRTL coin is the supply, 1 Trillion is just too much imo.

If we were to reduce the total supply, a hard fork would be needed?

I think if you reduced it below 1TN, it just wouldn't be viable.  It's already far less than most other coins.

no need : D

btw, the community is really active and fun as hell. Love it <3
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February 21, 2018, 07:08:26 AM
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Ummmmmm  NO.....

Numerical scales are in fact UNIVERSAL....

I don't know what planet you went to school on, but here on Earth....

1 million is always 1,000,000 or 1.000.000
1 billion is always 1,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000
1 trillion is always 1,000,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000.000


In the UK, the traditional Billion is 1 Million Millions, and a Trillion is 1 Million Billions.  Generally we have fully transitioned to the simpler American version and not the traditional roman version nowadays, but they are marked when referencing material from the 70/80's which use the old scales.

So, sadly, there are differences and that is a FACT.  Although those are very rare to see nowadays, and you would certainly not expect to see it in any newer technology such as a crypto currency.
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February 21, 2018, 07:31:52 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales
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February 21, 2018, 05:04:45 PM
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Turtle turtle, dot dot
I got my cooties shot
I think that TRTLs hot
I'll give it booty shots
That TRTLs so hot make it drop
Do the drop drop, do the drop drop, do the make it drop
To the floor, let's get raw
Okay, gimme some more

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February 21, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
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Turtle turtle, dot dot
I got my cooties shot
I think that TRTLs hot
I'll give it booty shots
That TRTLs so hot make it drop
Do the drop drop, do the drop drop, do the make it drop
To the floor, let's get raw
Okay, gimme some more

haha, piece brother ...
mining turtles for about a week now with one of my older cards, so far so good ...
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February 21, 2018, 07:31:38 PM
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What the hell is this coin, I am intrigued  Cheesy

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February 22, 2018, 11:04:45 AM
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Ummmmmm  NO.....

Numerical scales are in fact UNIVERSAL....

I don't know what planet you went to school on, but here on Earth....

1 million is always 1,000,000 or 1.000.000
1 billion is always 1,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000
1 trillion is always 1,000,000,000,000 or 1.000.000.000.000


In the UK, the traditional Billion is 1 Million Millions, and a Trillion is 1 Million Billions.  Generally we have fully transitioned to the simpler American version and not the traditional roman version nowadays, but they are marked when referencing material from the 70/80's which use the old scales.

So, sadly, there are differences and that is a FACT.  Although those are very rare to see nowadays, and you would certainly not expect to see it in any newer technology such as a crypto currency.

I grew up in the UK in the 1970s and 1980s, and I can confirm that this is correct.  A billion is a million million, A trillion is a million billion, and so on.  In fact, although the US nomenclature has become widely adopted in the ENGLISH speaking world, in fact in the non-English speaking world, it is more like the 1 billion = 1 million million, etc.

Consider German:

What US speakers of English call 1 TRILLION is called "eine Billion" which is what it is in UK English, 1 Billion.  

Spanish:

I Trillion (US) is "una billón"

Italian:

1 Trillion (US) is "un bilione"

French:

1 Trillion (US) is "un billion"

Dutch:

1 Trillion (US) is "biljoen"

Swedish:

1 Trillion (US) is "biljon"

Polish:

1 Trillion (US) is "bilion"

Czech:

1 Trillion (US) is "bilión"

There are a few exceptions (Polish, Russion, maybe Turkish) but in general throughout the world the word "billion" and its cognates refers to 1012 not 109.

Here is what the Oxford English Dictionary has to say on this:



billion

(ˈbɪljən)

[a. F. billion, purposely formed in 16th c. to denote the second power of a MILLION (by substituting BI- prefix2 for the initial letters), trillion and quadrillion being similarly formed to denote its 3rd and 4th powers. The name appears not to have been adopted in Eng. before the end of the 17th c.: see quot. from Locke. Subsequently the application of the word was changed by French arithmeticians, figures being divided in numeration into groups of threes, instead of sixes, so that F. billion, trillion, denoted not the second and third powers of a million, but a thousand millions and a thousand thousand millions. In the 19th century, the U.S. adopted the French convention, but Britain retained the original and etymological use (to which France reverted in 1948).
   Since 1951 the U.S. value, a thousand millions, has been increasingly used in Britain, especially in technical writing and, more recently, in journalism; but the older sense ‘a million millions’ is still common.]

1.1 orig. and still commonly in Great Britain: A million millions. (= U.S. trillion.)

2.2 In U.S., and increasingly in Britain: A thousand millions.



So although it is tempting to blame the Americans, it is actually the French who are to blame for all this confusion.
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February 22, 2018, 11:22:56 AM
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I really like this coin...especially the long-term perspective of the idea behind the coin.
Cheers. Smiley
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February 22, 2018, 06:06:38 PM
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Turtle turtle, dot dot
I got my cooties shot
I think that TRTLs hot
I'll give it booty shots
That TRTLs so hot make it drop
Do the drop drop, do the drop drop, do the make it drop
To the floor, let's get raw
Okay, gimme some more

We could send you to concerts with a nice t-shirt representing the TurtleCoin logo and you could shout out some nice rhymes accompanied by some tight beatzZ  Cool

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February 22, 2018, 10:14:36 PM
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Good project , i mining the turtle with my 6 GTX1070  Smiley
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February 23, 2018, 04:45:16 AM
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Turtle turtle, dot dot
I got my cooties shot
I think that TRTLs hot
I'll give it booty shots
That TRTLs so hot make it drop
Do the drop drop, do the drop drop, do the make it drop
To the floor, let's get raw
Okay, gimme some more

We could send you to concerts with a nice t-shirt representing the TurtleCoin logo and you could shout out some nice rhymes accompanied by some tight beatzZ  Cool
LOL,I guess he'll be pleasantly surprised. After all, he wrote a turtle song. Grin
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