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February 04, 2018, 04:17:53 AM
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Can anyone give me some advice on configuring the gpu plotter devices.txt file for an RX580 8GB? Right now it is slower than my RX 550...
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February 04, 2018, 04:36:09 AM
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Has anyone attempted to host on Sia? Lots of buzz/drama around mining it since Bitmain just shipped an ASIC for it, but I haven't heard anything about profiting via hosting. I'm unfamiliar with Storj and Burst (have only heard of them) but have at least poked around the Sia client.

It looks like for Sia you could probably net just under $4/TB/month. Would be interesting to see how Storj and Burst stack up on a $/TB/month basis.

Poking around Newegg it looks like the best you're going to get for storage space is around $40/TB, so ROI just over 10 months.
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February 04, 2018, 06:37:06 AM
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Can anyone give me some advice on configuring the gpu plotter devices.txt file for an RX580 8GB? Right now it is slower than my RX 550...
Using the Windows GPU Plotter:
1) open the newly created "gpuPlotGenerator-bin-win-x86-2.0.0" folder that was created in the previous step

2) In an empty space within the "gpuPlotGenerator-bin-win-x86-2.0.0" folder do the following:
Hold down the "shift" key and right-click in an empty spot. Select "Open command window here"
(Note: the "Open command window here" option is only available if you hold Shift and Right-Click)
(Alternatively, you could just open a command window manually and do a "CD" to the folder containing the gpuPlotGenerator.exe file)

3) Run the following command to list the GPU's Platform and Platform ID:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list platforms
Note down the "ID" number for the proper device platform, this number will be <platformId> in the next step

Example:

4) Run the following commands to find the DeviceID's of the device in your system, replacing <platformId> with the number you noted down in the last step:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list devices <platformId>

Example:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list devices 0

Note down the "ID" number for the proper device to use, this will be <deviceId> in the next step
Note down the "Max global memory size" number, this will be the MAXIMUM <stagger> we are able to set

5) Finally, create the desired plotting information. Here is the basic syntax for the app:
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gpuPlotGenerator.exe generate <platformId> <deviceId> "<Plot folder path>" <AccountNumber> <StartingPlot> <NumberOfPlots> <Stagger> <Threads> <Hashes>

<platformId> = The ID# we found in Step 3 (In my case, this was 0)
<deviceId> = The ID# we found in Step 4 (In my case, this was also 0)
<Plot folder path> = The folder you wish to have plots created (Ex: C:\Path to\plots)
<AccountNumber> = This is your Numeric Burstcoin wallet address (Ex: 11111222223333344444)
<StartingPlot> = The plot number you would like to start generating at
<NumberOfPlots> = The number of plots to create from the StartingPlot
<Stagger> = Amount of memory to use on the GPU, in MB. (Ex: I set mine to 1024, instead of my MAX of 1265)
<Threads> = Amount of parallel GPU threads to use (Typically either 64, 128 or 256 depending on the capabilities of your card) (believe this may be tied to "Max work group size", but have no way to confirm)
<Hashes> = Number of chunks the GPU will split work into. (Ranges from 1 to 8160, this is purely guess work... so start low-ish and try to go up as close to 8160 as you can as higher numbers stress the GPU more)

As an example, this is the command that I used on my AMD Radeon 7800:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe generate 0 0 "C:\Path to\plots" 11111222223333344444 14670000 7335000 1000 64 1024
Note: The above command is probably not optimized for the best speed... but it's just an example that works for my card
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February 04, 2018, 08:09:17 AM
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magbe i think you can choose a another coin which is new,will be more profitable.
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February 04, 2018, 09:28:24 AM
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Any new hdd mining coins on horizon?
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February 04, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
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It looks like for Sia you could probably net just under $4/TB/month. Would be interesting to see how Storj and Burst stack up on a $/TB/month basis.
Much less on Burst at the moment: https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate
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February 04, 2018, 09:32:52 AM
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somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx
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February 04, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
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somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx

I think the consensus is the external HDD's heat up more and can be more prone to failure.

If your are using Windows you can add a hard drive or two and mine Burst or whatever as it doesn't use much resources.
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February 04, 2018, 10:56:37 AM
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As i specified on topic creating im new at this and chose to go for Storj. But now im gonna use 1TB and try out burst seriously, for one month. If you follow this thread i will come back in 1 month and give you comparison between Storj and Burst. I will probobly be heard from before, becourse i might need help setting up burst Cheesy Currently plotting the drive.
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February 04, 2018, 12:02:02 PM
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somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx

I think the consensus is the external HDD's heat up more and can be more prone to failure.

If your are using Windows you can add a hard drive or two and mine Burst or whatever as it doesn't use much resources.

External or Internal they gather heat only while you are plotting them. After you plot them, mining generates literally no heat at all. No heat, no power consumption. You can generate your plots on your internal HDD and move to your ext. HDD if you like. I personally didn't bother with that. Just plotted them and left them mining. No problems. That's it if you are plotting 3.5" drives btw, do not never ever plot your 2.5" ext. drives. I did plot one of mine and i am not sure but it is half dead now. Read/Write speed randomly goes very low. I probably killed it.

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February 04, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
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and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx
That's what I'm doing. You should expect days to plot, though.
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February 04, 2018, 07:26:00 PM
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yes
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx
That's what I'm doing. You should expect days to plot, though.

haha yes im at 600 nonces per minute  Cheesy
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February 04, 2018, 10:46:55 PM
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Storj is WAY worse than BURST now. So I completely switched to BURST. Have two rigs: 1) 47Tb and 2) 61Tb

Mainly 10Tb HDDs. Planning to try new 12Tb, can buy them with 20% discount
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February 04, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
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Calatravo> Oh, that's bad, I was achieving over 1000 with a shitty Celeron 3900, one core and 1 GB of allocated RAM.
Also, I've had to decrease slightly the plotting priority so that the GPU mining wouldn't be affected.

ps_jb> What a huge operation! To scale it to that level, do you use a NAS or some dedicated hardware?
An idea of your cost-per-TB?
Plotting solution?
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February 05, 2018, 12:29:43 AM
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^

Any chance of a group buy? Are you located in Europe by chance? Nice discount - how did you manage to bag it?  Grin

I have looked into all three coins and Burst seems good, but Storj isn't far off. Maybe $2 per TB. Would it make sense to mine 70% Burst and 30% Storj?

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February 05, 2018, 09:52:51 AM
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Hi Guys,

Just my findings.

Plotting....with Ryzen 1700 no o/c about 17,000 nonces / min, so 1Tb takes around 4-5 hours I seem to remember

Mining with 28.92TB getting around 10-30 coins a day...have tried various pools, some people seem to be getting about double what I get but even so 20-60 burst a day is simply not worth it (30 burst roughly £0.70 per day - 4 x 8tb drives cost £760, so about 1000 days ROI) oh and full ring takes 115Watts which in the Uk is about £0.39 a day so profit is about 31p a day...

Not trying to put a downer on things, I really enjoyed mining burst last January, and made around 30,000 which I sold for around 12 sats (up from 6 sats), but now I think you need to have upwards of 100TB to make it worth while, and I honestly don't know how you buy 100Tb of space cheap enough...
I'll keep running through to the summer, but only because I have already bought the drives, but right now if I didn't own them, I certainly wouldn't buy them specially for burst (or storj), simply too low a return.
Talk to as many peeps as poss, some may have much better luck than me, also half the values from any calculators you see online, they really are a very enthusiastic guide.
Also in terms of expected difficulty there are several miners building 1PB (1000TB) rigs which will be live in the next few weeks, so diff will jump massively...so go careful and enjoy.
J
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February 05, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
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Calatravo> Oh, that's bad, I was achieving over 1000 with a shitty Celeron 3900, one core and 1 GB of allocated RAM.
Also, I've had to decrease slightly the plotting priority so that the GPU mining wouldn't be affected.

ps_jb> What a huge operation! To scale it to that level, do you use a NAS or some dedicated hardware?
An idea of your cost-per-TB?
Plotting solution?

A cheap old AMD x4 845 (quad core with AVX2) will plot at about 8000 nonces / min
If you are going multi drive, use gpupoltter and plot to say 3-4 drives at once...it will take hours to get the correct settings but when you do, you could plot say 8000 nonces / min on each of 4 drives at the same time...
I don't have my old settings (I plotted last lot with cpu) but with R9 270 I think I was plotting 1TB on 3 drives at about 11,000 nonces/min each, so about 3TB every 6 hours...although NVidia has ocl support, if gpu plotting use an AMD card, must better. (remember to use buffered and then optimise - direct is crappy)
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February 05, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
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Hello

Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?
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February 05, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
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Hello

Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?

Never been an issue, burst uses virtually no bandwidth that I am aware of.
I have mined it on a mobile connection with no real issues, just a bit of lag that's all.
Also works fine on as low 5mb/s connection out in the countryside.
J
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February 05, 2018, 11:03:35 AM
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(remember to use buffered and then optimise - direct is crappy)
Which means you should plot half your space, then optimize, then replot half the remaining space...
Or can you plot on one HDD, then optimize that whole drive onto another?


Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?
You are calculating the nonces, not downloading them.
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