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February 04, 2018, 08:36:37 AM
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my windows 10 is updating itself. and claymore mining isnt working in new version. everytime it is updating i retruned back.

i am closing all updates. i tried to stop services.msc, gpedit.msc. but everytime it finds a way and is starting own by own. i couldnt stop to update it.

is there any way to hardstop it?

or
is there anyway to mining with new version

anyone has with this trouble?
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February 04, 2018, 11:06:55 AM
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my windows 10 is updating itself. and claymore mining isnt working in new version. everytime it is updating i retruned back.

i am closing all updates. i tried to stop services.msc, gpedit.msc. but everytime it finds a way and is starting own by own. i couldnt stop to update it.

is there any way to hardstop it?

or
is there anyway to mining with new version

anyone has with this trouble?

try suggestions on these threads, though Gpedit should be able to do the job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2282693.0

some useful information also here

http://1stminingrig.com/best-windows-setup-configuration-tweaks-for-mining/
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February 04, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
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yeah there are ways, just gotta find them Tongue

recently ive been messing with the MSMG toolkit which can slim down the bloat stuff within a windows ISO, remove/add features, disable stuff, disable Cortana, disable updates etc, another good program to look at is win reducer ex100 x64bit, does some of the same things to a windows ISO but has a GUI instead of command line type txt.

I know this wont help ya now but for future it could be very helpful

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February 04, 2018, 11:25:16 AM
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Stop Windows Update #DoubleCheck

In RUN type “services.msc“, the services page will be open

Search for “Windows Update“

Click “Stop” if status is “Live” or “Checking/Running“

Select “Disabled” on “Startup type“

Apply & Restart

Do it again and make sure that it is disabled

Also if you want you can disable more services..

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February 04, 2018, 11:32:34 AM
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I'm running Windows 10 v1709 with the latest updates on 3 rigs. Claymore and other miners are working fine. It may be Windows is updating your graphics driver. I disable drivers updates in Windows Update.

gpedit ==> Computer Configuration ==> Administrative Templates ==> Windows Components ==> Windows Update and set 'Do not include drivers with Windows Update' to enabled.
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February 04, 2018, 11:47:08 AM
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I'm running Windows 10 v1709 with the latest updates on 3 rigs. Claymore and other miners are working fine. It may be Windows is updating your graphics driver. I disable drivers updates in Windows Update.

gpedit ==> Computer Configuration ==> Administrative Templates ==> Windows Components ==> Windows Update and set 'Do not include drivers with Windows Update' to enabled.

Or it is also possible by the following path:

Tap/Click the Start Button and search for system -> When System Properties opens up click/tap on Advanced system settings. -> Click/Tap on the Hardware tab (#1) and then click/tap Device Installation Settings -> Click/Tap on No, let me choose what to do to expand your other options. -> set "Never install driver software from windows update"

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February 04, 2018, 12:07:03 PM
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there's a tool i use. 'destroy windows 10'. works well for blocking/disabling stuff. But don't know their reputation.
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February 04, 2018, 12:15:45 PM
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any answer?
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February 04, 2018, 12:38:39 PM
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any answer?

Run this script and say good bye to Auto Update  Smiley

Code:
@echo off

title Disable/Enable Windows 10 Automatic Updates
color 1f
:Begin UAC check and Auto-Elevate Permissions
:-------------------------------------
REM  --> Check for permissions
>nul 2>&1 "%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\cacls.exe" "%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\config\system"

REM --> If error flag set, we do not have admin.
if '%errorlevel%' NEQ '0' (
echo:
echo   Requesting Administrative Privileges...
echo   Press YES in UAC Prompt to Continue
echo:

    goto UACPrompt
) else ( goto gotAdmin )

:UACPrompt
    echo Set UAC = CreateObject^("Shell.Application"^) > "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    echo UAC.ShellExecute "%~s0", "", "", "runas", 1 >> "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"

    "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    exit /B

:gotAdmin
    if exist "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" ( del "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" )
    pushd "%CD%"
    CD /D "%~dp0"
:--------------------------------------

:Check Windows Version
wmic os get version | find /i "10.">nul 2>nul
if %errorlevel% neq 0 GOTO :Not10

:Check the key:
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate"|find /i "0x1">NUL 2>NUL
if %errorlevel% neq 0 GOTO :KEYOFF

:KEYON
echo ============================================================
echo Automatic Updates are currently disabled.
echo Would you like to re-enable them? (Y/N)
echo ============================================================
echo.
choice /c yn /n
If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 1 GOTO :QUIT

echo Attempting to shut down the Windows Update service if it's running
net stop wuauserv>NUL 2>NUL
echo.

Echo Changing Registry key
REG ADD "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate" /D 0 /T REG_DWORD /F>NUL 2>NUL
IF %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 GOTO :ERROR
Echo.

Echo Automatic Updates have been enabled
Echo.
goto :QUIT


:KEYOFF
echo ============================================================
echo Automatic Updates are currently enabled.
echo Would you like to disable them? (Y/N)
echo ============================================================
echo.
choice /c yn /n
If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 1 GOTO :QUIT

echo Attempting to shut down the Windows Update service if it's running
net stop wuauserv>NUL 2>NUL
echo.

Echo Changing Registry key
REG ADD "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate" /D 1 /T REG_DWORD /F>NUL 2>NUL
IF %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 GOTO :ERROR
Echo.

Echo Automatic Updates have been disabled
Echo.
goto :QUIT


:QUIT
echo ============================================================
echo Press any key to exit...
echo ============================================================
pause>NUL
goto :EOF

:ERROR
echo ============================================================
echo The script ran into an unexpected error setting reg key.
echo Press any key to exit...
echo ============================================================
pause>NUL
goto :EOF

:Not10
echo ============================================================
echo This script is only designed for Windows 10...
echo Press any key to exit...
echo ============================================================
pause>NUL
goto :EOF

Copy this code to notepad -> save as *.cmd -> run. Good luck man Smiley

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February 04, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
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I tried everything. Editing the registry (regedit), changing the policies... Nothing helped.

I'm now using this one:
http://www.site2unblock.com/win-updates-disabler/

Updates stopped so far. Smiley
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March 08, 2018, 07:05:37 PM
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Here what worked for me (So far, cuz you never knows with these bozos)

Task Scheduler
 -Goto Task Scheduler Library|Windows|UpdateOrchestrator.
 -Disable Combined Scan Download...
 -Disable Maintenance Install
 -Disable Reboot
 -Disable Resume On Boot
 -Disable Schedule Scan
 -Disable UpdateAssistant
 -Disable UpdateAssistantCalenddarRun
 -Disable UpdateAssistantWakeupRun
 -Goto Task Scheduler Library|Windows|WindowsUpdate
 -Disable Automatic App Update
 -Disable Scheduled Start

Run service cpl (start services.msc)
 -Goto "Windows Update" and press Stop, then set it manual or disable it

Goto Installed Applications
 -Uninstall Update Assistant

Reboot...
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March 08, 2018, 07:24:07 PM
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The fix is really easy. Run Linux. Windows is crap for mining and it wont get any better.

You will no longer have:

Driver problems
Reliability problems
Windows update breaking things
Random blue screens
Licensing issues



Example of one of my linux miners:

[/root]:# uptime
 14:22:55 up 152 days, 20:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.78, 0.80, 1.06
[Agent: 11152 (Running) Total HR: [2.71Kh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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March 08, 2018, 07:28:40 PM
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The fix is really easy. Run Linux. Windows is crap for mining and it wont get any better.

You will no longer have:

Driver problems
Reliability problems
Windows update breaking things
Random blue screens
Licensing issues



Example of one of my linux miners:

[/root]:# uptime
 14:22:55 up 152 days, 20:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.78, 0.80, 1.06
[Agent: 11152 (Running) Total HR: [2.71Kh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]


I only have 4 GPUs running, so maybe it's just me...

Driver problems - Never had one.
Reliability problems - Never had one.
Windows update breaking things - The tool fixed it, so.. No problems there.
Random blue screens  - Never had one.
Licensing issues  - Never had one. Had an unused license.


There's no reason to switch to Linux. For newbies Linux might be even more difficult to understand.
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March 08, 2018, 07:49:56 PM
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Windows 10 wants to make sure people does updates, since updates means better safety. Period.
There are in-built ways if you want to avoid this, but they are not easy to find.

I think that easiest way is Pause Updates. At windows updates -> advanced options, you can pause the updates for a month and a bit. After a month you should really do a short maintenance and install those missing updates and Win10 will be happy again. Just make sure you also do an update before doing this.

Another possible option is to declare your connection "metered", but I am not 100% certain if that helps out of the box or you need more settings.

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March 08, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
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The fix is really easy. Run Linux. Windows is crap for mining and it wont get any better.

You will no longer have:

Driver problems
Reliability problems
Windows update breaking things
Random blue screens
Licensing issues



Example of one of my linux miners:

[/root]:# uptime
 14:22:55 up 152 days, 20:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.78, 0.80, 1.06
[Agent: 11152 (Running) Total HR: [2.71Kh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]


or run Windows 10.

you will no longer have:

lower hashrates
poor overclocking tools
poor bios flashing tools
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc)

all of the problems you listed for windows are not real problems and easily solved or avoided.

Driver problems --> dont install shit drivers and properly uninstall any old drivers (try and tell me how linux nvidia drivers are in any way better/more stable, I'll hear your response when i'm finished laughing)
Reliability problems --> again none. this only becomes a problem with people who overclock too much or have conflicting driver versions that werent properly uninstalled
Windows update breaking things --> can be turned off without too much trouble. and even ubuntu has pesky update warnings and will auto-install if you dont stop it. linux isnt a magical savior here
Random blue screens --> doesnt happen on stable setups. see the same point about reliability
Licensing issues --> windows 10 is free to use. there is ZERO functional change by simply not activating the software. about the only thing you cant do is change the desktop background.  Shocked

and 152 days uptime on a simple system with 1 GPU thats likely stock clocked?Huh much wow. very impress  Roll Eyes.
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March 08, 2018, 09:16:13 PM
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my windows 10 is updating itself. and claymore mining isnt working in new version. everytime it is updating i retruned back.

i am closing all updates. i tried to stop services.msc, gpedit.msc. but everytime it finds a way and is starting own by own. i couldnt stop to update it.

is there any way to hardstop it?

or
is there anyway to mining with new version

anyone has with this trouble?
Had this issue myself too, you don't have the option to disable them through the windows 10 interface. However, you can disable them through windows' services.

This is the guide I followed myself

https://www.easeus.com/todo-backup-resource/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-automatically-update.html

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or run Windows 10.

you will no longer have:

lower hashrates
poor overclocking tools
poor bios flashing tools
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc)

all of the problems you listed for windows are not real problems and easily solved or avoided.

Driver problems --> dont install shit drivers and properly uninstall any old drivers (try and tell me how linux nvidia drivers are in any way better/more stable, I'll hear your response when i'm finished laughing)
Reliability problems --> again none. this only becomes a problem with people who overclock too much or have conflicting driver versions that werent properly uninstalled
Windows update breaking things --> can be turned off without too much trouble. and even ubuntu has pesky update warnings and will auto-install if you dont stop it. linux isnt a magical savior here
Random blue screens --> doesnt happen on stable setups. see the same point about reliability
Licensing issues --> windows 10 is free to use. there is ZERO functional change by simply not activating the software. about the only thing you cant do is change the desktop background.  Shocked

and 152 days uptime on a simple system with 1 GPU thats likely stock clocked?Huh much wow. very impress  Roll Eyes.



Actually I manage about 1500 GPU rigs. 350 of em are Windows. Guess which ones require the most attention and weekly reboots? (hint: its not linux)

My advice comes from having more mining experience than any 500 average people combined on this forum.


lower hashrates - no? Go ahead and try and prove it
poor overclocking tools - My machines are all upclocked via simple scripts
poor bios flashing tools - Polaris BIOS editor works just fine in linux
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc) - Nicehash is for the lazy and ignorant and my linux machines each support at least 18 different miners with the ability to add more. There is nothing useful on Windows that doesnt work in linux.

P.S. Go count the threads of people with windows problems versus linux and tell me windows is the superior choice....




Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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March 08, 2018, 10:56:56 PM
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or run Windows 10.

you will no longer have:

lower hashrates
poor overclocking tools
poor bios flashing tools
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc)

all of the problems you listed for windows are not real problems and easily solved or avoided.

Driver problems --> dont install shit drivers and properly uninstall any old drivers (try and tell me how linux nvidia drivers are in any way better/more stable, I'll hear your response when i'm finished laughing)
Reliability problems --> again none. this only becomes a problem with people who overclock too much or have conflicting driver versions that werent properly uninstalled
Windows update breaking things --> can be turned off without too much trouble. and even ubuntu has pesky update warnings and will auto-install if you dont stop it. linux isnt a magical savior here
Random blue screens --> doesnt happen on stable setups. see the same point about reliability
Licensing issues --> windows 10 is free to use. there is ZERO functional change by simply not activating the software. about the only thing you cant do is change the desktop background.  Shocked

and 152 days uptime on a simple system with 1 GPU thats likely stock clocked?Huh much wow. very impress  Roll Eyes.



Actually I manage about 1500 GPU rigs. 350 of em are Windows. Guess which ones require the most attention and weekly reboots? (hint: its not linux)

My advice comes from having more mining experience than any 500 average people combined on this forum.


lower hashrates - no? Go ahead and try and prove it
poor overclocking tools - My machines are all upclocked via simple scripts
poor bios flashing tools - Polaris BIOS editor works just fine in linux
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc) - Nicehash is for the lazy and ignorant and my linux machines each support at least 18 different miners with the ability to add more. There is nothing useful on Windows that doesnt work in linux.

P.S. Go count the threads of people with windows problems versus linux and tell me windows is the superior choice....





Thx for your input man !

I was looking for someone with exp in massive mining. I run a small farm and win10 is a psycho princess that's constantly in needs of attention. I hate it, my life is hell because of those vision-less and under-competent lobotomized engineers working at M$ !

I am looking for a linux setup, but my main concern is security. It is so easy to hack linux that I'm afraid to wake-up one morning with a farm of zombie rigs, or worst, be clogged with trojans all over the farm...

The minue I feal I can trust Lunix, I will ditch this disease trash of OS that is win 10.

Any input on that would be appreciated.

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March 08, 2018, 11:16:53 PM
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or run Windows 10.

you will no longer have:

lower hashrates
poor overclocking tools
poor bios flashing tools
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc)

all of the problems you listed for windows are not real problems and easily solved or avoided.

Driver problems --> dont install shit drivers and properly uninstall any old drivers (try and tell me how linux nvidia drivers are in any way better/more stable, I'll hear your response when i'm finished laughing)
Reliability problems --> again none. this only becomes a problem with people who overclock too much or have conflicting driver versions that werent properly uninstalled
Windows update breaking things --> can be turned off without too much trouble. and even ubuntu has pesky update warnings and will auto-install if you dont stop it. linux isnt a magical savior here
Random blue screens --> doesnt happen on stable setups. see the same point about reliability
Licensing issues --> windows 10 is free to use. there is ZERO functional change by simply not activating the software. about the only thing you cant do is change the desktop background.  Shocked

and 152 days uptime on a simple system with 1 GPU thats likely stock clocked?Huh much wow. very impress  Roll Eyes.



Actually I manage about 1500 GPU rigs. 350 of em are Windows. Guess which ones require the most attention and weekly reboots? (hint: its not linux)

My advice comes from having more mining experience than any 500 average people combined on this forum.


lower hashrates - no? Go ahead and try and prove it
poor overclocking tools - My machines are all upclocked via simple scripts
poor bios flashing tools - Polaris BIOS editor works just fine in linux
less access to windows only software (certain miners, nicehash, etc) - Nicehash is for the lazy and ignorant and my linux machines each support at least 18 different miners with the ability to add more. There is nothing useful on Windows that doesnt work in linux.

P.S. Go count the threads of people with windows problems versus linux and tell me windows is the superior choice....





I’ve already seen first hand that hashrates are lower on Linux. My cards are all setup via BIOS and once I find settings that work and are stable, the BIOS gets flashed and I don’t have to mess with software clocks. Cards in windows run 28MH, load the same exact cards up in Linux (ethos or otherwise) and they run 25/26Mh.

Linux is slower for me on ETH. And MANY people will confirm the same.

The main take away from my post is that Windows is not inherently problematic like you suggest. It’s just not. It’s very stable if you don’t do stupid things and know to disable updates and have clean driver installs. I never have to reboot my machines for ANY of the problems you listed. I’ve only had reboots due to power outages, or stopping the miner to try different software or drivers or whatever (I’m a tinkerer). If your windows systems require weekly Trevor’s then you’re doing it wrong and your systems aren’t truly stable. Too much OC, software issues caused by incomplete driver installs/cleans, software issues caused by conflicting software packages, bad hardware, take your pick.
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May 15, 2018, 02:13:46 PM
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This works for me...
Windows 10 in various scenarios will turn windows update back if all you do is disable the service.
To disable updates in Windows 10 is go to the Windows update Service property window, disable it, then go to the Log On tab at the top and click This account: and type ".\Guest"(no quotes), clear the password fields and click apply.
You will get a message saying Guest has been enabled to do this, but the hitch is that "Guest" doesn't have permission to do it so Windows update is basically disabled no matter what unless you switch it back which is just as easy.

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